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> Be me.
> Taking a shit in the woods on a backpacking trip
> Enjoying the feeling of being completely alone deep in the wilderness
> being one with nature, etc. etc.
> Finish up, burying my shit, I turn around and notice a trailcam pointed at me.
> These fuckers are everywhere this year.
> Ruining my primitive experience.
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> At the very least, maybe they could be used to secure a camp site with monitoring and alerting while you sleep?
> Still, I find the prospect of being on camera at all times, including private moments deep in the wilderness very disconcerting.
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>>2861530
>>2861544
i know this is another "freedom to, freedom from" argument but surely randomly placed privately owned cameras in the woods gives much fewer benefits than the issues they cause right? the only hunting ive done is rabbits via slingshot though so maybe i dont see all the utility to a trail cam
can anyone here post some reasons why youd put them up? all they would tell you is that there was a deer in the area 2 days ago right?
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>>2861630
>the issues they cause
I've yet to hear of an actual problem from them, just schizoid /in/cels who get upset at the idea a camera exists somewhere, mind you I've never used one, but this feels like the usual /out/ maladaptive daydreamer butthurt over things like trekking poles and car camping.
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>>2861642
You're delusional if you think people are setting up cameras to watch you shit in the woods.
Like how would anyone even do something like that?
>This is the perfect spot to shit, someone will shit here within days I just know it!
Fucking nut job, I'd tell you to go outside but i think society is safer if you stay inside.
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>>2861630
>post some reasons why youd put them up?
Kind of related.
An elderly friend called.me.one morning. A deer had got hungup.in their fence and sudoku'd itself. I went out and loaded it into my truck and decided to drop it down in my forest with a trail cam just to see what would nibble on it.
Had some possums at first.
Then a bobcat.
Then a coyote.
Then it got dragged deeper into the forest out of camera view and I missed a couple days before I checked and moved the camera to it (crappy camera didnt even catch who moved it, I think it was Bigfoot).
Then one night the coyote showed up and about 5 minutes later the bobcat came along.
I've got some cool pics with the bobcat with his ears back and hair on his spine raised and the coyote is slinking away with its head down and tail between it's legs.
So if anybody has ever wondered what the hierarchy in the forest is, its Cat>Dog.
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>>2862050
Rather than damage the camera itself, it would be better and probably easier and cheaper to just put something in front of the lens so that the camera is rendered useless. Eventually someone will retrieve the camera and clear the obstruction, but you make it annoying enough for them to have second thoughts.
Or you could just poop on them. Have some canned beans for lunch and then cover the lens with a steamy loaf.
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>>2862165
>63 national parks and they're worth nothing.
National Parks =/= Bureau of Land Management.
Hunting is only allowed in a fraction of National Parks- and those are highly regulated and usually part of a specific population control program thats dependent on current conditions and permits are only issued through a lottery system.
National Preserves have highly regulated hunting systems.
Yellowstone National Park is 1/4 the size of Switzerland.
Wrangell-St. Elias National Park & Preserve in Alaska is 25% larger than Switzerland.
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>>2862195
>I'll make sure to steal the next one I see.
you haven't stolen the 4 I've already put in your house yet, so I find that doubtful.
also, eat less garbage and actually go outside more, it's depressing watching you.
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>>2861684
youre missing the point, they dont have to do it specifically to target you, and you dont have to be paranoid to dislike the idea of the potential uses of these cameras.
say theres a guy with too much time on their hand, they spend a months wage on a bunch of cameras and install them in the woods nearby.
now every time you walk through these woods nearby theres a solid chance that asshole has footage of you and you can do jack shit about that what hes doing with it.
yes i know most people who buy these cams dont have those intentions but its still creepy.
not usually being looked at by homo sapiens used to be a great perk of the forests
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>>2862351
You were recorded on 50 cameras before you got to the trailhead.
Chances are the majority of those cameras were government/blm tracking population densities of local fauna or park service collecting data of trail usage.
Guess what- supreme court already ruled you dont have a right to privacy IN PUBLIC. Dont like it? Buy your own forest.
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>>2862352
That's just it. I know they're watching for fauna.
I DON'T know that the local creepy boomer is only looking for fauna. In fact, it's more likely that he'd put up a cameras in high traffic spots just so he can go "heh look at that guy.." on his laptop monitor like a creep rather than just be looking for deer.
Ive heard of trail cams being pointed towards campsites before too. Only CREEPS put up trailcams on land that they don't EXPLICITLY OWN.
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>>2862317
>now every time you walk through these woods nearby theres a solid chance that asshole has footage of you and you can do jack shit about that what hes doing with it.
So a random guy has footage of you walking through a forest and....?
Do you hear yourself or do words just fall out of your head?
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>>2862360
you spend a great deal of time and energy trying to make the rest of us jerk off with you to this fantasy of yours but it's just not going to happen frien
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>>2862403
can you not imagen this to be unsettling?
even if it isnt to you personally, as you can see in this thread some people are bothered by it
its really not a difficult concept to grasp, i dont know why ure struggling so much with it
would you mind sending me a recording of you sitting infront of your pc?
im just a random guy right?
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>>2862352
To be clear, any land management agency tracking visitor use does not use any kind of camera, they use counters that either use a laser that people walk in front of or detect vehicle vibrations. No photo or video.
Now law enforcement does use cameras though, but mostly to grab license plates
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>>2862494
because i responded to your baseless accusation with a bit of fun and postive attitude instead of needlesly defending myself and insulting you?
have you ever considered that maybe you might be the daft one once in a while?
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>>2862503
>I-i-i was trolling!1
but you weren't.
you were serious.
turn off the devise, take your meds, and go outside son.
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What about using them for defensive purposes, like drawing a perimeter around your camp?
Could having the ability to check some night vision trailcams help mitigate that freaky feeling that happens when you're sleeping alone deep in the woods and you hear things walking out there?
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>>2863165
>privacy
>on public property
You DO NOT have the right to "privacy" in a public setting.
I can record you driving down the street or walking around the mall and even upload the videos to YouTube.
Thats not something new.
Dont like it?
Stay in your basement.
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>>2863232
Your neighbor's doorbell camera took video of you walking out your front door this morning.
You were recorded by 100 dash cams on the way to work.
The ATM took pictures of you as you typed in your pin.
The gas pump took video as you fueled your car.
You were on video as soon as you walked into 7-11.
And walmart.
All 2026 and newer vehicles will have driver monitoring systems with upload capability.
But youre stressed over a camera on a tree in a forest pointing in some random direction?
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>>2863242
>All 2026 and newer vehicles will have driver monitoring systems with upload capability.
Have we reached that point? I remember when Biden started signing those bills but I thought we still had a few more years until it was fully cucked. Pretty much anything after 2013 has location tracking built in which is bad enough but driver monitoring is fucking gay. Imma buy a car Japan and have it imported through Uruguay so that it doesn’t have any of that gay spyware.
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>>2861630
Europeans give random PEOPLE the "right to roam" around any other person's "owned" land so how can you be surprised/offended by the "issues" caused by deer cams by comparison?
How do you not understand the irony in play here?
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>>2861380
I used to start threads on here about these things and get bitched at for trespassing by the white knights.
>best solution I found
Blind them with UV light. You can get small leds and set them up on a hat so that the camera won’t see your face through the glare.
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im looking at the zeiss secacams for some comfy animal viewing do these things really cause upset
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>>2865494
>do these things really cause upset
No.
Nobody cares.
OP has probably never seen one. He probably doesnt even hike.
Just some basement dweller that made up his own fantasy world to give him something to shitpost about.
The (you)s are an endorphine rush to shut-ins who have little to no social interaction outside of the digital realm.
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If people were civilized and didn't throw garbage in the trails then cameras wouldn't be necessary. Also in trails where a lot of people go I think taking a shit there has to be banned too because people often leave tissues or don't know how to bury it well, etc. so you have to banned it there.
I don't know, if you need to do it go to a place far away from the trail to be sure that there are no cameras.
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>>2865831
good cuz this is pretty fun
haven't caught anything yet
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