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I want to plan my first backpacking trip but I don't want to shell out hundreds of dollareedoos for the ultralight supermax auto-coom sleep system with an affiliate link because I'm poor. I thought of doing a tarp and hammock set up but I want something with maximum versatility that I only have to buy once.
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>>2863652
Depends on what you expect to encounter. The most minimal sleep system would be a mylar blanket and a foam pad from Walmart, if you can call that "sleeping". Do you expect to sleep on snowy surfaces, in cold temperatures, in hot temperatures, in the high desert, on the coast, in the bayou?
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>>2863652
>PVC "insulated" poncho as moisture barrier (reflective side up)
>foam sleeping pad
>sleeping bag or wool blanket on top
Its this simple. If youre in a particularly wet area:
>hammock
>sleeping bag or blanket
For shelter
>tarp (camoflauge of course)
>paracord
Is the simplest
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>>2863652
I have been camping and sleeping on the hard ground long enough to never want to sleep on the hard ground again.
quit being cheap and get a really nice inflatable pad. getting a good nights rest is 1000% a morale booster.
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>>2865165
Good pads come with a repair kit. You should also not sleep on ground without a groundsheet and clear the ground meaning removing all potential pokeys. I have never had a problem with a pad leaking when using a ground sheet under my tent. I also live in a area with tons of rocks and constant twigs and sticks. Are you semi or fully retarded to not do any of this?
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>>2865180
Even then why compromise on quality sleep?
In all honesty if you are really looking for true minimalist just go camping with a sleeping bag, and foam cell pad. Not like the pad can puncture. You technically don't need a tent or a bivy if its warm enough, and if its really warm just take a pad meaning 70s-80s at night.
40 degree bag is about 50 bucks and one of those foam cells is around 20, if you are attempting temps around 50-60. You are more or less bound by the weekly forecasts and their accuracy.
Even thru-hikers don't compromise heavily on sleep. A inflatable pad is also able to compact further down than a foam pad. Also a groundsheet is 7-8 ounces for a 2p so a 1p would be 4-5 ounces.
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Buy a nice $20 bottle of wine and use it to chat up someone to share their sleep system. Or for an ultralight option, hyperventilate into a bread bag for 60 seconds and then smash your head into a tree. You should fall asleep pretty quickly.