>>2870587 You use FIB all the way up there? I live in Iowa now, but I am from Illinois originally. I hate that state and will never return except for food or art. Haven't been back but to see some friends a few years ago. Thank God only me and Kevin Costner think this place is heaven.
Is the UP usefully cooler than the rest of the eastern us in mid-summer? Is it worth driving all the fucking way there to escape the heat? If so, what's there to see? I don't care about boats or lakes. I like pretty views.
>>2870590 >everything in canada is organized well at the cost of having to live in canada
>>2870593 >Is it worth driving all the fucking way there to escape the heat? I'm planning on going in the fall, I've actually never been up there in the summer, I heard there's lots of mosquitos in the summer. >If so, what's there to see? Quiet forests. Like you go out there and you can't hear highways or anything, just trees and forest sounds, I love it.
>>2870595 I did 14 or 15 with a pack once, but that was a while ago, I need to train, which I have been doing.
>>2870581 >open map app >go to UP >see multiple national forests with long trails wilderness areas with trails >even designated long distance trails that will have campsites along it >plenty of random roads that probably arent drivable but might still be walkable >plenty of land in the wilderness areas to then turn off trail and romp into