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I saw some wealthy anchors on a fox business show try to discuss this, they all were just in extreme shock and terror that wealthy people can't launder their money in uninhabited real estate, while people who can't afford to buy are extorted for rent. Rich people should not be so selfish, America is a country formerly of housing so cheap anybody could afford it.
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>>533303198
rich people already pay property taxes even on their second homes but now with communist governments adding an extra new tax they will probably come up with some scam where the house is owned by a shell company and not actually an individuals second home and the commies will lose again.
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>>533303325
OH NOOOOOO NOT THE JEWS WITH THEIR 10 MILLION DOLLAR PENTHOUSES!!! OY VEY WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS LITERAL SHOAH
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>>533303271
You can't confiscate wealth from people if they move as a city or state in the US. That's a violation of interstate commerce. Feds won't ever allow a state to do that shit.
>>533303325
Sell and bolt out. Fuck them.
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Unfortunately old chap, I wasn't put on this earth to worry about the lives of others. I have no obligation to care about someone I don't know, and I'm certainly not inclined to hold sympathetic views towards drug-addled low-IQ wasters whose politics is entirely shaped by envy.
Yes, I was fortunate enough to be born into wealth but no - I will not be made to feel guilty simply because another man wasn't. My time on this planet will be short and I will ensure myself and my loved ones can live the best life possible. If this means someone I don't know may not experience this? Well, I shan't lose any sleep over it. Sorry, this is Life.
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>>533300017
I was a staunch capitalist until the Trump admin. I’m just so tired of being fucked over. I’ll take any system over what we have now. Fuck it, bring on communism. Can’t be a ton worse.
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>>533303468
think for one second, you sell it, now someone else pays the taxes. there are 2 inevitabilities in life.
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>>533303572
Commies can never win here. The business interests and MIC is full-on in control of elections here. They will never let those filthy tankies anywhere near power. You wanna see the fastest nationwide psy-op program again? The MIC will turn the US into red blooded patriots the moment it's needed. They're masters at propaganda and mind games.
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>>533303495
NYC already has the most bloated socialist budget of any city by far, LA budget is 19billion , NYC is 116 billion. If the tax base leaves the city they are going to go bankrupt. NYC is already vastly overspending on socialist programs and these morons just want more until the system collapses.
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Monopolization of land was one of the problems that brought down the Roman republic. Limits on the Landlord classes monopoly on production and housing is essential to an actual free society. Taxing "second homes" over 10 million is a very mild approach.
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>>533303169
Detroit became poor because all the manufacturing jobs left the country because that magic hand of the free market deemed it to be more profitable.
It didn't become poor because someone raised taxes on people with multiple 5 million dollar homes.
>>533303775
Good to know, must mean Mamdani is nothing to be concerned about.
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>>533303572
Perhaps you misunderstand.
My wealth is safe, and has been for generations. It was safe back in the 1500s. My great grandchildren will have access to it. If they're smart, so will their great grandchildren.
You need to appreciate your country is relatively young and there are those of us who's wealth was built long before the US was even a twinkle in the eye of Europe. It's a snooze you lose scenario and your nation of immigrants are very, very late to the game.
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>>533300017
>rich people
>people making $100k in NYC
Pick one.
>spend $4bil annually on illegal aliens
>oy vey we've got to raise your taxes goyim theres just no other way
He was put in office to destroy the city and steal every last shekel from the goyim.
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>>533303271
The realization people need to come to is that you don't need their money.
The federal government issues the money. Despite what the rich try to tell you, it does not borrow. The only thing it accepts for the bonds that it issues is its own currency, it's own IOU. The currency has to exist first.
So just go around the wealthy.
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>>533300017
>this is outrageous!
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>>533303513
>They'll sell them
Which is what Mamdani wants
>leave them empty
And then they keep getting taxed hard, because those taxes are explicitly with empty buildings in mind.
So it sounds like a complete win for the Progressives, which will make the centeist DNC seethe and the GOP cope.
Uniparty getting fucked.
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>>533305413
All that's coming to an end as property values plummet with the loss of capital and investment. Which means the taxes will have to go up to make up the difference, creating a snowball effect driving more capital and investment out of the city.
It's exponential as well, always fallows a curve.
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>>533302822
No. That's literally the problem dingdong.
You are literally reading a post about how we can finally actually tax them something. Its a weak ass policy anyway and we should honestly just systemically process them like cattle.
Kill half their republican (israeli) hogs with them too.
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>>533303338
Education costs more than a house thanks to profit seeking.
How do you expect the poor to afford to be educated?
But yes. We should educate the poor. Democracy requires an educated population.
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>>533305702
not really, did you even try to search before you just bleated out that stat?
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>>533305676
4/6 collapsing cities are Republican and if you want to get into money California mogs the entire country. 4th largest economy in the world.
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>>533305810
No college huh? Lol.
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>>533305841
You figure it out retard. Education is important and I can't learn for you.
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>>533305867
Bro. Miami is the perfect example of poorly educated city planning and corruption.
Its built on sand and swamp, in the way of hurricanes, with bribed contractors doing shit like 2 foot uninsulated internal spacing.
Its basically crypto for boomers. Vegas too.
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>>533300017
When communists get power wouldn't it be better to start mass house building instead of stealing existing infrastructure?
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>>533300017
powerful
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYsQE4Pxb4
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>>533300017
A lot more rich people will be leaving New York
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>>533300017
The amount of people simping for billionaires in these threads is ridiculous. It's pied-a-terre properties over $5m in value. The only people that own these are CEOs of major corporations on 8 figure+ annual compensation packages and there's 400 of these people in New York. These people wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Stop being a brainwashed idiot and defending wealthy people who don't care about you.
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>>533306065
Say am yisrael chazirim first and post your electrical wall sockets.
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>>533306132
ground on top, as God intended. Am yisrael chazirim or whatever
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>>533306155
You seem mad all the sudden
You can say it right?
Am yisrael chazirim. Its not illegal where you are at. Is it?
Say it and I'll post my fireplace picture you already got.
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>>533306222
I'm a socialist self reliant chicken farmer. You are the first non kike in like 2 hours or so.
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>>533306312
I literally produce everything myself....you are a freeloader more so than me. I overproduce food and donate it rofl.
Brother you go to a grocery store and ask 3 people before you can even eat
Your boss for paper
The bank for fiat
And the grocery to see what you been rationed this month.
Put a little respect on your language. Trump will arrest you if you don't kneel to the farmers.
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>>533306347
...brother what kind of bird is this? Can you tell me?
>>533306371
Pic related Behold. A chicken.
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>>533306347
Behold.
A chicken.
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>>533306347
Behold a chicken. Lol.
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>>533306347
Behold a chicken.
How many chickens you got? I assume enough to feed yourself right?
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>>533306371
I likely own more land than you and produce more. What kind of "farmer" donates his crops anyway. My bottom bitch could kick the shit out of your shit meat chickens
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>>533306544
Behold a chicken.
(The joke here is that anyone that can identify eggs will know alot of those arnt chicken)
How many birds did you say you had?
Oh you didn't? Lol.
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>>533306524
His donations are all public you dumb gypsy. His campaign was financed mostly by tech workers and small donations from working class people, plus public funding. Some celebrities contributed like Cynthia Nixon and Jane Fonda. This is all public information.
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>>533306544
>>What kind of farmer donates his excess food away to needy and hungry people.
Lol.
>>533306318
Are you even reading my posts?
What kind of bird is this?
>>533306371
How many chickens you got? 5? Lol.
>>Erm I keep 4 chickens locked next to my kale plant and I'm just like you!
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The vast majority of our system is held up by the taxes of the rich. Without them, we'd have nothing. Instead of cutting waste, people want to keep milking the rich until they all leave their region/country. As kerry packer said "of course im minimising my tax... because as a government i can tell you, you are not spending it that well that we should donate extra,"
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>>533305646
Righoids also don't know that on top of this, illegals still pay taxes. They show up to immigration or immigration comes to them as they are working for nothing and they're given a ITIN and told to file their taxes with that number the same way we file with social security. Taxed illegals make about 100 billion each year. They also get no tax credit for doing so in all buy I think 3 states.
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>>533306644
I appreciate you being honest.
12 is backyard chickens man. I carry around 150 during spring and overwinter around 60 for replacement stock next season.
Chickens
Ducks
Call ducks
Cayuga
Chinese geese
Silkies
Guinea fowl.
By the way. That picture of the "exotic" bird you can't is is a guinea fowl. They are delicious.
Here's one of my like 6 roosters buttholes. Enjoy.
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>>533306761
put the bottle down >>533306607
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>>533306683
Pic related.
I been fighting this for like 40 years and all Republicans do is assist with real replacement.
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>>533306683
Don't care. All illegals must go. On balance, they take more than they give. I grew up in a community that relied on immigrant labor, but the only way we could support them was through state subsidies.
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>>533306788
I don't drink.
Why are you distracting from general conversation. I'm even being nicer.
Don't be so defensive..
You have more land and 12 laying hens after all.
Right winger act like a civilized human for 10 minutes challenge activated!
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>>533306822
You should be hung as a traitor honestly. Then we can close the actual loophole corporations use and you support to abuse you.
1952 92nd Congress hr5678 Texas praviso.
Melania is on a Einstein visa, Trump killed his first white wife and buried her on a golf course and grabbed a overseas gypsy.
JD Vance. Rofl
Elon musk has 35 anchor babies he doesn't support, a true African right?
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>>533306865
Brother. You posted 1 hen your parents have and lectured me about shit for like 20 minutes.
You are the poorly educated and the societal deconstruction. You literally are the problem.
A capitalist seeks to deconstruct the family unit so that it has 2 customers. Why have 1 house work 1 fridge and 1 ac and 1 microwave and 1 mortgage when a capitalist can destroy the family and have 2 rents. 2 fridges to sell, 2 microwaves to sell. Oh man Timmy is upset about Mom's new boyfriend this Christmas, better overspend to get his love.
You even took the time to mock me over charity. You are a disgusting child and Israeli by culture regardless of where you live.
You are Israels greatest ally.
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>>533306803
My point is that is that if that 100 billion went missing, they would considerably bitch. Also when they bitched about fraud caused by illegals this pass year they claimed it was maybe 1 billion in stolen taxes. 1 billion compared to the 100 billion they collectively pay.
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>>533306952
You truly are a kike by heart.
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>>533307034
if a new owner tries to pass the entire tax onto the rentoid, it will either be higher than the market average causing nobody to rent it, which forces him to bite the bullet and lower the rent back to normal, or someone will rent it and the tax will be paid. if he can't afford it either way, then he will sell it to someone who can. it's that shrimple. your doomsday scenario will never come to fruition, Israelite.
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>>533307122
The #1 crime in the usa is wage theft by corporations against employees.
Shaving time.
Refusing payments.
Working off the clock.
It's literally the only type of crime I ever experienced.
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>>533307189
If Elon musk is killed..Tesla doesn't stop existing and all the money he was funneling off can be cycled back into the company or employees.
Apple didn't disappear when Michael Appleton died of Dick cancer after denouncing his only children. Apple is still around..you could just....not replace him. They do it all the time with your coworkers right? Why does a company need a ceo? Why can't someone on the board do it? They have incentive for the company to do well. Why do board members get to hire 1 trillion dollar management monkies but your coworkers job just disappeared and you got additional work now?
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>>533307189
My point is, taxes are societal tribute for over consuming. Taxes exist, so we don't kill the rich. Its part of the societal contract they broke.
A rich man should feel pride in his taxes cause without those taxes the solution is to simply kill him.
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>>533300017
none of the faggots here crying about this shit are even wealthy enough to own a singular house forget about two houses while they live out of state. literal fucking retarded faggots. white people are mentally retarded, kikes favorite cattle.genuinely embarrassing.
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>>533300017
He's a communist attacking capitalists.
Capitalists are people with capital to invest in the economy for a profit.
People investing in the economy form the basis of a free enterprise system that underpins civilization itself.
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>>533307179
supply and demand huh? nice argument, i place you at mentally 6 years old
it's just too bad rent has never gone down in the history of the world. the line always trends upwards. reality does not bend to your will just because you made a post on 4chan. the renter will suffer this, taxing the rich is a way to accelerate the decline of ny and the usa. this guy wants you fucking dead. he hates the united states and wishes to destroy it from the inside. this is the sister tactic to violence used by muslims as outlined by Sayyid Qutb the father of modern islamism and the Muslim brotherhood:
“The foremost duty of Islam in this world is to depose jahiliyya from the leadership of man, and to take the leadership into its own hands and enforce the Islamic way of life.”
“This is a natural struggle between two systems which cannot coexist. Either Islam will prevail or jahiliyya will remain in domination over man.”
“Whoever desires to transform the environment and replace the human order with the Islamic order must first prepare a new generation that is trained, educated, and ready to carry this mission.”
jahiliyya by the way means non muslim rule. you are being invaded and trained to hate yourself.
>Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America
you know who said that?
>>533307331
his personal wealth is not funneled back to the company when he dies it goes to inheritance, that's not how anything works. you can fantasize of a better system but unless you fully implement it's not going to happen and things will default to the current system (you soak the tax increase on the rich)
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>>533307122
That's what came to light, not the total being defrauded, it also doesn't account for tax burden beyond fraud. We also can't accurately assess whether this 100 billion is in any way in parity with the amount of illegals and what that costs the system. It just comes off as you trying to handwave illegal immigration because of some arbitrary amount of tax benefit, with no scipe. It would be sensible to assume that there's plenty of wages not being taxed, and that the tax burden of illegals vastly exceeds that hundred billion.
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>>533307936
I'm aware. Obviously things would need to be changed, but what I said is not outlandish.
>>533307459
Read about the Bosnian genocide and tell me how well armed guards and fences will save you.
Maybe read about security theatre after that.
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>>533307936
We could always do a 100% death tax and it would force velocity of money. If you want the current system to stay close to where it is and not go full socialist, I'm giving you comfortable solutions.
>>But they will hide money
I always believed in law meanings rather than black white. Republicans use this meaning argument all the time. What it "meant". They are doing it now with birthright citizenship.
Just enforce the laws of intent. If someone has 6 million dollars and we have a 100% death tax, simply chase the money he hides.
Walmart is a good example of this. Walmart use to buy fertilizer and store it near a creek. If washed into the stream and contaminated the creek. The solution was to simply move it to the other side of the parking lot.
Walmart did the math and decided the fine was worth the placement and just paid fines to contaminate the creek. I think the intent of the law was to not contaminate the creek and I'm not happy till the intent is met. So they should face additional punishment including jailing the ceo.
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>>533303707
>Capitalism is when the government bails out private business if they're in danger of failing and uses regulations to suppress competition.
So tired of the fucking retards/glowies/kikes on this board.
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>>533300017
>Trump's one true charismatic populist political heir is a fellow Queens boy DSAtard millennial Dem whose not even eligible for presidency
Fascinating world
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>>533303480
the offices are empty and have been and aren’t going to be sold or rented out any time soon. got family who work in that realty space, it’s toast. gone, done. not coming back. they will either let the buildings rot or the city will force buy for pennies on the dollar, change zoning they said since forever that can’t be changed, to make it into free gay migrant housing. then wonder why the city is a shithole more than it already is. Wall Street was for show since the data centers for that moved to NJ years ago and many companies could and do operate remotely.
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>>533306090
Oh..No. it’s not 400. lmao. You have no idea the wealth NYC used to have. The stats used to be 1 out of a 100 in the city was a millionaire. There are/were whole buildings whose value per unit was millions. Buildings with hundreds of units. A whole class of people whose starting salaries were like 250k, who would buy those units and condos. Rich people from around the world would come to play, send their kids to play Friends the tv show and buy them a unit rather than manage rent or anything. They have been gone for years. Tourism was killed by covid and riots and by the hotels being bought by foreign companies, then offered deals to be paid for housing. first it was homeless and halfway housing, then it became migrants. Can’t fault from a business standpoint, why risk having vacant rooms when the city will pay over the regular price, every single day of the year. and since owned by people who don’t give a shit about the city, why would they care about the quality of person being housed. What that does to the neighborhood (it kills it, even poor move out when they opened these). Then you have middle class which again; in NYC was like starting at 100-150k+ a year per adult in the family, moving out because they can’t have their kids (or precious dogs) among such muck. What was nice neighborhoods becomes trash and erodes. Those people with fancy jobs have education or skills they leverage into remote work before Covid and well after. Now the offices are empty and won’t be coming back. grey lots of empty stores and food places is block after block because no foot traffic, and too risky to open anything will just get looted or robbed. Rents increase as landlords commercial and housing, need anything to be leased to cover their array of empty places. It all just decays. Then you add in these crazy taxes and anyone who was still holding out because the city always bounces back, leaves. It’s not going to bounce back anytime soon, time to cut losses.
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>>533300017
can you brown commie subhumans fucking kill yourselves?
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>>533300017
You still can never trust a leftoid, ever. These faggots would “tax the rich” but then flood your cities with third world nigger hordes. Both “sides” are pathologically addicted to destroying western civilization in their own way.
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