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I'm not even joking when I say everything that Japan prides itself on having, China has the same or better.
If you dream of a neo-cyberpunk sci-fi Tokyo metropolitan esthetic, why settle for aging decaying capsules that went out of style before half of Gen Z was even born, when you could instead pay a visit to Shenzhen, the technological beauty that's giving Silicon Valley a run for its money?
Why remain content with what is basically the East's equivalent of British food - oh ho, funny seafood wrapped in seaweed, literally the best invention in food history! Yeah no... when you can enjoy spice and mala and barbecue and all sorts of regional dishes, from dumplings to noodles to pastries to rice? And it's all the same. Japan simply doesn't have the lebensraum for culinary diversity (the only good kind of diversity xD) that China has. People often say China has 8 great cuisines, when in reality the variety is dizzying and endless.
Oh, and half of Japan's "traditional" culture is blatantly ripped off of China's. Kanji are all borrowed from Chinese Hanzi. Kimonos are derivative of hanfu. The temples you visit in Nara might as well be in Pingyao or Luoyang.
And don't you mistake China for a barren industrial wasteland. The mountains of greater Tibet, Yunnan, and Dongbei (NE) are simply breathtaking. Pay a visit to the crater lake Mt. Changbai, the multicolored pools of Jiuzhaigou, the vast and boundless steppes of Inner Mongolia, or the unbeatable landscapes of Guilin and Yangshuo.
There is no reason to visit (or study in, or move to) Japan. China is vastly superior to Japan in every conceivable respect imaginable.
Wake up anons, it's not the 20th century anymore.
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>>533305711
Sichuan Province. It's also where hot pot, and much of the spicy Chinese food in general originates from.
Them and Chongqing, which remains culturally part of Sichuan even if no longer administratively.
The province is home to a scenic mountain called Emei home to a special "Buddha's halo" you can see if you're lucky, a giant ancient Buddha statue by a river in Leshan carved out of a mountain 1000s of years prior to Mt. Rushmore (but without the colonization), and an ingenious irrigation system called Dujiangyan built while most Japanese were living in huts and tattooing themselves like the Aborigines they are at heart, and still would be had it not been for Chinese influence civilizing them and their society.
The way I'd put it, Sichuan's got hot food, hot weather, and hot women. But then again a lot of China has at least two of these three.
Which way, Western man? Crunchy and flavorful dan dan noodles, or limp erectile-dysfunction onions ramen?
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>>533305615
>why settle for aging decaying capsules that went out of style before half of Gen Z was even born
Because that's the whole point of cyberpunk also i'd rather not risk eating food fried in gutter oil and having my tofu dreg hotel crumble on top of my head.
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>>533305615
>If you dream of a neo-cyberpunk sci-fi Tokyo metropolitan esthetic
who does that? Gay people? Cyberpunk is a DISTOPIA idiot!
>food
who cares, this is a political forum. Cookbooks have been invented dummy. A drooling moron is able to buy and prepare any food in the kitchen. Let me repeat: Even a nigger can produce all chink foods, as much as he wants.
>The mountains of greater Tibet, Yunnan, and Dongbei (NE) are simply breathtaking.
zero political content detected
>China is vastly superior to Japan in every conceivable respect imaginable.
apart from being full of Chinese instead of Japanese
Asians seem to have little agency or drive. They can reproduce well and work along estblished trails.
As a leader, China seems quite uninspired. Which is a pity because we desperately need somebody to replace zog.
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>>533305905
If you want to minimize that risk, avoid street food. I don't mean the food itself, what I mean is closer to the "street" part of it.
You can get the same food if you go to a mall. Usually the basement. To minimize risk, China's shooed many street-stall vendors off the street, but many have found and enjoyed new lives in mall basements. Some of the best food you can find in China today can be found in indoor food courts.
Pictured: Raffles in Shanghai (https://www.smartshanghai.com/articles/dining/shanghainese-vintage-fo od-hall-in-north-bund-blessing-or-c urse). But they're everywhere!
You've clearly never been to China (or much else of Asia for that matter), or else you'd know what I'm talking about.
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>>533306049
LMAO. Just fucking... LMAO.
I'll bet this is your standard for haute-cuisine, you tasteless fatass.
Do we have to undergo some elaborate "Sam I Am" routine but with yangrou paomo from Xi'an or Shanghainese shengjianbao in lieu of green eggs and ham?
Also, if you hate Asians in general so much, then why the fuck do you goon to Japanese anime and the like? LOL.
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A food YouTuber with millions of subscribers conducted an experiment, and the results showed that the most delicious food was Korean cuisine.
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>>533305615
Didn't read. You're probably from India.
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>>533306287
>Dubai chocolate
>Not 0 star
I call this bullshit
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>>533305615
Mainland Chinese food is really disgusting. Very slimey, lots of mystery meats and obscure slimey vegetables, basically nasty Ashkenazi peasant sloppa.
All the good Chinese food like sweet and sour chicken, crispy shredded beef, egg fried rice etc comes from Hong Kong aka the British region.
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>>533306603
It's also more than a bit disingenuous to be comparing entree and dessert items under the same scheme. Like, imagine I went around polling people as to whether cheeseburgers or boba tea tasted better.
A fair comparison would be something like Japanese ramen vs. Lanzhou lamian vs. spaghetti alla carbonara.
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No one gives a shit, hence why you even have to come here to try and beg people to believe that Chinese "culture" isn't garbage. The biggest barrier to people liking China is your awful cat fighting language and that's just the very first wall.
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>>533306676
>bong flag
lmao
anyways
It's pretty easy to argue for Japanese cuisine to be disgusting. Something like:
>ew, raw fish
>ugh, and they wrap it in SEAWEED, as in laverbread seaweed? like that's not even a plant that's a protist
>pickled ginger
>natto
>they put RAW eggs in their noodles
>curry being one of the top comfort foods, and a chemically processed cubical version of it rather than from spices you can grow in your backyard
>what the fuck is an 'umami'
>horse sashimi
>narezushi (and its smell)
Raw fish is almost entirely absent from Chinese cuisine, by comparison. Same with raw eggs, but the existence of salted duck egg and century egg might cause this to backfire.
On a more serious note, curry is not considered a Chinese dish for some reason, and this almost surprises me, as it's common in Japan, I think Korea too, and is ubiquitous in SE Asia. Even in Yunnan or Guangxi you don't really see curry in their local cuisines.
Still don't understand how you can point to fucking ham and macaroni soup and say it's better than the vast majority of Chinese cuisine though. Fucking britbongs and their lack of taste I guess.
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>>533307095
Then I say lamb skewers, chili chicken, steamed whole fish with ginger and scallion, fried pork dumplings with juice, crispy skin fried duck, a northern noodle tradition rivaling that of Italy, seafood dim sum, eggplant potato and pepper casserole, "big plate chicken" fit for a trucker, and XO sauce taste good.
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>>533307332
It's not just any soup. It's spicy soup!
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To further add, the Chinese always have to convince you their food isn't dogshit, whereas people just generally like Japanese. This is basically all of Chinese culture. Also notice how their conversation always revolves around just food for Chinese people (because everything else is worse than the food, which is already awful).
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Tell that to my mother (a 1st-generation Chinese immigrant to the US).
Whenever we went out for sushi, which wasn't often itself, we'd invariably order an eel roll, shrimp tempura, or sometimes a dragon roll. I remember having to beg her to let me try a special roll which had raw tuna inside it. And it was great! Yet even today she's still a bit averse about that sort of thing.
I feel like the typical provincial Joe Whitenormie would prefer a typical provincial home-cooked Chinese meal over a typical provincial home-cooked Japanese meal. There's plenty of overlap, frankly, e.g. rice as accompaniment, or chopstick usage. But it'd honestly take far less effort to convince a Joe Whitenormie to try the Chinese meal of what'd probably be chicken or pork vs. a Japanese seafood-based meal, even if it's something cooked like unagi-don (it's a fucking eel, a Joe Whitenormie is not going to be eating eels every week!).
The one stumbling block staple ingredient might be tofu, but that's common to both Chinese and Japanese cuisines. And idk about you but I can hardly stomach mayonnaise, so I guess it all works out, perhaps?
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>>533306266
I can't be the only one who doesn't even get anything from your post
>you don't like my food lmao?
We don't care about food here, by definition. Provide political framing. "country x has better food, actually" is of no relevance
>if you hate Asians in general so much
no, also strawman
>why the fuck do you goon to Japanese anime
nobody save for degenerates does that. This is a NS forum with lulz.
It can be a funny perjorative to call people out like that. Also because anime is still out of reach of the kikes, it's therefore an absurdist strategy to fall prey to non-jewish degeneracies. But it's still not commendable by a longshot. Anime troons are israeli auxiliaries.
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>>533308179
Dude, you literally said:
"Asians seem to have little agency or drive. They can reproduce well and work along estblished trails. As a leader, China seems quite uninspired. Which is a pity because we desperately need somebody to replace zog."
Your word against yours.
And beyond food, China is simply so much better to visit. The cities are superior, and the countryside is superior. There's simply so much more to do, as befits a more powerful and world-relevant country.
Name anything special about Japan, and I can name something the same or better!
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>>533308500
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>>533308304
>Dude, you literally said:
strawman. The East Asian has certain traits. It doesn't follow I hate Chinese because... they are not super perfect? White people for instance have a weakness towards the jewish mindvirus because of parasitic evolution. Does that mean recognizing this weakness leads to hate against my own people? Certainly not.
Show some yerrow pride.
>The cities are superior, and the countryside is superior.
Superior in what sense? You can't even visit the countryside as you please.
>as befits a more powerful and world-relevant country
meh, China still has a long way to go. Chinese people don't seem to know where they are headding. Material wealth is mostly a carrot.
We like what China did in terms of mass education, uplift of the lower classes and general development. But what comes next?
Byt insisting to talk about "muh good food" and "muh modern city" you're showing off a withered telos.
Is that really the best you can come up with?
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Japanese sounds nicer as a language.
Mandarin may be easier to understand though... particularly given that it has a similar information rate to English, so you don't have to acclimate to people speaking more syllables faster to get the same information out.
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>>533305615
I like the battleship Yamato and the Battle of Tsushima. In fact I could go as far to say that I like Japan because of Imperial Japan. I'm not really into cuisine or whatever. I'm sure that I would also like the quite clean civilised depiction of Japan although I don't know if that depiction is accurate.
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>>533309112
In Northern China.
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They have better looking women, a more aryan race than the chinese, with rounder eyes, also better technology, legal prostitution (sounds like a joke but this is important for single men, it should not be taboo to go to whores), and a very beautiful countryside with the temples etc
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>>533309743
Lemme tell you the cold hard truth, if you can stomach it.
If the Axis won World War II, then Germany and Japan would've turned on each other. Nazi Germany always thought of the Japanese as convenient allies, not fellow Aryans with whom to take over the world together with, or even "honorary" Aryans. No, once Germany was done with the Jews and defeated the US, they'd have started hating Asians.
AH Cold War, basically.
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>>533305718
Some day Japan will build giant robots and crush the wicked Chinese once and for all.
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>>533306603
It turns out the pistachio monopoly in the west is run by a Jewish family that heavily donates to the IDF.
Turns out mandated “you vill sell the popular trust our marketing data pistachio chocolate in all your stores and pay up front” from BlackRock was just a round about money laundering to the IDF
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And some day, your country will get eaten alive by poopjeets.
People who still cling to this mythical delusion of Japan being some kind of futuristic anime utopia are like a dumbass boatman who drops his sword into the water, but waits till he reaches the shore to attempt to retrieve it.
One road leads west. Another leads east. Choose wisely.
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>>533305615
China has zero style.
China cannot innovate.
Name one Chinese anime of note.
Now name a Chinese dish that isn't mogged by the westernized version.
Chinese are liars and very jew-like, just more poor.
When has China sold Israeli weapon secrets to USA?
Never?
They need to pay up some reparations along with Israel for blatant remorseless betrayals.
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>>533312857
naw
they will just freeze to death like turds in the gutter some day
they will flood in until our fragile and barely sufficient infrastructure falls apart and then they will die in droves.
anyone here who has seen what -40c does to jeets is not all that worried
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>>533305615
If you are a real chink why would you want westerners to visit China?
What good has westerners flocking to Japan done for Japan? It is basically seen as a whore house now where failed men show up to fuck jap prostitutes and try to bag a mentally insane jap to shit out dysgenic hapas
There is nothing good that will come out of it
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>>533305615
>I'm not even joking when I say everything that Japan prides itself on having, China has the same or better.
>If you dream of a neo-cyberpunk sci-fi Tokyo metropolitan esthetic, why settle for aging decaying capsules that went out of style before half of Gen Z was even born, when you could instead pay a visit to Shenzhen, the technological beauty that's giving Silicon Valley a run for its money?
>Why remain content with what is basically the East's equivalent of British food - oh ho, funny seafood wrapped in seaweed, literally the best invention in food history! Yeah no... when you can enjoy spice and mala and barbecue and all sorts of regional dishes, from dumplings to noodles to pastries to rice? And it's all the same. Japan simply doesn't have the lebensraum for culinary diversity (the only good kind of diversity xD) that China has. People often say China has 8 great cuisines, when in reality the variety is dizzying and endless.
>Oh, and half of Japan's "traditional" culture is blatantly ripped off of China's. Kanji are all borrowed from Chinese Hanzi. Kimonos are derivative of hanfu. The temples you visit in Nara might as well be in Pingyao or Luoyang.
>And don't you mistake China for a barren industrial wasteland. The mountains of greater Tibet, Yunnan, and Dongbei (NE) are simply breathtaking. Pay a visit to the crater lake Mt. Changbai, the multicolored pools of Jiuzhaigou, the vast and boundless steppes of Inner Mongolia, or the unbeatable landscapes of Guilin and Yangshuo.
>There is no reason to visit (or study in, or move to) Japan. China is vastly superior to Japan in every conceivable respect imaginable.
>Wake up anons, it's not the 20th century anymore.
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>>533312895
Do you weebs know that every negative stereotype you say about chinks was firsr used against japs?
Japan is no longer a threat to us so we have JAV addicts like you who worship Japan and seethe about China because it is a sovereign country and not a globohomo economic zone like Japan
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>>533312895
What is Li-Ning?
What is Xiaohongshu?
What is Douyin?
What is Bosideng?
What is Chenping?
What is Hoyoverse?
What is Wukong?
What is Ne-Zha?
What is Three Body Problem?
What is Wolf Warrior?
How affordable are all of these fashion brands for Chinese people compared to Nike and Adidas for Americans when taking PPP into consideration?
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>>533313406
It always fascinates me how weebs like you have such a vehement hatred of chinks. You live in a chink country(japs are chinks) but still hate mainland chinks when you can't even tell the difference between them(there is no difference)
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>>533313406
Holy shit, what century do you think it is? China's not a third-world country anymore. We've got bullet trains, and they're faster than yours. You're no longer under the spotlight, which means slowly but surely, your country's getting exposed as the haughty American puppet it's always been (since '45).
You might've thought you had the upper hand, and you might've been TAUGHT you had the upper hand. But clearly, you no longer do.
As it stands, your best option would be to wean off the US Stockholm Syndrome, foster societal reconsideration of US influence, get the creepy diddy ass GIs off Liuqiu ASAP, and lean more into China and its influence.
I'm just trying to help.
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>>533305615
its a lot more difficult to get into china than japan i think you have to get approved at a chinese embassy 6 months in advance with your plans already made and i think they screen your phone and stuff. but you can just fly to japan
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>>533305615
>There is no reason to visit (or study in, or move to) Japan. China is vastly superior to Japan in every conceivable respect imaginable.
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>Now name a Chinese dish that isn't mogged by the westernized version
Aiwowo and donkey-roll-over (better than mochi), baobing (better than oily Americanized spring rolls), beggar's chicken (cool story), Biang biang noodles (belt-like noodles), big plate chicken (Xinjiang trucker food), candied haws on a stick (popular temple fair dessert), Cantonese roast duck (might be better than Peking duck), chashao (smoked meat, often incorrectly spelled as "char siu" by separatists), crossing-the-bridge noodles (Yunnan dish with cool story), dan-dan noodles (Sichuanese non-spicy noodle dish), "field chicken" (actually frog), gong bao chicken (Sichuanese chicken and nut dish), husband-and-wife lung slices (better than it sounds), knife-cut noodles (from Shanxi), lamb skewers (especially with cumin), Lanzhou noodles (hand-pulled Muslim noodles), lion's head meatballs (actually pork, no lions), malatang (pretty much dry hot pot), Malazi ji (peppercorn fried chicken), mapo tofu (good Sichuan tofu dish), Peking duck (especially the crispy skin), red-cooked pork (Mao's favorite), roujiamo (Chinese hamburger), scallion pancakes (especially with beef and fermented wheat sauce), shaomai (meat dumplings, often incorrectly spelled "siu maai" or "shumai" by separatists), shengjianbao (Shanghainese fried dumplings), smashed cucumber (spicy cold appetizer), Three Treasures of the Earth (eggplant, potato, and bell pepper casserole), xiaolongbao (Shanghainese soup dumplings), yangrou paomo (hearty bread and lamb soup), youmian (Shanxi noodles), zhajiangmian (Koreans stole this one), zongzi (illuminati confirmed)
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>>533305615
how do japanese hedge birds compare to chinese ones?
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I was impressed by China when I found out picrel was chinese instead of japanese, as I had originally assumed. S-Chinese Pokemon cards are also of extremely high quality and used to be fairly affordable too, for a while.
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>>533306287
From my experience, this is true. Korean food in general is just the best. You guys are shit at sweets and snacks, and some of the stuff you eat is really fucking weird but on the whole you're the best.
Then I'd rate Japan as second. Their food is way over rated, but it's on the whole pretty good. There is nothing really bad about Japanese food though, it's fairly consistent across the board.
Chinese food is by far the worst. The biggest problems are quality control and hygiene, if you eat in China you will get thunderous shits and food poisoning. That is just what happens.
The other problem is, a lot of the stuff they eat in China is obviously a result of the constant famines they've had throughout history. They eat absolutely fucking anything and a lot of it is just off putting and doesn't taste great.
This is my experience as someone who has been to all three countries.
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>>533313249
Quality of life is unironically better in China. They are #1 GDP by PPP by a huge margin. While in the west our basic necessities take up most of our income in China they have shitloads of disposable income for luxuries, events, travel, etc.
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>>533305615
It's true and something which the weeaboos do not understand, Japanese culture is simplified Chinese culture, a lot like how Scandinavian culture is simplified European culture. It even has the same "minimalism" cope. Again and again you discover this, even in obscure places like in the traditional color systems of those countries.
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>>533313249
Half of these are made up.
I recognise
>Wu-Kong
which was passable but nobody will remember it in future.
>three body problem
very mediocre sci fi, badly written, with weird characters and motivations both of which is forgivable for the genre. But worst is the pacing and plot.
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>>533305615
What's the Chinese equivalent of Serial Experiments Lain?
I will admit that King's Avatar the animation (Donghua?) is probably the greatest RPG anime/isekai type show I've ever watched so I'm open to china being better.
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>>533305615
No one wants to eat gutter oil + plasric rice chink. Japan even mogs the west by its hospitality and dedication to good service. There are almost no tourist traps in japan.
Your whole country is swarming with scams. Chinese poeple dont even belive you enough to buy chinese diapers.
No thanks.
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>>533305615
Are you jealous chang
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>>533315444
>Japanese culture is simplified Chinese culture, a lot like how Scandinavian culture is simplified European culture. It even has the same "minimalism" cope.
While minimalism is present its a retarded comparison. Scandinavian food sucks and service is horrible.
Japan is a high trust society while china is a low trust society.
Japan is more high trust than anything in europe and china is more low trust than anything in europe. Even kosovo russia even the turks dont have problems with poisoned baby food.
Chinese food might taste good in certain places but you can be sure that cheff doesnt give a fuck if you die from it. If he can use asbestos as cooking surface and save money he will.
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>>533305615
>I say everything that Japan prides itself on having, China has the same or better.
>China is vastly superior to Japan in every conceivable respect imaginable.
Obviously you've never had to actually deal with the chink people.
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>>533312895
>China cannot innovate.
Though this is true, they can copy existing designs very well and improve from there. I'm a welder by trade and some of the machines coming from china now are world class. I bought one recently (admittedly designed by former Miller and Kempii engineers) and it's absolutely amazing with the same functions as machines worth 10 times as much (which are assembled in Europe or America from Chinese components anyway). I've been hearing very good things about Chinese cars and to a lesser extent heavy machinery as well from people who are in the know. The Japanese have unfortunately dropped the ball on most of their cars nowadays, being double the price of the equivalent Chinese model without being twice as reliable. Hiluxes are a good example.
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Chinese food mogs Japanese into oblivion, SEAsian food also mogs it. Most "Japanese" food is a contemporary creation by the way. Their traditional food is literally plain rice slop and random roots foraged from the forest.
>t. traveled all over Asia and ate everything there's to eat
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>>533305615
No body gives a shit about the food or culture or whatever
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>>533318075
Bug people generally, but under the firm and eagle eyed guidance of the great White massa, they can achieve great results. Don't trust the little bastards though, you need to have your QC and inspection game on point.
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>>533307323
>be communist
>post food you will never eat because of communism
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>>533323235
A Chinese person, Captain Obvious?
Woohoo, you correctly guessed what nation I'm from. Now give yourself a star sticker or something.
>Tokyo Tower
Oriental Pearl TV Tower, Shanghai
>Mt. Fuji
Huangshan (Yellow Mountain), Anhui
>Imperial Palace
Forbidden City, Beijing
>Old City of Kanazawa
Old City of Pingyao, Shanxi
Wuzhen, Zhejiang
Tongli, Jiangsu
>Arashiyama Bamboo Forest
Bamboo-Lined Path of Yunqi in Hangzhou, Zhejiang
Anji Bamboo Forest, Zhejiang
Southern Sichuan Bamboo Sea, Sichuan
>Mt. Koya
Mt. Wudang, Hubei
Mt. Wutai, Shanxi
>Osaka Dotonbori
Taigu Li (sometimes erroneously referred to as "Taikoo Li" by separatists) in Chengdu, Sichuan
>Lake Biwa
West Lake in Hangzhou, Zhejiang
Lake Tai, Jiangsu
>Outer temples of Kyoto
Outer temples of the Imperial Summer Resort of Chengde, Hebei
>Hokkaido winter stuff, including indigenous Ainu culture
Dongbei (Northeast) winter stuff, including indigenous Manchu, Mongol, Korean, and Evenki culture
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>>533324465
Good luck crossing the Himalayas and going around Qomolangma (referred to as "Mt. Everest" by Western colonizers).
They are almost like a nature's Great Wall.
(And relax I am being facetious about the name. You can still say Everest if it humors yourself.)
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>>533324571
No, Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai, how can we invade you, big sir. 5000 years old civilization co existence, you can prank invade south india with your world's biggest navy, kill lots of darkies and then we declare ceasefire, china look stronk!
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>>533305615
>If you dream of a neo-cyberpunk sci-fi Tokyo metropolitan esthetic, why settle for aging decaying capsules that went out of style before half of Gen Z was even born, when you could instead pay a visit to Shenzhen, the technological beauty that's giving Silicon Valley a run for its money?
Cringe.
I like Kyoto, the city of 10000 shrines.
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>>533305718
>japan is an old meme based on an outdated 80s-90s image mixed with marketing from anime
Japan has been a cultural force in the western mind since the first merchants brought back Japanese artifacts to Europe.
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Wumao thread.
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>>533308765
You literally can visit the countryside. I can no longer further engage with your noise as you've clearly demonstrated you know jackshit about a country yet have the gall to keep slandering it on no good ground.
You are not an arguer. You are only a parrot.
And this parrot is essentially throwing out good food and calling it expired. No, the argument isn't "withered". It's almost like people including travelers LIKE to see good urbanism and good food. Quelle surprise, no?
China, from its cities to its rural areas, is the perfect fusion of old and new. Japan and Taiwan have too much "old" and not enough "new". Singapore and Dubai have too much "new" and not enough "old". China is the best mix.
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>>533325024
No, it was CHINA first who influenced the West, even going as far back as the ancient days of the Silk Road. Not Japan.
When the Silk Road first started being active in the 100s BC, the Japanese were just beginning to build huts, and ceasing to be hunter gatherers. Some "civilization" indeed!
Japan hasn't been relevant in the west until some brief missionary period, then they shut the country for centuries because, well, I think the answer is obvious to anyone who has a brain. Only then when Matthew Perry arrived did things open up again.
Meanwhile China has been the face of all the cultural exchange. So there's a great reason they call the Western Asian influence art movement "chinoiserie", NOT "japonerie"!
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>>533305615
Kys chinese bot
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>>533324907
Here is the ancient city of Hangzhou. It reminds me of Kyoto, only more excellent and scenic.
Hangzhou is like Kyoto in that it is surrounded by a preserved ancient area, but remains a functional city, and a major one at that. It has historical connections with the famed administer and poet Su Dongpo. When Marco Polo swung by, he referred to Hangzhou as the most beautiful city in the world, and even in our heyday it's hard to disagree!
The lake you see is called West Lake and it is more beautiful - not to mention more enjoyable for the run-of-the-mill tourist - than Lake Biwa.
In addition to tourism, Hangzhou is home to some of China's top companies (like Alibaba, the Chinese version of Amazon) and universities (like Zhejiang University, roughly analogous to UCLA in prestige).
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