>Trump won by caving to Irans demands

>>533319863
>a third world islamic nation was able to bring the US to the table
>the US won
um

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THE OLD GLORY WON

>>533319927
Shart of the deal

>during Israel Lebanon ceasefire

So when Israel inevitably breaks the ceasefire Iran will close the pool again, oil prices will skyrocket, and everyone will hate Israel even more

>>533319863
There'll be lots of anti-america shilling but wtf is actually going on? All that posturing from Iran, all that fight to the death while the battle was going on. And now it's opening the strait and making a deal with the americans? Was it all for show? Do they really not have the ability to shut the strait?

>>533319863
Trump lost every single day it went beyond a 2 day special operation.

>>533319863
>stop the ethnic cleansing in Lebanon and we’ll honor the ceasefire by opening the straight
>the ethnic cleansing stops (for now)
>the straight is now open, like it was before the war
DURRR WE WON

>>533320141
It won and is securing favourable terms for itself, what is not to understand?

Israel Katz (Israeli defense minister) has said Israel's objectives are not complete in either Iran or Lebanon. How long until war starts again?

>>533319863
>israel
>ceasefire
I give it another 4 hours before they send rockets into civilians houses

>>533319863
Kys kike, Iran won. The US begged for a ceasefire and will give Iran concessions in any upcoming deal, in return for opening the strait, which Iran did today once the evil jews in Israel abided by the Lebanon part of the ceasefire.

>inb4 Israel breaks the ceasefire again

>>533319863
What did he win?
status quo ante

>>533320184
Americans want a permanet end to Iran's nuclear prospects. The Strait was literally all Iran had to bargin with

>>533320141
What you're doing is called cope

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No other president in US history has been able to open the Strait of Hormuz! This is so huge

>>533320237
>>533320287
In Israel they're mad about the ceasefire. Saying Israel is beholden to American interest:

"Some in northern Israel criticized the truce after it was announced on Thursday, arguing that it would do little to remove the threat posed by Hezbollah. “This is what it is like to have a government that cares about America’s interest, and not that of its citizens,” David Azoulay, the head of the Israeli border village of Metula, wrote on social media." -- NYT

>>533320296
israelis that occupy the fed are not Americans, five eyes loyalist

>>533320141
Are you retarded? The strait was shut for weeks. They said they wont do a temporary ceasefire, they need a permanent end to jewish aggression against their nation. Supposedly such a permanent deal is close to finishing and itll obviously have bragging points for Trump (or least things he can market to the US audience as brags/wins) but will absolutely be an overall win for Iran and their future. And Israel's enormous loss.

>waste 100 billion dollars
>things go back to how they were before
This must be in the art of deal somewhere

so things going back to status quo before the war is a win?

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>>533319863
THE ART OF GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THEY WANT

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>>533320129
>when Israel inevitably breaks the ceasefire...
https://novaramedia.com/2026/04/17/israel-violates-ceasefire-with-lebanon-just-hours-after-it-was-announced/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpXATV0pQbk

>>533319863
HE CLOSED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE

>>533320223
A day

>>533320141
Contrary to what nigger propagandists on /pol/ say Iran has lost a fuckton of military equipment, infrastructure, leaders and other things and they're honestly scared that the economic damage won't scare USA away because militarily the situation is hopeless for Iran.

>>533320296
>Americans want a permanet end to Iran's nuclear prospects.
REAL Americans don't care about nuclear Iran. fake dual loyalty Americans want an end to their nuclear program.

>>533320296
They never had nuclear weapons or program tho. We're just going back to obama program now and they remain free to fuck up the strait whenever

>>533320371
Israel is not stopping aggression regardless of what those lying kikes claim, until US totally abandon them, this is just another two weeks stall until more escalation

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Look at the seethe here. Everyone mad that Trump is a stable genius.

>>533320624
Don't you think Trump is restraining them? I mean he doesn't want this war anymore. He needs to save face, that might be the one thing more important to him than serving the lobby

>>533319863
The USA betrayed Israel. All they had to do to win was build a pipeline and keep the war going

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>>533320532
This seems to occur Every. Single. Time.

>>533319927
When? US just blockade iran and Iran gave up quietly

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>>533319863
what did he win?
the old status quo back?
lmao

>>533320418
Iran loses all leadership and now has to deal with a ruined country they also turned into backwater by outlawing things like internet access for citizens while usa made money off oil sales and chinese tech got exposed as fraudulent. Trump once again plays a hand and it just works

>>533320716
>he doesn't want this war anymore
Israel might disagree, and Trump is on the leash.

>>533320957
with a more hardline regime entrenched in power

>>533319863
>ceasefire
when bombs stop dropping its always a loss for USA

>>533320824
Indeed it does, anon.
Every. Single. Time.

>>533319927
It was that easy, unconditional surrender.

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>>533319863
not to say I told you so but I totally told you so

They're pulverized, it will take them decades to rebuild all the infrastructure destroyed in the war.

>>533321003
Israel definitely disagrees, but maybe Trump is less on the leash than we think? I think his ego and concern for the market might trump his obligations to Israel. Will be interesting to see

>>533320682
People calling you retarded losers aren't seething, they're pointing out that you actually lost

>>533320001
Is winning giving Iran 20 billion to buy bombs?

>>533320983
>usa made money off oil sales
Are the American people who have been spending 50% more on gas and will continue to do so for at least the near future going to see any of this?

>>533320141
A ceasefire in Lebanon was needed and part of the reason the strait was closed no ceasefire no ships go through, ceasefire and ships can pass, I don't see what's so difficult to understand about this, retards going round saying "LOL look they can't even shut da stwait" like bro do you know what respect is on the international stage? when someone even begrudgingly accepts your terms, you reciprocate. /pol/ once again confirming they are 80 IQ retards.

>>533321089
What did usa lose exactly, meanwhile irgc have to deal with ruined country they made worse by banning things like internet for all Iranian citizens under death penalty. So now destroyed infrastructure and society that cant even use internet so automatic degradation of all education etc.
>>533321151
How do you post on politics board without even basic historical sense? You think irgc gives a fuck about iran people? Whole point of so called geopolitics has nothing to do with average person. You think William conqueror invaded England to.improve life of French peasant? LOL

>>533320141
They still can close the strait. They no longer need a nuke for protection. Trump gave them $20 billion after he talked shit about Obama giving them $2 billion.

>>533321211
checked
There is no honour among miggers. It's all bravado and narcissism

>>533321260
Even if we don't succeed in regime change, we've thoroughly crippled them for many years to come.

>>533320141
>Anon learns that politics is just theater for retards
And now you know words are words only

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>>533320674
Israel won the Six Day War before the US ever supported them
you really suck at pattern recognition, if you'd just learned the lesson Trump taught Soleimani you wouldn't have had to lose your Ayahtollah and resort to the gay cardboard version

>>533319863
USA caused all the bullshit due to incompetence and stupidity

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>>533319863
>During Israel-Lebanon ceasefire
So until market close today then. Ships better haul ass.

>>533321336
Regime has changed. Irgc lost all its central figures and has no clear future and now has to manage devastated country and people. Irgc stripped every last right common Iranian had and I doubt they will.return it, especially internet access..imagine govt just banning all internet access right now in usa for undetermined amount of time. Its impossible to know what's going on inside iran currently but I doubt its anything close to stability.

Won what exactly? It was open before his attack. At most you can say that he cleaned up the mess he made for no good reason.

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>>533321391
yep, too bad you had to suffer for it instead of Trump

>>533320296
>Americans want....
No they don't you retarded nigger. This whole shitshow started because of kikes and their retarded policies.

>>533321438
Israel disagrees. They do not consider their objective for regime change to be achieved.

>>533321509
Takes iran out as regional power, makes them fully dependent on foreign aid, breaks another BRICS aligned nation

>>533320371
>The strait was shut for weeks.
Evidence?
>the closure was real in my mind

>>533320223
>>533320624
>A day
I mean, until the market closes in 10 hours.

>>533321551
Nobody cares what israel thinks they are politically irrelevant

>>533321075
And one way or another, they plan to make you pay for it.

>>533321585
He unfroze like 20 billion dollars in iranian assets, their regional power comes from them funding terrorists. What the fuck do you think these 20 billion dollars are going to fund?

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>>533319863
>Trump reverses whatever he was doing 2 days ago
>HAHAH LIBTARDS BTFO YOU LOST
I don't get it. Like at some point even someone with down's syndrome would stop and ponder.

>>533321079
>but maybe Trump is less on the leash than we think
Maybe he's more? Maybe its exactly the amount we think he is? We can ponder tge question all we want. Trump is stuck with zionist supporters and jews who chain him to Israel. I wouldn't bet on ceasefire lasting.

>>533320141
It means the US just lost their casus belli for the war.
But Trump is 100% going to find something again since he's Bibi 's fuckboy

>>533321613
But they're also mental and have nuclear weapons

>>533320223
Buy the dip

>>533321613
Uhh anon, it was Israel who got the US to start this war. There objectives aren't met, so they will inevitably start bombing again. The question is when, and whether the US will join them.

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>>533321370
>Israel won the Six Day War before the US ever supported them
This is what kikes actually believe.

>>533319863
>during ceasefire.
So for the next 10 hours or so? You know kikes just can't help themselves and will drone strike another kindergarden soon

>>533321370
>before the US ever supported them
The U.S. literally joined WWI to appease American jewry and in service to Greater Israel.

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>>533321438
>Irgc stripped every last right common Iranian had and I doubt they will.return it, especially internet access
no worries, the USA restored it
yore a're welcome

>>533320141
>Do they really not have the ability to shut the strait?
At what cost and for how long?

>>533320345
LOL. That's right gayboy, you work for us now

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>cause problem
>proceed to solve problem you caused

ULTIMATE MAGA! AWOOOOO!

>>533321662
Well, I only raised the question because what happens next will reveal to us the degree to which he is beholden to Israel. If he cares more about his ego and the markets then the US is done with this war and Israel will have to attempt to finish the job on their own.

>>533319927
trump won by calling off the kikes from griefing lebanon
Literally in the headline. Hating orange is a helluva drug LOL.

>>533321260
>What did usa lose exactly
rockets

>>533320682
the fact you felt you had to use the word
>stable
in your post is very telling

>>533320141
possibly the gayest and most jewish war of all time

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>>533321025
Odd.

>>533321846
>but teh headline says

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>>533321764
Israel didn't even exist, damn conspiracy theorists are retarded
go ahead and post your pages of LLM hallucinations with extra references to future events clumsily photoshopped in, you're not fooling anyone who doesn't deserve to be fooled

>>533321646
Not iran they cant even repair their cities at the moment and irgc is currently.more focused on internal occupation fighting against Iranians, which is what led irgc to full internet blackout in the country.
>>533321709
Not really, us saw a chance and took it after cucking Venezuela and Syria. BRICS is dismantled one after another and only thing china can do is post AI generated images on Twitter which might seem important to people living in places like eg Botswana but has no influence or impact on any actual world affairs. With russia on path to internal collapse, Venezuela brought to heel, Cuba surrendering, iran devastated and kept in check, assad gone, jihadist ideology collapsing, there's not much the BRICS alliance can hope for unless china wants to go full retard which it cant afford to do because their military tech was just exposed as basically useless. I imagine you were probably spamming that usa would have draft etc when in reality irgc was swatted by a single usa aircraft carrier.
>>533321767
There is no legal way for Iranians to access internet for last several weeks, and irgc has made it clear theu will not be restoring any rights to Iranian people especially now that they have internal power struggle with competing imams

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>>533321714
yes, because it's true
USS Liberty shouldn't have stuck its prow where it didn't belong

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>irgc missiles btfo american empire
you gotta admit very few countries go up against the US and come out of it reasonably unscathed.

and it wouldn't have been possible without this retard at the helm

>>533320716
If Trump says no one of his grandchildren get double tapped in a vehicular incident.

>>533321923
media is completely fake except when it isn’t what don’t you understand

>>533321933
Moshe what is the Hannibal Directive and why was it used to have IDF engage festival goers with weaponry?

>>533320141
>Do they really not have the ability to shut the strait?
They can shut the strait any time they want. They have thousands of drones. They only need 1 to shut the strait.

>>533322015
the US hasn't faced any competent enemy since Vietnam (and we lost)

>>533321958
No, I said nothing about there being a draft. As for the reasons for the war Marco Rubio stated them quite clearly, as did Joe Kent. We won't forget Bibi's 7 visits to the oval office either. You're distorting reality.

>>533320296
You know Iran only hates America because Israel controls them right? It's Israel that is shaking at the thought of a nuclear muslim country because of how much muslim blood they spilled.

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>>533321958
>There is no legal way for Iranians to access internet for last several weeks
they've been doing great accessing it illegally tho, IRGC is no longer in control

>>533322058
We shall see. I think the US is done with this war.

>>533322284
Im not surprised. Irgc dissolved as central authority and will have to basically fight against Iranians to get back the power they had pre conflict

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>>533322264
>You know Iran only hates America because Israel controls them right?
nope, because that's a lie
turns out when the IRGC's terrorists get BTFO, the whole Middle East is ready to make peace with Israel

>>533322284
>50 million in a country of 90 million are using VPNs
yeah sure goy

>>533321886
It's a well known meme

>>533322395
Russians have to do this because putin outlawed almost all the internet for people

>>533322441
I don't doubt people are circumventing the internet blackouts somehow in both countries, but 50 million is an absurd number.

If I was told 5, that would have been believable.

>>533321303
>Trump gave them $20 in frozen assets after doing hundreds of billions of dollars in damage to Iran
This is the biggest cope I have seen from muzzrats

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>>533322507
>ordinary Iranians are calling in airstrikes on their leaders and assassinating them way more clumsily yet effectively than Mossad ever would
>but the IRGC must still be in total control because ORANGE MAN BAD
cope, seethe, and die late

>>533320129
Maybe commodities shouldn't be on a speculative market.

>>533319863
It was only a few weeks ago that Trump was talking about Iran's unilateral disarmament, Iran's unconditional surrender, and him appointing Iran's supreme leader. Now, reopening a strait that was previously open and returning to JCPOA-esque nuclear deal is apparently considered a glorious victory and 18D chess in MAGA-land.

I won't complain though. iIf Trump's base doesn't buy it, then Trump might decide he has to restart the war and fuck up the global economy even more than he already has.

>>533321846
Yeah, ala giving on to Iranian demands

>>533321933
Why are jews always so angry and violent?
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-hidden-us-role-in-the-balfour-declaration/

wow who gives a fuck, 5 days of open strait?
Do you know how long does it take for a slow ass tanker ships to complete that route? Yeah it's longer than that unless they're waiting nearbie.

This is just a theater for morons like you.

>>533320632
Which is meaningless if they can rearm. Israel wants a failed state, not this shit.

>>533321260
>banning things like internet for all Iranian citizens under death penalty
Kek
Literal retard

>>533322828
A peace deal will likely be announced before the ceasefire ends, the foreign minister also said they don't want another ceasefire but a lasting peace, Trump also said days ago he would attend the next meeting with Iran, which should've been a big hint that things were close to done because he wouldn't do that for anything less

>>533322507
I don't know about numbers but iran is strange country. Like .majority hate sharia law and have some education etc so I dont doubt many are using vpns

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>>533322820
just whine about Epstein, it makes about as much sense
oh wait, your media masters told you to shut up about that because it only implicates Democrats, didn't they? LMAO

>>533320632
Then why didn’t the US sweep in and take the uranium and the island and changed the regime and everything else they were going to do?

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>>533319863
No removal of US bases, no toll on Hormuz, no nukes, nothing. The mullahs got their shit pushed in and lost. It is what it is

>>533323072
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/

>>533320141
>fight to the death
oh they held that part of the deal up allright, all the sandniggers that wanted to fight to the death are dead now.

>>533322699
Oy vey, cool it with the antisemitism

>>533323154
what happened to regime change?

>>533323228
They killed all the people that actually wanted to fight and they got replaced with a bunch of reformist cucks

>>533323228
That turned out poorly in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, do you want more muzzrats flooding Europe?

i don’t think i’ve ever seen the amount of jidf activity as i am seeing today. epstein board confirmed.

>>533320129
They said if in the two weeks deadline they don’t have an official peace declaration they will start bombing israel again its just another break and the war continues

>>533323180
Look, I'm just saying, no entity in the system should have such control over your life, especially as irrational and emotional.

>>533323384
>reformist
I guess hardliners reform stuff, not in the way America wanted tho.

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War is over, they will announce their peace deal over the weekend

>>533319863
>Israel put on a temporary leash
>hahahaha US BTFO
???

>>533323487
There were never any sea mines. Merely a psyop to mess with the markets.

>>533323487
There are no fucking mines in the strait why do people keep repeating that bullshit

>>533320345
>arguing that it would do little to remove the threat posed by Hezbollah
Not my problem.
>This is what it is like to have a government that cares about America’s interest, and not that of its citizens
This kike thinks his country doesn't exist only by the grace, mercy, and protection of the United States of America.

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>>533323575
Iran can easily deploy the Maham 3 and Maham 7 from their speedboats, the Thai cargo ship was hit by a mine

>>533323487
My bet is next week in the weekends it’s gonna start up again (fits perfectly with the ammo restocking schedule)and yes I put my money where my mouth is

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>>533323577
Damage from a mine exploding under the stern, only damage done to the ship, caused the engine to explode which kill three mariners, you can see the shrapnel damage

>>533321846
Lebanon told the iranian ambassador to shart off.

>>533323682
Flying mines that hit above the waterline thats something new

>>533323682
>>533323743
A SEAL team could do that in their sleep. There were no mines.

>>533323867
It’s above the waterline

>>533323907
Someone's never heard of tides.

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>>533319863
Good. Now he can focus on pricing my house out of the reach of you little worms so I can sell it to some Indian family and go retire to a nice trailer in the high desert.

>>533320850
The Lebanon ceasefire? This is only active for the duration of the ceasefire in whole.

>>533324002
So the mine just hit a ship above the waterline in a strait that is not mined impressive

>>533320141
Literal who pirates with a 5 figure budget can close the strait. If there's even less than 1% chance a boat will get blown up, then the boats can't get insurance and won't be sent through.

The strait is open as part of a ceasefire, the "deal" isn't going well and neither side will budge on enrichment of uranium.

The downside to an open strait for iran: economic pressure is relieved so the US isn't approaching its time limit.

The upside for iran is they aren't getting attacked, and more importantly if trump wants to attack again he has to get the strait closed which is currently open. So it's reset as a deterrent. If Iran closes the strait when they aren't under attack then it's no longer a deterrent, they would have to escalate to closing the red sea with the houthis. It's better to stay low on the escalation ladder and let your opponent taste the ice cold lemonade.

>>533323798
What? It hit under the stern and caused an outward explosion, the Maham 3T are acoustic and magnetic mines that are attached to a cable and detach, I suggest you look them up before running your mouth you dumb nigger

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>>533319863
Until Israel attacks Lebanon again 5 minutes from now. Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

>>533319863
and what happens when Israel breaks the ceasefire again?

>>533324240
Israel can't even storm a farming hamlet without it turning into their Stalingrad kek

>>533324088
I said there were never any mines dike bitch. I said a SEAL deal blew the prop off. That's their speciality. It's what they do in BUDs. They're not Osama bin Ladden killers. They're demolition experts.

I'm so deeply deeply confused.

Every day the oil deficit grows larger, stockpiles shrink.

Trump announces a ceasefire that lets through some oil through the Iranian channel. Oil price goes down. Then Trump announces that this isn't good enough he's blockading everything, oil goes up a bit. Then he announces a return seemingly to what was announced with the start of the ceasefire, except now most of that time has been squandered and less has gone through than would have if Trump had said nothing, and oil goes even lower?

The TACO cycle works too well. It seems to fly totally in the face of physical reality. I thought the global economy was fueled by oil and gas but it seems to be entirely vibes around Trump.

>>533319927
stay mad sssar

we depirting u soon

>>533320658
Sure, just like carters deal with NK never resulted in nukes. Oh wait. Lmao. Retard.

>>533320957

he wons your moms pussy lol

>>533323228
It got shelved and the Hormuz issue blown up for them to save face.

>>533323399
From the kike rat point of view that's perfect, its the outcome they wanted.

>>533319863
Wow, we're back at square one, what a victory

>>533319863
How long until Israel has an oopsie and blows something up and Iran loses their shit again?