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Liberals will unironically argue that this person deserves to live.
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>>533326317
I'll bite that bullet. People like this should not exist, and keeping him alive and feeding him three meals a day paid for with money stolen from her mom's paychecks is simply evil. Killing him is the right thing to do. The only way to have a healthy culture is to kill people who do this.
>>533326262
This. In a libertarian society, I'd want him executed through private means.
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>>533326095
Some people deserve to die. Fact. That guy earned it, if it can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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>>533327078
It's evidence in the case that the people who decide his fate need to hear. They made the choice not to release the audio to the public which I think is correct, it won't do anything for my soul to hear it myself, but the people who decide what happens to him should hear what he did. Hopefully he'll die, and it should be soon. That mother deserves to watch him die.
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>>533325931
Republicans will give him money for a plane ticket to Israel. In The republicans minds it was just a filthy goy that he killed while he is one of gods chosen.
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>>533325931
The death penalty isn't punishment. It's liberation from punishment. Punishment is telling his inmates that they're allowed to do anything they want to this POS, except kill him and watch this fucker spend the next 40 years scream and beg for death.
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>muh liberals say
why lie, OP?
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>>533327224
>Yes, it is a jewish ploy to insulate retards from the real world. If everyone knew the kind of shit that was actually going down, they'd pogrom you tomorrow. Fucking kike.
Exactly. If the normies were forced to see the gang rapes of kids done by the shitskins and jews trying to argue for importing more of them, all the jews would be in the ground by now and the shitskins sent back home.
53) You, Mohammed Karrar, prepared her for gang anal rape by using a pump to expand
her anal passage. You subjected her to a gang rape by five or six men (count 30). At one
point she had four men inside her. A red ball was placed in her mouth to keep her quiet.
Not only were you both involved in the commercial sexual exploitation of GH, you also
used her for your own self-gratification. You both raped her when she was under 13.
When she was very young, although it is not clear whether she was under 13, you both
raped her at the same time (oral and vaginal/anal). It happened on more than one occasion
(Count 28)
54) Mohammed Karrar, on one occasion when GH was 12, after raping her, she
threatened you with your lock knife. Your reaction was to pick up a baseball bat with a
silver metal handle, strike her on the head with it, and then insert the baseball bat inside
her vagina. You treated her as if she was your commodity. You branded her (with your
initial near her anal passage) using a hot hair pin. If GH did not comply with your wishes,
if you were not with other people, you would lose your temper with her. As part of the
grooming, you would provide her with crack cocaine and you injected GH with heroin
on numerous occasions (Count 40).
>https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/s entencing-remarks-r-v-dogar-others.
There is a reason why jews hide all this shit
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>>533326095
Your state just ended the life of a paralyzed rape victim because they put her in with migrants because her parents were poor and she became paralyzed after trying to kill herself then convinced her euthanasia was the answer.
We don't want to hear it from you.
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>>533325931
It is not the place of the state to give people death regardless if they "deserve" it.
>>533326445
>keeping him alive and feeding him three meals a day paid for with money stolen from her mom's paychecks
The cost of prison is the price society pays for failing to maintain a structure of moral behavior. Don't want to pay it? Stop producing murderers.
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>>533325931
Actual rapists like this guy need to be taken seriously and dealt with seriously.
Actual rapists like this guy can easily end up killing someone because they went crazy retarded for a few minutes and got themselves into a fucked up situation and the only way they can see themselves escaping is by killing the victim/witness.
As soon as he abducted her he had gotten himself into a situation where killing her and getting away with it was his only way out. He was already a rapist, but even if he had stopped himself from raping her how would he have escaped serious punishment?
The sick fuck went for a sunk cost ride.
>well I'm already fucked for abducting her
>might as well rape her
>well shit, I'm fucked for raping her
>might as well kill her
She was dead as soon as she entered the van. Poor girl.
She would be alive if he had been dealt with properly.
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>>533327713
I didn't do anything to "produce" this person but I could very quickly ensure he does not drain any more of society's resources. I'd even pay for his tools of execution myself as a voluntary contribution to make the world a better place.
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>>533326445
>Killing him is the right thing to do. The only way to have a healthy culture is to kill people who do this.
what actually happens:
>suicidal pedo is at the end of their rope
>they are going to end their own life
>fuck it, may as well rape a kid before I go out since the state will kill me anyway
>death penalty is fucking expensive
congrats, you've encouraged a pedo to rape a kid now that they have nothing to lose and your taxes paid for it.
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>>533327873
>prison rape, yeehaw!
We shouldn't have to be like this. This is another way in which you/we have been degraded by living in a backwards society.
Our ancestors didn't have to think about prison rape or wish it on people, because justice was swift and more appropriate.
We shouldn't be relying on other prisoners to deliver the justice that we should already be getting.
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>>533325931
he should be dehumanized and executed on live national tv in a gruesome and violent manner. raped with searing broken bottles dipped in salt and being skinned alive while on a drip feed of epinephrine. then let the buzzards have at him. a human who can do anything of this sort should receive treatment in line with crimes against humanity. rip his teeth out with plyers and force feed him salt water on electrified sponges. hammer hyopdermic needles into his eyes and under his nailbeds. give a live anatomy lesson of the central nervous system, finding, and removing each nerve ending tracing back to the spine with dull dental tools. the fact none of this is happening means it will happen again. if he isnt executed, we will be turning into britian.
this is receiving alot of attention to distract from the failure of the iran war.
they dont care about you, your kin, or anyone with white skin. remember that. these savage animals think this is funny, they cheer for this man to get off. niggers, trannies, redditors. they need to be eradicated.
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>>533327929
>>death penalty is fucking expensive
Doesn't have to be. It should be carried out immediately after a guilty verdict is handed down. In this case I'm sure you'd have no shortage of people volunteering to be on the firing squad.
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>>533327638
There's a real disconnect between people and reality these days. It's so easy to create an information bubble to trap normies in. Even moreso now that ai can make anyone believe anything actually happened. Look at how easy it is to fool these morons with completely fake videos of shit that never happened. We need to forcibly show what is happening to these squemish faggots. Then maybe they wouldn't simp for tren de aragua or chinks. You see a man's face get cut off and you won't be so accepting of importing the people who fucking did it.
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>>533327713
>The cost of prison is the price society pays for failing to maintain a structure of moral behavior
You complete and absolute dumbfuck. Executing shitheads was exactly how we did that in the past and you're against it. What a fucking retarded thing to say.
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>>533327929
>>death penalty is fucking expensive
because we're worried about making it "humane" and because the people doing it milk the state contract.
Rope is free, and their are lampposts and trees all over the place.
A couple 30-06 rounds are like 5$. A gun costs a thousand or so, but can be used over and over again.
Fuck if we really want to cut down costs, a .22 is 500$ and you can get 50 rounds for 10$, and then hopefully the sentenced won't die quickly, but slowly and in great pain.
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>>533328485
We don't do that anymore, retard. You think we doled out justice the same way 100 years ago as we do today? This faggot would've already been lynched if this happened 100 years ago. God, you're stupid.
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>>533328534
the girls family should be punished too, they arent innocent and did nothing to protect the kid, didnt teach the kid not to get into a car with strangers and didnt pay attention.
so the rapist man doesnt have the full responsibility here, his crime was enabled by lazy parenting.
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>>533325931
A quick death is less suffering than keeping him in prison, you are arguing to allow his ass to cop out of true retribution for your emotional reaction. Like a fucking woman.
So in essence shut the fuck up cunt.
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>>533328672
Being a fucking leech on society as all prisoners are is not justice. This girl's family knowing this man is still alive is not justice. They deserve to watch him die. They deserve to see the light leave his eyes and know that the man who killed their daughter is in hell.
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>>533326095
If the state doesn't have that power, then individuals assume that power by default. There is no such thing as a power vacuum. There has never been and will never be a time in human history in which no one has the power to end your life.
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>>533328802
Granting the man a release from life is an easy way out. Restricting the rest of his days to the confines of a cage like the animal he is, though? So much more satisfying. His health will fail. He will suffer and decay. He will have no hope. Then he can use some bedsheets to finish the job
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>>533325931
kinda weird that they would release a picture showing the dead girl dead. they usually don't do that kind of thing
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I don't want the state to have that power
Also fuck death row, they get to be alone in their own wing and waste endless state money on appeals
Life without parole and put him in genpop
That shit will sort it self out, no need for the clunky expensive death row process.
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>>533327713
The State only commits the execution. The People, as a jury of twelve, decide guilt and influence sentencing.
The social structure for keeping people from commiting these crimes is the threat of execution.
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>>533326317
The solution here is quite simple. You just need to get creative with sentencing. Sentence him to live life as someone whom it is not a serious crime to murder. Basically if anyone kills this guy, regardless of how gruesome, as long as no other bystanders are harmed the vigilante only gets fined like $100 and set free. Then just let him go and see what happens. This way the state gets their money, a despicable “human” gets removed, a killer or grieving family member gets to get it out of their system, and the government doesn’t get more power. Its a win win all around
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>>533328860
you are a shitskin and we're talking about whtie countries here which are none of your concern we dont give a fuck what you do in shitskinland, just keep the fuck out
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>>533326262
Fuckin A
>>533326095
You're next pedophile
>>533326445
>Libertarian
I remember my first beer. Many, including old fags like myself first show up to pol as libertarians and pagans. If by a years time you are not a Christian NatSoc you are one of 3 things.
1. A retard
2. A kike
3. A retarded kike
Gottfried Feder had the best economic plan that was so successful that Germans were FORCED to take paid 2 week vacations. The nerve.
In case you aren't
completely hopeless,
here nigger.
>>533327220
Renounce the Talmud word for word and not denounce
https://share.google/bIqkg3yoJ6IiGi1Mb
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>>533328903
I think the family should get to decide. If they want him in prison until he dies, then fine. If they want him executed, then that's what should happen. He stole their daughter's life. Now his life should be in their hands.
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>>533328657
>you are arguing to allow his ass to cop out of true retribution for your emotional reaction
This is true. Look at all the angry posts here. They're all chimping out. Justice must be administered without passion. Even a child understands this - a good father doesn't scream at his kid, but remains calm even as he spanks them. The point of punishment is to correct behavior, not to soothe your out-of-control emotions.
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>>533328986
criminals dont care about the death penalty, actually it might even make doing such brutal crimes more attractive to them because then you get all the attention and big media circus for years.
also criminals that are already suicidal before the crime will use this same way as suicide by cop while also trying to break the highscore.
so you see the death penalty doesnt work in preventing crime.
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>>533329024
>you are a shitskin
I'm not a shitskin and actually nobody in this story is a shitskin.
its white on white crime and we dont have the right to murder a fellow white man, no matter what he did.
prison for life is fair enough.
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>>533328794
We don't do it the same way for the same crimes, you fucking moron. No one even cares about it being a deterrent. It's called righteous retribution. I hate you so fucking much.
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>>533329649
No you wouldnt retard. Lmao where do you schizos come up with these fan fictions?
>>533329733
Probably not for a case like this. They executed that bomber guy in the 90s in under like 5 years
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>>533326143
>muh trauma
It’s called your brain restructuring itself to accommodate new information aka learning. Leftist imbeciles who aren’t willing to undergo that process shouldn’t opine about these sorts of topics.
This is true in general.
>no human is illegal!
Then watch the spic torture the child of a cop to death for street cred with the cartel
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>>533326095
>>the state should have enough power to end your life
the state doesn't have the power to end anyone's life. the state has a process through which impartial citizen jurors overseen by a judge can elect to end his life, the entire process of which is ensured for fairness by appeals to multiple levels of courts.
you're deliberately lying to excuse child rape and murder. why?
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>>533329152
There's nothing righteous about you or anything you desire. Look at the things you post. You are filled with hatred, you've said so yourself.
I want a better world where we don't have victims in the first place. You want to hurt anyone who makes you mad. Your violent rage would be frightening if you weren't so impotent.
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>>533325931
Why is /pol/ more worried about the potential pedophilia than the fact that he fucking killed her. The way people are talking, you’d think that their fine with him killing her as long as he wasn’t also a pedo.
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>>533326143
Yes, it's neccessary.
He pled guilty, and this was the penalty phase of the trial, where all the circumstances relevant to the crime have to be weighed.
Jurors can't make a decision about life or death with only a censored, sanitized synopsis of events.
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>>533330255
Pedophiles are one of the few classes of people you are allowed to hate.
A child learns early that a treat is when you get to do something that is normally forbidden. Skip school, have ice cream, stay up past your bedtime. We all have joyful memories of these things.
Yet we are also all told as children it's wrong to hate. That makes it a delicious psychological treat when you are given special permission to hate a particular group of people.
Politicians LOVE doing this. "Here is the enemy," they say. "They are not humans, but demons in human skin." They point at the group: Nazis, Communists, Whites, Blacks, Muslims, Jews, billionaires, landlords, doesn't matter. "They are evil. To kill them would only be doing your fellow man a service. Even torture is okay, because their existence should anger you. Enjoy your anger," they say. And despite never having come into contact with this group, you enjoy your addictive anger, and you hate anyone who tries to take it away with reason.
For the most part this scheme of psychological reward is limited to extremist politics. Pedophiles are the rare example of a group where it's mainstream.
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>>533325931
No. They won’t. He’s white. They’ll argue that he is typical and white people are more likely to do this than any other race based on statistics. If you say its mislabeled mexicans they’ll say you’re a fact denying conspiracy theorist. If you show them the actual sex offender registry where 9/10 white men have names like “lope they will counter with white faces coming up on a google search for “pedophile arrested” and call you a pedophile for defending white pedophilia and “pretending” white men are not the problem. If you then attempt to show them more actual data they will SCREAM at you - “WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING PEDOPHILE WHITE MALES? WHITE MEN FUCK KIDS”
If he were not white he’d be said to have mental health issues from white supremacy and they would say he is actually a victim. Any disagreement would instantly be labeled as defense and perpetuation of white supremacy.
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>>533327028
>You never would've imagined that the fedex guy in the spur of the moment would rape and kill your daughter while on the clock.
The autopsy found no evidence of rape though. I think he was planning to rape her but didn't actually succeed in it.
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>>533326095
i like the system we have in some states in america. we sentence you to life in prison with the worst murderers we have and then they finish the job on the inside because they hate people who harm children and then they just get a slap on the wrist by the guards. it's all very nonchalant and widely accepted in many states without the death penalty.
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>>533327638
White UK citizens make gestures at rvery mogtsnt they see to represent that they are actively covering up sex offences motivated by hatred of their own race and would be very keen to do the ssme for them.
They also enjoy a smirk and a chuckle mirroring the state sponsored anti white symbolism which helped create mass murderer of children Axel Rudakabana.
What youve said is correct in principle, but maybe choose a different example than a population who will gleefully embrace their own extinction in return for some isreal lite privaleges to attack their common enemy
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>>533327713
Genes control behavior.
Kill them if you want less of them.
Magical morals and free will can not and will never change what people are. You can not empathize with this man. He does not have the same emotions as you. He can not feel the same emotions as you. He is a mutant, and a provably dangerous one.
We are only a great people because we KILLED, with great prejudice, our criminals for two thousand years and regularly sent everyone with unrestrained bloodlust to the slaughter in political wars. Natural selection says: if you put down every dog that bites and let every dog that wants to fight go after its equals, you will receive a less dangerous animal in return.
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>>533328485
Deterrent? Whats this about deterrent?
THE ANIMAL HAS THE VAGUEST CONCEPT OF THE FUTURE AND FEELS EMPATHY FOR HUMANS ENTIRELY DIFFERENTLY OR NOT AT ALL
WHEN A DOG IS BRED THAT BITES PEOPLE, DO YOU WONDER WHAT COULD DETER IT?
IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN
KILL IT
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>>533333583
>Genes control behavior.
He won't reproduce in prison so what difference does it make?
>You can not empathize with this man.
You're mistaken. This isn't about empathy. He's a piece of shit and I wouldn't feel bad if you rounded up a posse, abducted him, and dragged him behind a truck for 50 miles.
This is about the structural makeup of the laws in a society ruled by law, a society where we must take fallible people with flawed judgment and endow them with authority to decide the fate of others in the name of justice and public safety. I don't care if he lives or dies. I care about how frivolously we hand the powers of life and death to THE GOVERNMENT, an organization proven over and over again to be filled with corrupt criminal individuals.
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>>533334276
You seek to incentivize society but you are forbidding the solution
How can we kill people like this if we have to keep them alive to punish us for them for being born?
Your bullshit only works if there is no such thing as an irredeemable defective nonhuman. However, there is.
>gubmint bad
Governments govern.
>but its full of bad people
Get rid of them.
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>>533328019
Revenge fantasies of the victimised. Sad.
>>533329017
Outlawry is the historical name for this. You are 'outside of the law'. That is, you are not protected by it, and anyone can do anything to you with no repercussions. Sometimes it was imposed for a certain time, sometimes for life.
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>>533328019
We need to invent ways to horribly kill people like him that would make Mexican cartel members blush. Extract his teeth. Chop his nose. Slide needles under his fingernails. Drugs to keep him lucid. Paper cuts. Force him to extract her weight from his body with a dull knife. Do the rat in heated bucket thing so it tries to escape through him. needles in eyelids. Salt salt salt salt salt.
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>>533329046
So if they decide to let him go would you approve, since his is their life to deal with as they please? Don't be retarded.
>>533333039
>White UK citizen
British people?
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Why?
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>>533334513
No, my bullshit works as long as we accept that the people in charge are not perfect and we take steps to keep their mistakes or abuses from becoming irreversible.
You put someone in jail for life, you have several decades to let them out if it turns out they were wrongfully imprisoned, whether by accident or malice.
You can never un-execute them. That's why the government should not have this power.
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shit you're both retards that was his point
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>>533325931
Please stop sharing this story my heart can only take so much. This is terrible, he's a monster, not even human, needs to be tortured to death. It's shit like this that keeps me from believing God is all loving and all powerful. What did she do to deserve this? Where was God when she was being dismembered what the fucking fuck!
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>>533337640
He saved her from this future.
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>>533325931
this dude should be publicly hanged. in fact we need to bring back very public executions as they serve a real purpose in both justice and letting sickos now that their ass is one rope swing away from death if they commit heinous crimes. the problem is like 70% of all hangings would be nogs and then people would cry racism
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>>533326095
Jewish Sharia Law, a.k.a. "Noahide Laws," are already underway in all Western countries. These laws propose the immediate death penalty without trial by jury and without appeal for such "crimes" as "idolatry."
Listen to this podcast with 4 Jews confirming the details which are beyond belief: https://geopoliticsandempire.com/2025/12/16/noahide-laws-greater-israe l/
Those who are against the death penalty will be the biggest supporters of this death penalty, as long as Jews are in control of it.
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>>533326012
>in any rational society (like Iran) he would be taken outside and shot in the head
You mean hanged on the spot slowly with by mechanical advantage?