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>>533333435
America is a rich first world country with third world social norms. Americans haven't gotten the memo yet, so they're opening their fat wallets to every swindler middleman and every "small business". Third worlders haggle with everyone to prevent this. Americans are still used to paying the posted price. You all need to learn to haggle and walk away. Art of the deal. It's not a first world country anymore.
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>>533333435
Its expensive but just like 20-30% over.
I heard Americans haggle the price for services anyways?
Mobile means he comes to you I guess?
So:
Battery
Drive there + back
cost for vehicle
hourly rate (I have a min rate of 30min)
For someone being too lazy or dumb to do it himself this is a pretty faggy answer.
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I do almost all my own maintenance. Can't believe how much oil changes cost now, fuck paying them $200 for something I can do myself for $30, and there's a recycling place right by me that I can just drop the old oil off at.
Did my transmission fluid too since my car has over 60k miles in it, man that shit smelled rancid but it was as easy as changing the oil only the car needed to be leveled, just used some jacks. Would have again cost over $300 to get that done at a mechanic.
As for everything else, I get new tires at Costco and get some good deals there, and as a member they do the install and everything. A battery is easy enough to do yourself too. Just get one at autozone or wherever and change it yourself.
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>>533335249
Literally you.
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>>533335284
I have a window of about 20x20mm to get a 300 mm wrench extension to the bolt that holds it. Then I have to remove that bolt and its hook without dropping it into the gut of the engine, right next to the belt. I can do it in five minutes now, but the people who made this definitely need Jesus.
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>>533336107
Let's see: Something like 500 saved, for one hour of extra work with a longer drive to the shop and all, compared to the guy coming to your house. At 2500 hours of actually usable networking and business fraud time per year, you need approximately 15M invested.
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>>533335210
NPCs treat cars like phones. Put fuel in it and use it until it breaks then buy (lease [throwing tens of thousands of dollars down the drain] or loan [going into tremendous debt]) a new one. They have been conditioned by planned obsolescence and proprietary right to repair obstruction that everything is disposable.
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seems fair to me.
24/7 help anywhere it's priced around 300/500$.
do Americans really bitch for a fistfull more dollars?
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>>533337528
in the 1990's he would of called a fren to jump his car then goed to the car fixer store and buyed a new battery and installed it himself. im fact last time i went to the irish car fixer store to replace my tail light bulb the lady at the store was all like oh yeah i know all about those kind of cars and wanted to go and help do the replaceing. i think i have car jumping cables in my car for some reason
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>>533337746
>They have been conditioned by planned obsolescence and proprietary right to repair obstruction that everything is disposable.
...and also the fact that fixing stuff or making stuff is not cool and only fucking many bitches is cool. bitches have utter abject contempt for ppl who do things for themselfs instead of paying someone else
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>>533336631
Your parental guardian of your unit decided upon themselves to remove physical sensors from the tip of your benis from your meatsuit in this timeline which you cannot undo. You have been desensitized and marked like cattle. You are now part of the NPC spectrum that cannot comprehend what sensations are felt from having said foreskin. At least we can educate future fathers to not fuck up their son’s lives when they get thrown into this timeline. The psychological trauma you had to endure when you escaped the womb is part of the reason why you are calloused and numb. Remember those blood curdling screams? You can be in denial all you want. Just understand sex in vagene is incredible when your exterior benis skin doesnt have a layer of keratin. How can you make judgement of what is bad and not bad on perceptions of sensors that are not physically there? Is your foreskin in the room with us now or does it just haunt you only in your mind? Your neurons sent blaring signs of WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU MAKE YOUR NEWBORN CRY IN PAIN AND INFLICT HARM as you listen to your son cry for help while you give permission. Psychopaths are not born, they are created through trauma. You already went through trauma escaping that prison as you egress out of a vagene and saw the light! Imagine the smell! That foul rancid gefilte fish aroma that permeated through the room when your mother got aroused. To get strapped into and held against your will and not your choice of getting what gives you pleasure that you will never experience be removed. Physical wounds heal. That is why we, the ones in our original form that God (whatever God you pray to) embedded in your genetics and chromosomes and intended us to be, to educate you so the mental wounds would scar over and remind you of the dumb goylem you were destined to be. Dont be like your parents you fuckin goylem.
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>>533333435
what the hell kind of battery is he buying? i had the same thing happen this week and it only cost me $150 to replace it myself. rode all the way to walmart and back on my bike to get it, with the core return one way and the new battery the other. was not easy but it saved me $500+ apparently.
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>>533335210
People are pretty silly, however some cars place the battery in silly locations. My mom's BMW requires a whole bunch of crap to be taken out to get to it. When I bought my car I had no idea where the battery even was. I look under hood, don't see it. Pop the plastic cover off thinking it's under, it's not. Open the back, look under hatch, no battery... Look for owners manual and there wasn't one in the car. Then I start looking under the floor mats and don't see anything. I finally got frustrated enough to Google it and it was under the floor mat (I missed it) behind passenger seat. Only indicator there was anything there was a tiny silver screw with a star head.
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>>533334624
base rate california licensed ASE labor is $110/hr as regulated by the state. So, 1 hour car battery change will be $110 min labor charge. $330 makes sense if they're charging for 1 hour drive to/from your car. $400 battery is about what a duralast AGM now costs before taxes.
$800 is an alright quote for an on site on call battery change. Which is why I have AAA because AAA will only burn me $200 for the battery no labor on the service call.
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>>533333435
What kind of a battery costs $400 lmao?
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>>533334297
Hello, sir. I move to Canada and am no luck with Canada girls. Can you share wisdoms for me so I can to fuck on hot white woman? I were cologne but it doesn't drive woman horny for me. Pls help I'm so lonely and horny.
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>>533338340
a duralast AGM
the west isn't like russia with only one car battery for all vehicles/trucks. Here, there's three different flavors between Ford, GM sidepost and Chrysler. And European H3-9 series batteries that you might be familiar with.
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>>533334359
That's probably what he ended up doing, he just wanted to see if the convenience of having someone come out and doing it was worth it - I might pay $50 markup for that sort of service, but they're asking $500.
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>>533338597
Nope. An OEM ACD 78 is $220 now. These are known to be shit, most people want the gel pack AGMs because they take more abuse and last longer. A 78 AGM is $400 because the discount yellow odyssey batteries are known to have defective cells.
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$400 isn't that much for a battery when a non-AAA service call is probably $800. AAA's $200 batteries are known to be shit too, but most will last at least a year, sometimes more if you're easy on the AC.
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>>533338621
And why do you need a deep-cycle AGM battery?
It's not for an RV or a boat or some off-grid solar system, it's a fucking car battery even the cheapest ones can last 5+ years.
Ironically I have an American battery in my car (Exide), it was like 70 EUR I can't recall, but a fraction of $400.
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>>533333435
they gotta pay insurance, travel time an fuel, they all gotta provide a warranty in that warranty they gotta cover fuel, and vehicle deprecation money lost not selling a battery etc.
your also paying for the convenience.
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>>533338961
me too but half of all drivers are women
>>533338978
Most people don't own their cars in the first place, most drivers under 40 are still making payments and just need the car to last about 48 months or 4 years. So when the battery dies, and the bank/dealer will not cover it because they're jewish, they come into the store and get mad at me for charging them sales tax. It's tolerable when it happens once, but when it happens twice or more they get really mad and throw a fit. I just tell people with new model cars to get the premium battery unless they want to come back. They don't, so it's a safe investment.
Anyway, deep cycle is needed because women will run the AC without the engine on which kills the battery.
>it's a fucking car battery even the cheapest ones can last 5+ years.
Nope. Most car batteries here last about 18-24 months. Most less. Sure you can just add more acid, but nobody does that in practice. Batteries die faster in cold areas because people (women) will turn up the heated seats and blast the heater when the engine isn't running, and the engine itself needs more cranking power in the first place.
This isn't like Canada or Russia where you can just hook up to a block heater and avoid all this.
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>>533338229
Nigger you better be no older than like 18-19. Start accumulating tools now and hold onto them. Yard sales are the best, then flea markets, then thrift stores, then harbor freight. Don't let some braindead retard talk you into buying strap-on tools.
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>>533339290
The only time I've had a battery die on me prematurely was when I had a problem with my electrical system (French car, go figure) that drained it completely a couple of times.
If you're not a retard (woman) and your car doesn't have excessive parasitic load or some other electrical problem, they don't die that quickly.
Or maybe that's just in backwards Eastern Europe, maybe you're getting jewed with batteries in the Jewnited States of Jewmerica.
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>>533334297
I've fucked 5-6 women on my street to cover the labor for their auto repair costs.
I had a gal that needed new valve cover gaskets put on her Honda but didn't want to pay the mechanic the absurd price of $1700. She bought the part, I spent 30 minutes installing it. She fed me dinner/beer and fucked my brains out until morning for over a week.
It's literally the easiest pussy to acquire.
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>>533339539
I've personally killed at least six or seven batteries just from tool charging. It's very commonplace in trucks without PTOs. I've personally replaced hundreds of batteries by people, mostly women, who leave the AC on always when they're in the car.
Since you live in Eastern Europe, your battery standards are very different, and stupid people can't afford to drive. Does your car even have AC and when's the last time you used it? What about your heated seats? Most people use both every day between their AM/PM commutes.
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>>533333435
EH BIG GUYS
he said MOBILE REPAIR BUSINESS
they told him price for mobile phone battery
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>>533339664
By your own admission people kill batteries out of ignorance, not because there's anything inherently wrong with standard lead-acid batteries, so I've made my point.
You're welcome to try driving here without AC and heated seats.
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>>533333435
This is totally real. The same exact thing happened to me last week.
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>>533335113
How many miles away is the closest battery store to where you broke down. In an atomized nation you don't have people who will come help. So you could end up walking 30 miles there and back even in a suburban city. Batteries are heavy, roads are dangerous to walk down and if you miss work you could get fired.
What was your point again? You are better off than others for some reason and that makes you a better person? Would you rather he take you down to use your car or take your battery?
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>>533339999
What a waste of digits. Anyway, a battery is something you test annually and replace every 5 years regardless of if you broke down or not. If everything is so "atomized" and it's life or death your machine works, you engage in preventative maintenance.
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>>533333435
someone's getting fleeced. this isn't a "shit is too expensive" but "retards will pay anything because they are too lazy" problem.
i literally went to Interstate Battery the other day and got TWO brand new batteries for <$500. Took me all of 15 minutes to swap out myself. The fuck is wrong with people?
Even if you have some kind of complicated location like in the trunk, usually it's just "another 30 minutes" of work at max. No battery swap should take any semi-competent mechanic >1hr to complete. So how the fuck are they charging $300 worth of labor on this?
>>533334255
step three is very important
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>>533333435
To be fair the batteries now have gotten out of control. Had to get one for my truck last year and it was 200$. They use some newer version, it’s not just a regular lead acid battery so they get to charge double the price for it. In this case maybe learn to do it yourself faggot.
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>>533340379
That's the price I pay for not wanting to break down. I got a Duralast Gold last year for $300. That's $60/year amortized on my schedule and hardly an expense to me. It only would get "cheaper" if someone like you were willing to risk a breaking down.
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>>533340570
Bro, do not have a multimeter? They're like 5 bucks at harbor freight. A bettery will let you know when it's on it's way out long, long before you're in danger. You don't need to just replace them every 5 years.
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>>533334297
>u guise did u know
>prostitutes will have sex with you in exchange for services as well as goods
that's why they're called prostitutes, anon, bragging that you got access to high mileage pussy for your time is silly
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>>533335249
core charge is like 25$ hed have been better grabbing an uber to walmart. Hed have been better towing it. Batteries dont cost 400$, not even in a 2500 HD truck. They cost like 250, Canadian, in that truck. 120-150$ for the battery, 15 minutes labor which is about 40 bucks on a mobile repair guy, add in travel. That should have been about 250 bucks total.
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>>533340570
I have four cars, and I've never gotten less than ten years out of a battery. I replace mine when they're starting to get weak, it's easy enough to sense. Once every few years, I run a reconditioning cycle with a trickle charger. Why throw money away.
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>>533339391
>Remember that a real deal commercial diesel truck is x3 of these or x9 of lead-acids in parallel. And, this often still isn't enough with how people push their vehicles.
I just put adapters on my cables and buy cheap Marine batteries for my cars.
Can go months without a car being ran and the battery fires up.
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>>533340329
The guy is driving out to the car. The tools have to be on the vehicle, the guy has to drive, and everything has to be done in the field. It a service for the rich to have their vehicle serviced in their driveway, so he can pay the price for the convenience, otherwise his faggot ass can go get a battery and put it in himself. Don't really get to complain about a luxury service charging to much, just makes you seem poor.
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>>533340912
I don't care if you waste money, I just don't get why - and you claimed that replacing every five years is what someone is supposed to be doing.
>>533340874
If you're letting cars sit in cold weather - they should be indoors on a decent trickle charger.
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>>533339115
Yes I was also quoted outrageous prices for a low quality service and when I questioned the price they angrily said
>we are a business and we have to make a profit dont we??
So i cant really afford this despite being well off by my countries standards so im starting to think their business isnt viable.
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>>533340800
Okay. Good. Once a year or so (especially in the winter) make sure the battery didn't lose more charge than you're happy with overnight. Is your engine needing to turn over one time more than normal before starting? Check it with the multimeter immediately after turning the engine off and then after it sat overnight. If your battery is holding strong there is no sense in changing it out. As long as you're not always letting it die you can easily push them way longer than five years. They don't suddenly die without warning unless you let it lose too much charge which can sometimes kill them.
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>>533341209
>If you're letting cars sit in cold weather - they should be indoors on a decent trickle charger.
>all 4 of your cars
>or 7
>should be
You live on a property with 12 other people and they sit on grass, and it rots their frames. Welcome to Canada, nobody owns homes anymore but lots of people got their dead fathers old cars.
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>>533340970
I think a lot of people operate on a min/max mentality and life just doesn't work that way. These same types tell you to put yourself in retarded financial positions to chase 1%.
>>533341209
You obviously missed the point of that entire post: you can be preventative or risk it, and the choice is yours. I would rather spend money than risk it. That's why I make money in the first place.
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>>533341258
Whatd you have done, if they cant justify the parts and labor then its just a scam. Jobs take certain amounts of hours. If its like yea changed your oil filter 4 hours labor, you can just sue them.
Or you know I mean maybe you decide that you have *too much* used motor oil and dont know what to do with it, and youre standing in the middle of the washroom looking at their toilet and sink and. People think crazy things sometimes you know.
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>>533333435
IF YOU CANT AFFORD THAT THEN MOVE TO A NEW COUNTRY!
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>>533334476
labor is bullshit. I bought some tires for my car and got harassed into taking them to the mechanic bh my mom once and the labor cost as much as the tires and she wouldn't even admit she had screwed me. Costs less than 100 bucks for a jak and the tools but with her it's always "it's too hard for me, so it must be hard for you!" because she's a fucking incompetent bimbo.
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>>533341353
I usually only have one of my cars indoors at any time (need the space for my motorcycles), but it doesn't get cold here.
>>533341413
Look man, you do you, and the math is a little different for commercial vehicles - but replacing batteries every five years is just throwing money away for most people.
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>>533333435
When I got back from Alaska and had to pull my car out of storage, it cost me 250 dollars to get it jumped. Robbery. It's like when H&R Block quoted me 780 dollars to do my two W2s.
>We are a business and charge for our services
Yeah, too fucking much is what.
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>>533341543
The only reason it costs that much is its a mobile repair service, which should be cheaper than a tow since it involves not needing a huge truck and gas. He quoted 358$ labor but didnt declare how many hours that was, or the rate. THAT is how you know its a scam. All mechanics bills will show the exact parts, as he did - (battery) and labor, in hours, with rate, so you know how long he worked and for how much. Heres how that would look:
Labor: 358$ (.25 hours)
{Hourly Rate} $1,432$$
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>>533341413
You are a fucking loser lmao. Imagine bragging about doing something that literally nobody does because it’s fucking stupid and the only person backing you up is clearly a jew fleecing your money because you’re a pussy who’s afraid of breaking down like a fucking woman would be. If you really don’t want to break down just learn how to tell if your battery is getting worn out instead of setting some arbitrary timeline of replacement based on nothing more than a stupid guess that tickles your autism.
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For 800$ you could get both your rear airbags bought, and replaced, and front pads, and installed - in Canadian dollars. Thats the type of repair 800$ is, its actually only about 550$ US for what I just described. 750 for a battery is outright theft.
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>>533341695
You're dead wrong in this discussion. Your battery is just a car part like any other. You treat it as such. Do you arbitrarily change tie rods, ball joints, struts, rotors, pads, etc etc? Of course not. The only things that makes sense for are fluids and belts. Everything else gets changed when it's time.
You're just making yourself look mechanically illiterate repeating these lowest common denominator platitudes meant for stupid people to keep them out of trouble. That is not meant for competent people.
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>>533341926
You’re not a jew, you’re the mark. The whole point of learning something is to save money, otherwise why not just be a real spender and have someone else do your shit for you? Imagine wasting money AND being DIY. You’re like a kike’s wet dream, wasting piles of money and doing the labor yourself lmao. How the fuck did you even come up with a five year schedule for high quality expensive batteries? It makes zero sense
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>>533342242
Alright, well, apparently I've triggered the resident /o/ posters. If you'll excuse me, I have to go change my oil because it's been 2001 miles since I last did.
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>>533342357
Oil is 5000 miles 7000km. Ideally you do it at like 5-6k instead yea, so closer to that 3k miles.
If your car manufacturer says it goes 12k, thats a lie, and you will be buying a new engine. Cadillac tells people shit like that.
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>>533336737
Jew doesn't know how identifiable he is
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>>533342357
Sorry for actually knowing what I'm talking about and trying to help a nigga out. You have a multimeter. You have ears. You don't tell the battery when it's time, it tells you. It doesn't suddenly die, there will be signs. You seem smart enough to be able to handle this.
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>>533333435
Fraud insurance will cover let’s charge outrageous fees. Brown people taken over lots of things you can tell whites scam to because everyone is scamming some justifying it because of billionaires. Pay suppression. Some do it to do it. Long and short. Everything’s fucked. Golden age needs to purge scammers by public executions
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Also the thing with oil is as your car ages it develops wear and play in the cylinders, eventually you can imagine the pistons start slapping against the walls of the cylinders and grinding on them, and the engine will shake itself apart. Thats how your 400,000km 2002 honda civic dies, one of several ways anyways. So while this is happening, before it shakes itself apart, for a long time itl leach gasoline into the oil through that space in the cylinders and pistons, and it degrades your oils lubricity, in other words it becomes less good at being oil. Its less lubricative, and you get more grinding.
So thusly, in a higher miles car, change the oil more. You can also smell the oil on the dipstick, if it smells like gas, replace it.
>>533342657
Oil life is an estimate it doesnt actually measure quality. It means nothing except time since last change.
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>>533334709
If it’s bad for America. Thanks liberals
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>>533333435
It costs nothing to throw your number around as a "mobile repaur business".
For a $700 battery replacement I'll be your "mobile repair business".
I'm amusing that's the logic here, probably some wide-net jerkoff tgat gets paid by retards for random types of jobs.
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>>533334297
Profit
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>>533335302
So what?
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>>533338179
You rode your bike home with a car battery?
That seems like a challenge at best.
Way to get it done, anon
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>>533340879
Cope and seethe. Imagine his fat belly jiggling, gray pubes getting soaked in her pussy juice, and her gobbling up his cock as you cry all over your key board lmao
Boomers literally cannot stop winning.