>>533365750
>trust the experts
Yeah. Don’t trust any of (((them))). Eat only foods you recognise as being whole, and that you prepare and cook yourself.

>>533365750
Most animals don’t run on sugar dumbass. Fat rules the animal kingdom and even the herbivores are able to break down the plants into short chain fatty acids. Basically every mammal is in ketosis except us which is why you’re fat and retarded OP

there is nothing wrong with aspartame

it's 2 amino acids

sucralose tastes like metal

>Chile
I trust these experts.
Did I tell you about the time I was raped by a fat ugly goblina in Santiago?

>>533365750
Why the fuck would anyone eat that shit?

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>>533365750
>Stevia and sucralose
Saccharin chads, we just keep winning

>>533365826
except most people especially americans are almost never in ketosis

>>533365823
But suddenly you trust these experts now that they're telling you something you wanna hear?

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>>533365750
The head of the FDA responsible for approving the use of Aspartame in American foods was a man named Donald Rumsfeld

>>533365750
Sweetener rating:
>cane sugar: 3/10
>aspartame: 2/10
>Ace K: 5/10
>Erythritol: 7/10
>stevia: 9/10
>allulose: 10/10

You’re welcome /pol/

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>>533365750
>Chilean researchers found that mice given sucralose or stevia passed on changes in metabolism-related genes to their children and grandchildren even when later generations did not consume the sweeteners.
Sheeeit nigga!
Gets you some o dat diet grape soda yo!

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>>533365910
>Saccharin chads, we just keep winning

Go OG drink sweetener.

LEAD for the win. It's what the Greeks and Romans used to sweeten their wine, powdered oxidized lead.

>>533365750
I use one here which is cyclamate + saccharin and it's great

>>533365750
Then were all products of that… some of us. My grandma had bottles of sweet & low liquid in her cupboard since my dad was a kid.

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For the 5 of you that are literate, here's the paper:
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2026.1694149/full

Figure is a low res screenshot because original is webp.

>fox entertainment

Thanks I think I am going to pass. Honestly that cesspit might just be the most low quality propaganda mill for retards in the world

>>533365898
because it tastes like sugar and the same amount of sugar is way worse for you

>>533365750
this shit has always tasted like poison to me. I can't stand artificial sweeteners. glad my autism is finally vindicated.

>>533365750
>one study
But yes, everything we do alter genes. It's not like they unlocked a third eye discovering this. It's more about how fast it changes our genes, but I assume the study goes into that.

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>>533365750
Joke's on them, I won't have any future generations anyway.

>>533365750
japan uses stevia alot and their fine, it just a plant bro calm down.

>>533365750
Not my problem

>>533365914
Not at all. I trust them less. What I do trust is that if they don’t say something now, it’ll be j&j asbestos / talcum powder type court case and they’ll be on the hook for billions. So I trust their greed and selfishness more than anything else.

>>533365910
Just eat sugar. Or better yet, don’t eat either.
>zero calories
Then why consumer it? It’s literally telling you it has no nutritional value.

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>>533365927
>The head of the FDA responsible for approving the use of Aspartame in American foods was a man named Donald Rumsfeld
Not quite.

Rumsfeld was CEO of Searle, which developed Aspartame. Aspartame was going to be shot down by the Carter FDA, because the poison was actually eating holes in the lab animals' brains.

The Searle scientists were discouraged, because their sugar substitute was actually deadly poison. But Rumsfeld laughed and called them idiots, saying to them "This isn't a scientific problem - it's a political problem."

And the timing was such that during the Apartame approval process in 1980 Reagan made his secret deal with Iran to keep Americans hostage so Carter would lose the election (the Israelis had sabotaged the earlier helicopter rescue attempt), and it was the Reagan team that was going to rule America in 1981.

And Donald Rumsfeld was on the Reagan transition team.

The very first act of this transition team was to order the FDA to make no further rulings on the safety of Aspartame. THIS IS WHILE CARTER WAS STILL PRESIDENT AND THE TRANSITION TEAM HAD NO OFFICIAL POWER.

Then, after Reagan is sworn in in 1981, one of the first acts was to fire the previous FDA head and install the Searle- and Aspartame-friendly Arthur Hayes.

The old (Carter) FDA panel had voted 5-0 to ban Aspartame because it caused brain tumors. So Rumsfeld and Hayes stacked a new FDA "safety" panel, and voted again.

Even the stacked panel still voted 3-2 against Aspartame - it was that poisonous.

But Rumsfeld and his company Searle were not done.

They had Hayes appoint another member to the panel. This new toady voted as ordered, and now the vote was a 3-3 tie.

So Hayes then appointed himself as the seventh member of the panel, voted to break the tie 4-3, and Aspartame was approved.

Following this absolutely metzitzah b'peh of public safety, the following events occurred:

(oops, 2K char limit - go read about the political payoffs after Aspartame's approval)

>>533365750
Well thank God my mom only started drinking that shit after I was born. Probably explains why her kidneys are failing too.

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So stevia changed our genes hundreds of years ago?

cause that plant has been aroud that long

>>533365826
You are unbelievably retarded. Deport yourself

>>533366032
you forgot a rating for xylitol although erythritol is close.

>>533365750
I thought conservatives didn't believe in evolution

>>533365750
Stevia is a plant that's already been eaten for generations. It has absolutely no side effects.
> keep eating sugar goy
No.

>>533365750
implying we will have an offspring.

>>533366032
What about high fructose corn syrup?

>>533365750
ive been drinking diet soda every single day my entire life from age 14 to 37 and im 6'2 228 lbs 14% bf and look like a ubermensch (as stated by 4chan when i was young and dumb and posted my picture here) fitness model

ignore this bullshit, they just want you fat and retarded, low calorie drinks will make you ripped and happy

>>533365750
aspartame acesulfam k and from memory, sucralose, all taste like shit and make me feel like shit, not to mention I could gorge on 3 (proper not mickyd) burgers and one coke zero would immediately make me hungry again. stevia and maltitol are ok, though, but the latter is not zero calorie

that being said fuck your soda your dirty fat retards, but on the rare occasion I have some, twice a year at best, I might as well get the real thing

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>>533368284
14/10 based on a review by Shekelstein PhD Expert™.

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>>533367913
I chose the pic of Michael J Fox to go with the Aspartame story because soon after Aspartame was approved both Pepsi and Coke rushed to make "Diet" drinks using Aspartame. Michael J Fox - a VERY big media star at the time - signed a big and highly publicized contract to promote Diet Pepsi. And he started guzzling the stuff like water, all day every day.

And it wasn't that long after he started his massive ingestion of Aspartame that MJF started exhibiting Parkinsonian symptoms - which puzzled doctors because he was young and healthy. Why would a very healthy young man suddenly develop a brain disease of the elderly like Parkinson's?

It was the Aspartame. But there was far, far, FAR too much money at stake for anyone near MJF to ever consider that as the cause.

(It turns out that as Aspartame is metabolized by the body the toxicity causes effects that are similar to other diseases. But because the symptoms aren't caused by those diseases, the standard treatments for those diseases don't work. Poor suffering bastards.)

Aspartame was eventually such a cash machine it was purchased from Searle by... (((Monsanto))). It was renamed "NutraSweet," and eventually made its way into tens of thousands of consumed products, from drinks to food to candy to baby products to toothpaste to medicines.

It is so ubiquitous, and so poisonous, that it will never be removed from the food supply - because if the truth were fully known the resulting lawsuits would sue the entire world into oblivion.

The only option is to be watchful for it as an ingredient, and never, ever consume it.

>>533365750
Bet they won't dare publish anything similar about genetically modified corn and söy, and the glyphosate ("RoundUp") herbicide that's now sprayed on not just GM corn and søy but many other non-GM crops because it makes the dessicated plants easier (and thus cheaper) to harvest.

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>>533365750
More and more of this shit is coming to the limelight. I've never felt better since I cut artificial sweeteners out of my diet.

>>533368091
>the plant is the same as the end compound used in all artificially sweetened drinks
We both know you’re being disingenuous.

>>533365750
i just hate how they all taste so i avoid them for that reason.
all artificial sugar has a taste. anymore i can taste the actual corn from corn syrup and its ruined a lot of slop for me.

>>533365826
Do you know what the kreb cycle is? What about the electron transfer system? Or how about adenosinetriphosphate? (ATP). You’re a midwit at best; disingenuous faggot at worst. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt here. So we’ll go with the former.

>>533365841
>aspartame is the same as aspartic acid
You’re a faggot, you know that?

>>533368977
>all
there is numerous and they're all different, but have the same purpose.

>>533365823
I agree. I cook all my meals and I only use single ingredients. I use hand portions. It's a nice method so I don't over or under eat. Here it's pretty easy to get sick from eating out.

>>533367796
The talcum thing was also because of a (currently contested) study by "the experts(tm)."
Is it lawyers you trust, then?

all part of the psyop to make you accept pseudoscientific premise of epigenetics, and get your administration occupied by "7th Generation holocaust victims" as consequence
t. noticer

>>533365750
>Yeah. Don’t trust any of (((them))). Eat only f
What were the mutations?
Are americans all fat because the 'Greatest Generation' went all in on artificial sweetener?

>>533365750
I'll still keep drinking that garbage

>>533369417
Epigenetics is incontrovertibly a thing. The heritability of acquired epigenetic modifications is very weak, however.

>>533369563
yeah thats what i meant.

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>>533365750
fucking idiots still haven't learnt you can't get something for nothing.

>>533365750
>this article was sponsored by the American Sugar Alliance (ASA)

It's not their fault, sugar makes you fat but you keep eating it.

>>533365914
Nigger, haven't you ever had an aversion to all the chemicals in shit without the Internet pointing it out? I was born in 82 and I've been reading labels a long time and if it's something I'm consuming, it's always been as basic as "I'm positive thats not all necessary to be in this"? Social media has ruined your brains

Literally everything is fine in moderation, excepting being a faggot or a nigger.

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>>533369697
>Zero-calorie sweeteners could alter the genes by virtue of not having the caloric requirements for mitosis.
Phizer, hire this man.

>>533369793
>haven't you ever had an aversion to all the chemicals in shit without the Internet pointing it out?
Genuinely no with maybe the exception of yellow 5 (I might be allergic but haven't been properly tested).
I've been reading labels for about as long as I could read as it was just a weird pseudo-autistic fixation of mine. I am convinced most people's aversion to "muh chemicals" is pure hypochondria.

>>533369822
I want that to be the slogan of the department of health.

>>533369822
>Literally everything is fine in moderation, excepting being a faggot, nigger, or jew
ftfy

>>533369363
Are you retarded? Define (((expert))).

>>533369563
>very weak
Still, if it happens and over long enough periods of time there’s certainly potential for it to significantly impact the gene pool.

>>533369793
Based.

don't even care if it's true or not but people obsessing over having their cake and eating it too has been a disaster for the human race

>>533370315
>Define (((expert)))
People who dedicated their lives to studying a particular field and publish novel findings in that field.
For example, the talcum lawsuits were a result of a study that claimed to link it to cancer. Those people making that claim were among "the experts." I dropped the lawyer point as a snide remark about how you put so much weight to this claim, seemingly, because there were lawsuits about it.

>>533370373
It does not impact the gene pool. That you say this is a huge flag that you're trusting some journo faggot to accurately represent the study. That's not what the study says (or what epigenetics even is).

>>533365750
>Humans are so fucking dumb
You mean jews are so fucking evil

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>>533365750
>mice

>>533365750
>could
Won't. Epigenetics is a meme and are altered more by environmental radiation than anything you consume.

>>533365750
I only drink water and milk for the most part. Even juice makes me feel like I'm full of sugar, it's horrible.

>>533365872
I believe you burger bro. There are plenty of those Snooky shaped goblinas here

>>533365823
FPBP. We're meant to eat plants and animals. If it doesn't look like a plant or an animal don't eat it.

>>533370409
Regular coke has non nutritive sweeteners here. It's the con-sequence of a sugar tax. This is not the only country to have been targeted by some sort of global lobby to put artificial sweeteners in food. They even put them in children's breakfast serial. They don't say which poison, just generic non nutritive. There's a huge upsurge in kidney failure and every little town has a dialysis clinic

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>>533365750
This
I know sugary Soda is unhealthy, that's why I drink it
I'm old enough to decide myself what I do to my body
Not drinking the fucking Cherry Coke Zero, I DEMAND the option with real sugar you stupid niggers, I'm not buying your sugar-free bullshit, get fucking lost

>>533370583
>people who dedicated their lives to academic pursuits
Agree. My problem isn’t necessarily around the pursuit of science per se, though that is dubious/questionable a lot of the time; it has more to do with the fact it all seems to revolve around money. As if the pursuit of knowledge is secondary to securing financial success, these so called (((experts))). That’s largely my point in. I was being facetious which I will admit is not a good faith way to start a conversation…
>epigenetics
Gene activation. So… if the environment shapes you, and genes make you; expressing certain genes increase/decrease fitness without actually changing your genes, ergo, they do have an impact on the gene pool through selection. So, yeah. It does.
T. Studied bio/medicine (undergrad)

>>533367913
>>533368669
This is all bullshit with no source provided.
Fox's Parkinson's was caused by exposure to toxic materials, he is one of four people who worked on the 1970s Canadian show Leo and Me who later developed early-onset Parkinson's.
The fact that four people got the same disease on that show is a smoking gun.

>>533365750
>Deirdre Bardolf
There's no way this is a real name

>>533373593
Grim. Only two thoughts really come to mind; it’s for money, or for purposefully weakening people (easier to control). Arguably, both can be true.

>>533365750
I stopped using sweeteners because gf didn't like what my sperm tasted like. I still half suspect she altered my diet to be healthier and more boring on purpose, but I would rather have my daily blowjob than a can of zero sugar energy drink.

>>533365910
My grandma ate the shit out of that until she died of cancer. Not really.

>>533365750
only 140 million Americans consume it? but there are billions of people if you include Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, etc

are they only counting unitedstaters?

>>533373889
Money is a signal to middle management. Upper management has money printer; if you want to trace the network look into the proponents of sugar tax laws around the world