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What terrible number is Dave trying to get ahead of with this?
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>>20245560
The show that did 4.2milly last week? Gonna say nah
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>>20245560
>Last night’s WWE Raw show (April 13) for whatever reason, is not listed as among the top ten television shows on Netflix for the day.
>This is clearly a glitch, which has happened before, not worldwide but in specific countries, where for whatever reason it doesn’t get listed. The key is that on the first day, the show is almost always either No. 1 or No. 2 in the U.S. and Canada on the first day of release, as well as a number of other markets. It is not listed in the top ten in any country, so it’s clearly a mistake. We expect, as has been the case in the past, this will be updated tomorrow.
>On the weekly charts, another interesting glitch, or more likely a change is that the Tyson Fury vs. Arslanbek Makhmudov boxing match on 4/11 at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London was not listed in the top ten worldwide or even in the U.K., even though it was reported that there were more than five million viewers in the U.K. That number would put it at no lower than No. 5 worldwide just based on U.K. viewers alone, and likely far higher when you figure in the rest of the world.
>It appears Netflix is eliminating actual sports from its weekly television show listings, perhaps because the Anthony Joshua vs. Jake Paul numbers on the weekly chart with numbers was a major contradiction and was much lower than the weekly chart indicated based on total hours viewed. Netflix recently did not release the number in its weekly chart of the Major League Baseball opening day game, although when the Nielsen number for the U.S. came out, just based on U.S. numbers alone it would have been comfortably in the top ten in the world even if nobody outside the U.S.watched it.
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>>20245573
>From the listings from 4/6 to 4/12, which includes the 4/6 episode of Raw, they listed the show as No. 6 among English language TV shows, doing 5.5 million viewer hours and 2.9 million views, identical viewer hours as the 3/30 show and down 3.3 percent in views. Based on first day numbers previously listed from another source, it was down 9.2 percent, which makes sense going against the NCAA finals.
>However, using Netflix numbers and the time of the show, the 502,000 worldwide views watching before Netflix switched to the edited version late Tuesday was more than double that of the week before. Still, if the 2.9 million figure is correct that would still mean only 17.3 percent watched before Tuesday afternoon and 82.7 percent watched after. It makes no sense whatsoever but it is more than double the percentage of previous weeks. So the Netflix numbers do not show a decrease in live and same day viewing at all, and a minimal change from last week.
>Based on their numbers and a 60 percent live and first day viewing, we would have 2,491,000 views for the full week with 3,363,000 viewers, 1,345,000 in the U.S. and 874,000 live and same day viewers in the U.S. The numbers would be down only 1.6 percent from the 3/30 show.
>Netflix listed the show as the No. 6 worldwide English language television show, but that’s based on numbers that can only be achieved with 82.7 percent watching from late Tuesday on. Based on usual actual viewing patterns it looks to be No. 8 among English language shows for the week and at best 25th and likely lower out of all shows, since we only get a top ten and the No. 10 English language movie did 3.2 million views. And in all these cases, it’s probably one slot even lower because of the Fury fight that they’ve decided not to list.
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>>20245574
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In their listings, it was the No. 4 English language television show for the week in the U.S. (down from five the prior week), No. 8 in the U.K. (same as the prior week), No. 7 in Canada (down from six), No. 7 in Mexico (up from ten) and No. 9 in England (down from eight).
>It did not make the top ten in Saudi Arabia, Australia, New Zealand and France. Last week it was No. 9 in Saudi Arabia but not in the top ten in the other countries.
From one year ago, Raw on Netflix was up 3.4 percent in worldwide views but it was also a 15.2 percent gain in new homes that can get the show outside the U.S. The U.S numbers look to be down 19.2 percent for the same day year-over-year.
Should only be 1 or 2 more parts to what Meltzer was talking about
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>>20245578
>There were two very unique things that stood out in the TNA ratings on 4/9.
>The first was that according to Nielsen it was the No. 1 show of the entire night with teenagers, which of course makes zero sense. And in being No. 1 it was due to having an 0.08 rating which consisted of an 0.16 with teenage boys and 0.0 with teenage girls. Last week TNA did 0.04 with teenagers and the week before was 0.02 and the week before that was 0.005 and before that was 0.0.
>The other thing clearly wrong is that in 18-49, it was 42.9 percent male when wrestling almost always is 55 to 80 percent male Male-female was 66.7 percent last week and 55.6 percent the week before.
>The show did 257,000 viewers, the second best number to date (the record is 259,000 on 3/12), with an 0.04 (48,000 viewers) in 18-49 and an 0.04 in 18-34, 0.06 in 25-54 and 0.08 with teenagers.
>It was up 28.5 percent in viewers from 4/2, which went head-to-head with Collision, however it was down 21.3 percent in 18-49, was even in 18-34 and 25-54, and was up 200.0 percent with teenagers.
>The show did 1.26 viewers per home. The idea that men were so low in 18-49 but with teenagers they were, based on these numbers, at best for women with the idea the 0.00 is at best an 0.004, it would be 97.6 or higher percent males among teenagers and there is no way that is possible.
>The show was 64th in homes viewing, 62nd in 18-34, 52nd in 18-49, 55th in 25-54, first with teenagers and 63rd with total viewers.
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>>20245600
>In a thread about Raw, Boxing, and TNA Numbers
>I must talk about AEW
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>>20245600
As If I cared whether AEW has any cultural prestige, unlike you turbovirgin freaks that think WWE is a respected and cool brand to rep
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>>20245554
>dark markzer opinions
Who gives a shit?
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>>20245582
>clearly wrong because they improved
kek
meanwhile it was reported by the same people who always report this shit. theres a thread up about it
>>20243252
I'm GUESSING it is related to bde and streamer stuff and hype for the PPV
The interesting part to me was it was the ONLY AMC show in the top 100 for cable. Reminder teenagers barely watch TV anymore so if there was a lot of hype for it in their specific community I could see a surge.
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>>20245651
>dark markzer
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Dave believes that ratings matter.
His cult drinks that Kool-Aid.
It never mattered. WCW was pulling 9 milly and still got canceled.
Trannies need to wake up!
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Dave cried real tears at the thought of gAyEW getting exposed with a "No Half Milly?"
He said
>"this is gonna ruin prowrestling"
And yet ratings never mattered to TNA/Impact? Still alive after 2 decades while ROH pre-taped matches rot up Tony's asshole.
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>>20245554
what happened with the high level mathematicians?
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Can never work out with wrestling fans hate wrestling companies so much.
WWE is giving Netflix a first run, live show that hits their top 10 global every single week. That's insane value for Netflix and they're using it as a benchmark for other sports rights bidding.
AEW is part owned by a media conglomerate and is going gangbusters considering its on TV which is a dead platform for anyone under 35.
TNA, which is essentially just a big indie now, has a respectable TV deal and does good ratings based on its size and budgets.
Wrestling is thriving as a media business at the moment because it has a loyal and hardcore audience who will watch weekly and follow the show to whereever it goes. Streaming platforms are literally desperate for those types of shows. The success of WWE on Netflix is absolutely great for AEW and will lead to a monster deal for them in the future.
This is probably the most successful the wrestling business has been financially since 1997 and all you fucks do is pray for everything to fail you mentally ill retards
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>>20251414
Blame the asshole AEW fans on here, at least for why I'm a prick. I used to fantasy book, do what-ifs, all from a position of constructive criticism and curiosity. It was clear to anyone reading along I wasn't being vindictive, it was all just for the sake of discussion. But the dickhead AEW fans would derail every single thread I made, every conversation I tried to spearhead, never trying to counter me with facts/research but just being assholes and hurling insults, so fuck them and fuck AEW, at least as far as /pw/ goes. Every AEW fan on here can suck my fucking dick.
I tried it the right way and the assholes rejected it because I treated AEW as something less than perfect the way it is.
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>>20245554
The entire reason Nielsen mattered was because they had safeguards in place so viewers couldn't just leave the TV on for 18 hours/day, leave the house, sleep, go to work, and give faulty ratings info. Nielsen viewers have to press a button every few minutes to prove they're actually in the same room as the TV, watching the show.
But now that they're tracking/aggregating Smart TV/cable box/satellite viewer data without a Nielsen tracker device, everything is all fucked up, viewers are being counted that aren't actively watching along with pirated streams being counted as viewers. The lower in price Smart TVs get, the more data they need to sell to break even, the more likely they are to sell your viewer data not just on "TV mode" but on each individual HDMI port. Better read that EULA and don't just click accept right away!!!
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>>20256583
Anger tends to make people eschew the truth in favor of hurting feelings, and I always try to tell the truth even when I'm my most vitriolic. I don't hate AEW or want it to fail, in a vacuum, but to the extent it will cause the unrestrained seething and lamentations of some of the most despicable people the internet has to offer? It's hard not to at least passively root for their collapse.
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>>20257361
For me, AEW will always just be another side effect of the wokeness boom of 2019
It would not exist without TDS as ironic as it is