>>84368248
Americans throw the term "goth" at anything with a little makeup and hair dye.

>>84368256
And they're right, goth was never a culture just a dress. Like emo with the shitty haircut.

>>84368248
I don't get what goth culture was originally supposed to be anyway. Same with scene. The best I can tell, the women who were fans of a certain music genre dressed weird, and eventually guys saw those girls in high school and it changed their brain structure forever. And now all those girls dress normally and are married to accountants, while guys who barely spoke to them are still obsessing over the outfits she wore in the 90s and 00s.

If you aren't christian or christian adjacent you can't even be a goth to begin. The fact that's a "hot take" means that goth is a meaningless word since a long ago

>>84368263
>>84368268
It was a subculture, and it was associated with actual goth rock, the genre. Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nephilim, The Mission, etc etc.

>>84368306
You're the nigger type that OP is pointing out. Goth is a 300+ years culture and retards associate it with trash british bands

>>84368248
I would actually fuck in a cemetary and enjoy it

vieze gothic

The appeal of goths to anyone who wasn't a drooling retard is the same as the appeal to every 'alt' style and scene; sincerity and passion for the things they enjoy. Scene, emo, grunge, all the same shit. It is literally just about finding people who aren't secondaries attractive.

>>84368336
>>84368248
you can't fuck in commentaries because the fucking dude that watches over the commentary literally has nothing better to do than to stop you and call the police on you. i was hanging out at a commentary once at like 3 in the morning and this asshole that worked there started watching me and talking to someone on the phone, they literally just chill all night so they're alert to any person showing up, maybe they have hidden cameras or something. plus commentaries are like open fields you can't really hide anywhere unless you're at a rich commentary and fuck inside a mausoleum. but i doubt that would work.

>>84368386
I got a cemetary in a forest and literally nobody guards it. I walk there alone sometimes

>>84368268
whats important to get is that its a counter culture so you'd need to understand what was mainstream to really understand why people actually needed to become goth then. it may just look silly to you but it would have felt like a survival tactic to them.the best way to summarize 80's subcultures is probably to watch the breakfast club.

>>84368319
Gothic romance novels were not a subculture.

>>84368336
I worked at a cemetery for two years. That is desecration, and if I caught you, I would beat you for disrespecting the dead.

>>84368248
Good I used to hate those freaks. Now their identity is nothing but reduced cumsluts.

>>84368549
Cemeteries are a useless waste of space, let the kids fuck and least put it to use.

>>84368491
it's probably forgotten or abandoned or something, i guess people could fuck there.

>>84368495
Well, it's not counter culture anymore. I'm not convinced counterculture exists at all anymore, actually. What's left? Furries?

>>84368549
This is such an incredibly gay take that I have to assume you're a Christian. I hope someone ejaculates directly on your relatives' graves for being such a faggot. Having sex in a cemetery is a victimless crime. In fact, the real crime is not letting people fuck in a cemetery and instead thinking it should be some hallowed grounds for thinking about your dead fag relatives who are up in heaven sucking your Jewish god's circumcized dick. Fuck you christnigger

>>84368555
Cemeteries are hallowed ground. It is a moral offense of great seriousness

>>84368336
>>84368549
>>84368555
>>84368584
Cemeteries are serious business guys.
People are just dying to get in!

>>84368583
The dead were under my protection.

>>84368567
I'm pretty sure it's not abandoned since it is the only one in our town.

>>84368549
>>84368584
I don't beleive in anything holy. If i would die, i wouldn't mind people fucking on my grave.

I've just gotten to know my alt girl neighbor.
Are alt girls always this fucking handsy?
We're like 4 weeks in and she's already being touchy.

>>84368319
He's right though, goth was largely influenced by the post-punk music scene + Victorian/Edwardian era aesthetic + some horror/macabre aesthetic

>>84368622
If a girl is not touchy she is probably not interested in you. Or not interested enough

>>84368600
And who is going to protect you when I insert my member into your vulnerable asshole in the early hours of the morning while you're looking over dead people? I'm going to turn your asshole inside out against your will, and I'm going to do in on the graves of the dead you are unable to protect. You're FUCKED

>>84368609
Where are you now? I wanna fuck you to your grave

>>84368658
Siberia. Come here, i'm down for sex

>>84368632
Idk, if it was a normie woman i'd say yeah "a sign of interest" but idk about the alt girl, this one just has no concept of personal space sometimes, i don't dislike it but i am not sure how i feel about it, she might be this handsy with other dudes.

>>84368687
>Siberia
I think you are lying. I think you are giving me to "cold shoulder" LoL

>>84368695
She like you bro. Next time you go to the bathroom tell her, "come with me" then have her hold your dick while you pee
She will do it

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>>84368248
I took a girl to a cemetery for a date once. We were walking around and I picked some flowers off a grave and gave her them. She called me really creepy. It's over

>>84368736
You are indeed very creepy

>>84368598
>>84368706
I will slap you for these puns. Stop this at once!

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>>84368306
>Sisters of Mercy
Andrew is going to have a fit lmao

>>84368628
And the post-punk music scene is the fake part which overtook the original and now wear it's empty shell

i hate range bans that makes no sense

>>84368549
>all the degenerates mad
kek
It's funny how that type of person gets so offended when you don't support their degenerate lifestyle

>>84368752
Those are just two of the ten jokes I submitted to a double entendre competition
Out of all of those jokes you wanna guess how many won?

No pun in ten did

>>84368779
I bought a 4chan pass since whole siberia is range banned

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>>84368687
Nah, you fly to me. I have roads you can drive on too, and tigers

>>84368268
"Goth" was just a label that music journalists slapped on Joy Division. Even Siouxsie, the biggest fashion inspiration for goth, doesn't like the label. Her style was basically punk + bdsm

>>84368718
I have zero experience with women honestly, it's why i am asking cause I don't wanna develop feelings and find out that she does that with other dudes, maybe it's best we stay friends.
Maybe i should try what you're telling me LOL

>>84368798
What do you do with the tigers?

>>84368803
Run from them

>>84368785
That's actually a very smart pun, ngl.

>>84368802
I am giving you experience. Tell her to do things and she will do them for you, like follow you to the bathroom when you tell her to

>>84368806
Doesn't it make them even angrier?

>>84368806
As a furfag, i'd run at them

>>84368248
She is attractive.
But this isn't actual goth. Call it "alt" if you want. She is just dressed in darker clothes and caked up in makeup to look more pale.
It's also just done for attention. Sure, she looks good and might actually like the way she looks in that style, but she made her whole fucking persona to be this "goth girl", jumping in your face yelling "look at me! I am a goth girl!". All of this just further her OnlyFans and make money from posting her fake balloon tits to thirsty simps who pay for nudes.

I have no interest in these girls whatsoever. I don't see a point in following them. They may be a bit nice to look at. But I cringe at her trying every single viral trope. And what's the point? I'm never gonna date her, all of their posts feel "plastic" because they are made to sell me something.
I truly will never understand the people who would pay for this shit.

>>84368808
All puns are smart. Only people with inflated egos think they are better than brevity
I have a pair of Brevity brand shoes, the soul of the shoe in made of wit

>>84368816
Well, I have never seen a tiger in the wild so I was mostly making a joke.
If I was irl hiking deep in the woods I would have a gun and shoot it

>>84368811
Will do that, cap.

>>84368820
How does cross breeding work in the furry community?

>>84368841
And just say it as you say everything else, and come back and post results when it happens

>>84368248
Isnt that one just an onlyfans whore like the bilbobaggins one

>>84368845
If niggers aren't human, does that make white american women furries

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>>84368248
Because the concept of being a poser existed. Being part of a subculture demanded you take part in said subculture.
Sure, it lead to dumb infighting and constant knowledge checking, but it scared of people who were just playing dress up.
Now? Nigga everyone is fake for a camera. Every goth girl I've seen just does it for online content. None of them listen to rock music let alone anything even slightly considered goth.
They don't get shit for dressing the way they do. Nigga in the 80's and 90's you were liable to get banned or get beaten up for not conforming.
00's you atleast got treated like a human even if you got made fun of.
Everyone just dresses however now. Most people listen to niggerbop anyways.
The people that are real fans are grown up and dress like normies. Maybe normies wearing black pants and a black tshirt, but still normies.
Most of them have careers now and arent couch surfing while trying to figure out their life while going to community college anymore.
Shit, people barely drink anymore, let alone smoke cloves and black and milds. Horror movies? People have netflix and aren't as obsessed with them like they used to be.
The culture died, but the style lived on.
How you dress is no longer an accurate reflection of who you are.
I've met girls who are obsessed with horror, true crime, and metal that wear sundresses. I've met goth bitches that only listen to hip hop and are scared of horror movies.
What the fuck is reality anymore.

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>>84368268
>>84368256
It's a themed character concept men wrote in fiction and then women copied as a costume. It's like vampires or superheroes there never was any "real goth girls" just an idea of them from movies mostly. Likewise with "scene girls" it was a short lived fashion trend that barely any women even did fully in real life. I was 14 in 2004 at the apex of that shit in a cultural hub city and I only ever saw a "scene girls" on MySpace pictures online. Like cosplay girls today they probably only did that shit at home for pictures then went out normal. There was never any at malls, schools, or events anywhere. Zoomers don't really seem to get it but most of this nostalgia for subculture obsessions are massively exaggerated or outright lies and most of it didn't exist much outside of television, movies and cartoons.

>>84368903
Its because we stopped telling people in person when they have a shitty idea.

>>84368901
Are there niggers in the room with you right now?
Or do you often think of niggers out of the blue?

>>84368248
Idk much about goths but goth nowadays means some black makeup and black clothes. Do these niggas even know about bauhaus, siouxsie, and the cure or do they just know the hits? Goth music was post punk related and its own thing. Nowadays hoes just use goth as another flavor of normie. They're literally normies with a bit of black

>>84368920
it's a philosophical question, ma nigga

>>84368549
nah nigga you gay
fucking on top of the dead is the only way a nigga can get hard and cum really hard because the dead spirits be giving a nigga wood and shit

>>84368935
You are day dreaming about thinks that annoy you. So more like you are day nightmareing
Save your dreams for when you are sleeping

>>84368248
You think I give a fuck about how much Bauhaus or The Cure a girl listens to? Zzzz....

If a girl's cute, she's cute. Simple as.

Play dress-up all you like, but don't pretend your purity tests actually change anything. You are not special, you are not working against the system from within - you are a mouse in a maze, and fake is what I like.

>>84368736
I don't know if creepy but that's just dickish even if you don't believe in graves bro.

>>84368836
Maybe it's only my imagination but i think a tiger wont die from a gun and will eat you

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>>84368248
>>84368283
>OP's screenshot guy sees a girl on Shitter
>Blames her style on "reddit crap"
When did anti-reddit become an illogical religion?

>>84368987
The tiger will eat you if you have that attitude

>>84369005
I would try to befriend him

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>>84368915
Actually yeah that too.
I mean it still happens on social media I guess, but all that shit is performative.

>>84368904
Becomes clear as day if you ask any dweeb obsessed with "goth girls" where he obsession comes from. He'll name cartoon and movie characters and online pictures never real people. Goth girls are as fake of a concept as disney pirates it's just a costume and character trope.

>>84369010
Start leaving tigger food out side your village with some clothes you have worn so it will associate your scent with food

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>>84368263
It all falls under the umbrella of counter culture. The sub cultures like industrial, metalhead, goth, punk, emo, scene, etc. All have different flavors of dress, music and lifestyle to match.
Emo was probably the most normie of all of them, cause except for a haircut and accessories and make-up, the style is what everyday people wear, just tighter.

https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/american-diner-gothic

>>84368600
>the dead were under my protection

would have been more funny if the guy who was fucking in the funeral had said this, accompanied by an image of a condom

>>84369043
the wonderful thing about tiggers is that I'm the only one

>>84369062
Emo hasn't been what "everyday people wear" since the myspace era. That was the only time it was common, and even then it wasn't the majority, even amongst teens. I never dressed emo despite being 14 in 2006, did like the music though.

Goth is Allan Poe, Dracula, cathedrals, gargoyles, Frankstein, stained glasses, pointed arches, dramatic imagery and not some random faggot post punk music
>muh culture/subcultures evolve with time
Yeah, but this isn't the case. That's pure subversion. Evolution is continuing the past work, not destroying it all and exchanging for something vaguely similar

>>84369356
they traded in the culture (high effort) for the fashion (low effort and high reward)

>>84368718
>hold your dick while you pee
Holy cute
GIW I could have a girl do this
>>84368336
This. it must be gigakino
>>84368491
Are you in Yurop?
>>84368609
I have this half baked fantasy of wanting a mausoleum for my grave that's literally made for romantic lovers seeking to get it on by the dead percy and mary shelley style, and literally over my dead body.

Are you based like this guy?
>>>/tv/201684768

whores ruin everything. they wear other cultures as skin to get simps. they did this shit with nerd culture, now it's goth. it's all the same to them. it's just whatever they think will get them the most social credit

>>84368768
He should try releasing some non-goth albums instead of being known exclusively for making goth rock and then whining about having his band called goth.

>>84368549
Lots of cemeteries are hubs for homeless junkies and feral niggers to have sex, I don't get why would anyone defend that or get turned on by it lol

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>>84370836
He did, its called Vision Thing and nobody got the joke and thought he wanted to be Guns n Roses. The thing about the Sisters was that they were always taking the piss ("Alice" is about how all "goths" are retarded faggots who thing crap like tarot is real), nobody ever got it and he still did it better than any of hos contemporaries. Not bad for a retarded student communist who never grew up, which is something he has in common with goths 2bdesu.