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Effortful living for men requires a current or potential other to live for.
Women naturally move toward "self-love" and "me-first" thinking. Evolution built this in because simply investing in themselves contributes to lineage survival ("staying alive theory"), and even post-reproductive women reduce infant mortality through presence and knowledge transfer ("grandmothering effect"). A homeless woman can find reason to live through basic safety, food variety, and casual social connection. Women can have reasons for living that are entirely self-directed.
For men, reason for living comes from someone who "justifiably" depends on them now or potentially will. Kids, a girlfriend, a wife, a dependent family member. Not just material dependence, but where absence would register as emotional loss or betrayal of responsibility. Outside of current or potential others, men have no independent reason for effortful living.
Men with gf/wife or dependents can sustain effortful living like holding a job, which for most men is an inherently submissive experience, unlike for women where a workplace can feel like a social community they want to be part of. Anime, games, and similar can keep a guy temporarily occupied but provide no persistent reason for effortful living. Food variety, shelter, and safety can motivate avoidance behavior but are not reasons FOR living. Escaping pain or hunger or humiliation do give some reason to try to avoid but they are not really reason for effortful living.
Women have or can be guided toward self-generated reasons for living, and additional reasons come easily for them since they are wanted everywhere. Normie men can eventually acquire reason for effortful living too.
For the rest: since the modern world offers plenty to stay busy with and so there is no default reason to die. But there is also no reason for effortful living.
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