2, and then rape her daily

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I should mention that both of these hypothetical women love you a lot, each in their own way.

>>84373169
>2 hates PIV
I feel like you left out anal here on purpose.
Dom girl that hates PIV but likes it up the butt is very cute.

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>>84373195
No, she doesn't like anal either
Your sex life would be eating her out, fingering her, and kissing her toes. If you ask nicely she might let you cum with her feet on your face but if you don't specifically request it, she's not going to offer.
She's just all about getting her own physical pleasure, that means lots of clitoral stimulation, anal does nothing there.

>>84373169
1 but would take either

>>84373169
I think most men would obviously pick 1
Femdom fetishists would also pick 1
Actually submissive men would pick 2, but they are quite rare

>>84373212
this is literally the dream, I need a two-tier breakfast gf

>>84373169
I've dated both and I preferred the second one, honestly.
There's nothing like the thrill of knowing it's "real", it's not roleplay, she actually is just domineering. I totally get why natural femsubs end up with actually abusive men.

>>84373169
Option 2 is the only one that's actually dominant. That's how real dominant women actually are IRL.
That being said I'm picking option one any day, I want a woman who will indulge my fetish for me occasionally, not someone who will be a bitch and boss me around and actually control the relationship.
For anyone who's not a spineless push over a relationship with option 2 would be miserable.

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Both are nice but I think a relationship with 2 would be more stable
also weird that she'd get off from fingers and mouth but not want piv. whatever, I just want to be a knight and have a princess to serve, spoil and pamper all my life, sex is not important.

>>84373179
>>84373169
where do you find these artworks btw?

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>>84373368
/femdom/ on /trash/

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>>84373339
(I'm OP)
I agree with your first point.
I think real dominant people of any gender aren't that kinky, real dominance is basically sexual selfishness and most often manifests as non-reciprocation. Getting yourself off without regard for the other person.
Going super kinky and tying up your sub and spanking them and making them cum 1000 times is basically something that open-minded switches do when roleplaying as a dom, lol
I don't think that's an issue, as you mentioned I think the vast majority actually prefer this (good, giving, and game).
And I also don't think that true sexual selfishness is a bad thing, trusubs (who are quite rare as you say >>84373311) thrive on it

>>84373366
For the purposes of this hot hypothetical she struggles to get off from PIV and in any case sees it as demeaning to women.
From a purely physical pleasure perspective I think oral+fingers feels better to most women, PIV does feel good but not good enough to get off unless accompanied by psychological arousal, more of a femsub thing desu.
Look at how women get off while masturbating, it's all rubbing and vibrators and rose toys

>>84373368
I just save them from 4chan mostly

>>84373409
I agree completely. This is also why i have no plans to ever do femdom IRL. There's just simply not enough women into it that aren't trannies or more like option 2 as described here.

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>>84373169
Reading the second option got me harder. I should want the first option but my cock is desperate for the second.

>>84373169
2 has a hotter disposition but I don't wanna have to do all that crap so I'll take option 1

2, submission has nothing to do with sex

>>84373169
I really don't see a point in option 2. I only want to be dominated in the bedroom, leave the rest of our relationship's dynamics out of the fantasy

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>>84373169
>Option 1:
>- Will fulfil any of your depraved, kinky desires in bed: she'll roleplay, whip you, peg you, ballbust you, cuck you if that's what you're into
>- She does get turned on by it, because she is generally quite kinky and sexual in all ways, but her main motivation is making you happy - for another man she might have been a sub
>- High libido and always wants it
>Option 2:
>- Exudes naturally dominant vibes in every way
>- Assertive and demanding, bosses you around outside the bedroom
>- Protective and possessive over you in public
>- Sexually selfish, expects you to give her orgasms every time (e.g. via oral or fingers) and doesn't care if you cum or not.
>- Sex once a week on her terms

personally these are the only qualities that i am fine with despite option 2 having more qualities that i am fine with i'll go with 1. Mainly because of ease of living with her.

and i dont think most men are that much submissive that they will choose 2. they are only submissive as long as the woman doesn't make their life a living hell. most "submissive" men arent ready for the real dominant woman

despite what i said my dick tells me to choose option 2

also >>84373240 is this you?

>>84373470
very relatable

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>>84373453
There definitely are a decent number of women into the kinkier aspect but they're all megaswitches who will get their fix of being dominated somewhere, either from you or someone else.
With a horny submissive partner they often end up as hotwives.

>>84373545
>>84373557
Normal healthy men

>>84373470
Unhealthy freak just like me

>>84373169
Submissive men are disgusting and aren't real men. Send them to the frontline to die.

>>84373587
I can't be drafted I'm too skinny

>>84373592
They'll fatten you up, don't worry. And if you refuse you can die in a cell I don't care. The only way you should be allowed to live is if you're castrated, nuts and dick.

>>84373606
They already tried to draft and failed to draft me for zat reason

>>84373628
Then someone needs to cut off your twig and berries. Or they need to do a second run and ignore any bullshit excuse and just send you. Only real men deserve to live

>>84373169
I prefer 1, Fetish life stays at the bedroom. The second is just the average woman

>>84373647
I don't think you've met the average woman

>>84373729
I did and so have plenty of coworkes, classmates, team mates...
Believe me that the average woman is the second one: low sex drive on her terms and bitch but possessive.
A woman that is nice, kinky and has a sex drive, now that's weird

>>84373639
What qualify as a ''real woman'' then? At which point do tubes get snapped?

>>84373169
i want a 2 that i end up dominating mentally, not really dominating just showing her that she is not above me and can't control me but i still give her the things she wants out of love.

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>>84373409
I'd love to have a sex life based mostly around pleasuring her with my fingers and mouth. desu the bigger issue would be that once a week is not often enough for me... I'd like to see her cum once a day.

>>84373169
2 would be very fun for a short while. Would become unbearable after ~1 year. 1 sounds ok for a stable relationship, though I might get annoyed with her being a pushover in the long run. I don't wanna lead nor be lead in a relationship, I want a partnership. Though at least 1 cares about me, unlike 2.

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>>84373739
It's true that most of the women I've dated are low-medium libido selfish pillow princesses. But I absolutely select for that.
Most women I know think of themselves as submissive, enjoy rapey romance literature, want the man to take charge. It's a different vibe.

>>84373829
True, I think in my ideal world, it would be every day as well. But it's about her wants and needs, not yours. 1 is about fulfilling your every fantasy, for 2 you have to sacrifice frequency for authenticity.
You can give her daily massages and other nonsexual pampering though

>>84373838
They both care about you :)

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>>84373169
Unironically 2. I feel like 1 can get out of hand real fast.

>>84373169
I could do with either frankly. As much as I love femdom, ultimately it's just a fetish. I care more about how well we click personality wise. Will she be a quiet nerdy introvert who hates socializing like me? Will we have pleasant conversations and do fun stuff together? If so, I'm down for just abou tany "style" of femdom. From those two options, #1 seems a little better sexually and #2 also sounds like she could cross the line from bossy to bitchy which is a concern. Overall I'm not too keen on people who are dominant IRL, though she doesn't have to be kind of a pushover like #1, just independent. So I prefer option 3:
- Will fulfill a reasonable amount of my kinks, within her limits, and likewise will try to get me to fulfill hers, respecting my own limits.
- Has switch potential, with natural enjoyment of both dominance and submission.
- Moderate libido, is fine if I'm not in the mood.
- Respectful and open-minded, but critical and skeptical, won't play along with any nonsense and can call me out on my bullshit and stupidity.
- Generally hates most people and just wants us to pair up against the world.
- Understands the difference between a fetish and real life, can get off making me her bitch boy in the bedroom but we treat each other like normal human beings otherwise.

Option 1. And that's how I discovered I'm not an actual sub.

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>>84373169
Both is disgusting. Submissive men are dead ends and I'm going to be insensitive and say that they don't deserve finding love from a woman. They can't satisfy number one because they're pussies and therefore are ruining women. They are a detriment to society if they are simps going after number two. Any dominance in a woman has been rightfully bred out if male degeneracy spreads that far. It's worse than being a faggot or a tranny. At least those are completely unimportant.

>>84373907
Oh god yes please I'm already hard keep telling me how worthless I am.

>>84373992
Where's the option for a powerbottom that'll groom my weak pathetic ass into becoming a real man?

>>84373992
I'm a man. You won't find women with thought
out opinions and that's why you won't really hear anything like that from them addressed to you.

>>84373888
It's ok, not many men are
Lots of men have a femdom fetish but that's different. It's just a general result of their hypersexuality

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>>84373169
The first one. I want a chill relaxed relationship where I get my prostate milked on a regular basis.