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What is the most likely way we could achieve immortality (if it were possible at all)? Transferring our consciousness to a machine, cloning of a new body, or what?
I personally think there's a hard limit on the biology of the age of the brain that will render any form of biological immortality impossible.
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>>16934528
having children is the best we can offer.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-k9sTAYEQ&pp=0gcJCdgKAYcqIYzv
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>>16934528
Growing new neurons is possible, brains already do it on a limited scale.
With genetic engineering, perhaps with added nanotechnology, there is nothing stopping us from regenerating every part of the brain in the future.
There aren't any hard limits to potential biological lifespan known to science. It's all practical challenges we are facing.
>>16934567
Subjective.
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>>16934528
Transferring consciousness and new clone bodies are not immortality, it’s just you making someone who is like you but not you. I doubt consciousness can ever be transferred and even if we did it we would have no proof it happened.
>>16934567
I am not my genes, my kids are about as me as a stranger I teach some of my opinions.
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>>16935236
Who are you if not the growth from your origin to where you are now? Is that growth not its seed? All three are a tree.
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You won't get a valuable answer on a board where most of the people reading every post are materialists. If you want an honest answer: the Buddhists, Hermes, and Christ all shared the exact same views on this.
>inb4 schizo
Been tested.
>inb4 wrong
Incapable of fundamental inference ability
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>>16934528
maybe artificial brain that replaces each part of your brain ship of theseus style with more resilient parts but will probably never happen
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>>16934528
My only answer is "who cares?" Only those who desire immortality, which is a grotesque desire.
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>>16934528
You are already immortal, which gets worse the more you think about it. You literally cannot end your own experience.
See quantum immortality.
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>>16935886
can confirm
t. shotgun suicide survivor
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>>16934567
Having children would solidify time. If you died and your children were still growing up, when they reached the afterlife they would be grown up and you would look the same and not know them like you did when you were alive. Some might take off into space to keep memories alive.
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>>16934528
I think the closest we'll get is some form of highly robust artificial error-checking and correction system for cell divisions, likely copying and modifying+upgrading mechanisms already present in very radiation-tolerant bacteria and large mammals. Until then, stay on top of the proteomics literature and you might survive until its development.
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Just drink a bunch of mercury bro
t. Qin Shi Huang
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>>16934528
the universe is infinite which means you are also infinite
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>>16935292
What a weird post.
No shit people on science board would be materialists?
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Biological immortality could still be possible if we developed a real anti aging drug of some kind along with healing drugs. I think we need to figure out how to crush illnesses and age before anything else. Being an android could work or just replace your guts with mechanical or just lab grown versions that can replaced.
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>>16935173
Isn't the cap 700 or 900?
Anyway if we do discover something that lets us live that long then we need to focus on either healing the planet or getting off it asap, or some other crazy shit. No point in living that long if the planet becomes uninhabitable or we get gulped by the sun and well, we probably will die anyway because of heat death so unless we can universe hop or some shit we're fucked either way
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>>16938180
Proof?
I dont understand being so sure about things we have no idea about or have proven impossible or false. Reality would be much cooler if some of the shit people say was true but alas all we have is this gay rock and a laughable lifespan that doesnt mean anything
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>>16935328
Who wouldnt want to be immortal?
Unless we somehow discovered the afterlife or some other spiritual concept is actually real then i wanna stay alive till ive had my fill at least.
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>>16934528
Faith in Jesus Christ and God the father guided by the Holy Spirit.
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>>16934528
>Transferring our consciousness to a machine
Kills you and replaces you with something else
>cloning of a new body
Just creates someone else.
The only kind of immortality that will work is regularly growing new organs in labs to replace old ones, as well as germ line and other gene treatments to prevent genetic degradation and a hundred other medical treatments besides. It'll be complicated with the brain especially; might have to remove pieces, replace them with more, wait a bit, remove another piece, and so on.
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>>16938251
>Kills you and replaces you with something else

no it doesnt.
t. materialist
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Probably gradually replacing parts of the brain with machinery that allows for the continuation of consciousness, then replace all the organic parts with technology and replace the technology whenever it starts to wear down.
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>>16934528
We have already achieved immortality. Our genes are immortal.

We as beings are merely the vessels they use as tools to ensure their continued existence.
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>>16934528
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There are no hard limits on biological immortality. Cells in aging bodies do a full and total reset on age all the time, that's how babies are made
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>>16935886
>You are already immortal

Grim.
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I don’t think I’d want to live forever, if such a thing were possible. Don’t get me wrong, life is good and all, I just think after 80-90 years maybe it’s time to hang up the spurs. I wanna know what’s beyond… if it’s infinite nothingness so be it. Plus could you imagine how horrible this world would be if everyone who ever lived kept on living?
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I'm so glad I'm not a materialist anymore
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>>16934528
Immortality is the absence of entropy
Entropy is an axiom
Therefore immortality is no possible (unless you are God, praise him)
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>>16944882
a way to just repair and replace brain cells would be preferable. that way you continue on feeling like a regular human. consciousness is spread out to different parts of the brain, you have different types of memories in different areas of the brain. different areas control different functions. I do not know if there is just one spot where the soul is, but if I had to guess, I suspect its somewhere around the brain stem. my worry is that replacing areas of the brain could remove whatever that part is we consider the soul. and I wonder if there soul or consciousness could really transfer to machine parts after being connected to our nerves and being part of us a long time. I'd feel safer replacing every other body part aside from the brain with machine parts. but, if we do ever discover that we could ship of Theseus our brain with chips that do the same functions as those regions over time, and that our soul or consciousness could integrate it, I guess it would be alright.
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>>16934528
>>16944882
Retards, Neurons are already biologically immortal.

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