>>16937896
Id argue that people who are being targeted and afflicted as victims of the wealthy white devils play loud music to drown out the signals from all these communication tools and towers

Its definitely an unseen warefare

>>16937882
when we start punching doctors

There needs to be more public awareness. Despite affecting something like a billion people, most kinda just think of it as an "it is what it is" thing and don't bother to consider the possibility of a cure. If you can get more awareness you can get more funding and are more likely to have treatmetns.
I think stem cell therapies may be promising as solutions.

When enough people donate to Tinnitus Quest, the only nonprofit that's actually funding real tinnitus research based on finding a cure.

My brother has it, but doesnt believe me. Try to help him if this works:

I think it's about electrolyte depletion, by use of detergents, long hot water baths or swimming pool in plain water. This happens slowly, through years of doing. Much like blue eyed people lose sulphates and copper and their eyes become gray, because the body needs them for whatever and takes them from the iris.

The listening comes from some kind of "hairs" dipped into a multiple electrolyte solution inside that snail shaped organ. Works by conductivity and audio transmission, being some electrolytes specific for some frequencies or such.

Hence, in depletion of some of them, like, idk, magnesium and phosphate, the system fails on those frequencies.

Recovering them is long term, bc if the body had to get them, it means they lack everywhere, so, to get them again in the ear, you have to refill all the body, by slow diffussion of all of them.

What do? long baths in the sea, no plain water shower after. For long time. Sea water drops into the eyes and maybe inside ears too. Drink or cook with some seawater, to get it also by digestion. As many ways as you can will provide different options for diferent molecule sizes and other characteristics. Diffussion is a very slow process.

And, of course, gloves when dishing with detergents, shorter showers and pool time. Maybe spray seawater after it.

About ingesting it, note sodium (na) is very excess in body and makes you urinate a lot. Dosify small and bear in mind it will be a long process.

Also, proceed at your own risk.
Just sharing what i suspect with no evidence. Hope it helps.

T. Abductive mind.
Help my brother with it, and with vocal cords cancer.

>>16939104
my airgun exploded in my room and deafened me and when I went to the ER they laughed at me and wouldn't give me prednisone
now my ear rings 24/7 and i want to kill myself

If you can cure tinnitus then you can cure schizophrenia because it's a psychosomatic issue where you're fucked with extremely vivid and persistent audible hallucinations. All the research points to this difficult fact.

>>16943135
Try it, anyway. Electrolytes help.
Sorry i cant offer you a better thing.
Best luck, fren.

There is evidence that Ginkgo Bilboa (check if it has interactions with any meds you're on because apparently it can have bad interactions with some antidepressants) can reduce tinnitus, as well as CoQ10, vitamin c, and alpha-lipoic acid. Weight loss also seems to help, as does a healthy sleep schedule

just get schizophrenia so the voices cancel out the ringing

I have no allergies and take an antihistamine nasal spray because of the Tinnitus. It isn't gone, but I feel it is reduced and becomes easier to ignore. Well at least it doesn't switch the tone back an forth anymore, that was very annoying. Not really a cure, but worth a try.

>>16937882
You get used to it after a while. First year I had to sleep with masking noise (cricket sounds work great) but after that I don't even notice it until someone mentions it.

Since aging is easy to fix according to the rich people don't you just have to wait for that then the downstream problems take care of themselves?

>>16937882
Just regrow the hair
Shove finasteride and minoxidil in your ears :^)

I don't really get tinnitus thank god. I only get the normal occasional ringing that goes away almost immediately. I just assume these are my ears adjusting to a new pressure differential or something happening in my stomach that causes pressure in my sinuses to dissipate. It seems related to eating or drinking a lot. But in any case, I rarely get it anyway.

>>16943804
Just had a thought, I could actually just have it perpetually and not even know it I suppose? Maybe I'm just used to it by now since I'm in my 30s. I probably don't even notice it. How do you tell? Do you have to sit in complete silence or something? If that's the case, well, that's gonna be tough because I live in a major metropolitan area and it's noisy as fuck 24/7 here.

>>16943807
Oh you'd be able to tell
Especially at night
Just a long continuous EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>16937882
I have tinnitus but I only get it when I think about tinnitus or someone mentions it. Then I take notice of that goddamn endless ringing.
It's a bit like when a house alarm in the background has been going on for so long that your brain just kind of ignores it, until it stops and then you realise it was making a noise in the first place

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>>16937882
>The amount of young people in this thread who already have hearing loss
Is tinnitus the new myopia?

>>16944321
i went to anime conventions that had raves and no one told me i needed hearing protection
then my air rifle exploded in my room and now it's so loud i can't ever ignore it no matter what i do
i want to die

is it possible to have tinnitus with no hearing loss I went to a audiologist since I have been hearing ringing for months and the test came out fine but I am worried that the doctor did not check for false positives on the test

>>16944333
Yes. My audiogram up to the cutoff at 16kHz had 0 - 10dB sensitivities and the SNRs on my DPOAEs are all passing. The only thing they didn't really talk about is how the amplitude dropped to 0 or less after about 4kHz on my DPOAE. I'm gonna try and get an auditory brainstem response from my neuro ENT but I'm worried that I will wait for months for that appointment and she's just going to give me another "comprehensive" audiogram that once again shows that my hearing is normal and I'll get nothing out of it.

>>16937882
It was my understanding that tinnitus is a partially psychoacoustic phenoma. It's like, when a sound engineer turns up a mic too much and it starts feeding back, but that's happening in your brain, ergo after the incoming audio has been converted to neuronal signals. I guess because your brain is trying to compensate for missing information from damaged cilia. I think this is why it's not simple to cure.

As regards myself I used to have pretty bad tinnitus, when I was gigging like 4 times a week, and also smoking weed every single day. Now that I only gig once a week and smoke weed occasionally, it's way better, hardly ever get it now desu

how the FUCK do i make the ringing in my ear stop
i keep popping my ears all day and it never helps

>>16937882
When US govt just starts pumping money into regenerative medicine
Senators perish from old age too (inb4 retarded conspiracy theories)
It's in their interests
>inb4 but dah pension system and overpopulation

>>16947928
why isn't the gov't

>>16937882
well it literally doesn't matter, so yea nobody is going to try and cure it. It's like HPPD. Seeing visual snow makes no difference to your capabilities.
>t. have hppd and tinnitus and don't care about either one

>>16944321
It used to be heavy construction equipment
Alongside the youth and rock concerts.

Then high powered headsets and IEMs arrived, alongside noise cancelling earbuds. This is also the generation that sleeps next to day level permanent letsplays/x to fall asleep to, which cause a different kind of permanent ear damage very long term

>>16944333
No.
Even if its TMJD or ear canal being allergic, the pressure still causes hearing reduction. The noise is the lack of an entire area of signal.

The difference is that TMJD means its flaring up related to pressure, while with permanent damage you need input in the nearby range for it to register as noise.

>>16944822
>compensate for missing information from damaged cilia
Then its somatic, and not psychoacoustic

>>16943807
>>16943813
The thing is the human ear an nervous system makes it's own noise and frequencies so outside of severe audio trauma and getting unlucky with a blatant one we can't easily tell. That and unless we can possess each other's body Danny Phantom-style we can't have a way to say
>"Jim, based on me being your body for 20 minutes and based off your totally normal medical history and your own anecdotes I have to say that your brain just naturally makes noise loud enough to be considered in the range of Tinnitius despite having perfect ear health. Sorry brah.

>>16943623
Those guys are obssesed about looking young and trying to bruteforce health.

>>16953006
Oh and it can be totally spontaneous. Deaf guys can even get it despite never being exposed to loud environments.

This noise is sent as a signal from the ears or just generated in the brain without a signal?

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>>16953084
>>16947900
>>16943623
>>16943141
The hair and nerves are inside a bone shaped like a snail shell. Seems really hard to get in and out without causing more damage than you started with.

what about cutting the nerve and simply choosing to be deaf. Not me, i dont have tinnitus.

>>16943893
>It's a bit like when a house alarm in the background has been going on for so long that your brain just kind of ignores it,
the best coping strategy i heard once (i've had tinnitus for about 20 years now) is to pretend it's like the a/c or fridge whirring in the background. there are all kinds of steady background noises like that in daily life that we tune out, so force yourself to do the same with the EEEEE

also re: a "cure," they've been saying we're just a couple years away from a cure for at least 20 years

I'm over here with encephalitis-induced tinnitus since 2008, and your conversations over pulsating tinnitus make me wonder how I haven't killed myself any time I get an ear infection or go to a concert. Unfortunately, only coping works in my case and I get the pleasure of multiple tones if I develop any infections (shit fucked me up last september at the worst time).
>what do you do about it
I work in west nile/arbovirus tracking to prevent other kids from permanent nerve damage, the spasms were one thing, but hearing loss from childhood is forever and fucks up language acquisition
>>16953198
this, I bought an aquarium for leeches (just something you do when you work with bloodsucking animals all day), which don't have a pump going on other than a bubble filter and shift it to that. Allows me to use my computer with quieter fans now.

Hi all, I have had this ranging from extreme level 11/10 to 2/10 level currently. I hear all of you and sympathize because I too have wanted to off myself because you can't escape the torture. Get yourself a good fan/air purifier that you can put on as white noise at night without freezing yourself too badly (you ideally want the sound not so much the air flow, but a cool air flow is really nice too when it's warm/hot in the room).

There is a good app I'd strongly suggest buying too called WhiteNoise Pro. I know there are a lot of these sound gen apps, but this one is one of the biggest and have the most free sounds. You can even submit your own and make lists or mixes where multiple sounds can be heard at one time. There are sooooo many free sounds I know you'll find something you love. It just masks out the tinnitus and allows you to sleep or think past the tinnitus noise.

I ended up also buying a sleep headband with really flat speakers in them that don't crush your ears or head while sleeping on your side. They work really well and are bluetooth so they connect to your phone without a cable strangling you. You can also use an eye mask/sleep mask, would suggest a 3D one so no eye pressure. But that depends on if you need it super black/dark or not. I myself do and blackout curtains still let in light around window edges when it's spring and summertime.

Anyhow, there really isn't a cure. It sucks and you're on your own basically. The doctors can't do anything except make fun of you and tell you you're making it all up.

Good luck. It's a shitty thing to have when it's really bad. Hopefully you don't get Meniere's disease or balance issues too. I get optical migraines. They suck also...no pain, just visual disturbances of pulsating light and I can't see for 30 mins.

>>16953192
I asked for this from my doctors and they wouldn't do it. There is some kind of salt solution they can inject in there and it will completely and permanently mess up your inner ear. But my doctors (many of them) told me it won't stop the signal processing in your brain. The ear is the sound gatherer and then the bones and little hairs in there are the signal processor that converts the soundwave into a signal that goes to the brain to be interpreted as sound. It's this interface between the little bones/hairs and the brain itself where this tinnitus occurs. The little hairs aren't vibrating in their fluids anymore standing upright. They're over on their sides all floppy like. Still processing sound but it's distorted and messed up. Your brain is still trying to process this noise and it can't NOT process it.

PS, I lost my hearing entirely in my left ear for 1 year. But extremely painfully, it came back and hasn't gone away again since 2016. My tinnitus levels have also come down tremendously from way back then. But it will never ever go away permanently. So you have to learn to cope or you'll end up killing yourself from the torture. There is no other way sadly. I wish there was. I'd tell you about it if there was a working solution. But there isn't...just masking and coping techniques.

>>16937882
Just deal with it.

>>16954444
how do I deal with it
it's louder than any fans or anything

>>16937882
I've had multiple hearing tests and seen multiple ear doctors and I've been told there's nothing wrong with my hearing and basically to just deal with it. Medical science is fake and gay

There's literally no cure. You have to consciously decide to stop paying attention to it. It took me 8 years but I don't hear it anymore unless I try. Make a conscious choice and say I'm going to listen to other things

>>16937882
I've had it for many years and it was absolute torture for a while, but I just got used to it. To the point that I have to focus to remember it. That's just life

I had to use orange foamy earplugs for a while (from Walmart). Bought a whole bunch of them. Sound was just soooo LOUD! It hurt a lot. The foamy earplugs helped me have a life again. You can wash them in hot soapy water too and air dry over night. I even got very expensive custom formed ear plugs (see through kind) that go into the ear canal and the entire ear form. They're made especially for me. But I don't need to use them anymore.

Hopefully over time your tinnitus lessens. Mine did. But it won't ever go away. If one listens closely too, they'll often find they have it to a degree in both ears too. Not just the one loud one. I do but the right ear isn't nearly as bad as the left.

My hearing now is actually pretty good. Weirdly, so is my sense of smell. Like I have almost super smell now and once detected a gas leak in the garage before anyone else could smell it. Sounds BS, but it was true. Got a wicked headache I get when around spilled gas, hits in the same place and the same intensity just out of the blue. Sure enough I went outside into the garage and found gas puddle on the ground. Turns out a gas can got knocked over and it was slowly leaking out into a big puddle.

So maybe your other senses will try and compensate? I don't know. It happened to me. I now have like a dog nose super sniffer but I still have tinnitus too.

Hello yes I am willing to kill in order to help find a cure. If that helps idk worth a try maybe.

>>16955453
Same I went for tests because of tinnitus and they detected no hearing loss and were unable to explain it
>>16953621
I have a smart speaker constantly playing white noise less than a foot above my pillows

>>16943175
It's Rocky Balboa dumbass

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>>16958722
if Rocky got tinnitus he'd be effectively blind and beg Grace to kill him