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Why can't imaginary numbers make sense?
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>>16945828
Skill issue. They arise quite naturally when you try to extend the rational or real numbers. All it takes is:
1. there is a set [math]\mathbb{S}\supset\mathbb{R}[/math] that forms a number field, this implies there is at least one new number in it, meaning [math]\exists x\in\mathbb{S}:x\not\in\mathbb{R}[/ math]
2. knowing only x and the reals, you can construct every element of [math]\mathbb{S}[/math] through arithmetic (addition, multiplication, division) in a limited number of steps.
Turns out, that limited number can always be simplified to 2 and the only solution is the complex numbers.
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>>16957157
The complex plane is a useful model but the reality is much simpler still:
See >>16946219
Literally everything else is downstream of that.
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>>16945828
"i" simplify the use of matrices, same with the negative symbol "-".
You cant easily teach the average highschooler how to use matrices, but you can teach them "if you square it, just add a minus symbol in front, dont ask".
If some guys go to College, they will learn the inner signification of "i" and its powerful usefulness, picrel is a well known example.
Also this if you like vectors instead of matrices :
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I have a philosophical answer.
so the root of it is... it's a piece of magic from the inner planes. The ultimate truths often look contradictory/paradoxical when viewed through the outer mind.
Imaginary/complex numbers are so elegant and useful that they cant be fake/incorrect.
But -- = + and ++ = + in the tangible plane e.g. removing from a cost (sale) is a gain, or adding to a gain is a gain (e.g. raise + salary).
So overtly the -- -> - or ++ -> - of i is incorrect. Therefore it is not an outer plane thing.
The complex numbers are essentially more fluid, mutable, mixable... and paradoxical - therefore they refer to phenomena on a deeper level of existence (inner, subjective, higher order, platonic).
The reals are ... more tangible and mundane.
The answer is to accept the paradox(es) and hold space for them without doubt and without trying to force "only one side is correct".
>O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments, and His ways past finding out!
>picrel: Leibniz knew.