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>>97460438
i remember the nemean reaver

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>>97460438
>TQ
I haven't cared since they removed rules for making your own, special characters are for ninnies.

Post models! I'm working on these last two krioses, after these I can't avoid it anymore and have to go into the tech thrall mines to finish my mechanicum.

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>>97460745
>Post models!
Primed my rapiers, raptors, and some remainder models that needed made blue. Wont get them painted in time for my game tomorrow, but thats me at no more grey models. We are /bluetide/ now.

Until some scouts arrive, in which case once more some greytide.

>>97460438
Knights errant are lame and gay.

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>>97460745
nice job west coast anon, i'm having a go at the new breachers, the kit is pretty nice

>>97460776
YOU'RE lame

I like that pistols are more relevant. Some sergeant might shoot a plasma pistol in the shooting phase, then half-fire it again in the volley section of the charge.

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My friend is offloading 20 of the older cataphractii terminators and I'm trying to figure out what loadouts to give them in a World Eaters force.

I was thinking of making 5 or 6 of them Terminator Command with Chainfists
6 with Powerfist+Stormbolter
And another 6 with Lightning Claws but I don't know if that's worthwhile when I already have 20 rampagers.
I was thinking maybe convert 6 or 8 into red butchers.
I was also thinking of using 1 as a Praetor

Thoughts?

>>97461042
>Chainfist
I don't trust melee as antitank, but maybe it's just a WE thing they have enough attacks for

>>97460438
When fluffing up campaign characters what’s a good rule of thumb for point costs? Working on some ideas with friends and I’m wanting my special snowflake to be a duelist type character. Is a rule/wargear that lets him always hit on 3+ to good? Was thinking 25pts. Lord knows 5th ed wolves getting it for 10 was kinda dumb.
For 2nd edition heresy, if it matters. Each player gets one gimmick to add to their warlord. Along with standard fair.
Also, anybody got the 2.0 legacies pdf?

>>97461119
I figured the 3 attacks (the +1/-1 offset by WE vs Chainfist) each on 5 models at S10 should be good against a lot of vehicles.

But, then again, I'm paying almost 600 for the 5 guys + chainfists + land Raider.
Fluffy? I think so
Effective? No, I'm probably better off with three Vindicators or even a Kratos + other stuff.

>>97461119
DESU i think them going "LOL chain fist is 1 attack" was a fucking mistake.

>>97461166
Same, but -1A is easier to implement than -1 offensive WS. I don't know how else they'd implement chainfists being more cumbersome than power fists.
Because the goal was to make chainfists, thunder hammers and power fists be equivalent to one another, so they gotta be priced the same

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I was bored so now everyone gets to suffer from this HH2 pic. I also added the 40k gal and greyfax that everyone and their grandma uses for kitbashing SOS.

>>97461121
i think it's fine. it's not as good as hatred or a +1 WS. will you give him a master crafted weapon ?

>>97461166
I don't think it's chain fists that are bad, it's just that there's exactly 3 AVs for them to target: av10, which both power fists and chainfists can demolish twice over but chainfists are slightly worse against, AV11-12, which is rarer and chainfists have advantage over but again, for every vehicle with it power fists can also just barely do the job, and AV14, where power fists do nothing while chainfists tear it apart. The problem is when you bring in non-vehicle profiles, power fists can hold their own while chainfists are severely crippled because they'll wound on about the same number. Personally, all I would do is tweak the shred on chainfists to 5+ and leave it alone, so it remains the anti big thing specialist and becomes more effective against dreadnoughts, daemons, automata, and tough characters. Though I guess then you risk Jo schmo master sergeant terminator chosen champion with a chainfist actually killing weaker primarchs with a potentially D4 lucky finishing blows...

>>97461257
>Though I guess then you risk Jo schmo master sergeant terminator chosen champion with a chainfist actually killing weaker primarchs with a potentially D4 lucky finishing blows...
salamanders can already do that, it'll be fine

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>>97460438
>Thread question:
>Have you forgotten about Knights Errant?
Never

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speaking of salamanders, are they the most overtuned legion in this edition ? they have :
>best legion trait
>very good reaction
very good armory
>good special prime
>firedrakes are good, pyroclasts are good
>vulkan's a killing machine
>great legacy unit (sanctifiers are one of 3 infantry units across all 18 legions to be ws5 outside of retinue/elite)
>passable gambit
>good auxiliary detachment

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>>97461257
>D4 lucky finishing blows

>>97461353
>>firedrakes are good
I think they are okay. Don't they die to thunder hammers just as good as everyone else?

>>97461450
thanks to the legion trait they don't by a small margin. dark gods help you if you charge into one though, ws6 s8 a4 is very very nasty

>>97461500
Oh right, their trait. Wait, WS6? A4? It says WS5 A2(+1) throooone keep me, Selfless Burden gives them all of that and more. And it can't be denied by the setup move. Wew

>>97461546
vulkan on selfless burden might be the only primarch able to beat horus ascended in a duel

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>>97460745
>Post models!
Just finished up a rotor cannon squad for my World Eaters. I was planning on running them in 2nd ed, but never really got around to it. Are they still worthwhile in 3rd?

>>97461254
Dunno yet. I'd be stupid to not grab a paragon blade or great frost blade, but I do enjoy flavor.
Still in the planning phase tho. Gotta see what everyone agrees on for conversion limits. Might be able to grab something spicy.

>>97461591
Ehh, they're good but in different ways. On one hand their status applying ability isn't as strong, but it's easier to apply since it just needs to hit, not do an unssved wound, and it'll still help your weater brethren stay safe by forcing snap shots. I'd try and run the unit as 2 units if 5 if you can, so you can try and suppress 2 different units each shooting phase. Even better if you can get a Herald in to apply fear to the enemy and make them test suppress on a 5 or less.

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>>97461591
Rules wise they're kinda underwhelming for the points investment. Damage output is low and the status they (might) inflict is situational. Cool factor is high though, especially for ZM.

I agree with anon >>97461735, two squads of 5 seems like a smart play if you want to use them.

I WANNA FIGHT TITANS SO FUCKING BAD BUT I CAN'T BECAUSE I'M SICK! SICK! SICK FROM NOT PLAYING TITANICUS!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>97460438
I like that you can field an entire KE army now just by giving them the KE Trait even though it doesn't do anything.

>>97460438
>TQ
They were always the most boring bit of the HH and I hate Garro's character so I hope I can forget them someday.

>>97461916
What, which book has the KE trait?

>>97462263
How can you hate Garro he snitched on Horus rebelling to Dorn when he ran from Istvaan III, he is a hero just like Loken and Saul Tarvitz.

>>97461353
what if the guns were swapped with phosphex guns as a prank haha

>>97461249
The SoS kitbashing guy was cool, really liked his dark eldar guns into needler wepons kitbash.

>>97462291
NTA, but under garro in legacies it says you can pick knights errant as your legiones astartes type, it just won't confer anything

>>97462309
Wow so lazy just play blackshield rules instead

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Has anyone got a high quality scan of the Aeronautica Imperialis Age of Darkness rulebook? The one online is poopoo and lacks the lore/pictures which I'm also interested in.
TIA anons <3

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>>97460745
>the tech thrall mines
I am doing everything in my power to put this off too, I feel you

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does anyone have FAQ for HH2 liber imperium? hell, OP doesn't even have HH2 pdfs. rip me.

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>got sick for the first time in over a year
>can barely lift a towel, let alone get out of bed
Tell me something cool or interesting about the Horus Heresy, my head feels like it's about to explode.

>>97462479
Somebody actually saved my shitty meme image, kek.

Personally think it's fascinating that certain things (co)created by traitor primarchs remain in use within the Imperium into the grim darkness of the far future, like Magnus' Librarian project or the terminator mounted cyclone missile launchers invented by Perturabo.

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ENTER

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>>97462471
https://litter.catbox.moe/tvy02eug5red09g8.pdf

>>97462638
oh yes

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3d print files for terminator thunder hammers?
either links to files or liks to recommended stuff on cults etc

I asked a few weeks ago I think

>>97462479
>Tell me something cool or interesting about the Horus Heresy
The WebWay War was so intense and the WebWay so large that the Custodes and their Imperial allies were able to employ aircraft and fought an air war inside the tunnels in support of the forces on the ground.
I think that's quite cool.

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>>97462750
love you, pauldron anon. do you by any chance have other HH2 FAQs?

>>97462753
What kind of Terminators are we talking about? NuCata have hands the same size as regular marines.

>>97462782
oh lucky you i think catbox came back to life


The Siege of Cthonia
https://files.catbox.moe/oy47n5.pdf

The Battle for Beta Garmon
https://files.catbox.moe/gxbtoh.pdf

The Martian Civil War
https://files.catbox.moe/g24nbs.pdf

Exemplary Battles of the Age of Darkness - Volume One
https://files.catbox.moe/1m47l1.pdf

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Age of Darkness 2.0
https://files.catbox.moe/83l85x.pdf

Liber Astartes 2.0
https://files.catbox.moe/rmkhkp.pdf

Liber Hereticus 2.0
https://files.catbox.moe/nanep4.pdf

Liber Imperium 2.0
https://files.catbox.moe/m8vcwm.pdf

Liber Mechanicum 2.0
https://files.catbox.moe/pgvnn6.pdf

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Legacies - Militia Armylist
https://files.catbox.moe/rynxib.pdf

Legacies - Daemons of the Ruinstorm Army List
https://files.catbox.moe/9c81ie.pdf

Legacies - Legiones Astartes
https://files.catbox.moe/ndfw4q.pdf

Legacies - Mechanicum
https://files.catbox.moe/6yg76b.pdf

Legacies - Solar Auxilia
https://files.catbox.moe/9ennd2.pdf

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FAQ - AoD Rulebook
https://files.catbox.moe/08emwo.pdf

FAQ - Liber Astartes
https://files.catbox.moe/351lx9.pdf

FAQ - Liber Hereticus
https://files.catbox.moe/0xfn5j.pdf

FAQ - Liber Imperium
https://files.catbox.moe/5q5500.pdf

FAQ - Liber Mechanicum
https://files.catbox.moe/p41byf.pdf

FAQ - Siege of Cthonia
https://files.catbox.moe/dkaxxu.pdf

FAQ - Exemplary Battles Vol.1
https://files.catbox.moe/4c37be.pdf

BETRAYAL
https://files.catbox.moe/ndkvi4.pdf

MASSACRE
https://files.catbox.moe/dq2y60.pdf

EXTERMINATION
https://files.catbox.moe/7vrcpv.pdf

CONQUEST
https://files.catbox.moe/e6594d.pdf

TEMPEST
https://files.catbox.moe/13sy18.pdf

RETRIBUTION
https://files.catbox.moe/xvu3lp.pdf

INFERNO
https://files.catbox.moe/a4oz26.pdf

MALEVOLENCE
https://files.catbox.moe/p07rj7.pdf

CRUSADE
https://files.catbox.moe/0jjys1.pdf

>>97462795
Not even just regular marines, they got the same tiny ass girl hands as the nu-marks.

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>>97462800
Time to immortalize HH2 by redownloading everything into 1 neat folder. You have my eternal gratitude, pauldron aficionado.

Exemplary Battles - Updated Units for HH2.0
https://files.catbox.moe/5zejhy.pdf

The Axandria IV Incident (TSons)
https://files.catbox.moe/jlf2rh.pdf

The Battle of Nyrcon City - Visions in the Flames (Sal-AL)
https://files.catbox.moe/4ew95j.pdf

The Depths of Tredecimmia (Dark Mech)
https://files.catbox.moe/4xq09m.pdf

The Burning of Ohmn-Mat (Bound Daemons)
https://files.catbox.moe/tngspq.pdf

The Battle of Trisolian - Vengeful Spirit (SW-SoH)
https://files.catbox.moe/e7se1q.pdf

The Death of Canopus (BA-IH)
https://files.catbox.moe/zist64.pdf

The Battle for Felweather Keep (Chaos Knights)
https://files.catbox.moe/te1m74.pdf

The Scouring of Gilden's Star (WB)
https://files.catbox.moe/pgrqoz.pdf

Assault on Castrum Velx (BA)
https://files.catbox.moe/h0l9ok.pdf

Liberation of Constanix II (Militia)
https://files.catbox.moe/p9789l.pdf

The Breaking of the Perfect Fortress (RG)/(1.0)
https://files.catbox.moe/s75z93.pdf

The Battle of Pluto - Hydra's Devastation (IF)/(1.0)
https://files.catbox.moe/j1ldzd.pdf

The Battle for Kalium Gate (WS-EC)/(1.0)
https://files.catbox.moe/q06ua2.pdf

The Battle of Perditus - Umbral-51 (DG-DA)/(1.0)
https://files.catbox.moe/kje2zr.pdf

>>97462795
standard terminator hands, I got lernaens that need some hammers

Anyone here used Tamiya X-13 to paint Alpha Legion?
How does it compare to using the Tamiya Clear Green and Blue mix Forge World seems to have used?

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anyone know the source of these heads? I found them on etsy and they're great (I don't want to buy the full kit, just sprinkle these heads throughout my army) and I don't wanna pay what the print shop thats listing them is offering.

>>97462995
You mean you want the STL files? Might have full files for AL headhunters somewhere, would that help?

>>97462753
https://files.catbox.moe/awjp9i.stl

>>97463046
>full files for AL headhunters
that would be amazing yeah. is there a link to them you can send here?

>>97463063
That's some good dolphin pron

>>97463063
Someone post a pic of what this is. Otherwise I can post the STL from Wilph/Diverging Realms for his Cataphractii once I get home.

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>>97463071
>>97463080

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>>97463080
It's a hammer.

>>97463086
>>97463087
by our powers combined we captured both pertinent main faces for display !
i made a few instances of it for one of my proonting projects and find it pretty decent

>>97463080
can you post it anyway when you can? i'd like some hammers with alternate hand poses, like one holding it downward a bit

will definitely be using >>97463063 for characters (e.g my heralds) though

>>97461779
Rotors are good as a situational thing you add to units like DG/UM inductii or tactical vets, since you just need A hit and they have 3 shots base.

>>97463069
Here's the files ZIP https://gofile.io/d/KP2Iia

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assembled some sanctifiers

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>>97462821
These are so much fun.
I know it's a tall order, but did anyone happen to screencap that creative little idea session we had a while ago when we made up a bunch of new units?

>>97462796
Anon was a friend, who actualy helped others this time. For free too. I kneel.

>>97463458
Are plasma canons mounted on infantry any good in 3ed? I had a friend who used them, and MM on his DG in 2.0, but he quit the game.

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>>97462796
>>97463576
about time this general got an adaptation of this may may

>>97463619
nothing mounted on infantry is good in 3ed except for thunder hammers and terminator armor mounted on WS5 infantry.

>>97463619
A single plasma cannon in a unit not so much, but once you get 4+ plasma cannons in a single unit they begin to get scary amounts of hits that will kill infantry through sheer number of saves alone, not even considering the Breaching. A HSS of 5 with plasma cannons can clean up a tactical squad in one shooting phase if two or three stand just a little to close to each other, seen it happen many times. Blast weapons are just not cool with how accurate they've become this edition.

>>97463658
man. and here I hoped to have a DA firewing army based around Despoilers, Assault space marines and jump pack companions.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/g6knaelp/breach-and-clear-with-the-warhammer-community-teams-dedicated-horus-heresy-door-kickers/

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>>97463822
>best piece is the poorly painted EC Leviathan
Grim. Dark, even.

>>97463822
Sometimes I look at rules, releases and articles by GW and I think that they either do not play their own games and/or they think that their player base is people who are buying only the last 2-3 editions current plastics, build the way they are shown on the box with some sort of "narrative", but they never turn the narrative in to actual rules. So if you do build you cool all terminators army, you get to play vs the regular armies and lose over and over again, till you build the same army everyone else plays.

I just don't know. Maybe it is just me being stupid or it is a gigantic cultural difference.
It is like here are breachers, they are cool. And I am like, and where am I going to use them when I have to spam line 3 tacticals and have no slots for line 1-2 infantry. And GW gives articles, but they write them as if somehow lore was mixing up rules. They resilient and powerful, but I am running the math and they are not (especialy vs the extra point cost comparing to tacticals).

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>>97463822
CML at home:

>>97463843
maybe it is one of those "You can play/paint you army, even if you aren't good at painting" advertisment. Which I guess can work, if you just collect and keep the models at home. But everyone knows that you can be Giraldez, and people will call your stuff shit, and people at the store will not play you, if your IF have the wrong shade of yellow. But GW can't tell their buyers that. You need to learn that yourself.

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>>97463822
I like this one.

>>97463822
>>97463843
That's rough.
Also, ECs in purple metallic finish sounds neat theoretically but always looks kind of ass, doesn't it?

>>97463847
GW famously has (or had) an extremely casual/fluffy internal meta. Its not unbelievable that people there would play all terminator armies.

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>>97463863
I prefer ZML

They are gonna be able to milk this article series for years at this rate.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/t2ubdg6k/pages-from-the-black-books-night-lords-at-thramas/

>>97463458
The plasma cannon looks like a big fat throbbing cock wow

>>97464099
No it doesn't you're just gay and cock addled.

>>97463847
Well considering you're probably a cheating polish subhuman if you think tacticals have line 3, your experience is not representative of the average heresy player

>>97463197
There you go Anons.

https : // we . tl / t-RFRv4cxR8O

I was lazy and put more than just Cataphractii. It's all Wilph though.

If anyone else has his other stuff, I'd love to get it too. Thanks!

>>97464212
Honestly don't understand why polish anon bothers posting here, it always sounds like they play some weird version of warhammer form an alternate even more doomed timeline over there, which has nothing in common with what the rest of the world is playing.

>>97464290
he's running the math

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>>97463822
these are good, simple scheme that really plays into the greco-roman legion theme well

>>97464331
Credit where credit is due, the new plastic breacher shields look pretty good. Though this could be due to GW having lowered my expectations of HH infantry designs substantially.

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>>97462965
Since nobody anwsered I went ahead and tried it on a test model.
Middle is pure Akhelian Green over a preshaded silver metallic model(nuln oil then drybrush).
Left is the same but with a X-13 zenithal.
Right is one of my current method, Akhelian Green with Contrast Medium 1:1 over Leadbelcher with Runefang Steel zenithal.

I like the effect a lot, but maybe worth going over it with Akhelian Green again to make it more... green.

>>97464343
the hands being separate from the arms actually makes them a straight upgrade, since they can be used on other or even old armours too. It's not easy, but it's possible. The new boarding shields are actually quite good.

>>97464725
Yeah, the only downside is that you don't get more than 1 graviton gun and 1 lascutter per 10 shields. Thankfully I still got some of those in resin to build a proper veteran breacher squad.

>>97464744
Well, I don't much care for the new bolters, but that's by the by. I also don't care for the grav gun being redesigned purely to make it easier to do in one part. The Lascutter looks okay?

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>>97463923
Somehow I think the legs on that dread are sufficient, unlike the Castraferrum's? Why? It's a minimal amount of femur and yet that's enough. Castraferrums simply have no legs at all mang

>>97464343
>the new plastic breacher shields look pretty good.

I will be charitable and assume you are legally blind.

>>97464873
Because the leviathans are rescaled castaferrums retard kun, this was just bsck in the era where GW wasn't so brazen as to rescale your army every 10 years and say fuck you this is the new standard time to rebuy goyim

>>97464233
thanks, is there a timer on it or anything? i'll have a look when I get home

>>97464878
What issue do you have with them?

>>97464878
What's your problem with them exactly? Beyond /hhg/'s standard of "New bad old good"

>>97464926
You misspelled
>Beyond the objectively and unassailably correct standard of "New bad old good"
there bud.

>>97464878
I think the shields are the least "offensive". The new helmets are dogwater.

>>97464923
A full day normally.

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>>97464899
>leviathans are rescaled castaferrums

>>97465036
And there you see the problem: every subsequent attempt to "fix" the castaferrum has to avoid not being the leviathan again. It'd be like if evolution was made by narcissists who really tried to avoid carcinization so they could be original

>>97465059
Fat contemptor is still just a fat contemptor.

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>>97462800
Man, those bring me back.

>>97464963
Still waiting on an actual answer.

>>97465106
Why couldn't stuff like this have comenout when I actually had disposable income?

Fuck the new cataphractii kit but that double sided power axe is pure sex.

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I'm close to finishing this Lascannon HSS, just needs some grime and or streajs to make it pop, I think.

>>97465688
I dunno, Anon, it looks pretty good as is.

>>97465036
How dare you

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>>97463938
>white scars got a leviathan sculpt
>death guard didn't

>>97465696
Feels like it could something to elevate it.
Maybe a pin wash with a brown oil paint?

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Just found out Saturn centurions are a thing, will be chilling with a backline tactical squad

>>97465837
>Beautiful base
>Grey model
What?

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>>97465880
Thats colourless texture paste, I haven't primed him yet. I added the rocks to add more texture

>>97465911
Oh thats not supposed to be rocky snow? Your going to paint it as something else I assume?

>>97466059
Yeah, i added the rocks for more varied texture, either going to be greyish mountains with grass or a more deserty looj

>>97465837
i have a similar plan to make disintegrator vet squad good by sticking a thousand son saturnine centurion inside

Is this list WAAC/oppressive? If so, what elements would you suggest cutting out as the particularly OP elements?

Praetor: jump pack, headsmans axe, shotgun, melta bomb
Centurion: axe, combi grav
Centurion in Terminator Armour: axe, volkite charger, atramentar prime
Vigilator

3x 10 man tac squad + vox (one malefic)
2x Havoc/Dozer blade rhinoes

2x 2 Gravis Bolter Rapiers
2x 2 Laser destroyer rapiers

Kratos Assault Tank, meltagun, lascannons, locus, dozerblade

Contekar Terminator Squad: 3 flamers, 2 volkite, master sgt with escaton claw
Seeker Squad: 5 seekers
Veteran Tactical Squad: sgt with thunder hammer, 8 volkites, flamer, rotor cannon

Terror Squad: master sgt with thunder hammer, 7 chainglaives, flamer, rotor canon
Night Raptor Squad: 5 hammers, 5 dual claws, flamer

How do you guys get your spray paint mixture to be the same every time? I swear my airbrush produces a slightly different color every time I use it.

>>97466219
I don't think it's OP but I think you fell for the vanguard is bad meme and you're going to crumble to literally any army with even just like assault marines. Your whole army is literally just some marine bodies, a Kratos, and a unit of contenkar and that's it

>>97466398
Yea, its not a really durable list, nothing outside the kratos can take a punch.

But its a fair few marine bodies, and the vets/terror squad should be able to do that "mid range brawling" with the likes of assault marines and despoilers.

>>97466418
And anyways, the weaknesses of the list (which im sure exist) dont really interest me, im more concerned with whether its OP and something I shouldnt take to casual games.

I had someone complain that it felt like they didnt get to play the game against me, and I want to know if thats due to the list or simply the way I play (premeasuring and so on)

>>97466254
Well, if you're mixing different paints then make sure to get the mix exactly the same each time, same as if you had been using a brush.
If not (or on top of that) it sounds like you're either getting not-quite-good-enough opacity so the appearance changes with the exact opacity and whatever colour is underneath, or you have a paint that changes a bit as it dries and you keep comparing the previously applied paint to the not-yet-dry paint you just applied. Or both.

>>97466454
>then make sure to get the mix exactly the same each time
Thats the bit I cant really figure out. How do you get the EXACT mixture the same?

>>97466469
NTA, but I use dropper bottles

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>>97466219
And the list in action. I felt like my opponent had a pretty nasty army himself (WB malefics supported by SA armored collumn with some mechanicum priests to buff/heal).
we misread the mission we were playing so raptors scored 16pts over two turns, but thats besides the point

>>97466500
So do you just pour the paint from the normal bottle into generic empty plastic dropper bottles, and then that gives you a more accurate level of control?

Any sign of a Ruin of the Salamanders scan?

>>97466508
>and then that gives you a more accurate level of control?
Yeah? I can control exactly how many drops of paint I mix in. How do you think chemists do jt?

>>97466538
Fair enough. Should have probably done this before I ended up with several shades of blue on my models, but better late than never.

The more I think about it, the funnier it gets that Grulgor the Meathead seems to have become a daemon prince some ten thousand years (and counting) before Typhon, despite not really trying for it.

>>97466600
More like a possessed, in which case the gal vorbak have him beat.

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>>97460438
My "tartaros" Siege terminators

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>>97466779
>>97466774

>>97466774
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>>97466784
Very cool. Really nice bases. You're the Anon with the super pretty Marduke, right?
I'm thinking about getting a couple extra tartaros siege guys but the bits are just too expensive.

>>97466774
>>97466779
>>97466784
Dark Angels? Those look absolutely beautiful.

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But those aren't Tartaros terminators at all you fucker

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>>97466774
nice dark angels, way prettier than mine
it's been ages since i painted one

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>>97466814
Yep! thats me i think, this is my more duck.
>>97466816
Thank you fren.
>>97466852
Yours look very handsome anon, i think you need need to break up the armor some, its why i use a reses wash of Burnt umbra for dirt and mud, makes panels stand out

The next product is to make my Redloss even though he is gone x.x

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>>97466864
yeah pinwashing is a gamechanger, but i can't work for shit with black armors, i prefer red

>>97466864
>>97466852
Beautiful work, very good stuff. You two have inspired me to dip my toes into 30k. I was considering it vaguely, but now I want to take my OC Dangles successor chapter who I wrote an autistic link to the Heresy in their fluff and make their 30k incarnation.

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>>97465837
>Saturn centurions
It's good that they exist, but it's criminal they don't allow a unit to teleport. Saturnine Centurions need to be attached to a Saturnine Praetor to teleport.
It's outrageous. It's unfair. Give termie Teleports as a Prime

>>97466779
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>>97466774
>"tartaros" Siege
Cataphractii Termies yearn for full heavy siege

>>97466826
The point is they should exist

>>97463847
You would be painfully surprised at how often devs dont actually play their own games

>>97467002
probably about 2% of GW's sales are to 'serious gamerz' so it makes sense they don't have any care if the game is actually balanced or good.

All they care about is that the models and rules are at a level that someone who doesn't know they suck will give them a try. Once you've spent $150 on rulebooks and $500 on minis to play your first game, you can't get your money refunded even if the game blows donkey cock. Hell, GW LOVES it when you buy an army for $1000 then they make it unfun, nerfed, uncompetitive and torture to play, because there's like a50% chance the plastic addict won't quit the hobby but instead will react by picking up a 2nd $1000 point army purchase or a 3rd one, saying "GW you really fucked up on tyranids!!! I'll buy an ork army and a space marine army to have a good time!"

>>97467053
Really? I had always figured they made an overwhelming majority of their cash off of whales/return customers

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>>97463930
metallic EC can look incredible but it needs to be a deep and dark purple
that levi is fucking certifiably not it even without the finger painting

>>97467053
>>97467161
At that point if it was really 2% or even sub 20% (Which i dont htink it is i think you are vastly underestimating it, i think its more like 80% are here for the game, and of that 80 like 20% are TFG level of try hards) You would think GW would just fucking outsource their rules to someone that can actually write.

>>97467185
you just don't know shit, they themselves have said more than 70-80% build and paint things without playing.
Of the people who even play at all, 90% of them will be the ones who play maybe one game a month at most. So yes, 2% is an entirely realistic number.

>>97467227
Ok sure but how many of those 70-80% are repeat customers?
How many of the repeat customers are ones actually playing the game.

I cant even count the number of times i have seen fly by night customers come into a store, drop like 500 bucks on the hobby, be super jazzed about it, then never fucking touch that shit ever again.

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>>97466219
>3x 10 man tac squad + vox
>(one malefic)

>>97460438
>my authentic overpriced angron's gorechild snapped off
>spent days combing my office for it with no luck
>buy a recast angron from DM for a few bucks to get a replacement axe
>it gets here
>his iron halo spikes are all broken off
it doesn't bug me since I was sacrificing the recast for the bit but it really does reinforce that nobody in the 13 years since they started selling angron has received him without his iron halo broken

>>97467383
>How many times must I tell you? I'm no one's lord...
Irl cursed mini

Lads what the fuck has happened to our squinty eyed girl mira... something?
>>97464290
>even more doomed
That's the slavlands for ya.
>t.other long, thin stick of wood or metal, often used standing straight up in the ground to support things

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Got a game of 3.0 in. Iron Hands vs Knights, the big reaver in the back was actually a porphyrion. Won 34-20 but holy hell that Porphyrion was performing summary executions every turn.

>>97467449
Who?

>>97467454
Nice, very cool. Very silly armorcast but I assume those smaller guys are prints?

>>97467454
Did you take on the knights with any infantry or handle them with the vehicles? I want to throw mine against my buddy but he doesn't have enough ranged punch to really stop it and his own knight isn't done yet.

Is running a unit of 5 legion command squad terminators with thunder hammers still considered WAAC in 3ed, the way it was in 2ed?

>>97467736
Thunder Hammers aren't as good against vehicles but are still practically VEQ/TEQ killers. There's far less time for a deathstar to deal enough damage in 3.0 as well, instead you'd be that guy if you were spamming Seekers as DA or AL.

>>97467574
NTA but when you don't bring big expensive vehicles for a porphyrion to blow up it becomes a complete waste of points. Its main weapon is a mere 4 shots now, no longer blast. I always play infantry heavy lists, and it was honestly kind of depressing how meaningless porphyrions were when I played against them.

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>>97463930
here's this one I stole from somewhere long time ago

>>97467372
I had a spare prime slot so it was either that or combat vets. Or interdiction cadre but that on 10 tacticals seems a waste.

>>97467974
mk II my beloved

>>97467383
>his iron halo spikes are all broken off.
It's like pottery, as Angron is broken in mind and spirit. No respite for Angron the slave.

>>97467736
The gap between thunder hammers and everything else is lower, and there's more ws5 ap2/thunder hammers out there now. Plus the game js quite scoring heavy.

So no, I don't think so.

>>97464189
You deny reality.

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>All I ever wanted was to die with frends

>>97468066
truly the best primarch

>>97468063
>>97464099
My brother in autism you need to lower your porn consumption.

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What was the in universe justification for solar auxilia using power axes?

>>97463822
While the pooling on the ivory is probably just Reikland Fleshshade, the DG termies really got that look where using contrast paints is seemingly too obvious.

>>97468084
Noted, but I cannot unsee it. I am sorry for my pervert thoughts. I am not gay tho.

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>>97468096
They're ceremonial.

>>97468096
Cause they fight in zone mortalis confined space corridors where melee is unavoidable. Also big axe is cool.

>>97468125
>Sees cocks everywhere
>"I am not gay tho"
Sure buddy. Sure.

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>>97467383
DM angron is 30 burger bucks while ALG bit is 3 bucks. quality, however, is questionable as ALG stuff is usually 9/10 or 10/10 irl while pics are... dubious for some reason. meanwhile WTG is WYSIWYG (most of old resin stuff is shite). I find it odd that DM angron had any flaws because I find DM to be the best along with TPC. do you have pics of the poor ron's halo?

>>97468134
>>97468135
Thanks guys.
>big axe cool
Did the creator of the solar auxilia ever confirm that the logh rosenritter’s axes played a role in inspiration on the atom sized chance they may have?

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>>97468096
I always viewed them as firefighter's axes for tearing down doors during boarding. see: >>97468135
>>97468160
dunno, but you reminded me to watch best animu ever. you have my thanks.

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>>97468160
Who knows. I always assumed they were like firemen's axes for chopping down bulkheads, even though lascutters, meltaguns and even eviscerators (in their chainsaw style, rather than chainsword) would be infinitely more effective. Sometimes aesthetic autism takes over.

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>>97468174
>best animu ever
It is why I like Germany too.
If you can read in Japanese the latest logh manga adaptation by Fujisaki Ryu is a fun read.
It isn’t a perfect adaptation but I felt what needed to stay faithful stayed faithful like the ship designs. What changed I felt didn’t really deviate too much.
And some parts are over the top in what I found to be a good way like pic related.
Scanlators for mangadex seem to have sadly dropped it.
>pic related
>>97468179
I think you’re right about aesthetic autism though.
In this instance it works.

>>97468160
>ogh rosenritter’s axes

they look more like boarding axes, which are basically tomahawks

>>97468096
more like a firefighter's axe, breaching sections that are closed off (without getting vibration injuries from using a chainfist)

the front blade is kind of klingon-y

>>97468153
A cock is a normal part of the male anatomy, just ask Fabius.

>>97468179
>I always assumed they were like firemen's axes for chopping down bulkheads
Yes this makes sense also

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>>97468325
>without getting vibration injuries from using a chainfist
Is this said somewhere?

>>97468350
Even if it's not described in-universe, there's numerous examples in the real world of people working extensively with heavy powered tools developing nerve damage.

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>>97467974
knew I'd seen one somewhere

everything old is new again

>>97467454
>armorcast Reaver
VGH

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>>97468361
What are the health consequences of swinging an axe at a metal wall for prolonged periods of time? Or just pulling the trigger on a meltagun/lascutter?

>>97468391
Repetitive strain injury at worst. Lascutters and meltaguns not having recoil also reduces the possibility of health consequences from use.

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>>97468336
I personally thought it was a reference to napolionic sappers.

>>97468350
anon, in most civilised countries women have a ban on working with stuff like jack hammers or mining drill, because it is extremly detrimental to health of even men. And neither one of those are used to cut bulkheads. Even if you reinforced the muscles and armour, the vibration would screw your brain, it would be like being slowly being KOed every second. And the the damage to the wrist, elbow and shoulder joint on the "chainfist" arm would be brutal. Probably kin to working with heavy duty tools for years condensed in to a few seconds.

>>97468441
>in most civilised countries women have a ban on working with stuff like jack hammers or mining drill

What happened to emancipation? Get those women into the mines, they are demanding equality.

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Did Mezoa ever get a canon colour scheme? Can't seem to find one.

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>>97468441
>sorry, girls, health and safety gone mad has banned us from using highly effective metal cutting tools due to potential vibration damage
>here, use this axe in stead to chop at the metal until you're through

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>>97468462
No.
However, we know they adopted flames and fire as part of the iconography due to their volcanic homeworld and by the time of 40k both their moons are used to train up Tempestus Scions known as the Lambdan Lions. The Lions often serve alongside side or directly under the priests of Mezoa.
If I were painting Mezoa I'd combine the colours of the Lambdan Lions with the colours of fire and ash. Something like red or orange armour and black/dark grey cloth and silver trim.

>>97468471
NTA but there's probably reasons nor related to health and safety as to why SA don't have chainfists. Mind you, not even space marines in power armour can use a chainfist, only marines wearing terminator armour can. There could be some sort of power demand or leverage related reason for it, though the in-universe explanation seems to be that chainfists are so slow and cumbersome that you will get hit before getting a chance to connect with a swing. Wearing terminator armour would reduce the chance of getting killed before ever getting a chance to land an attack.

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>>97468462
not directly, but being founded from Lucius you'd expect a similar scheme

there are the Lambdan Lions, based in orbit of Mezoa, who have... basically the Lucian scheme

>>97468496
>>97468483
holy shit i need to refresh the thread more often

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>>97468488
Navy Breachers get chainfists: >>97468350
Then we got eviscerators, which are noted for being able to cut walls and tanks. We see plenty of armoured and unarmoured people using them.

>>97468506
>Eviscerators
Not the same thing. Also don't exist in 30k.

>>97468496
>>97468483
Thanks for the help anons! I'll give it some thought, combining fire and ash, Lucius' colour scheme and the colours of the Lions into 1 scheme won't be easy but I'll make it work.

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With these new plastic Custodians releasing, it'd be FUCKING KINO if GW released plastic Ruinstorm Daemons and a campaign supplement focused on the Webway War. It's a part of the setting that is on its knee begging desperately for more lore.

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>>97468556
Grav-rhinos when?

>>97468581
Just take a rhinp and remove its wheels
bam done

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>>97468588
Why, when more accurate options exist?

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So Cyclothrathine has a fairly "standard" Dark Mechanicum colour scheme then? I'm not missing something makes them look more unique?

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>>97468595
DELETE THIS ABOMINATION

>>97468453
emancipation does not cover drills, jack hammers and stuff like military draft.

>>97468648
Funny how that works eh?

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>>97468096
Because it's cool.

>>97468556
>campaign supplement focused on the Webway War.
BASED.
BASED.
BASED.
BASED.
BASED.
BASED.

>>97468656
I don't know. I generaly find nothing about working in construction funny. Aside for maybe seeing new guys try it. But that is more a new guy thing, then a construction thing. And there is definity nothing fun about being a miner.

>>97468673
looks wierd though. An ax should always come with a build in musket. And by the time you do that you may as well just get a bardiche. maybe the love for axes is one of those cultural things, that come from being nations that live from the sea, instead being land locked like normal regular people.

>>97468070
Truly.

>>97468350
Temu solar aux

>>97468436
Maybe, now I want to play Mount and Blade Napoleonic Wars but sadly the servers died a while back.

>>97468556
Against the troonstodes the daemons are the heroes.

>>97468876
(You)

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Did anyone here actually get the new Cataphractii? I was wondering if the helmets or heads would fit on a regular marine body?

>>97468731
Tbh jackhammers are fun its like a wand of remove stone strapped to a metal dildo.

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>First time trying disintegrator cannons on a saturnine dreadnought
>Turn one it kill two saturnine terminators, pretty good
>Turn two it fails to land a single penetrating hit trying to shoot a vehicle, suffers three overload hits and almost kills itself
Disintegrator cannons would be pretty alright if only Overload wasn't so devastating, lol. Very entertaining loadout for a saturnine dreadnought though, will field it again.

>>97469101
Yeah they would be good if they were not so shit.

>>97469101
That is a sick DA dread. Yours? The HH colour scheme goes insanely hard.

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Which Terminator armor is your favorite?

>>97469147
Indomitus.
Cataphracti is just weird, saturnine is laughably bad designwise and tartaros is just okay I guess.

>>97469144
Yes. The black contrasts very nice with the bone, red and green spot colours, and some checker patterns make it more interesting too.

>>97469147
I think Tartaros might be my favourite, though it's not super clear cut.
Indo and Cataphractii are both really good, though I can't say I care for their redesigns.
Old Saturnine (Or Nocturne or Unidentified Terminator Armour) I'm vaguely fond of. New Saturnine I dislike with a passion.

>>97469147
They all have their charm, but Indomitus has to be my favourite.

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>>97469147
I place Cataphractii and Indomitus on the same level for different reasons. I like the idea of OG Saturnine, but GW fucked it like always with their 30k Centurion suit. Tartaros is just an egg. Wish we got the 3rd RT terminator with the beetle back and built in launcher, but I fear GW's just gonna make another abortion of it, so I'm fine.

>>97469147
old catas

>>97469147
Red butchers hands down but I don't play WE so I guess gorgons are cool.

>>97469021
>if the helmets or heads would fit on a regular marine

They are full-sized heads with a hemisphere connection, but they appear to be a tad narrower than a MkII helmet. There's five for each sprue with three bodies.

>>97467464
Yup, they’re the epic guys scaled up. Really fun models.

>>97467574
The only infantry that dealt with knights were my Morlocks, they charged into one that arrived via outflank. Like 2.0 basic bolter boys can put a dent in them but I’d only do it as last resort cleanup. Tanks and the Levi were definitely on knight and armiger duty, with the Levi alone cleaving through both the Maegera and Questoris both getting 1 tapped by it in Melee. Very lucky rolls there though.

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More pictures of catas with paint on them

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/riua1n5m/the-warhammer-the-horus-heresy-team-goes-heavy-on-cataphractii-terminators/

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>>97469619

>>97469619
>>97469623
These are alright. I still don't love the new Cataphractii, but I'll assemble them if I get them for free.

>>97469619
>pics in the article are weirdly small
This vexes me.

>>97469101
But that's the fun of it, it's like gambling.

>>97469623
>>97469619
It really is just the power fists that bother me. Well, that and the enshittification to drop 10 guys with room for power fists, chainfists, and lightning claws to 6 guys with only room for one of power fists or power weapons.

>>97469619
It seems a little unusual that despite most of these showing off both kits, none of them seemingly went with mixing the default loadouts, like maul + combi-bolter.

>>97469619
>four different IW color schemes
>zero NL
every fucking time

>>97469840
Why would you pick cataphracti terminators as NL player ?

>>97469880
I saw a really cool cataphrachtii praetor in NL colors online once. Also theres an atramentar prime benefit for them.

>>97469880
>why would you pick a NL player
FTFY

>>97469900
To throw him.

>>97469619
>>97469623
Damn GW already desperate trying to force nu-catas onto people, can't remember any of the other new HH kits being pushed this much.

>>97470059
While I agree they're pretty trash, they did this with a bunch of new stuff. Assault Squads, New Tacticals, the Thallax and Castellax when they dropped, Saturnine...

>>97470059
No, a community article for warcomm painters, then content creator painters, is standard for every HH release. The only thing getting pushed is people trying to rage bait by posting nucata so people can get angry snout how they're worse again

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>>97469880
Because the are magnificent

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And about those massive online masturbation that old Cataphractii are too small and that the new are good because are bigger, literally just put a little bit of green stuff between legs and torso and it's done. Ten times better than new shit cata

>>97470127
Oh fuck, now I see that I didn't drilled the barrels for the middle one. Fml

>>97470108
>>97470127
God the terror squad heads are perfection. Literally work for everything.

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>>97469619
Those are better paintjobs but they still don't register as terminator armor to me.

>>97470127
The new are bad because they didn't make them any bigger, and the exact reason why they took like ass is the same reason why doing the plasticard waist bump also looks like ass, it doesn't make them any bulkier just stretches them out. Just buy tortuga and save everyone the trouble.

>>97470195
It's the helmets, they're too high up and have that silly comb that the new breachers have. The torso chest piece is also very small and angled oddly. The power fist is also small.

>>97470136
going to skin you alive for that one, you criminal fuck

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>>97469147
too old to say anything but Indo

but as much as I like where it's ended up and the journey it took getting there? still got a thing for the original Space Hulk termies, even the librarians from Deathwing that looked closer to what we ended up with in plastic, despite being around at the same time as the old metal lads

it's the Saturnine-style long shoulders I think, there's just something really satisfying about them, plus those clip-on heavy flamers have liiterally never been bettered as a heavy flamer design, they need detailing sure but they're pure sex, even the Tartaros heavy flamer doesn't come close

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>>97468731
those anime ones are straight up boarding axes like old timey sailors all had

you know, in case shit needed a chop to sort it

>>97470195
It is as if someone put cata shoulders on normal power armor

I seem to remember a piece of lore from a book (perhaps the Beast series or on of Ian's books?) in which someone is in or near the palace and can hear the war beyond the Webway gate still being fought well after the end of the Horus Heresy.
Can someone help me find this quote?

>>97470195
They would look good with big heavy weapons carried two handed HSS style.

I mean wasnt cataphracti originally a conversion made with normal marine armor as a base ?

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>>97471077
Yeah, like some kind heavier power armour.

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>>97471171
No, old school conversions were Indomitus with GK heads or the normal Indomitus face cut to a GK head (it was a rather simple job, t. done it myself back in the day) and usually, if not using 3rd party pads, Dreadnought leg armour or Ork shoulder plates to give that Cataphractii look. And, of course, CSM reaper autocannons cleaned up.

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Those new DA helmets would look pretty good on IF guys, and GK if you're going for 40K.

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>>97471319
big shame that he had some sort of schizo crashout regarding the original rendition being updated into a much less sovlful permutation recently atop pulling his power armour stuff from sale
pretty much got what i wanted though

>>97471319
Hideous model but very well painted

>>97471319
I swear to God being stuck between the nu sloppers and UGGGHHH THHICCKKERR 3d sloppers is like standing on a dwindling pillar over an ocean of disgust

Exterminator - FULL PACKAGE STLs.zip
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Exterminator - MAIN PACKAGE - update #1.zip
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Exterminator - MAIN PACKAGE - update #2.zip
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MkV STLs.zip
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fuck you too edo

>>97471410
Eh?

>>97471319
Dude this model looks so fucking aweful, the pain job is great, but holy fuck i dont understand how/why anyone thinks this look good.

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>>97471417
nigga didn't live up to assurances given nor are they even available any longer

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>>97471319
I hate it but it's unironically better than real saturnine.

>>97471365
>>97471444
I need some more information.

>>97471477
I mean the bar is so fucking low, the saturnine terminators look like fucking ass.

>>97471487
I would have been a lot more on board if they didn't have ball joints

>>97471495
Its the balls joins, and the leg armor that fuck them up for me.
Also the fact they are just kinda shitty units.

What saturnine needed to be: Terminator shooting platform
What we got: Mid shooting platform that is just as much of a threat to itself as they are to the enemy.

I mean FFS the stock loadout is their best load out.

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What are these boxes sticking out of the back of a fellblade's turret supposed to be?

>>97471241
You joke, but I actually kinda like the way those look. The gun just needs to be chunkier.

>>97471530
The kratos also has it. Its either some sort of ammo compartment, or just cooling/electronics or whatever.

>>97471495
The ball joints are the best part retard. Most fun kit GW has made.

>>97471530
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bustle_rack

>>97471530
stores the brapinium

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I love Battletech Alpha Strike and quite like the Horus Heresy. I've heard that Adeptus Titanicus is quite similar to Alpha Strike, even down to the Knights working like Protomechs or Battle Armour.
Is it worth getting into in 2026? How dead is it? Still supported? I see the models and even the starter set are still produced so that's a good sign.
Thanks anons :)