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>Previously
>>97879924

>TQ
What is your favorite Blue & Black card?
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Thread Question
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>tq
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>>97889598
How is a specter different from a demon, a nightmare, or a spirit?
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>tq
the balanced 0 mana 3/3 that pitches to FoW
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>>97889620
Specters all fly.
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>TQ
Had so much fun playing when i drafted it
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>TQ

You posted it already.
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>>97889620
A demon is a black mana construct from the plane of Hell.
A nightmare is a generic mana construct.
A spirit is the soul of the dead or natural world.
A specter's only trait is it always rides a flying mount with it maybe being the actual specter.
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>>97889620
I think the difference between demons and specters is basically supposed to be the difference between angels and archons.
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I want an Orzhov sphinx. There are monoblue sphinxes, there are Dimir sphinxes, there are Azorius sphinxes, there are Esper sphinxes, there's even an Izzet sphinx, but there isn't an Orzhov sphinx, let alone a monoblack one. I think that's bad and more than a little homosexual.
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>>97889724
They are prioritize in blue. Maybe Reality Fracture will Mark said they been to have a set tribes colors mixed up.
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control all star
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>TQ
I miss the Dragonlords so much. I really hope they come back in Reality Fractured.
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Cruel Revival
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Abraça a tradição.
Regressa ao prémoderno, /tg/.
Regressa a casa...

TLnote:
Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...
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>>97889583
Actually using the counter part is always hilarious
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>>97889830
I don't think it would be super difficult to write them back. The way they went they were sucked into the giant dragonstorm ritual not long before Jace entered the meditation plane from Tarkir and did his big oopsie. Bullshitting them into having transmigrated into his new multiverse doesn't seem like a tall order.
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Jhessian Thief
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>>97889844
>Abraça a tradição.
>Regressa ao prémoderno, /tg/.
>Regressa a casa...
we don't talk like that

try this:
>Abrace a tradição.
>Venha pro prémoderno, /tg/.
>Venha pra casa...

t. actual brazlilian
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imagine asking Viggo to sign your Aragorn card
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>>97889935
Thanks, dude. Will update it for the next thread.
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>>97889583
Is xe cute?
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missed this guy during spoiler season but he basically reanimates cheap stuff every turn as long as you gain life
kinda neat
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>>97889978
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Just a reminder for those who want to discuss MtG without UB, a thread now exists
>>97888913
>>97888913
>>97888913
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>>97890317
Was it autism?
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>>97890372
No UB is just gay
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>>>/co/153226976
UB is loved
Chuds lost
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>>97890005
Yes, my life(and death) partner is absolutely adorable.
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>>97890392
Avatards are so delusional. Korra killed that franchise dead and in the comeback the writers have explicitly canonized it and refused to undo the damage the series inflicted
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>>97890005
It's hilarious how they couldn't even give her the faintest suggestion of boobs. She has to be flat as a board.
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>>97890450
Yeah, every once in a while WotC manages to stumble into perfection.
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>>97890417
Legend of kora was so fucking shit I'm convinced they plagiarized the first series from someone else. Or maybe it's just the woke mind virus that has infected everything from movies, tv series, even mtg itself with garbage artwork like the fucking leech collector.

TLA set was pretty good though. I enjoyed drafting it a few times. The pre-release was a lot of fun with the different character packs. Badger mole has fucked the game, I'm not sure any other cards mean jack shit. Maybe a few of the lands. Wan shit tong?

Avatar itself is a dead franchise and it's not coming back. The absolute ass pull that was making her a dyke at the end was unbelievably retarded.
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>>97889583
>TQ
The one and only.
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>>97889583
>TQ
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Me and my friend were having trouble figuring out a ruling.

So player A has earthbenders ascension with 4+ counters and is attacking with multiple eathbent lands. Player B blocks all three of those lands and has blockers strong enough to kill them.

When do the lands die and come back tapped? Is it after combat has completely resolved? Do they die in any order? We were unsure if them dying and coming back could trigger the landfall effect on ascension during combat and possibly give one of the lands +1 counters.
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>>97889978
>Got him to autograph the box and not the card
Wtf
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>>97890450
We love flat body type Bs here
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>>97890853
>double tome scour is still at 3-4 bucks

wtf
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Standard raped status?
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I'm a returning player from around Apocalypse. Played it in HS but dropped it in college.

I just want to ask, how do you guys keep up with all the sets being released? Used to be we tested a lot of combinations every time a new set is released but no way that's possible today. Do people who play this just play this game or have any other hobbies?
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Does black and purple count
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>>97891255
>how do you guys keep up with all the sets being released?
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>>97890774
>Legend of kora was so fucking shit I'm convinced they plagiarized the first series from someone else
No, it's just that they had a big team for AtLA while Korra is basically all Bryke. You could see the early warning signs of Korra tier writing in AtLA season 3, where Bryke was becoming more unchecked.
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>>97891255
>how do you guys keep up with all the sets being released
the thing is, I don't. I moved to format that excludes external IPs
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This is Falco Spara, Pactweaver. He is the one and only Demon outside Commander who is not black and/or red. Say something obsequious about him.
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>>97891315
wow, that's some shit flavor
they just can't help but fuck the colorpie in the asshole, huh
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>>97891255
Short answer as the other anons said: We dont.

Long answer: Even in the older days of 4 sets a year, the amount of cards that actually changed the meta in eternal formats were only a handful and even then it took a while for some cards to be "discovered" and figured out sometimes. With the massive amount of sets, the designs for most of these new cards are also really bland and derivative, so unless it's something really overpowered or really unique, we don't really bother keeping up with every single new card anymore.

Hence why other anons are now constantly talking about cube and such, so we can curate our own draft experiences without relying on WotC's bloated and generic card design now.
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>>97891176
Status: Still NonWhite
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>>97891315
>bird demon
>look at art and ability
>it's just 100% bird 0% demon
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>>97891315
Seems NotC forgot how to make demonic birds.
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Dead game
Dead formats
Dead discussion
Dead White
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>>97891454
Uh, blindbro, can't you see it's a bird with HORNS? It's only 90% a bird and at least 10% a demon, 95% bird at most.
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>dragons and non-dragons learn to cooperate during the phyrexian invasion
>this somehow didn't matter and the non dragons just decided to kill the dragonlords anywaythoughbeit in dragonstorm and summon some new gay overlords to rule over them
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>>97891290
I appreciate this meme.
This is a good meme.
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>>97891545
Do whiteoids never get tired whining?
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>>97891376
>Long answer: Even in the older days of 4 sets a year, the amount of cards that actually changed the meta in eternal formats were only a handful and even then it took a while for some cards to be "discovered" and figured out sometimes.
>With the massive amount of sets, the designs for most of these new cards are also really bland and derivative, so unless it's something really overpowered or really unique, we don't really bother keeping up with every single new card anymore.
This doesnt make sense to complain about in a business perspective
If you normally buy X sets a year what difference does it make if wotc releases 10 more? All you're saying to them is "you're releasing too many things we want to buy" which only proves wotc is correct in pushing fomo and that this isnt a problem
>no the sets suck now and the powercreep is insane that's why i'm mad
Then the number of sets is irrelevant, you would've whaled on all of them had wotc tickled your fancy and given you the appropriate power level
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Maybe MOM was a mistake. New Phyrexia could have stayed as its own little hermetically sealed box of fun.
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>>97891605
MOM was only a mistake because we actually dont know who the protagonist is, much less care enough to give a shit
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>>97891548
Silumgar was heckin' problematic and stuff, yeah? It's 2026, chud, get on the right side of history already.
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>>97891692
>one dragon is chud coded
>genocide everyone else too
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>>97891692
2017 ass post
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>>97891699
Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. I mean, how do you expect the skilled and fine writers at wotc to explain how one dragonlord got merked but not the rest? Nah, it's a much better solution to off-screen them so the writing team can insert new, commander-friendly OCs of their own.
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>>97891713
The only good reason to revisit a plane is for common sense conflict but tarkir 2.0 only changed the dragons not the status quo itself which makes the whole thing a dud; bolas couldve been released in any other set
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>>97891559
>red, blue, black and green kikes feasting on overpowered bullshit for 8 years straight
>“Oyvey, White should stop complaining so much”
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>>97889583
Super fun $.50 bulk rare choose carefully.
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>>97891566
>If you normally buy X sets a year what difference does it make if wotc releases 10 more?
Because I don't buy stuff with a yearly cap, I buy stuff when it interests me and when they make too much product, they stretch the interesting cards and designs over several sets instead of all being in a single cohesive one, you autist.

>All you're saying to them is "you're releasing too many things we want to buy"
No, they are releasing too much shit I do not care about. While back in the day we could have one set that was kind of meh, now we have several that are mediocre to downright bad in terms of design quality and power scaling bullshit. I haven't bought a single sealed product since War of the Spark and have only been buying singles ever since, clearly not the business model WotC wants PRECISELY because there's so much shit I don't even bother anymore. For example, I was thinking about playing the SOS pre-release, but I wasn't really feeling it this time, so I'll just wait for the next pre-release in a month or so and check it again. Back in the 4 sets format, I'd probably be more interested in playing it because I'd have to wait 3 months, because pre-release was a rare treat. Now that we have it every month, with blander and blander sets, I feel less and less compelled to even try and I'll just wait it out specifically for sets I even want to bother with, so in your logic, I'd play on average 3 pre-releases per year and now I just play 1 or 2, if that, because I'm not pickier with what I buy or play because the quality has diluted so much that I actually have to sift through the blandness and make a decision.

>Then the number of sets is irrelevant, you would've whaled on all of them had wotc tickled your fancy and given you the appropriate power level
Yes, if the product was good, I'd buy the product. Very fucking smart, anon. More product means more generic design means boring/shitty product. Get it now?
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>>97891837
>Because I don't buy stuff with a yearly cap, I buy stuff when it interests me and when they make too much product, they stretch the interesting cards and designs over several sets instead of all being in a single cohesive one, you autist.
Then the number of sets doesnt matter because they dont influence your buying, you autist
>No, they are releasing too much shit I do not care about
And that triggers your autism even though it shouldnt affect a sane person (you only buy stuff you like remember) sorry but wotc doesnt care about your disability no matter how much they virtue signal
>the product. Very fucking smart, anon. More product means more generic design means boring/shitty product.
Which you shouldnt care about - you only buy what you want, remember?
>Get it now?
What i do get is that you're triggered by wotc wasting cardboard, in which case roru rumao wotc needs a better class of haters
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>>97889583
>What is your favorite Blue & Black card?
Dunno about favorite but I like these two.
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>What?
>You wanted pantsu?
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>Lolicon Magic
Destroy All Anal Holes (They Can’t Be Regenerated)
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>>97891854
You fucking retard. They have a limited amount of design space and designers, more product means a more diluted product or shoving the cool stuff in products I don't care about, like cool stuff for constructed in commander trash or unique card designs in UB shit. All the good stuff that was concentrated in fewer sets are now spread over several different products, hence why I've been buying singles instead of sealed products, because the good stuff is now spread far in-between.

I care because I used to have fewer products with enough quality that warranted me to buy bigger purchases, now U buy smaller purchases and fewer ones because the good stuff has to be spread around over twice the product.


>What i do get is that you're triggered by wotc wasting cardboard, in which case roru rumao wotc needs a better class of haters
I'm not triggered, it's just a waste of everybody's time and money and stuffs the meta of the competitive formats like crazy. I USED to play standard and modern, but I don't anymore because there's so much shit being shoved into metas that keeping up is tiresome and more expensive.

YOU don't seem to get how the game development works because you think the game can just crank more and more cards and that's something that can happen forever when the product gets worse and worse.

You are defending the slop machine, good for you, I personally think that previously having 80% good stuff amongst the smaller pool of product is better than having 30% of good stuff spread over twice the amount of product.

Simple as that. In the same way you are asking why I care, I can ask you why you defend it on the same breath.
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What bottom of the barrel tie in do you think is next? I'm thinking the Kardashians.
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>>97891964
Why does the middle black card kind of looks weird? Shouldn't the girls be looking at the weird slug monster biting the middle one's finger?
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>>97891986
Hasbrews are already going through the top tier IP’s too fast like TMNT, Marvel,Avatar, LOTR, Jurassic Park, Trek, Godzilla, etc.
Soon they’ll move on to the B-tiers of Thundercats, G.I. Joe, DC Comics, Avatar(blue aliens), Alien(movies), Back To The Future
Then the shit really starts to stink. The C-tier dregs. Judge Dredd, Animaniacs, Goosebumps, Inspector Gadget, Rick and Morty, Smurfs, Family Guy, World of Warcraft, etc
It’s going to get really bad really fast before we even hit the 5 year mark
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Do you grow to like him more since he became a space pirate and gained ginormous tiddies?
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Naruto
Dragon Ball
Probably enough content for JJK
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UB: Black Sun Empire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZyqhW0uEmI
Think about it
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Why is all so gay all the time
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>>97891986
kpop and romantasy are still coming
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>>97892041
>card depicts gay couple
>cast Secret Rendezvous
>flavor is that you and your opponent to go on a date
>you can literally force your opponent to be gay with you
It's a deceptively powerful card.
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it's real
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For far too long, kikes, as a people, have been destroying western fantasy with their appeasement toward minorities and special interest groups. Premodern has no such kikery, and therefore is the best representation of mono white.
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Ah shit. It's this guy.
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Always happy to see some Eldraine. Even when it's Eldraine, Japan (now in English).
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>>97892063
>Anehlo
>Anal-O
Kek
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Alandra > Eula > Segante > Kequia > Jamira
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>>97892054
sweet now boards can even be more confusing by being a oscean of ascii placeholders
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>>97891980
Holy retarded essay
Why does it matter if something you like appears in commander sets or whatever? Just be glad it appeared in the first place; you only buy what you like, right?
>i dont like wotc working on things i hate
I hate limited but do you see me crying over the 'wasted development time' wotc spends on draft chaff rather than (format i like) especially when people can just play cube instead? Ofc you dont, because unlike you i know that the world doesnt revolve around me and i'm wiser than crying over things i cant control
>I care because I used to have fewer products with enough quality that warranted me to buy bigger purchases, now U buy smaller purchases and fewer ones because the good stuff has to be spread around over twice the product.
>this triggers me even though i'm actually saving on money since i ostensibly say that i'm not a paypiggy and i only buy what i like
Lmao
>YOU don't seem to get how the game development works
Fewer sets didnt stop fallen empires, homelands, saviors of kamigawa, dragon's maze, born of the gods, battle for zendikar, etc
Bad sets will appear forever and you've done just fine in moving on from them, it's just your autism getting the better of you because UB bad? Lol
>previously having 80% good stuff amongst the smaller pool of product is better than having 30% of good stuff spread over twice the amount of product.
The previous 80% model makes you spend more compared to having 30% of good stuff spread over twice the product where you spend less in exchange for having more patience in waiting for the stuff you like, but since you prefer the old model (this is me even granting that you somehow like all the shitty stuff wotc has been putting out since rtr 2012 btw which is a retard admission in and of itself) what shows is that you want to buy for the sake of buying so in truth you're not someone 'who buys what he likes' but rather someone 'who will buy UW no matter how shit it is because it's wotc and not UB' KEK
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>>97892054
>we play dwarf fortress so we decided to add dwarf fortress to mtg art
WOW, whats next? Croc? Counter strike, dota, lol? Tetris? Mario? Katawa Shoujo?
Who fucking allows this shit
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>>97892080
What do you have against Jamira? I liked her and how like her father she's all FUCK PLANESWALKERS.
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>>97889583
>TQ
This one. It's just a really fun type of search effect.
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>>97890762
fucking kek
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Is it too hard to ask for altenative art cards that still have boders/frames
I like when my mtg cards look like mtg cards
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>>97892419
I will never understand why they do so many borderless variants - none of them look good at all. Most variants look like shit regardless.
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>>97892419
Just ignore Secret Lairs
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>>97892443
>braps mechanically unique cards in them
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>>97892433
I like my steel leaf champ :)
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>>97892451
literally none of the Secret Lair exclusive cards are legal outside of Legacy, Vintage or Commander
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>>97891255
>we tested a lot of combinations every time a new set is released but no way that's possible today.
The internet has made it possible in just 2 weeks. After that the format stagnated.
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>>97892080
>>97892249
Jamira and Kequia just get the least focus in the book. Obviously Eula is the most characterised, and Alandra and Segante sort of trade-off the secondary focus, but Jamira's characterisation is pretty much all in two chapters and it boils down to "I hate Planeswalkers and the interconnected Multiverse because my dad kept leaving me and the Invasion confirmed my bias". Kequia, meanwhile... I don't know what her character is beyond "is related to Teferi". She genuinely doesn't have a lot going for her besides being aware of more things than the rest of the cast.
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>>97892470
one day they will fuck up and print a legacy playable and one can't ignore it anymore
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>>97892054
I forget how to read Dwarf Fortress are the purple pound signs unbreathable gases?
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If you had to pick between levelers and parties, which mechanic would you like to see again in a future set?
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>>97892554
Levelers, Jesus christ, Full Party is the worst least flavorful effect ever.
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>>97892235
Dwarf fortress fits reasonably well, though the "art" obviously doesn't. Dota and lol would too (Dota even had a Richard Garfield card game of its own, briefly...)
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>>97892554
Level up of course.
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>>97892080
Cool art except Growth Spiral. Quandrix continues to be the worst Harry Potter house.
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>>97892080
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>>97892080
I'm ready for Shandalar: The Way of Water.
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>>97891095
Damage is marked during the damage step of combat. As a state-based action, any creature with lethal damage is destroyed. At the next round of priority, the earthbend abilities will trigger to return the lands (the controlling player can order these however they wish). Those will resolve during "combat" but after damage has been marked so it won't be relevant.
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Need explanation to interaction i saw on stream
When player had Shark + Squirrel on field and would cast a spell, squirrel token would be created with same amount of counters as phyrexian incubator. why is that?
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>>97892628
Idk that makes no sense to me boss.
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>>97892628
I suspect that it is because Chatterfang creates a replacement effect rather than creating the extra token itself.
Essentially it changes the text of Seedshark to:
"Whenever you cast a noncreature spell incubate X (create [an Incubator token plus a 1/1 green Squirrel creature token] with X +1/+1 counters on it)

I do not know whether this is intentional behavior since I cannot find anything under the comprehensive rules of Incubate that indicates whether or not additional tokens also get counters. If, for example, you had Doubling Season and created two Incubator tokens, I don't know whether or not both of them would get the counters.
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>>97892628
It's because Chatterfang's replacement effect just tacks on a 1/1 squirrel token to the rest of the effect, but incubate still goes "all the tokens I create get X +1/+1 counters" and it sees the squirrel as part of that.
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>>97892636
By comp rules, Incubate is:
>701.53a To incubate N, create an Incubator token that enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters on it. See rule 111.10i.
Ergo, any replacement effects would be included in the "enters with N counters" part because they're added on.
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>>97892632
>>97892636
https://www.twitch.tv/thehamtv/clip/ScaryEnchantingJackalKreygasm-ZyimO3alWWjGuRA5

Made a clip to prove myself i wasnt crazy
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>>97892628
>The additional Squirrel tokens won't have any abilities the other tokens were created with. Anything else specified in the effect creating the token (such as tapped, attacking, "That token gains haste," or "Exile that token at end of combat") applies to both the original tokens and the Squirrels.

>To incubate N, create an Incubator token that enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters on it. See rule 111.10i.

"Anything else" includes entering with extra counters.
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>>97892054
This is fucking based and is the only good thing to come out of SL and UB
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>>97892646
I see.
I understand why a replacement effect that replaces the Incubator token with a different token (ala Divine Visitation) would get the tokens but I did not know for sure that a replacement effect that kept the Incubator but added another token would give them both counters.
The replacement literally reading "Create an Incubator token and a green Squirrel token that enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters on it" doesn't make a huge amount of sense grammatically unless only the Squirrel gets the tokens (because of 'it' being singular) so my brain read the replacement effect as:
"Create an Incubator token that enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters on it and a green Squirrel" because that creates a proper English sentence.
I don't dispute the rules, I just think that they are somewhat unintuitive from a grammatical/syntactical sense.

when I checked the rules for Incubate I was hoping to find something like >>97892638
that said "put X +1/+1 counters on each token created this way".
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>>97892664
Well, you just have to substitute in appropriate grammar for replacement effects. It's the same for an effect that gives a token haste or sacrifices it at end of combat. Pic-related with Chatterfang would create a soldier and a squirrel both tapped and attacking that are sac'd at end of turn despite the grammar of it. The effect being replaced is the token creation itself. As part of the incubate effect, counters are added to the token(s), and incubate doesn't care how many tokens it's actually creating. All effects that would be applied to the singular token normally by incubate or similar effects are applied to all additional replacement effect-created tokens.
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>strixhaven is going to do big numbers
on one hand, good that UW does well, but did have to be the faux HP setting that does it?
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>>97892522
It's underground grass, whoever took the screenshot had the setting on that simplifies grass and stone appearance
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>>97892769
This is crazy to me because I don't see any incredible playables out of it and the archives this time around are so much worse than the first time.
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>>97892053
Well the art for rendezvous is these same two lesbos so the continuity is there i guess. Also both cards are terrible.
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>>97889583
Did he survive the Phyrexian invasion?
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>>97889978
kek
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>>97892620
Okay thank you.
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>>97892769
>first UW set of 2026
>promoted with the first new novel since WAR seven years ago
>getting a companion sourcebook next year
I guess the team is just packed with Potterheads or some shit.
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>>97892676
I understand that now, in retrospect I should have been looking at the clarification/ruling for Chatterfang >>97892658 rather than the comp-rules for Incubate. I think it's card-specific rules rather than something that I could have looked up in either 'replacement effects' or 'token production'. I'm still getting used to understanding when I need to look at card-specific rulings vs comp.
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>>97892902
>first UW set of 2026
that was lorwyn
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>>97892824
No, he battled his old student Vorniclex on the flight deck of the Invasion Tree so that his new student The Wandering Emperor could escape.
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>>97892824
Insofar as I'm curious what Kamigawa looks like post-Invasion, I'd much rather know how the Soratami are faring after their entire civilization turned into pic related.
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>>97892805
I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that the OG archive had better cards in it.
The cards I think are good/desirable in some format are:
>Brainstorm
>Counterspell
>Dark Ritual*
>Demonic Tutor*
>Doom Blade
>Duress
>Ephemerate
>Growth Spiral
>Inquisition of Kozilek
>Lightning Bolt
>Opt
>Regrowth
>Swords to Plowshares
>Teferi's Protection*
>Tendrils of Agony
>Time Warp*
With asterisks indicating 'expensive' cards.

Doing the same with the new set:
>Armageddon*
>Brain Freeze
>Cyclonic Rift*
>Daze
>Flusterstorm*
>Force of Will*
>Preordain
>Spell Pierce
>Dismember
>Vampiric Tutor*
>Abrade
>Jeska's Will*
>Berserk
>Glimpse of Nature
>Veil of Summer*
>Expressive Iteration
Seems like more value and higher number of desirable cards. Did you just mean the art?
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>>97892926
It'll be SAID to be different but look largely the same in cards.
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Would you scour her thoughts?
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Sealed is a valid form of Magic: the Gathering
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>>97892805
the Prepared cards seem to be wildly overhyping the set, and people love their Mystical Archives regardless
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>>97892461
see it still looks cool because it has a borderframe
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>>97893023
Which is ironic because the "best" prepared card by far is that 1/2 for W that has the 1W tap/untap + draw spell. The Reanimate one might be better but it doesn't come auto-prepared.
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>>97893057
the 3/3 for 1WW that comes with a token and maybe a Swords will probably see a decent amount of play
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JOGA

PRÉMODERNO
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>>97893138
I do, what deck do you play?
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>TQ
If you don't understand from this image, you never will
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>>97893057
Leech Collector will unironically be a bomb for limited.
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I need a single basic island for my legacy dredge deck this weekend. Pick for me, /tg/
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>>97893379

bottom right
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>>97893379
top left
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>>97889583
>TQ
i love surprise cantrip sinkhole
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>>97893379
Bottom left
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How much does it cost to get back into Magic?
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This new secret lair is genuinely shit isn't it? There are two cards worth anything. Defense of the heart is a fucking pony card and then there is this one. I liked Dwarf Fortress but not because of the ASCII artwork, in fact it was despite it. The Dwarf Fortress cards are the absolute laziest. Instead of using it as a theme and making cards to fit the game they just had someone get a few screenshots and slapped them on some reprints. I guess Hasbro are having an especially tough financial quarter and really need to pad out their numbers with lazy parachute sets like this.
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>>97892941
why her skirt is so short?
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>>97893471
Pretty sure they asked the artist, he came back with a full pantyshot, so they told him to tune it down and he ended up adding hotpants to the chick even though now it doesn't make sense at all why she's having both hot pants and a skirt on
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>tq

Which of the 5 do you think is the strongest color combination for SOS Prereleases? The store I'm going to lets people pick their preferred one.
I'm unsure between Boros and Golgari myself, the commons/uncommons there seem best with the highest value and synergies.
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>>97893474
bike_shorts_under_skirt
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>>97893379
top right
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>>97893388
>>97893404
>>97893409
>>97893547
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>>97893379
I dont like any of them
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>>97893165
notion thief in responce to jace +0?
unfathomably based
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>>97892940
Soratami moonfolk that can't FLY is sad.
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why the hell we have two generals?
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>>97893779

someone got really butthurt about the ub stuff
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FISH TUMMY SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>97892922
Did he use *that* technique?
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>>97893865
I don't remember, did the Strixhaven kids take note of how fugly the merfolk were in Lorwyn Eclipsed? Because merrows are clearly several tiers below Arcavian merfolk.
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>>97893925
I'm sorry but I don't care for merfolk to be humans with different skin color.
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>>97893934
I like that they have variety.
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the one other person who plays legacy
should i worry about dark rit in a midrange rakdos initiative brew
should i also run wastelands?
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>>97893951
If anything humans are a multiversal outlier because of how little variation there is between them from one plane to another.
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>>97893951
Correct, but you also pointed out that you were not sexually attracted to Lorwyn Merfolk, which stands in contradiction with your statement.
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>>97893966
> That skull shape
Lorwyn Eclipsed was a garbage set.
like a 5/10 for current year mtg
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>>97894046
I take that was your first contact with the plane, right?
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>>97894101
This. Lorwyn is supposed to look non-human. There are many things to complain about current MTG art direction, but Lorwyn merfolk look groddy isn't one of them, it's by design since its creation.
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>>97894101
Are you trying to say that me reading dei into the fish people is wrong?
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>>97894152
I don't even know what this means.
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>>97893934
Not everything is about you.
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>>97894152
In this case yes, you mindrot retard. You are calling out the ONE plane with gross, fairytale creatures for having gross looking fae creatures.
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Where can I find high resolution art of the card arts? Not the cards themsleves, just the art
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>>97893460
yeah the DF cards in particular seem as bad as the Monster Hunter SLD in terms of card flavor and relevance to the source material. Secret Rendezvous' flavor has a dead vampire victim and Rune-Scarred Demon references the discovery of an ore vein, it's a complete fucking nonsequitur. I doubt they'll cancel this one though, Dorf Fort fans aren't as many or vocal as MonHun fans (if they're even upset about these)
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>>97893460
You actually expect pushback from westoids that think that a urinal is art? Naive fool LMAO
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>>97894175
Clearly not about you either.
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In your opinion, which Magic Arena format is better, Standard, or Brawl?
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>>97893965
I recall that came up in EOE. It's revealed early on that humans aren't the norm in the Edge, the insect people are. They're the most numerous and widespread and are essentially the baseline for sapient life. And humans, unlike most species of the Edge, have next to no internal subdivisions amongst themselves in terms of morphologies or clades, only the separation of the sexes making for any meaningful biological specialization between the specimens. Other species look at that and think humans are so alike they all might as well be clones.
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>>97894477
any format on arena is better than standard
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>>97894477
I only play Pioneer on Arena myself.
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>>97894477
Limited.
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>>97894477
Shouldn't the fairie token be legendary too?
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>>97894477
Pioneer. The one and only thing I can enjoy in that shit client.
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>>97891971
What was your list? There's a slim chance I may someday have the time and money to waste on building one of those.
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Are all the strixhaven spoilers out yet?
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>>97894707
yes, they're done
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>>97894516
This. Arena is for drafting only - anything else is a complete waste of your time.
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>>97894810
I quit arena the moment they launched alchemy i refuse to be their unpaid beta tester
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>>97894839
Technically, paper Magic is beta testing for Alchemy
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>>97894850
No that would be arena it's much easier for wotc to collect data there
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>>97894869
Wizards prints design mistakes into paper, then fixes them on Arena later. Thanks for beta testing, suckers
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Imagine a future where cards don’t get banned, they just change cards on the digital platform after you’ve already used your wildcards on them
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Which college is gonna perform best at the prereleases?
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>>97894979
whoever pulls Silverquill (the dragon) or the Swords Emeritus
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>>97894886
Speaking of which
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secrets-of-strixhaven-update-bulletin
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>>97894839
Alchemy would have been cool if they didnt shove it into every single format. I dont want to play with or against hearthstone cards in legacy formats fucking whores man.
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>>97894886
Paper chads arent beta testers given that wotc has to eat the shame of banning and ruining formats
Meanwhile arena wimps are beta testers for wotc to realize "hey we should've made this card like this instead" and they expect you to THANK them for 'fixing' shit LMAO
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My Strixhaven wife. And such a nice art, too.
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>>97889583
Test
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>>97895135
Diet Rootha
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UB: Nethack will be a full set that rotates Vintage.
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My ears are bleeding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPoB-lDNqCk
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>>97895590
This is supposed to be an elephant speaking, btw.
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Do they still make deckboxes for 60 card/75 card? Or will I save myself the headache by getting a 100 card deckbox because it seems thats all you can find anymore.
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No one plays 60 card formats, no need to have such boxes.
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>>97895748
Yeah they do, that's what I have
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Why did they make this wizened old hag so hot?
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>>97894886
Unban him....
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>>97895748
Just use the 100 card boxes. A lot of 100 card boxes are actually too small for 100 cards, at least for my double sleeved cards. The only use for 100 card boxes for me has actually been for my 60 card decks with token and sideboard.
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>>97894481
That's cool, I really need to read the stories of MTG
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>>97894203
The Demon works actually. Because adamantine, when you mine it, you open up Hell and the demons come for your shit, as the image shows a demon standing over a dead dwarf.
Secret Rendezvous is because vampires often tempt your dwarves to secret meetings that you're not made aware of.
Communal Brewing being a tavern instead of the actual brewery is a bit weak though.
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>>97895908
She's a crone in her mirror collar, so she probably has some Dorian Gray bullshit going on.
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>>97894481
Yeah, the 'hat' humans have in EOE is that they're weirdly similar to each other and also incredibly prone to religious extremism, because the majority of the Monoists and the Summists are human.
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>>97895590
jfc
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>>97892041
i like carpete munchers :(
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>>97895590
Is that Yuri Lowenthal?
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Here's your uncommon bro
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>>97897219
3000 dollars for an uncommon? is it a special print 1 of 1?
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>>97897262
it's yen closer to 20 dollars.
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>>97897262

>dollars
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>>97897219
I'm still surprised stock up is so expensive as an uncommon. I had a copy in my EDH deck and it really does feel amazing to play with.
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>>97893460
>I liked Dwarf Fortress but not because of the ASCII artwork, in fact it was despite it.
Just like funko pop, fortnite and the likes you have to understand that those things are not made for the fans but just so people can say "Look! I'm also part of [fanbase]"
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>>97897262
Anon?
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>>97897296
If they're making old /tg/ games into secret lairs there is one I would much prefer
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Why was I never given a Sheoldred or Elesh Norn face reveal? That was very rude.
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>>97897262
Zoomers should not be allowed to use the internet
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>>97897296
Fucking kill yourself you faggot retard holy fuck you're such a poser
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>>97893460
The only person that said that it looked cool was the only one that has not played dwarf fortress
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>>97897878
Kill yourself faggot
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ASCII in roguelikes never bothered me, but DF is way complex fuck that.
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ASCII terminal roguelikes are fucking SOUL and these retarded posts are the straw on my camel back holy fuck. This thread is so fucking retarded and filled with tasteless faggots.
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>>97897885
Praying for UB: Nethack just for the seethe.
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No. DCSS.
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>There were uglier beasts in the Multiverse, meaner ones, and possibly more dangerous ones. None of them has a demon's malignant aura. Born-folk had a word, rape. It occurred on every world, in every language. In Phyrexian, as Xantcha understood it, the word for rape was Gix.
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Paradigm is the single gayest mechanic since Companion. Good job, Maro.
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>>97898062
Why? Also Reggie Valk designed Paradigm.
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>>97897874
Struck a nerve?
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>>97897965
Planeswalker is definitely a step down from The Brothers War but it is still a decent read.
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>new set releases on arena
>game breaks
>I have to uninstall and reinstall the game
>13GB of content
>this every time a new set releases
Anyone else or is it just me?
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>>97898932
No.
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>>97891315
>only family head looking out for the good of the city and not just his own vanity show
>ultimate guarantor of law in a lawless city, other families abide contracts only thanks to him
>only family head who earned his position through achievement and acquired skills
>masterminded the defense against Phyrexia with more success than the family that sees the future
Dude should probably be killed off. He makes his peers look bad in comparison.
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>>97899541
They probably will kill him off down the line because he was supposed to be a cop originally and law enforcement is bad according to blm
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>>97898932
It's not 13 whole GB come on now, we all download this game dude. But yes it is very annoying how the client breaks itself every month with every tiny patch and tweak. I wish the game would just update itself in the background or something like every other modern game.
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>>97898932
That sounds like a you problem dude, I get big updates once in a while but not on that scale and not because the client breaks.
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>>97891255
I don't. This happened to me in digimon card game too, where the release schedule is too aggressive, and you get power crept out in 6 months.
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>>97899839
>plane is a literal mafia warzone
>the fact that there is more than a small town is a miracle
>one person decides that gang violence is not what a city should be built on
>this is a bad thing, actually
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>>97900259
Wasn't the backstory that the city itself was built when both demons and angels banded together to rebuild it after they pushed the phyrexians aways and the current demon dominated version of the city is only like that because the demons betrayed the angels and took over?

So, it would make sense that SOME order would be required, since the city was only first built when angels were around to keep it somewhat in order. Maybe the demons made it the massive metropolis it is today, but even that is somewhat considered a massive bloated opulent decadence, even within universe.

Also, I'm pretty sure at least one card references leaving town, so there must be other towns or city in the plane beyond New Capenna.
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>>97889583
>TQ
I love this little fella
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>>97900383
>there must be other towns or city in the plane beyond New Capenna.
NTA but yeah, the rest of the plane outside the city didn't disappear, it's just become a wasteland. I think there are still vintage Phyrexians running around out there, since that's part of Elspeth's backstory.
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>>97900383
I remember one of the stories briefly showed the outside of the city, it was basically a wasteland. Can't recall if it was just monsters or bandits but everybody preferred staying within the city.
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>>97900383
There's Old Capenna
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>>97900383
>>97900259
It's much more likely a return to Capenna would either have the angels as the de facto law enforcement already established, or as them trying to bring law to a lawless plane. A big issue with SNC as a set was that it was a 'crime plane' where there's no visible laws or any real governance outside of the criminals.
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>>97889620
Demons are black mana made manifest
Specters are undead that have discard or milling mechanics
Spirits are dead people
Nightmares are intangible creatures that aren't wholly there like illusions
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>>97900652
>Specters are undead that have discard or milling mechanics
And then there's fucking Strixhaven.
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>>97891315
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>>97900670
I kinda hate that it's a Demon and not a Construct because ONLY FFXV's is a Demon.
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>>97900676
It's support for when they make mono-white demon tribal in Reality Fracture.
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>>97900686
Reality Fracture will do more "characters in the wrong colours" as opposed to "fundamental things and tribes in the wrong colours" I feel. Or they'll make them predominantly in SORT of right colours, like demons in mono-red mostly.
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>>97900702
You will have your "le god of le church was le real demons" and you will love it.
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>>97900686
Cool. Can I have monoblack sphinxes or something as well?
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>>97900707
We've actually had surprisingly few evil religions in Magic. I guess the Cabal was sort of a cult, and Ixalan's vampires are... Well, they're schisming and one half of that schism is definitively evil because literal Vampire Jesus came back and told them to knock it off and they went "No, I like being a bloodsucking monster".
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>>97900686
I feel like it could be fun to think first in terms of mixing tribes and second in terms of the colorpie. Just playing scrabble with the types, like "Archon Spider", "Horror Human Bard" and "Angel Minotaur". Basically brainstorming with tribal prompts and see what the writers and artists come up with to fit the jumbled theme.
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>>97900686
>Mono white demons
I'm surprised it hasn't happened already. They despise white people. They just keep printing black people as white cards. Maybe they actually worship demons and satan so making mono white demons would be a compliment in their eyes. Black angels are a fucking joke.
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>>97900828
Black angels are soulful.
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>>97900951
Indeed, as long as their skin is still pure.
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>>97897874
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>>97897881
>>97897885
DF was a good game but ASCII artwork was not used as a stylistic choice. You had to use your imagination a lot. I don't hate ASCII or DF but when I think of a DF magic card I expect it to look how I imagined the game would look. Not some shitty low effort screenshots.
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>>97900670
They should've gone with their original appearances and lore, I might've actually bought the set if they did.
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Fans of the /mtg(-UB)/ thread will be pleased to know it is back up after momentarily getting jannied due to false report
>>97901462
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Are any or all of these real or fake? One I purchased online from a card shop (not something expensive relatively) but its corners are strange. The white bordered one.

The two black bordered ones are cards I opened but you can see for example the top left one has the kind of squared edges like the middle white border one, but the middle white border one (looks odd to me (the corner).

you can see all of those cards have different brightness/darkness of the backs too, I tried to have the light be somewhat neutral but there is a difference between all 3.

quite perplexing I'm honestly just wondering if the white bordered card is a fake but it seems like an unlikely card to waste faking
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>>97901583
Stay in your own thread, ass mad faggot.
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bant
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Thinking about quitting commander. Bracket system is a joke. It’s either premodern or legacy at this point.
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>>97901763
I found bracket 4 is the only playable bracket. everyone has good shit and you do too, and when someone plays broken/wild shit people are like "damn nice play!" instead of being crybaby faggots "you CANT DO THAT!!!!!"

b5 playing stupid combos/ solitaire instead of actually playing commander is just as gay as the bracket 2/3 crybabies
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>>97901763
>Brought commander deck I made back in 2021 with some MH3 upgrades to an event (deck is roughly mid-bracket 2)
>Everyone says their decks are "basically" bracket 2
>Have to spend 2 boardwipes just to keep two players from winning turns 5 and 6 respectively (no one else even tried)
>Opponent #3 casts 4 eldrazi off suspend turn 7
>Mfw I drove out here to play against these "people"
Modern commander is so fucking boring. Part of the fun of commander was that it wasn't Magic, it was just a shitpile of cards you liked with some powerful synergies. With this kind of powerlevel I'd rather play pre-MH legacy, or at least Canadian Highlander.
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So what prerelease box would you pick if you were going to LGS sealed this weekend, /mtg/? Best house for sealed??
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>>97901840
>playing with eldrazi fags
Inevitable result sadly
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>>97901790
You have your own general for this shit. Fuck off faggot.
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>>97901763
There is very little overlap between these formats. Even if you sift through all your commander decks and take out everything you can use in Premodern, you will only have to replace a handful of cards.
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>>97897965
I wish JOTC would stop Gix’ng White
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>>97902154
Yeah it's a shame white is only in most of the top decks instead of all of them.
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>>97902154
I think the present particle form of phyrexian verbs is the same as their normal forms.
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What exactly do you get in the 'bonus pack' for the prerelease kits

I know that they are aligned with the school's colors, but what I wanna know is if they always contain the same cards or if they are semi-random
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What prerelease kit are you going with tomorrow? Witherbloom appeals the most to me, and if I have enough good mana fixing and payoffs im hoping to go 5 colors.
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>>97901931
I picked silverquill but I had no knowledge of the cards when I did so, and have no idea if it was a good pick, and have never played sealed before.
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>>97901763
I play both modern and legacy and would not recommend getting into legacy to anyone if you have access to a premodern scene
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>>97900951
bring back FORETELL
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>>97902957
You could DM Rosewater and demand an accelerated timeline for Return to Kaldheim.
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I HATE THIS MOTHERFUCKER AND HIS GODDAMN SEWER VEILLANCE CAM!
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>>97902980
But I don't want to return to Kaldheim!
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>>97903194
I do.
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>>97903215
I am just now realizing his tail has been flattened, and tattooed. They turned his tail into a banner. We'll go back when wotc wants to wear a vikang hat again.
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Turtles in time turns easily 5 for 1 's against most decks. Theres no reason to have the exile effect clause. If i am at the point in the game where i am casting this spell a second time then i already won. I just like the idea of the deck being able to take infinite turns and this clause ruins it.
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>>97903215
Tbqh I don't even remember what Boast does anymore, most of what I recall about KHM is that it launched in that period when WotC was trying to make characters like Kaya and Niko and Vivien pop off.
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>>97902684
cool fucking deck, anon
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>>97903293
WotC just does this now on most timetwister effects because people looped it in ABU even though at this point at 8 mana they could put themselves on top of your fucking library and be unplayable.
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>>97902200
>kike gaslighting again
Doesn’t work on me you lying kike
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/standard#paper
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>>97902684
Legacy will always be the best format but premodern have gotten my attention lately damn the cards have spiked in that format!
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>>97903303
Boast is activated after attacking with the creature
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>>97903498
Shut the fuck up already you nigger kike. Nobody gives a fuck.
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>>97901591
100% fake. If you sell or trade these away you can be sued because you were aware of their fakeness. My advice would be to tear them apart, throw them away and never risk having any trouble with them.
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Some of you guys are alright. dont come to pre-release tonight. join me at the premodern table instead.

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