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>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-r estricted-february-9-2026
>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-bet a-update-february-9-2026
>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander- brackets-beta
>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned
>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com
>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com
>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com
>Card search
https://scryfall.com
>Precons
https://magicprecons.com
Thread Culture
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas
>Did anon's story happen?
https://files.catbox.moe/ika7gh.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SEDzynMiQ&t=44s
https://files.catbox.moe/t0zq17.jpg
>Why is mono green so boring?
https://files.catbox.moe/2x8qly.jpg
>Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
TQ: Which color do you dislike the most?
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Any feedback? We try to keep our decks around 400 usd and loosely in the B3/B4 zone.
https://moxfield.com/decks/ghRhZ_T8UEeKRi7jfRMWVQ
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>Playing with a tranny at my LGS
>HE is playing Breya as commander
>I'm playing Miirym
>Play opportunistic dragon and steal his commander
>Joke that the dragon is probably raping Breya in his lair
>Only one other person laughs
>Tranny looks pissed
>Finish the game neither of us win
>Next week I come back
>LGS manager says I'm banned because there have been complaints about me
It was probably the rape joke right?
Posted in the wrong general. You faggots sure do post a lot huh.
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>>97893649
Trannies are super sensitive and rape jokes have gotta already clear a pretty tough bar to be funny
Sorry they overreacted, shouldve just talked to you and said "hey, not cool, maybe skip a week and come back later"
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>>97893237
Not saved and I forgot the deck at my friend's place because I'm a fucking idiot. Ask me next week or something. Pretty much it's like ~20 Threatens + Eldrazi and all the cards that make tons of spawns for ramp. Card draw is ASS because monored + I hate impulse draw, so it relies on reallll shitty/budget stuff like fuckin Arcane Encyclopedia/Eye of Vecna/Bonders Enclave/Bandit's Haul/Heirloom Epic/some others I can't remember. But it balances the deck because it's a piece of shit that steals people's big baddies and emerges out eldrazi from them and of course runs all the "your creatures have haste" stuff so they can immediately attack
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>book errata is live
Christ almighty please give us a commander that cares about books. +1/+1 for each book you control or literally anything like that I'm DYING to make a buff librarian please god I'll do anything PLEASE
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>opponent has Elas il kor out
>sacs like 20+ creature tokens to win
Any way to counter this? I know Stifle can hit one triggered ability, but are the "end the turn" cards the only way to stop dozens of triggers like her's while all on the stack?
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>>97893829
Summary Dismissal
Whirlwind Denial
Glen Elenda's Answer
Kadena's Silencer
Time Stop effects (as you mentioned)
Not letting your opponent get 40 pieces of material
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>TQ
Blue.
Zach Hedel's voice lives rent free in my head and every time I hear "In response", he starts screaming
>PLEEEAASE DADDY, PLEEEEEASE, I JUST WANT TO CAST A SPELL DADDDY PLEASE I'VE BEEN SUCH A GOOD BOY THIS GAME PLEEEEEEAAAAASE
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My wife if you even care
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Lets say I cast this and have Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite in play giving all creatures -2/-2 and my opponent only has 1 creature.
Will the state-based action of the inkling dying from Elesh Norn after being gifted via the ETB happen immediately causing the prepare trigger to fail or will the spell resolve seeing that my opponent has more creatures than me giving me Swords to Plowshare?
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>>97894603
First, there's no spell resolving in your scenario, it is the Emeritus' ETB triggered ability resolving.
Second, it's all one ability with no gap so the State-based action of the inkling's death doesn't occur until after the entire ability of the Emeritus resolves, including the creature count check. tldr, in that scenario Emeritus would become prepared
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I had all the bullshit high power cEDH wannabe *teleports behind you* 'nothing personal, kid' two card combo commanders. Is there a list of comfy jank commanders? Bracket 2, maybe 3, not stronger and going for flavour not powercreep bullshit. I swear I will start buying precons because those are at least honest in including shit cards on purpose.
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Leremy’s understatement
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Enchantment
If a player would draw a card except the first on their draw step, that player may pay 1, if they don’t, exile the top card of their library
If a player would create a treasure token, instead they create a mana barbs token
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>>97895199
She's the definition of new age commanders that enables itself. Unfortunately, she's not op enough to draw attention. Compare her to winota for example, the ikoria girl can cheat multiple guys for free turn 3-4, while Bre is only one depending on your life gain. Anyway, boros lifegain is a cool concept, I'll build her in a few months for low Power tables using 50 dollars
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>>97890923
>TQ: Which color do you dislike the most?
Based on my commanders, what do you think?
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Why is mono G so fun?
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Are my reanimation targets based or cringe?
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>>97893826
I do own the card. A nice Chinese man made a reprint for me!
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>>97895714
What are some more fun choices that are still impactful?
>>97895719
You're never gonna believe this
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>>97893826
I did not was my hands at the urinal
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>>97895727
You should run this terrible card instead of sheoldred.
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Are all 3 of these real magic cards and if not, which is/are fake?
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>>97895577
I love my boy Six.
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Are all 3 of these cards legit from the corner radii seen here
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>playing in pod with no described brackets
>I am playing a modified bracket 2 precon
>everyone else is literally running MLD like armageddon and such
>I still win
Bracket 4 ain't nothin
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>decide to make Esper Urza
>realize that if I do, I'll have 2 Esper decks
>autism refuses this
>switch to mono-blue
>realize that I really don't wanna do that again for now
>switch to Azorius
>start list
>it looks like this so far
I know I wanted a 4, but man this always looks like this lol
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uoh?
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>>97896068
I kind of want a set of Capcom secret lairs between Devil May Cry or Monster Hunter with a "When something dies turn it into an equipment" theme.
Partly because I think you can print some cool stuff in that field where you're rewarded for "hunting" your opponent's shit. but also because you can print some cool shit in the 99 with all the stuff you kill in those games.
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>>97896092
>"When something dies turn it into an equipment" theme.
We got those glimmers which became enchantments when they died. I don't think turning into equipment would really be that hard to implement mechanically. I was myself hoping for a partner equipment theme but I like this idea of turning creatures into equipment as well.
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>have store credits
>find cheap played rakdos fetchland, rakdos shockland, and rakdos flip land at LGS
>buy it and come home and look through cards for commanders
>mfw kuja is the only rakdos waifu commander
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>>97896098
The middle one I think is fake but is supposed to be from 4th edition. Left most is from ixalan and right most is from iconic masters (both those sets are from 2017).
If you go up a couple posts there’s a picture comparing the corners, I wonder if that would change your opinion at all.
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anons, what's your favorite card? I started playing right after the urza's sets and this card was basically legendary by that point. The art is totally cool, the effect is incredibly powerful, and it's fun to play too.
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>>97895977
>but man this always looks like this lol
Happens when you retread the same deck themes and reuse all of your good staples for said theme. Whenever I build anything new it has to be something I've never played before. Firkraag is my next deck, I have no goad deck, no izzet deck, and no dragon tribal deck. I have very few staples from any other deck I use that transfer over to it. Keeps the experience fresh.
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>>97896103
I think it's an interesting design space that I'd love to see one way or another
>Commander that puts counters on stuff and turns them into equipment when they die, some creatures have very valuable text to steal even if they stop being a creature afterwards.
>Could do a spin on Reconfigure or just bring it back if the templating for having it trigger on death is too much of a hassle.
>Can print stuff in the 99 that could be cool commanders on their own but also function as non-creatures for the commander's intended game plan Mairsil style.
You could of course, shove these ideas into a main set but this feels like something you'd have an easier time designing a precon for.
It's a shame we can't get multifranchise UB sets. Feels like that would solve a lot of problems with some of these sets.
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>>97896129
Good choice. I'm glad I still have my copy. Pic related is mine.
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>>97896129
I really can't put one over the other, I love them both.
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>>97896129
FUCK
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>>97896247
I don't. But I also carry a binder with all the cards I own >20$ that I proxy when I'm playing with new players, and if they complain I re-sleeve the original for the proxy, then win and put the proxy back.
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>>97896022
Make you cry with my own proxies of course
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>edh night
>bring my new deck that's mostly proxies that I'm testing the feel of
>I was looking for a mono-white gimmick deck, landed on picrel
>3 player pod for game 1
>player 2 is using the Felothar precon(defender creatures that swing with their toughness), player 3 is Doran, Besieged by Time, so a shitton of creatures with enormous asses that become even bigger on battle
>luck into being able to play Sephara, Sky's blade(gives other flying creatures indestructible), alongside a gryphon that gives Banding
>I've never actually seen Banding in a game, have to look up what it does mid-game
>opponents have a towering titan and a tree of perdition at power 40, respectively
>reread banding
>realize it allows me to chump block both of them with a single 2/2 gryphon token, thanks to the Banding
Did I read that right? Is Banding that fucking good?I mean, I ended up losing because the Doran player drew into a Rogue's passage so he was able to swing for lethal with his tree of perdition, but...
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I hate using my meme decks against new players because they start moaning and groaning about my tummy spells
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Do any Australians have recommendations for stores that ship to New Zealand?
There's just too many cards that are completely unavailable here, even after waiting months for them to show up anywhere. Though honestly I might just go for Card Kingdom to find the impossible-to-gets since the prices aren't completely awful (somehow even CK doesn't have Hourglass of the Lost though)
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>Bought this just to add to a cart to make free shipping
>Put it into my deck as a lark
>More than pulling its weight every time it comes down
Also, the fact that if I can make it a creature it will pjhase itself out with everything else permanently is hilarious.
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>>97895820
They're all real. There's no such thing as a fake card. If I write Command Tower on a piece of looseleaf and sleeve it and play it the pod understands that I can use it to generate 1 mana of any color in my commander's identity. If I print out a picture of a pornstar with Swords To Ploughshares typed across her ass in 12 Times New Roman and glue it to a bicycle card and sleeve it up and I draw the card and pay 1 white mana and declare a creature as the target the pod understands that that creature is exiled.
There's no such thing as fake cards.
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>>97896323
No you didn't read it right but yes, the reason why they'll never print it again is not because it was complicated to understand but because of how powerful it is on the defense. Since you get to allocate damage, you can choose to allocate any trample damage to the 1/1 you chose to band with. This means that you don't lose your banding creature, chump block all trample damage, and just lose a separate less creature
If you blocked two creatures with one creature, you are cheating though. Banding allows you to block one creature with two(or more) creatures in a band, and you get to allocate damage rather than controlling player.
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Rate my custom commander
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>>97896675
Seems like Yenna but more mana efficient and with a smaller scope. Wouldn't be that interesting to build for it.
How about something like this, which is probably more fitting with the colour identity?
When an aura you control becomes unattached from a permanent, exile it. You may return it to the battlefield at the beginning of your next upkeep.
The idea is that it shifts around the idea of which auras are good, making for a much more exotic deck. Usually, effects that weaken a creature are bad since it's only removal if the creature was already weak, and when buffing a creature a small buff isn't that helpful since if the creature dies then it's just costing you card advantage.
If auras that disappear because the permanent they were attached to was lost can return, then it flips the balance on its head and a card like Stab Wound goes from trash to actually viable; every turn it can pick off a 2-toughness creature and deal the controller 2 damage. So to build a Sofia deck you'd have a bunch of trash buffs and debuffs in play that keep appearing on something else if the creature they're on dies.
However, it's not too oppressive since opponents can still use removal on the enchantments themselves, unlike if it was a simple "on your upkeep bring back all auras from your graveyard".
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Dorf fortress crossover wasn't on my bingo card for 26. Also why the FUCK isn't there a single dorf in it?
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hm hm ok. the general idea was that you'd go wide with auras, things like pacifism on opponents or general buffs on your dudes, with the flavor being that the coven of witches were doing some hocus pocus to make more enchantments. I see where you're going though, specifically recurring auras that already entered instead of just bringing back any old aura
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>>97896778
Tacking one small thing onto this:
When an aura you control becomes unattached from a permanent, exile it. You may return it to the battlefield at the beginning of your next upkeep. *Otherwise, put it in your graveyard.*
Realized it was a bit odd (especially for a black effect) that the cards just stay exiled if you don't return them to the battlefield, and it was vague what happens if you try return them but there's nothing to attach them to.
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Can a rules nerd explain to me how terra magical adept is 5 color? The color identity pip on the backside is gruul? I know she creates double WUBRG but I always thought the identity pip was king. Same with how the MH3 sorin has a Orzhov color identity pip on the planeswalker side?
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Assembly-Worker commander when?
Kaalia but for dragons, drakes, and wurms when?
Legendary gargoyle when?
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>>97896970
the more you sweat in a children's card game the stronger red becomes, which i suppose is appropriate for fire magic
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>>97896923
A mana pip appearing anywhere except reminder text counts towards colour identity.
Even something like Mtenda Lion still counts as a green-blue card despite the blue pip in the rules having nothing to do with the controller.
I do wonder though if it makes sense, having things that aren't mana costs the controller can pay count towards colour identity.
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>>97896937
yes what is so hard to understand that youre not getting through your skull?? a card's "color identity" for commander (a player made format) is based on its mana cost + other card text other than reminder text (this is an example of reminder text in parenthesis), like a colored cost in an activated ability or a type of mana it can produce
this is related to why you cannot put a plains or a forest in a grixis deck (but you could put a misty rainforest or marsh flats in one)
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>>97896330
bracket 2 should be banned. decks that suck that bad shouldn't be played and you should be ashamed of yourself for playing them.
of course a game full of troon groomers, RAN BY faggots and drag queens knows no shame
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HOLY FUCKING BASED
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left one is from an ixalan fat pack, the right one is from an iconic masters pack and the middle I just ordered on eBay supposedly from 4th edition.
the two outside ones I opened from packs the middle one I'd hope is real but its corners look fucked up.
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Let's say, theoretically, I had the opportunity to get an Aetherdrift bundle for cheap, but only really want it for a chance at certain cards I could probably buy for even less. Should I go for it?
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>looking through cards with Squad because I almost forgot to add Sicarian Infiltrator to a pile
>see this
>artifact
>colorless
>squad
>on hit it makes an artifact token
>wasted on TMNT
They really went out of their way making the TMNT cards announce themselves with their names so you can barely avoid the shame of playing one, didn't they? That new 2 drop artifact with the anthem effect AND the clone effect for 5 mana is awesome but it's literally called Chrome Dome.
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>>97897225
Imagine playing this card though
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>>97897271
I was so burned when that came out, as a lover of Trophy, Trinket, Treasure, and Tribute Mages as cheap ETB effect tutors. That shit is horrible. Worst part? Probably the uncommon I pulled the most from Aethershit.
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Like you could, so easily, have just made an In-Universe card like this for Ixalan, Innistrad, Mirrodin, or even make it use that token that Farid uses
>3 drop with 3 cost Squad (upped by 1 mana so it triggers Simulacrum Synthesizer winkwink)
>1/1 deathtouch (the 2 is unnecessary when it's meant to trade up infinitely anyway)
>when it hits face you make Map, Blood, Powerstone, or Scrap token
I mean, look at this thing. 2 drop, anthem effect, colorless, has a mana sink to easily do something stupid infinitely if you make infinite mana. I want to use it SO fucking bad because even the art isn't that bad, but the fact they had to call it Chrome Dome? Why not Chrome Killer? Why not Chrome Ninja? Just anything that isn't so juvenile or stupid (yes, I know the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are literally built on teenage silliness). It's probably one of like 4 cards in the entire set I'd consider using because it's not an ai generated pizza or a dozen of the same turtle card.
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>>97897315
He's an odd named character that isn't a legend. If he were just a generic robot mook they would have picked a different name for him
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>>97897418
Several lesser Avatar and TMNT cards were downgraded from legends despite clearly depicting named characters. Chrome Dome is one of them. Going to guess it's mostly for the sake of limited and standard.
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Had no idea that was a named character, then again I dropped Avatar around the time he went to learn firebending and the rest I've seen through various clips of cool shit like Azula's fights, Mai, Ty Lee, etc. I've had yet another change of heart so I'm trying to make a slightly aggro Esper Urza deck because I realized my Sidar Jabari is straight up using none of my good Esper resources so I can just throw the good shit in here.
I'm sure I'll change my mind in an hour or two. I want to build a new artifact deck but I can't get into the right mindset since I came back from hiatus, and playtests with Golbez haven't felt very good lately so I want to change it. It's a weird struggle I always have since Artifacts are my favorite archetype.
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>>97897518
I like just about every single Urza card, he's my favorite character in lore and the entire concept has always resonated with me. Lord High Artificer is really strong and I love it, Lord Protector and Prince of Kroog are both cool, and Chief Artificer literally produces my favorite token in the game consistently and is built to just keep doing that.
I know Mono-Blue is stronger, and I'm aiming for a 4-5, so maybe it's better to just commit to it and make the strongest one I can while still being viable for more normal play. I just dislike having 50% of my deck be counterspells which is what cedh feels like. I was really hoping for Reality Fracture to have a super fucking sick Grixis or Dimir Urza and a Jeskai/Boros Mishra so they keep their central color (Urza as blue and Mishra as red) but go the opposite ways.
https://archidekt.com/decks/21750031/artifactorio
I have this I just threw together, but like, maybe I should switch back to mono-blue.
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I ain't readin allat but why aren't you just building Breya if you want a bunch of colors and high power? She's a high tier C-EDH commander but you can just play her as thopter spam.
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>>97897547
>She's a high tier C-EDH commander
>check date
>2018 is calling
>the call is coming from inside the thread
She hasn't been relevant in 8 years, dog.
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>>97897559
What are you smoking, retard-kun. She's up there with Tymna/Kraum and actually manages to be a combo machine in the command zone with the ability to straight up kill almost every other viable cedh commander with one of her abilities. Removal is the bane of decks like Kinnan, Kefka, and Stella Lee and there are like 5 viable commanders with more than 4 toughness.
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>4 different colored pips
>2 more mana on top of that
>assuming 0 interaction casting a multicolor artifact/creature spell with built in combo potential
>against 3 other cedh decks that got their commanders out 2-3 turns ago
>can kill 1 commander maybe if it doesn't get stifled
>all for 6 mana
>tapping out to kill a single creature
>in cedh
I'd pact you just to watch you stop being able to play for the entire game. Don't recommend her to anyone ever again.
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>>97897547
Anon she's just not very good. Whatever role you're trying to force her into is done better now.
>I need a resource outlet
Kenrith, Sisay, Thrasios
>I want generic, noncommittal value
Partner, Talion
>I want a combo engine
Kinnan, Magda, Ral
>I want a curve topper
Etali, Tivit
The ability to kill commanders has fallen off hard because people have realized the strongest way to build a deck is when your 99 functions independently (your progress towards a win isn't as telegraphed, harder to disrupt, less committal to cast commander, etc). This isn't even getting into how Breya's cost makes it difficult to find mulligans capable of actually reaching her.
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>>97897792
I'm pissed I haven't used this card before. Fuck Red and all of their nigger wheels and cost cheating.
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>today I will remind them
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>TQ
Blue if only for counterspells
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>>97897819
>futafaggotry
>on /d/
Go check their catalog and be happy we didn't attract one of the hyper expansion /d/orse dicknipple diaperfags.
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>>97897808
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>>97897547
I have a complex with Breya as a whole, but I feel this discussion more or less summed up why I try to avoid her outside of my extreme autism about not knowing how to commit to her properly because she's everything I'd ever want in a commander
>all the colors I want to play (Esper and Grixis but their balls are touching)
>ETB effect
>Artifact
>Sac outlet
>Life gain
>Burn
>Removal
>all in one
She's too great so I get very unfocused and end up with like 400 cards I want to use with her and it never goes anywhere. I have a friend who has to remind me to stop whenever I start pondering the Breya question.
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yeah, at the end of the day if I'm going for something really strong, Esper Urza just isn't gonna cut it. I'm not 100% super confident in my list for Mono-Blue Urza right now, but I'm gonna assemble it later today when I wake up and see how it feels in playtests.
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I fucking LOVE color-hosing.
>>97897847
Extremely based, color-hate is 10/10
tried to work in a small snow thing since I wanted to use Extraplanar Lens really badly.
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>lgs allows people to play commander every day
>doesn't matter if there's a draft happening, standard or whatever else
>strixhaven doesn't have a lot of people signing up, so you can play commander even during the pre-release event
>you can just show up and there's a good chance to find commander players
>one guy keeps annoying me until I give up and start playing 1v1 with him, because he can't wait until more people show up
>40 life
>100 cards
Are there decks that are particularly good at that? I want to obliterate this fool half a dozen times so that he waits for 2 other players to show up instead of asking me to play 1v1.
I imagine mono-red aggro and voltron is particularly good in 1v1. I'm thinking about building a tifa deck just for this asshat
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>t.is so annoying people stomp him to make him fuck off
>>97897989
Don't listen to fagballs anon, some people need to be put in their place. I've found Lurrus and Thrun do very well in 1v1 scenarios.
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>put in a list with my LGS to pull a bunch of cards
>faggot """speculators""" drive cards up to the moon shortly after
>call LGS to cancel the pull, given the bullshit prices
>"nah bro you put your request in before that, so long as you pick them up and pay, you get the price for when you put the order in"
>mfw
Sometimes you actually get good experiences.
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>Ricky retardo
Eminence Emblem - Free to any commander deck. Illegal in bracket 3 and above
Commanders with mana value 4 or less cannot cause players to draw cards, add cards to their hand, add mana, or allow players to cast spells for free or place permanents onto the battlefield
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>>97897225
Faggot, you're playing a fantasy card game where you're pretending to cast lightning bolta and summon unicorns to fight for you. You're already not cool, you have nothing to lose saying "I cast Roadkill Rodney to block Captain America" as opposed to "I use True Love's Kiss on your Sword of Fire and Ice so now the vampire Edgar Markov won't dey cards when he attacks me!"
You anti-UB fags are so stupid. Imagine being worried about lame you're going to look playing Ninja Turtles or Spider Man cards in a game where people are pulling out unicorns and dragons and mermaids and squirrels.
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>>97898466
Turtles are perfect for MTG. I play arena and they have little lore tidbits during queue times when you wait for a match to start. They still show lorwyn crap as well and that is some of the dumbest shit that I've ever read
>Everything is nothing and nothing is everything, lies are true, but the truth is just lies
>Retarded faggot's lament
Wow, that's deep if you're a mongoloid
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any commanders that give an "impending doom" feel?
jhoria seemed cool but i thought she was far too slow and inconsistent
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>>97897533
>https://archidekt.com/decks/21750031/artifactorio
>blue urza in 2026
Loses to basic combat steps. This shit can't protect itself even a little. Urza isn't even a wincon anymore.
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>>97898540
>Bait used to be believable
You tell me retard
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>>97898550
I prefer temu teenage mutant ninja turtles, I mean, MTG ninja turtles.
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>>97898478
>likes urza, a 90s character
>hates transit mage and other modern audience shit
>thinks FF is fine
>but not TMNT
You tell me if that's not a guy that understands that UW hasnt gone to shit but still cant accept that cartoons for young boys are fine in a children's card game
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>>97898589
I think it's fair to not want the slop to be so tonedeaf that it's TMNT. I think the last time he got shit on he rambled about "appropriate UB" and things tonally consistent with Magic's world. Problem is Nosewater doesn't give a shit about that, he just wants his nostalgia in the game. That's why we got TMNT, Spider-man, and the worst offender to me was Brothers' War. A set about the inciting incident of basically the entire game's lore was forced to carry fucking Transformers cards IN THE PACKS. Not separate, not some kind of side product. In the packs. Replacing your mythic or rare slot. Even if it were a bonus slot it's still completely retarded.
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>>97898589
>children's card game
I really hate people like you.
>demographic age means you can just glue everything together and it's fine
Products are liked because of their merits. Advertisements on cardboard lacks Magic's merits, universe, lore, or accessibility since UB is just another Reserve List. I loved Ghost of Tsushima, but the card is now $120. Not really helping out all of those "kids" playing a game with an average playerbase nearing 30 and maybe a quarter of it already pushing 45.
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>>97898617
If tsushima fans can afford a $60+ AAA game that also requires a good pc rig to run then they can afford a $120 piece of cardboard
Also tmnt is at the same age range of 8+ as naruto, a japanese ip that even you will admit is fine for mtg since we have kamigawa 1.0 and 2.0, but ofc tmnt bad because westoids are terminally ironypilled over some anthropomorphic reptiles even though we just had bloomburrow LMAO
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>>97898691
>sentient
>bipedal
>wears clothes
>has a human like society
>noooooo these are just animals not a furfag's dream
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>there were no anthropomorphic animals in bloomburrow
I do think a good chunk of the bloomburrow cast would basically count as Antro anon
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>>97898719
Yeah that's right you better run the nip cartoons are gonna git ya!
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>>97898724
I'm being silly on purpose and do think cruelclaw, many of the otters and squirrels, and some random other ones like vren are anthropmorphic, but the rabbits, mice, and lizards are basically just funny standing animals that can hold sticks.
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oh, right, the bats are also horrific non-mammilian six-limbed freaks.
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No?
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>>97898790
some are.
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>>97898789
Mtg is the exact opposite of pokemon; pokefags wont even bother lying to you that their conflipping is le epic gameplay but somehow the troons will keep insisting mtg has epic lore, par for the course for mentally ill freaks i guess
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>free spells
>cheap tutors
>'bullshit spells' such as cyc rift, necropotency, lim duls
>easy 2 card infinites
I view the above as crutches, it's not hard, expensive or difficult to include free counterspell #4, or tutor for 5th combo or a bullshit card that instantly wins you the game. There's no strategy when half of your non-land cards all do the same generic thing to speed run into combos. I feel like operating around constraints and inconsistency is more fun, less predictable, and more skill based having to actually hedge opportunity costs of holding mana, and digging through your deck with larger draw rather than shortcutting everything with tutors, taking no risks with free counterspells and 'best in slot' staples.
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>>97898938
I run tutors under the principle that my decks NEVER have a one-card "I win" button. Not even a big x spell. They're there for utility or to grab an answer to the situation at-hand.
I'd rather most of that stuff be banned. That being said you sound like a baby.
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>>97898938
what about "free" spells
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>>97898978
>in peace
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You still have to hold 3 mana to cast it, things like mindbreak trap and foil are fine, it’s just the force of will, fierce, force of negation etc
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>>97898997
Wow! Your opponent got a hand that occurs once every blue moon
Just shuffle up and go next nigger, nobody cares that you got btfo once early-game. Imagine letting shit like this live rent free in your head
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What will the card be when WotC ports the Picard facepalm meme into UB Star Trek? Counterspell?
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>>97899014
It's not about a single one, it's the number of.
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>blue moon
>tutors for it
>uses a free counter to protect it on turn 2
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>schizoposting
>>97899045
I don't care about the game changer classification
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>>97899068
99% of decks with Force of Will are better-served running Spell Pierce or pretty much any 1-mana counterspell because a card of specific color is almost always a higher cost than 1 mana when the effect is exclusively reactive. Bitching about any free counterspell but FG is a huge Timmy red flag.
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>>97899150
>bitching about 3+ free counterspells is a huge timmy red flag
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>not a common opening hand
have you ever done the math? 7+2 draws, including mulligan for 1 of 3 tutors, or 1 of 3 counterspells. additionally, the odds of finding the card or variant that doesn't even need to be tutored.
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My boyfriend, Burakos
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No matter what happens. I STAY playing Bill Ferny.
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Whoa MAMA! What the fuck is this?
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>>97893649
You're an idiot.
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black/green/white vehicles commander when
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>>97898496
I didn't realize fatty didn't remove time counters during upkeep, kinda shit
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>>97900173
You already have a black green/white vehicle commander
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Rip And Greasefang WBG
Legendary Creature - Human Rat Pilot Survivor
At the beginning of combat on your turn, if this is tapped, reveal the top four cards of your library and put a vehicle from among them onto the battlefield tapped, crewed, and attacking.
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felothar but aetherdrift, 1wbg
human femboy pilot
Each creature you control with toughness greater than its power saddles Mounts, crews Vehicles and stations permanents using its toughness rather than its power.
Vehicles you control assign combat damage assigns combat damage equal to its toughness rather than its power.
1/4
deathtouch or something I dunno
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>[Hoebag], Dubious Sellsword
>RWB
>Legendary Creature - Human Mercenary
>[Howbag] can't be sacrificed.
>T: Destroy another target creature. That creature's controller makes X treasure tokens, where X was the destroyed creature's power. Then [Hoebag] deals damage to that creature's controller equal to the number of treasures that player controls. That player gain's control of [Hoebag].
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>ban most of the banlist
>bring back the commander tuck rule
>bring back the old legendary rule
>ban UB cards by default
There. I fixed the format.
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>>97900326
This post made me check the anti-ub thread again and I'm just wondering if those anons actually have anything positive to say about MTG at all. I thought the thread would at least be filled with anons talking about the game but all they're doing is saying every in universe set is a hat set and talking about Hasbro's management
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>>97898938
A lot of these problems exist because they can't stop being retarded about the brackets (because Gavin and the dev team are closeted pubstomp faggots who don't want to be put in sweatlords jail). Free spells, generic tutoring, combo faggotry, etc are all spiritually 3+.
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>>97900426
My man, their "general" has a paragraph long warning of seething offtopic pissbabying warning others that we're going to "troll" their gay little clubhouse because anons were baking /edh/ with fun stuff. That entire general was created by a seething pissbaby raging that other people dare to like stuff thatal anon doesn't; is it any wonder it's just a pissbaby containment zone full of negative gaylords fighting over the most inane shit imaginable?
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>>97898496
This dude's pretty fun for that.
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>>97895577
Big Dino bros and always having the mana ramp to cast them, out drawing blue fags with greater good, plus crop rotation veil of summer and autumns veil are fantastic. Also maindeck Taunami as a hedge bet.
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>>97900819
I've played a lot of this variant actually because my friend who used to regularly host game night prefered 5/6 players. though this version changes some things slightly and gets a detail wrong; Usurper kills the king and assumes the throne (king is just dead, no mercy 1 life point) and the Assassin is usually the most complex role as you need to maneuver such that the king dies last, so you often end up acting like a second knight until the very end when you betray the king.
As for how it plays, I like it a lot as long as everyone is playing mid-low power decks, it kind of falls apart when combo is involved. Definitely does the job of speeding up 5-6 player games and its my preferred variant format, a lot more fun than secret partners which is the other major 6 player variant we played.
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>>97901166
Is everyone in Lorehold jacked?
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>Guy doesn't pay attention to the Ur-dragon player and doesn't counter their dragon tempest.
>Windmill slams a counter on another person's rampant growth instead.
>Ur-dragon play is doing Ur-dragon shit and needs the board cleared
>I cast a boardwipe.
>Ur-faggot plays herioc intervention
>"Hey, blue player, you have a counter for that?"
>"Yeah, bro I do. I got swan song here."
>He looks are his board that he left a single white mana up for some reason
>"Haha, my bad bro. I'm so high right now. Completely toasted."
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>>97901287
Tifa with Azusa in the 99 representing her secret lesbian lover.
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>>97901421
I was thinking of upgrading the TMNT precon but I don't know what to upgrade it with this nigga but I don't know for sure yet
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>>97901452
>its human nature, both in woman and men to crave control and power over others.
>this means women think and act exactly like men
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>this poltard wants us to actually think he talks to women
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>>97901486
the only sensible way to make genuine nonpartner 4 color is to make it anti-X, like a dune-brood 2.0 being walking hatestick vs blue
but that isn't even the main issue; unfortunately wotc simply no longer wants to touch blatant color hate
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>>97901494
>hurr durr you can't talk to women like the rest of us
the funniest thing is that you never had any excuse to begin with
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>>97901486
I used to be against functional erratas but after 100+ cards got errata'd to phyrexian and 40+ cards got the new book subtype I truly do not care anymore. Those erratas have way more impact than 5 stinky old creatures ever will. Just errata the nephilim and be done with it.
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>>97901550
yeah a lot of the nephilim were either 3-color with a vestigal 4th or "whatever"
technically dune brood could even just be green, but hazezon was naya years ago, so sand is at least naya.
looking at them again now, under current design at least
glint eye has a UG static and a RB activated. it's simple but it works.
yore tiller would be WBR or non-blue
witch maw is UBR these days
dune brood could be monogreen or naya.
ink treader is now just mono red. if it was made now now it could copy auras and completely justify white and green, but that's not a design space they had figured out at the time.
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>Blue becomes the color of ferocious sea monsters, the unyielding pressure of the ocean, being drowned and overwhelmed by massive tidal waves, and erosion
>Green becomes the color of economic growth; urban sprawl chokes the life out of other colors, money is made, and survival of the fittest is reimagined as social darwinism
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>>97901681
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>>97901697
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>>97896675
white green or black do not have the copy and choose a new target ability even for creature spells. that would be like a red blue green ability
also ward 1 for only 3 mana is a little tough, if a commander only costs 3 you should expect a swords to plowshares or lightning bolt, not to mention flying + 2/4 is kind of a hard ask.
Maybe 1/4 with flying to survive the lightning bolt but for {1}WBG I think flying ward 1 1/4 is fair. but for 3 mana I would think flying, no ward and 1/4, or ward 1 but its only 1/3 or 1/2 even.
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>Any legendary can be a partner, creatured that used to have partner effectively do nothing special now.
>Choosing to partner forces you to only be able to play 2 spells a turn with no way to increase the amount (The strain from you, as the planeswalker having to focus on two commanders)
There. I saved the format.
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It is a good thing and in most pods it will mean increased deck diversity
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>Build Jared Cartalion
>Left the deck mostly the same as the precon but replaced some bad multicolor bombs for even better bombs
>Biggest change I did was proxy out a god mana base.
>Calculate the exact number of rampspells and mana dorks I need to land Jared asap every game
>Almost always have him out turn 3 or 4
>Win a game pretty handily
>Someone gets salty over my proxy ABUR duals
>Bitches that "you don't need" those powerful lands to play my commander
Yeah, no. I'd rather play my commander every chance I can and not be cucked with shitty tap lands.
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>>97901858
I too like to play my commander Rograkh every chance I can and not be cucked by shitty taplands or timmy archetypes
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>>97901939
If taplands are just as good, then there is no argument against ABURs. The fact of the matter is: Taplands fucking suck and nothing sucks worse than not being able to play on curve because a shitty checkland or some other bullshit.
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>>97901858
They're kind of right. Shocks do the same job and 5c mana fixing is insanely easy these days. I keep pic related in my mono green kona to wax greedy 3c+ players who fill their decks to the gills with nonbasics.
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Nah, I run 37 lands. 10 shocks, 10 ABURs, 2 of ever basic except for Swamp and Forest where I have once of each but run urborg/Yavimaya, then I run Seven fetch lands that search my forest and forest adjacent lands. I make sure I run enough basics for my rampant growths and cultivates to have a target and because this dude puts in major work when I land him turn 2 or 3.
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>>97901948
The fact of the matter is: Breach Thoracle is the best and nothing sucks worse than people telling me I shouldnt be so shameless while they themselves use ABUR duals that they can never afford just to play shitty wincons
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>>97902211
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>>97902233
exactly
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What are some good cards for this vibe? Just B2 breena and chill
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>>97902228
I tried playing Breena. Nobody gave a shit about the incentives and as soon as I started actually getting to drop counters they immediately arch enemied me.
Politics doesn't work in this game unless the card FORCES people to fuck with each other, like goad or pic related effects. Even then all you wind up doing is making yourself the focus since taking away player's agency is the surest way to paint a target on your back.
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>>97902047
the alpha beta duals dont even matter in commander because they functionally reprinted them with the shit like Morphic Pool, Luxury Suite, Spire Gardens
I still run a (real, French white border that I bought in 2009 for $25) Bayou in ADDITION to Underground stadium but you dont need the real duals unless youre really solid in green fetching a bunch.
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>>97902305
The trouble I've found with Breena in particular, as someone who has played against her a handful of times, is that her text is just hard enough to read that my eyes glaze over and my mind tells me "kill this guy he's trying to do some sneaky shit". Something something draw cards, I don't care.