>>97899223
>Do you like the current state of Necron lore
No, I can't say I care one whit for any kind of lore, beyond what little bits I make for my games.

>>97899223
I stopped paying attention to 4ok lore after they introduced primaris, and the few bits I've heard since then only vindicated my decision.

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What is the current state of Necron lore and tabletop?

>>97899223
the amount of power the old Necrontyr were supposed to have always confused me
Like, they had to have a reason to believe they can take on the psychic frogs, right? But then the floor gets wiped with them? But then they find the c'tan/get the robo treatment, and that's a perfect equalizer? Just how many worlds did they hold before finding the c'tan? And why were the old ones so autistic when dealing with them?
But generally I find Necrons very cool

People who defend nucrons because of the Reddit and the divine shouldn’t be allowed to breath

>>97899223
Yes, when they humiliate fagos.

>>97899849
>if I cry about reddit, my point is correct

>>97899576
Nucrons are still nucrons, latest thing is that they caved in to people complaining about oldcrons AGAIN and made yet another faction, this time it's a faction of destroyers who are the silent killer serving the nightbringer like the oldcrons, who only have one named character which means as long as he gets away they can be a jobber faction to lose decisively to the ultramarines every single time they show up because szarekh and imotekh and all the important necrons aren't affected by them losing

on tabletop they no longer have any form of identity and you can run them as literally anything

>>97899223
It’s ok but the pre-rewrite necrons were much more menacing

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>>97899223
Post your minis (you wont)

People who cry for midcrons because of Dawn of War are brown and shouldn't be allowed to post.

>imotekh
You can't make a more retarded and cringe name. It's just impossible. It's on par with el'miyamoto.
How can someone be so retarded beyond any salvation to write something like that.

>>97902208
>DoW
>Midcrons
???

>>97899248
>>97899531
>heh, not only is my answer NO, but I completely reject the premise upon which the question is founded!
stimulating discussion as always on four chan dot org slash tee gee

Lorewise, they received heavy nerfs to their power in the lore. The Silent King is being played like a fiddle by Vashtorr, and Imotekh has his number. The Pariah Nexus project is crumbling

The Necron are effectively out of the race for the galaxy bowl. For the first time since forever the three great threats are Chaos, Tyranids and Orks.

>>97902041
Oldcrons never went away

>>97902255
They were never really a contender. They were always the POTENTIAL MAN faction even from the start.

>>97902304
I know we had severed but most people (and probably GW) seem to forgot they existed so GW went and made NEW new oldcrons

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If you look at current versions of this piece the motherfuckers have fucking shooped in dynastic markers on the warrior shoulders

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>>97902394

>>97899641
Not everything needs to be explained you fucking autist

>>97899223
>lore
Im not the biggest fan, but I get why they did it. I think it would have been better if they went the tyranid route and just gave them names that are imperial descriptions and have the C'tan be the named HQs. Just say
>The Necrons managed to shatter the C'tan but lost anyway, and now the lesser C'tan are searching the galaxy to regain their missing shards, with only the rogue Triarch Praetorians and eldar standing in their way. The ones who aren't under C'tan control are just following old sub routines of extermination that not even they understand
It would have kept the menace to them and you could have made sense for mirror matches (Each C'tan wants to be the only one)
As they are now they dont feel Alien or tragic, more like temporarily inconvinced humans in robot bodies. Some characters like Trayzyn and Zahndrekh I like in an objective sense, but they're too wacky and dont fit 40k at all. Tomb kings worked for fantasy but not every fantasy race translates well into space and Necrons are the perfect example of that.
>Tabletop
They're fine. I like having other vehicles beyond the destroyers. I just hate that they've gone "everything is a canoptek BUT BIGGER or a monolith BUT BIGGER" with them, I wish they leaned into the Alien floating geometry more.

>>97902483
yeah, but if an aspect of your world appears wildly inconsistent, that just becomes distracting

>>97902514
>I think it would have been better if they went the tyranid route and just gave them names that are imperial descriptions
they did that for oldcrons and i fucking hated it with how over the top edgy grimderp they were
>necron lord of nekrotothep THE HARBINGER OF SILENT DARKNESS
>necron lord of thanakhmun THE HERALD OF THE COMING STORM
>necron lord of azraetekh THE DARK MESSENGER OF DEATH DARKNESS

>>97902514
>and now the lesser C'tan are searching the galaxy to regain their missing shards,
Already happening
>with only the rogue Triarch Praetorians and eldar standing in their way.
BASICALLY what's happening because most of the necrons just treat the shards like pokemon not caring that they could merge together and fuck them over again
>The ones who aren't under C'tan control are just following old sub routines of extermination that not even they understand
We just got ones basically under C'tan (nightbringer) control with the 500 worlds Nekrosor destroyer faction, and Severed are still there

All of that's actually already present, just alongside the goofy trollzyn don quijote dad's army black adder shit

>>97899223
No
I fucking hate the Silent King, boring ass model and gay lore
I hate what they've changed the C'tan to
the only good named Overlord is Anrakyr

>>97899223
I didn't used to, but The Infinite & The Divine made me a believer in the nu-Necron hotness

No, they peaked in 3rd edition

Everything they changed or added objectively sucks

The only new unit designs I like looking at are the Reanimators and to a lesser degree Doomstalkers

Mechanically they could have used an additional option beside disruption field. Would have loved Lords getting a wraith body option in war gear, and getting the third star god Void Dragon

Perfect faction with great lore, gameplay and aesthetic

One tiny qualm that I didn’t personally have but a lot of people found jarring was the Phase Out mechanic, which could have been made optional with a negative point multiplier

>>97902616
*No Phase Out but units cost 1.25x points
I personally loved Phase Out, games take way too long anyway

>>97902514
>too wacky and dont fit 40k at all
>too wacky
>for the setting with orks and IG commissars
You don't like 40k.

>>97902394
>>97902397
it always looked like that
its just necron runes

>>97902638
nice try, gaslight-anon

>>97902638
>>97902720

Which of these is the before and after?

>>97902563
Did they? I've never seen them. Were they official or from white dwarf battle reports?
>>97902628
There's a difference between characters and factions in thr setting that are funny to us, and then characters in the setting that dont take it seriously at all. You have Trayzyn basically winking at the camera constantly and Zahndrekh who isn't even a Necron, he feels like an old human in a robot body. Characters like that ruin my immersion because they feel like they should be in a light hearted cartoon and
Quasi serious Dark sci-fi setting.

>>97899223
they keep going on about the pariah nexus which is nearing on 3 editions ago

>>97902243
OP asked a question and we answered.
Quit crying, faggot.

>>97902941
>sci-fi setting
I don't see what distinguishes it from fantasy.

i dont really mind one way or another as long as necrons are still badass skeleton robots with cool green lights and shit
that's the sole reason i like them

>>97902235
Chaos androids were a thing and early necrons appeared in second edition.

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Unfortunately Games Workshop only cares about retarded tranny characters:
-Trazyn
-Szarekh
-Imotekh

and nobody cares about these fucking retards.
Szeras, Zandrekh, Obyron, and even Anrakyr are more interesting.
>we need to connect the Necron story to the (((main character faction))) of the Imperium!
>Better use Trazyn again!
you fucking MONGOLOIDS you had an entire storyline with the Pariah gene and the Blanks to work with, you fucking MONGOLOIDS could use Szeras to reintroduce that in a heartbeat, everyone liked the Pariah you fucking MONGOLOIDS
>no let's have the meme collector GAY necron help out the humans instead!

...also these fucking RETARDS at Games Workshop spent the entire woke age releasing disgusting female models nobody gave a shit about to gather as much dust as possible on store shelves, and never even considered a model for Xun'bakyr Mother of Oblivion.

For 20 fucking years people have been converting a NECRON LADY but GW was too busy sculpting ugly piece of shit dykes and never realized.

>>97899641
>Like, they had to have a reason to believe they can take on the psychic frogs, right?
Wrong, they were all going to die horribly of radiation poisoning and their civilization was pretty much doomed in the long run, so even if it's suicide why not take a chance on attacking the frogs?

>>97903323
>Games Workshop (...) cares about
>-Szarekh
You mean the guy who's like on one entire page of the book literally named after him, where he does nothing?
>-Imotekh
the guy with no books and barely any lore?

>>97902941
>Were they official or
Some BL stories used that sort of naming convention as well as White Dwarf and Forgeworld shit
It was all heralds and harbingers of annihilation and doom and destruction

>>97902232
Anon we're talking about a franchise that literally called the leader of a group called "Iron Hands" Ironus Handus, except in Latin

>>97903323
You forgots Crawls necron gf

>>97899223
>lore
it's fine
>tabletop
Warriors are too weak nowadays. Gauss flayers should be stronger, and Warriors should be tougher and more expensive. Immortals feel like what Warriors should be.

>>97899223
I don't care about Necrons in the slightest so all my lore knowledge is just DoW. Also I don't play 40k.

>>97899223
How different are they from their depiction in dark crusade? That game is my sum total knowledge of the necrons

>>97904044
Necrons back then:
>Unfathomably ancient, mindless machines who woke up from their slumber to eradicate all life in the galaxy
>They serve the C'tan. a pantheon of horrible soul eating eldritch star gods who tricked them into becoming what they are.
>Pretty much more of an unstoppable force of death, destruction and existential horror than a sentient xeno race
Necron now (well, since a good while actually, the retconn was I think over a decade ago):
>Only the basic soldiers are mindless, higher-ups mostly kept their free will and personalities, although for many of them aeons of slumber degenerated their minds somewhat
>No longer slaves of C'tan, they rebelled against them before the great sleep, shattered them and made the gods into their enslaved weapons/power sources
>They largely don't care about wiping out life any more, now they focus on rebuilding their Empire (which usually means killing whatever younger race inhabits their former planet now) or on pursuing personal projects/agendas/grudges of their various dynasty leaders (half of which are now batshit insane)
>They also apparently have absurdly advanced tech that could easily break the entire setting in hundred of different ways, but they don't use it very much because reasons (I think this got dialled down somewhat in recent years fortunately)

>>97899223
No. Post 5th Necrons suck.

>>97899223
Yes. I loathed the C'Tan-Wank and am relieved that they got the faction away from those boring arseholes and into the hands of interesting characters.