Lizard men are a pretty cool theme and widely represented in popular culture.

Chaos votaan as a single unit would be kinda cool. The others do not need to exist as armies in 40k.

I like orks :D

>>97900482
Vashtorr will ascend to GODhood in 11e
Perty will be his daemon prince and Iron Warriors will get a range that encompasses dark mech, including chaos votann

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>TQ
Gargants, at least for chaos knights. A giant fuck off servitor that’s being put to work would be cool.

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>Beastmen
already an army

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someone asked last thread for a pic of my dolls

>>97900507
Ive seen what your men do to prisoners of War...

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>>97900505
B-b-based

>>97900471
>TQ
Vampire Counts
And no, Drukhari are not a good equivalent

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Let Chaos idols take this thread!

>>97900471
>TQ
Tau should try to gather the entire animal kingdom around, so I’d say space lizardmen should be represented as an auxiliary which would mean we would have birds, reptiles, insects, and fish

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>>97900471
Fuck Fantasy. Make Goblins already a thing. Red Gobbo leading to freedom.

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>>97900507
Goddamn vostroyans look good in mass. My lgs has a drawer full of old beat up ones. Hopefully in a decade or so if we haven’t all killed eachother and Putin is comfortably dead things will chill out enough that russiabad thinking fades enough to let them get a refresh.

>>97900507
I can't believe these guys are losing to a single moon's worth of Orks with looted Tau drones.

>>97900517
I feel like admech or agents are better for that.

>>97900531
>trap cool lizards under blueberries
classic shit tau idea lol

>>97900517
Sounds gay and I'm not shitposting. Tbf any "fantasy race but in spaaaace" is lazy so this tq is a bit of a trap, but how would "vampires in spaaaaaace" even be distinct to all the other horrors belumping around the dark of 40K? GSC already do the whole secret infiltration of society and turning of normal humans shtick.

>>97900535
I think this is the first time I’ve seen sally anon share something resembling an acknowledgment towards politics in this general.

>>97900552
Naw he admitted to being a limp wristed subhuman commie a while back.

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>>97900535
Don't worry, Planet Vostroya will be destroyed and the models will be refreshed as coming from its sister world Kysliv, where their colors are blue and gold and they maintain the same military disposition. Only now they have ice magic and bears everywhere.

>>97900471
>What Warhammer Fantasy army would you like to see added to 40k?
Sylvaneth. Cool ghosts and big bugs and treemen add a lot to the wood elf aesthetic.
I'd say Kharadons but that's essentially what Votann are already.

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realistically what stops the imperium from strapping perturabo to a magnet car and sending him back to the warp

Catachans and Vostroyans should come ASAP.

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A WIP in the style of the collage, I didn't like all the shitting on the wolves so I made a Dark Wolf chaos lord sacrificing a Space Wolf to an altar of Khorne. Made using jakhals, havocs, intercessor bits, the battlefield trophies box and kill team nemesis. Also though about acquiring a Wolf Priest to get the skull wolf head since it's very kino and space barbarian pilled. I should have bought that 180 dollar space wolf battleforce I saw last year.

>>97900494
Like that one guy who modeled mechanicus giant mutants that went rogue.

>>97900557
>limp wristed subhuman commie
Americans baka... What's the most red white an' blue blooded capitalist shitheap of a faction?

>>97900471
How crazy would be a Death focused whole front of factions in 40k? Starting with Necrons

>>97900535
>>97900507
>"a drawer of them"
For sale or just there laying around?

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Thinking of buying my first minis but is $60 a justifiable price for a tactical squad?

>>97900576
Go ahead champ!

>>97900576
Yes

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>>97900576
I'd pick something else dude

>>97900574
Just laying around. The owner’s been in the hobby since before I was an itch in my dad’s balls. I’ll try and grab a pic next time I’m in. They’re pretty busted up. I’m sure if I asked he’d sell them to me.

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>>97900576
>manlet marines

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>>97900559
I wouldn't mind vostroyan rough riders having a scifi bear to ride

>>97900560
I wanted to argue because fuck age of smegmar, but then I thought about it and some plant-based xenos would be really unique.

>>97900576
oh no no no no

>>97900560
>>97900594
Probably the only correct and acceptable answer. Idoneth can look cool too but don't know how well they'd fit

>>97900601
>Idoneth
>Sylvaneth
>before Lizards or Skavens
Elf fags really are the worst.

>>97900583
like?

>>97900594
>>97900560
Yeah, that's what 40k need. An influx of Human Domestication Guide fags. Because furries weren't enough

>>97900601
Idoneth are basically Dark Eldar. And by basically I mean that you can literally just have a Cabal obsessed with seas aesthetics and they will fit perfectly

>>97900604
Old ones are a no no for some reason and skaven would make the magic in 40k disappear.

>>97900604
Dipshit, lizzads in space is done before and boring (also, tarellians?) and they're attempted skaven in space with prude before realising that was a shit idea, nids already do their job and changed them. Sylvaneth and idoneth are much more interesting and unique concepts.

>>97900604
>furfag thinking he's better than anyone
lmao

>>97900576
no

>>97900620
>they're attempted skaven in space with prude
Jfc they* attempted with hrud*

It took just under a day for the fucking rules lawyers to figure out a way to make the new Combat rules allow you to make it impossible to charge a unit if you zipper two units together in such a way you can't base the back unit but also can't end outside of their 2" engagement range.

Battle Sister Squad, yea no nay for first kit?

>>97900576
No and all the people saying go for it are lying to you

1) tactical squad will probably be replaced with a primaris-sized tactical squad in 11th, I would not buy this (the last Firstborn squad) unless you're collecting firstborn in order to play something like 5th edition with your friends like a 30yo boomer.

2) the Armageddon box set is coming out soon enough/next two months. Getting that would be about 1000 points of space marines, the price is expected to be about 260~ bucks but you can split the cost with a friend who wants orks, or just sell the orks online the first week or so because people will be initially overpaying to get their hands on new ork models (don't wait too long because prices for xenos stuff will normalize as demand for SM stuff is greater)

3) Combat Patrols have taken hits recently and the Space marine generic one is kind of shit but are usually a better introduction to the hobby as it costs about 144 bucks on Ebay and 175 from GW stores (WARHAMMER STORES ARE OVERPRICED)

4) don't buy directly from GW they are overpriced. Third parties such as lgses and even amazon/ebay usually have 15-25% discounts, it's like buying toys from FAO Schwartz for 20 bucks when you can get the same toy for 10 bucks from target.

5) https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dawn-of-war-onslaught-games-workshop/1147217925
https://www.target.com/p/games-workshop-dawn-of-war-onslaught-board-game/-/A-94739548

Keep an eye out for this box, currently out of stock, but is randomly restocked. You can get like 150 dollars of miniatures for 50 bucks and will save you time and money.

>>97900604
Idoneth, Sylvaneth, and Lizards can all theoretically be combined thematically into an Exodites release. Or a Slanni one...

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>>97900609
Wut. If they did add Tree Elves it would be under a leader like Tree Hitler Drycha.

>>97900604
Idoneth is one of the only cool 'native' Sigmar things, Lizards and Rats are fantasy armies.

>>97900609
>hears about the idea of humanoid plants being in 40k
>first thought is about the humans fucking the plants
bro, go outside

>>97900645
You wouldn’t fuck a plant? It’d be a win win.

>>97900629
>you can't base the back
You don't need to end in base contact when charging in 11"

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>Imperial fists
>Iron hands
>Blood Angels
>Space Wolves

How do we get these chapters relevant enough to be worthy of having their own codex?

>>97900653
I mean… I 100% would if it was sapient and down for it, but it just wasn’t the first thought that came to my mind when hearing about talking plants in 40K.

>>97900657
all space marines should be under the same codex

>>97900638
Human Domestication Guide is a fetish porn fanbase where plant aliens have conquered Earth and spend their time domesticating humans. There are threads on /trash/. I don't want them anywhere near 40k.

Official app's update is up (16 days behind newrecruit)(every defiler uses the same IW image)

>>97900668
and all chaos cults
and all ig soldiers
but think about investors, faggot-kun.

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>>97900664
Reminder: there are sapient plants in 40k, but they look like the things in the bottom right of this image. NOT elf spirits with tits like >>97900638

>>97900679
I think about investors getting sent to the gallows pretty often

>>97900657
We don't. Abolish separate codexes for marine chapters, put them all back in the one book like they always should have stayed

>>97900687
Except Space Wolves have always had their own codex ever since codexes were a thing.

>>97900673
NTA but the fact you know of this and it was your first thought as a reaction to sylvaneth in space is an indicator to go outside for a day

>>97900690
furry containment has always been and will always be

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>>97900471
>>97900533
i second this anon, gretching revolutionary commitee is the way.

>>97900696
Going outside would not remove my knowledge of that. What has seen cannot be unseen.

>>97900690
Huh, so they've always been lame and for raging homos

>>97900704
Then go fellate a shotgun and don't come back until you've had an explosive epiphany.

In an ideal world the game would be a narrative simulationist game and the only codexes would be Chaos, Imperium, Eldar, Orks, Tyranids, Necrons, and Mercenaries, but this is not an ideal world.

>>97900681
I rather have the mech plant lady thank you. Plant cohabitation looks like a choice if they all look like that.

>>97900713
>The Imperium codex end up having a real life kill count because of the times it fell on a pet or a small kid

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daemons at khaine's gate be like

>>97900713
What about Votann?

>>97900681
Tree revenants are sick thoughbeit

>>97900717
Not really, I think if we're doing a total rewriting of history you could easily get imperium down to like 80ish units without losing anything important.

>>97900723
Let me guess, you're one of the very vocal anti-guard peeps too?

>>97900725
stop ban evading

>>97900727
I'm not him, orbiter just threw that word in cause it's funny to bring up

can someone explain this "ban evading" meme to me??

>>97900733
a particular space wolves poster is banned for life but always evades his ban

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>>97900733
Nah

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>>97900713
But I like the T'au.

>>97900681
I’m such an incel chud I’d go with anything at this point. get me some of that trussy.

>>97900657
two of those literally have their own codexes.

>>97900657
Squat the blood angels for real

>>97900762
>worthy of having

>love black templars
>hate painting black templars
Why

>>97900762
Reading comprehension nigga~

>>97900778
anything with white is aids to paint

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>>97900634
But I want my first minis to be firstborn/s and paint them malevolent

>>97900783
skill issue

>>97900784
have you tried time traveling to 2015?

>>97900784
okay

Well whatever makes you happy, though the same box is available on Amazon for 51 dollars. You will also need to learn how to paint yellow.

>>97900788
true

>>97900471
Why do people like Oldcrons over Newcrons? Oldcrons had no personalities or goals except to be another galaxy-wide existential threat when we already had Chaos and the Tyranids

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>>97900657
Just write more stuff about the Iron Hands having an established Rivalry with the Emperors Children and really really wanting to kill them all and then have them being tsundere for Salamanders and Raven Guard. The Iron Hands should actually just be really good at fighting Slaanesh, but I think their only notable lore blurb involving Slaanesh is their obsession with purging themselves of sensation or pleasure crippling their ability to fight daemonettes.

>>97900803
Because Oldcrons were what was presented in Dawn of War.

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WIP check?

>>97900811
And that's a good thing

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>>97900823
He's getting there. Gotta clean up a few spots etc.
>Brotherhood Champion that specializes in killing corrupt marines

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>>97900823
your dude looks sick, and I really like the little burn hole you made in the wolf helmet, what chapter is he?
also I haven’t made much in the way of progress lately because I’ve had a busy week, but my boyz are still nearly finished, and then I can paint the individual bits on the table.

>>97900576
get them from a retailer with a discount

Chaos Marine fag from /m/ here, I know I'm late to this discussion, but why the hell are Mutilators 200 points for 3? I could get 180, but are they really beyond the level of a winged prince/just under a land raider?

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For the average human, living under Tau rule would be an objective upgrade in living standards, rights and general quality of life! The Tau treat humans living in their empire better than the imperium of "man" treats it's subjects!

>Iron Hand companies actually function like independent, self sufficient armies
Oh, good, I always found that made more sense than the cod-
>But each company is actually exactly like a standard company in a codex compliant chapter, there's just no promotion system
>Unless you're 1st company. But that's actually a bad thing because the Avernii let Ferrus die.
THAT JUST MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE

>>97900862
It'd be a fun side story if the T'au propped up some random Psyker kid as being the Starchild/Emperor. I miss the Inquisition vs Sensei plotline.

>>97900860
While I'm here I got only 320 points left before hitting the 2000 ceiling and I'm wondering what to get to round off my Undivided army:

>Chaos Predator
>Sorcerer
>Dark Apostle
>Maulerfiend
>Possessed squad
>Non-winged Prince
>Vashtor
>Defiler
>Helbrute

Current army is pretty short led by a Termi Sorerer.

>>97900878
need some grunts, legionaries etc

>>97900881
I got those down pat.

>>97900803
Edgelords and nostalgia.

>>97900875
Didn;t they think the first space marine they encountered was the emperor

>>97900878
wait is that the list of options?
Not you posting your army?
how are we supposed to suggest anything if we dont know what you have?

>>97900862
xeno propaganda, I've got news for you princess, there is no such a thing as good or bad, right or wrong, life is like a parasyte upon the face of the universe it only perpetuates by any means neccesary and only uses vessels such as you to do so, there is no you you're just a bunch of electrical impulses trapped within an cluster of living cells. The universe doesn't care you nor me it's only chaos.

>>97900887
At work atm

>>97900886
Nah, they thought the first Slaaneshi Chaos Lord they fought was Slaanesh.

>>97900878
Maulerfiend because they're cool, doesn't matter what else you have, you should get a dog. He will eat tanks for you.

>>97900862
I know people joke about it a lot but something about the way this guy drew the T'au nose slit on this particular piece is just very... suspicious.

>>97900875
If it's just some tidbit in the codex about a random world:
>rally tons of humans around him
>kid loses control and bursts into daemons
>all the followers become Chaos cultists
>entire sept lost and the Ethereals take psykers more seriously
If it's an important, detailed campaign:
>Tau have actually mastered psychic disciplines through the Greater Good and psykers in the empire are (in fluff) immune to the perils of the Warp while also adopting teachings from different cultures and races to expand their skill and knowledge

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>>97900823
WIP on this ranger and his backpack

>>97900888
Wew talked like a true edgelord puppet... Really fitting Perturabo faggot.

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>>97900888

i kinda want to start collecting orks, but i want to know

what kits do you think are in danger of dissapearing?

i want to know which i should get first in case they dissapear forever. i care more about models than i do about rules by a country mile, and i would be sad about missing out on some models forever like i did the old shushing snikrot.

i know an ork refresh is likely coming up, so which kits do i focus on first so i dont miss them forever?

>>97900823
>>97900843
Both of these look terrible

>>97900907
It is what it is faggot xeno worshipper, there is only chaos but amidst all that chaos there also is my will and it stands with the emperor and his dream not with the imperium nor any of it's regents.

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The only faction that understands 40k universe. Period.

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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>97900921
That's just the Imperium but bug themed

>>97900921
Tyranid vanguard?

>>97900916
>t.seething decalnigger
also stop ban evading, faggot

Real freak show hours right now

Knightfaggots.

I played (and got stomped) by a knight army the other day.
My opponent, despite being in engagement range of troops, fired his blast weapon at another target across the board. As far as I remember, you cannot fire blast weapons when in combat.
Is this some knight rules shit or did they cheat?

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>>97900657
>IF
Squat the custodes. Have them go full traitor over "le grater good" and make the fists the new defenders of terra. Because they actually do their jobs.
>SW
Bring about actual consequences for being pseudo heretics. Oh you want to worship your fenrisian world spirits? ok. Now you have to fight wolf deamons. Make them have to choose between Terra or Fenris.
>BA
Have guilliman go crazy with power and make the BA be the driving force for the opposite side in the civil war. Loyalists in name vs loyalists at heart.
>IH
Make them the goto kitbash faction for space marines. Make it a big deal that they give no fucks about "le purity of humanity" and make it so they can field any wacky cybernetics you can imagine. DON'T have them get all reflective and emotional like the redditors want. DOUBLE DOWN on the insanity because insanity and mental illness is what makes factions entertaining.

>>97900823
The Greenstuff I used has yet to fully cure, but I'll probably start priming and painting tomorrow with luck. Excited for my first collage entry.

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>>97900848
Homebrew CSM :)

>>97900941
https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/the-rules/core-rules/#Big-Guns-Never-Tire

He was supposed to shoot the units he's engaged with only. Blast weapons are stopped unless it's like a solo vindicator or leman russ demolisher that has a rule that lets them.

>>97900943
>Reddit Piece

>>97900941
Look up “Big guns never tire” rule

>>97900949
Do knights have miniguns? They look dope here, also I didn’t know they could bend their legs. Looks dope.

>>97900958
CK get a minigun, but I made that one out of 3 Helverin autocannons.

>>97900952
??? Completely wrong, you can shoot whoever you want, you don't need to shoot whoever you're engaged with. The only restriction is that you can't shoot an enemy you're engaged with with blast weapons.

>>97900943
>Have guilliman go crazy with power
There's a lot of dumb takes in this post but this is truly the most flawed and shows off a tertiary level understanding of the lore. Please never post lore discussion again

>>97900941
Vehicles and monsters can shoot anything when engaged by an enemy unit, but they can't use blast weapons on units within engagement range.

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>>97900941
He was right
>t.ProfessionalKnightsPlayer

>>97900914
boyz and any models that use the boyz as a frame, so burna boyz and lootas are also included. weirdboy, warboss with attack squig, and grots are in the starter box, so they’ll likely also be gone. nobz, and nob warbikers are also likely on their way out soon because they’re really outdated, but that’s not an immediate concern. another one that’s just a feeling on my part, but the big ‘ed boss bunka is pretty unpopular, and I figure it’ll go to legends soon.

>>97900941
If they have more than one ranged weapon, they can target stuff not in engagement range and it's only targets that ARE within engagement range that blast weapons cannot target. So I don't think so.

>>97900978
>Professional
>Player

>>97900978
I wouldn't trust someone banned from their LGS

>>97900978
Vomit frog . Gif
>

>>97900988
>>97900989
Can we see your Knights?

>>97900978
>Professional
You get paid to play 40K? Where, how, by who?

>>97900978
>only ever plays with one "person"
>professional
heh

MODS!
RANGEBAN THE DECALFAG!
AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

>>97900895
Alright, thanks. Now that leaves only 185 points to spend.

>Dante, you and the Blood Angels must be the stewards of the dark half of the galaxy
>Also, you have to come back to Armageddon in force (don't worry about defending the other half of the galaxy)
retards

>>97901006
Without knowing anything about your army, I just know that possessed are really good in CSM. Ideally led by a master of possessions.

>>97900925
In your anus?

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>>97900978
>Professional
>Child miniature game

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>>97900967
You need to re-read it, I made it easier. I spent time so you don't have to.

>>97901005
Enjoy your vacation scumbag

>>97901016
Please answer, Mr ProfessionalKnightsPlayer >>97900993

Pick 3 factions
>Fix the lore of one
>Fix the rules of one
>Fix the models of one

>>97900978
please refer to:
>>97901015
You've been knighting wrong. The exception is only for being able to shoot into your own melee. Which blocks blast weapons without a special rule.

>>97901028
It was just a figure of speech

>>97901015
Big guns never tire doesn't say the vehicle/monster must shoot the unit they're in engagement range of, only that they can.

>>97901015
No, you need to re-read it. "Monster and vehicle units are eligible to shoot in their controlling player's shooting phase even while they are within engagement range of one or more enemy units." Full stop. You can shoot in your shooting phase even when engaged. No mention of shooting against units within engagement range, you can just shoot. And the thing about blast weapons only says you can't shoot against engaged units, nothing about shooting non-engaged units. You're straight up wrong.
Look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cyX4iTStRA

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>>97900978

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SMfags and non-SMfags what Loyalist chapters would (You) keep and what chapters would (You) squat?

>keep
ultras
salamanders
dark angels
white scars
raven guard

>squat
iron hands
space wolves
blood angels
imperial fists

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>>97901015
incorrect

>>97901010
Off the top of my head: 10 legionnaires, 5 havocs, 5 raptors, 3 bikers, 2 obliterators, 1 venomcrawler, 5 terminators, 1 warpsmith, 1 terminator sorcerer, 1 rhino, 1 vindicator, and 1 land raider.

No I don't know the exact weapons off the top of my head, no marks atm, and I already have a big army of chaos daemons (all pre-2017 models) including 2 chaos spawn if I need to draw from those.

>>97901059
Forgot to include 5 chosen

>>97901055
>Keep
All successor chapters
>Squat
All first founding chapters

>>97901059
Yeah you should get some possessed, they're great. Also warp talons are cool, I just like them personally, but you already have raptors.

>>97901035
You’re literally clueless, can I see your Knights please?

>>97901055
Squat them all, 10k years later all first foudnings should have died out

>>97901037
Nah, it was blatant misuse of a word that shows a school level comprehension of english

>>97901015
Stuff like this is why I think they never had to remove vehicle facings, the scatter die, templates, etc. The current edition still has tons of stuff to argue over.

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>>97900978

>>97901055
Why would you squat 2 of the most popular chapters in the game?

>>97901055
I pretty much agree with you but if i have to choose one and one for example
MUST KEEP
Dark Angels

MUST SQUAT
Space Wolves
I think is an improvement for 40k

>>97901031
>Fix the lore of one
I like the Grey Knight aesthetic outside of dreadknights but they're huge snowflakes and they're terrible for creating "Your Dudes" So I'd change the lore to just make it Deathwatch but for more customizable cross chapter Brotherhoods of Librarians for fighting other Psykers, Daemons and generally venturing into the Warp for shenanigans.

there is any sense in keeping white scars? seriously asking.

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>>97900978

>>97901090
Mongols are cool

>>97901083
That's not at all debatable unless you're esl or a complete retard

>>97901031
>Fix Lore
Whole Eldar factions
>Fix rules
Imperial agents, is a disgrace
>Fix the models
Dark Eldar obviously

>>97901090
Dont scars start off as red and then fade to a skin tone shade over time?

>>97901096
Likewise, things like templates, scatter die, and vehicle facings were easily debateable unless you're a complete argumentative retard.

>>97901090
fast as fuck mounted mongols are rad

>>97901093
in this future sci fi opera? i dont think so..

>>97901090
they’re already a first founding chapter, so there’s no getting rid of them.

Space Wolves could be erased tomorrow and no one but a bunch of furry assholes would bat an eye.

If all the space marines fought all the Imperial Guard on one planet, who wins?

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>>97901103
nah

>>97901110
true. literally no one like space wolves

>>97901114
IG and its not even close

Whats the point of the beak in MKV armor?

>>97901114
I'm not sure all the IG could fit on one planet.

>>97901114
Reddit tier vague question. All marines and all guard in the whole universe? They wouldn't even fit on one planet

>>97901118
Google is free

>>97901114
Space Marines fag, Which faction you think the protagonist of this setting?

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>>97901118
MKV is a image file format, it doesn't have a beak.
If you meant MkVI it's for sensors.

>>97901067
Will do, thank you. A d with that choice only a regular sorcerer, dark apostle, and master of possession remain.

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>>97901130

>>97900943
I thought space wolves had their own codex, they have so many unique units and are counted separately from other marines in lists.

>>97901129
>>97901132
MKVII my bad

How many Space Wolves even are there? And why does everyone hate them, there must be a reason besides furries.

>>97901149
Holy shit I'm beyond retarded, MKVI

>>97901116
>>97901110
Imagine being this retarded

>>97901055
I don't like Space Marines when their whole thing is just "Culture in SPACE" so Space Wolves, White scars, and Ultramarines are a Squat. I don't think open minded goody two shoes fit if you're a Space Marine so I don't personally like Salamanders or Raven Guard. Salamanders ride the line better though so they can stay. If I wanted Cyborgs I'd just play the Mechanicum and Iron Hands are already less relevant than many minor chapters so they're out. I don't personally like Blood Angels because I find that Dark Angels do the "Super Shameful Secret" thing in a more interesting way even if the reason is more retarded. So I'd squat Bloodies.

>>97901154
"I have viking blood in me!"
>anyone with a hint of scandanavian blood in them
That's why.

>>97901154
We've been over this
>biggest glup shitto subfaction next to Ultras
>worst, most derivative and uninspired version of vikingr ever
>Wolfram Wolferson with his wolf pelt and helmet ride a big wolf into battle
They're cringe fucking incarnate

>>97901031
>Lore
Give Votann more of a presence, more established conflicts with other factions, and more cultural problems than “our AI gods don’t work right anymore.” Also, establish more Chaos Votann.
>Rules
Not exactly a rules fix, but I’d give more unique units and rules for each Ork clan
>Models
Add human auxiliaries to Tau, make it more plausible to build an army of diverse races working together. Unrelately, add more psykers with runes to Votann.

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>>97901165
The bar is lower these days

>>97901160
in lore there’s more advanced sensors inside the beak. its why raven guard love them so much. the real reason space marines are meant to be space knights, and knights liked to wear the pig faced bascinet which has a huge beak.

>>97901154
They are shit, the theme is bland and attracts the worst kind of faggots, simple as.

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>>97901177
>in a low gruff american biker voice
Sorry brother.

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>>97900978

>>97900969
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE ULTRAMARINES INTERESTING!

>>97901133
A MoP or Sorcerer I can see for thematic reasons, but I less you're running Word Bearers who the hell uses a Dark Apostle?

The only way to make Girlyman and Ultratards interesting is with a Civil War ala Rome, yes.

>>97901206
>Unless

>>97901198
I mean by the nature of their very tacticool "jack of all trades" geneseed, no you can't. They will always be the generic poster boy marines. But also
>finally get a pragmatic character
>in opposition to all the fanatics and delulu already in 40K
>NOOOOOO MAKE HIM FANATICAL AND DELULU!!!!11!1!1!11!!!

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Working on this banner as the marine is mostly done. Might go back and do the eyes.

Any suggestions for the littlee shields and squares on the bottom of the banner? If I can’t think of anything I’ll just copy the box art

>>97901226
look up your own family heraldry of your last name

>>97901206
Word Bearers are my second favorite legion after the Iron Warriors. I'm a sucker for magi-tech fusions.

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>>97900471
>What Warhammer Fantasy army would you like to see added to 40k? Chaos Dwarves, Wood Elves, Lizardmen, Skaven, Beastmen, or anything else?
I would say "Soon" like I usually do but there are already Necrons. To be fair, how would an actual undead themed army work in 40k? A Nurgle zombie virus like Poxwalkers? If I were to make it interesting, though unlikely to be successful, I'd make it not human undead but xenos undead composed of tons of species genocided by the Imperium or others. Something about their hate bringing them back. Or failing all that, we'll just steal from Destiny and say the Eldar are so desperate to repopulate or get more numbers that we have Scorn now.

I would also look to AoS Undead if we're doing GW properties because quite frankly, even as someone who misses Tomb Kings, I admit GW regularly mishandles so many WHFB factions that there are many AoS factions that've been done better justice. I'd be the first to not want WHFB back the way it ended just because of how downright bad lots were. Ending WHFB IMO indirectly raised WHFB's reputation because more talk is about what would've been or even praising models and units hated during their time than acknowledgement how shit things were then. And I'm 100% not a fan of both AoS rumors or what I've seen in TOW either. Feels like a zombified botched recreation comparable to 9th Age and other fangames built more on butthurt and hate for AoS than love for WHFB,

Do Blood Ravens deserve their own rules and mini-codex?

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>>97901251
I would really like to see Soulblight translated into 40k (real vampires i mean not the twilight BA faggotry)

gonna work on my collage entry this weekend.
been taking a break from 4chins and painting, but it's about time to start up again

>>97901259
No individual chapter does.

>>97901262
And what role/gap would they fill that isn't already taken by GSC and Night Lords?

>>97901168
>>97901165
>>97901177
None of these people own any models

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>>97901274
But I do anon, check out this sick rhino

>>97901278
my guess you are the anti black poster

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>>97900823

>>97901293
I think the decalposer 3d prints his stuff.

>>97901278
Why do you always post this heavily edited photo? Its not funny and it proves you have no models of your own.

>>97901307
>heavily edited
Kek, not even and it proves nothing

>>97901031
>Fix the lore of one
Marines get fixed by undoing primarishit.
>Fix the rules of one
Sisters get fixed so flamers, bolters of all varieties etc. are actually useful and fun so the nuns with guns army get to actually be a nuns with guns army instead of a discount melee army. Also proper character and wargear rules are added while the dependency on having to run special characters is removed.
>Fix the models of one
All guard regiments that used to have models get 100% faithful plastic releases. Also the new sentinel gets reverted to the previous non-rounded design and the rogal dorn is removed while the macharius gets plastic.

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>>97901099
Nah if they are bad enough they stay somewhat red for life. I’ve had these for over a decade.

>>97901251
We can't copy Destiny again. We already have Votann.

>>97901324
those are stretch marks, dummy

>>97901324
Look up what Gangreen is.
Summary is: You need Vitamin C or your collagen that replaces skin tissue for scars begins to break down.

Good enough vitamin C will start making all scars skin colored. That's a first sign. I had a knee scrape that wouldn't stop making calice until I started up a decent Vitamin C regimen. My pink scars started turning skin colored again.

>>97901324
Bio oil fixes that shit right up btw

>>97901272
NTA but there's not much in necromancers making an army of their enemies in 40k. That said, I don't know how that'd mechanically work. It would at best be souping existing armies or a fleshy verson of Ork looting. It also wouldn't make sense for Necrons or Daemons to have zombie versions. It's a hard sell niche that'd be impractical.

>>97901335
I got mauled by a bear dude

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>>97901321
>nuns with guns army instead of a discount melee army
Will the changes to 11th create a close-quarters environment where meltas and flamers are more useful? Or will it truly be a melee edition like doomsayers predict?

>>97901348
Oh so you’re a twink, either way don’t talk about how you’re getting manhandled by your top.

When was the last time GW made a model of the MC of a book series not in Horus Heresy?

>>97901346
We have necrons and nurgle for "shambling undead". We have genestealers and tau for societal infiltration and turning of local populace. We have NL and BA for vampiric/bat aesthetics. There's zero need for "vampires in spaaaace"

>>97901346
>Necrons
>Wraithbone armies
>nurgle
>mind controlled guard, official visual film lore from GW
Just... look up 40k zombies.

>>97901354
Speaking of models from book series, 2026 Black Library Celebration is rumored to be the black MC from Mike Brook's Alpha Legion series. How much is that model going to get trashed?

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>>97901356
Even soul sucking vampires?

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>>97901346
>making an army of their enemies
>anon describing mechanics being souping existing armies & which ones wouldn't work
>>97901358
>Just... look up 40k zombies.
>listing anything but what other post said about making a mixed faction of skeles

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>>97901366
Yes? Well maybe not souls but they'll zucc something for sure

I too don't read before I reply.

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Any good?

>>97901364
Probably not at all because I assume there’s only like 20 people out there that will read a book if it’s written by Mike Brooks. It’ll probably fall into obscurity

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>>97901251
If you're doing Scorn, make them centered around pic. He was the most interesting Baron.

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>>97901218
>Finally get a pragmatic character.
Khan
Corax
Emperor
Tau
Any named guardsmen character cept maybe yarrik
Early magnus
ANY PoV straightman character used in a 40k book
Any named eldar character
Bile
Cawl
Trazyn
Probably the silent king.
Situationally Abbadon
Situationally pert
Situationally huron

In fact if it's a named character that's not an outright villain they're probably going to be using their head

I'm going to have to ask you for your definition of """"practical"""" how autistic are we talking here?

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>>97901375
God Knights suck.

>>97900943
We both know GW would rather hang themselves then try to do anything interesting with the IF and IH.

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some hobbies are much more expensive

>>97901423
That piano would resell for 80% of its cost almost immediately. Has a backup of parts makers and restoration specialists.

>>97900803
>wacky guys who do marvel quirk lines whose hyped up eldritch king is a jobber vs. slaves to hungering star gods and enigmatic overlords supported by a plot to necronize humans
well gee I wonder why one appeals to reddit and one appeals to people with taste.

>>97901408
The most interesting thing the 8.perial fists ever did was spawn the Crimson Fists

>>97901390
Do these models have stars for the table top? Also, they made a whole squad of of minis for the book Hell's Last. Don't tell me these are all women.

>>97901423
Warhammer is only expensive if you collect multiple armies. Some people collect like 10+ armies which is insane. If you stick to 1 or even 2 armies it's cheaper than video games.

>>97901407
>Right: You, a skinny tacticool ultrafag
>Left: The Custode chad she tells you not to worry about

>>97901431
>piano
you're quite the expert I see

>>97900943
>insanity and mental illness is what makes factions entertaining.
also it's what I find attractive in women

>>97901438
I collected nearly 2k points of darkeldarquins but it only cost me like 200 bucks because I got shit for free kek. And then 6000 points of chaos.

>>97901423
>>97901438
This, chasing competitive dragon or have little to no autocontrol leads to WH being expensive, if you stick with an army, use your head and buy what you need, finish your fucking models before going for others 40k is not that expensive.

>>97901443
https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-men-who-fetishise-and-date-mentally-ill-women-depressed-anxiety/

>>97901402
>Khan
>Emperor
>Early magnus
Talking about 40K here and not 30K, HH-let.

>Tau
>Eldar
Don't get books, and I wouldn't count "muh prophecies" eldar.

>all these literally who's
Point is Guilliman is pragmatic, disillusioned with the Imperial faith/creed AND in an immense position of power to do stuff about it, and he is interesting in how he contrasts to the 40K universe at large. Bile, Cawl and Trazyn are comparable, although are nulore that came at the same time/after Guilliman was reintroduced. In any case, turning Guilliman into yet another rabid power mad dictator would be boring as bat shit

>>97900803
It's just "old thing good," simple as. Midcrons (as the metal tyranids were not truly the oldest iteration) were thoroughly mediocre, and it was reflected in their popularity, or lack thereof.
>>97900811
So this, mainly. And the fact that Midcrons made a better NPC faction for Imperiumfags to dunk on. So anons like this, >>97901434 who have never owned a Necron mini, get angry about people liking them now.

Are people who want Sanguinius and Ferrus Manus to be revived the 40k equivalent of Disney adults? As in, people who just clap like seals and nod their heads whenever they see recognizable characters and don't care about the integrity of fiction?

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>>97901456
>vice
>first paragraph is wrong
Imagine she's hot and spontaneous, maybe her dad is dead but he was rich and she's afraid of cock but she needs it like a drug. And then one night you're roused from your sleep and she's standing over you with a knife screaming in your ear because she had a dream you cheated on her and your phone screen is on because you got a text or something. Hot.

>>97901469
I accidentally misread that as Destiny adults.

>>97901463
Uh oh reddit melty

>>97900803
Some people are okay with their army being cosmic horrors that don't have a bunch of named characters and melodrama. Tyranids are cool, despite not having "personality".

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>>97901456
>vice

>>97900803
They're Destinyfags

>>97900576
$60 is a bit much, see if anyone's clearing out stock.
Don't buy Primaris that stuff is garbage and poison for the soul

>>97901484
The sad part is that this nigga ain't even trolling and thinks he's giving good advice

>>97901469
Yes, but that could be applied to any marine fag.

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>>97900823
I am once again posting progress on my chinork warkopta scratchbuild.

No one actually buys from GW directly right? There's literally no reason when you get a flat 20% off across the board from discount retailers

>>97901186
I know you’re American. Not from your voice but because you think black Africans populated North Africa

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>>97901165
>>anyone with a hint of scandanavian blood in them
Even the gopniks?

>>97901516
The filename says African Vikings. Is it your enlightened thirdie opinion that North Africans don't count as Africans?