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/tfg/ - Transformers General
Shocky Loves You Edition
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we are getting a three pack with Ironhide (likely the ss86 version) soon and prowl is getting a ss86 mtmte (target exclusive) release.
if they reissue the earthrise pack to get some quick cash before they announce these releases officially then I honestly think that'll be better value but prowl could break in the long run with the clear plastic stuff the Datsun mold has
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Idk
I am floating ideas here
Does this work? Sunstreaker with breakdown gun and spoiler.
The spoiler can at least be placed on the arm where as with breakdown mold there is no where to go.
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https://m.youtube.com/shorts/VIfa-6jGCsY
And forgot the link, here you go.
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>transformers should have more paint! Paint means quality!
>It's a painted sample
That is a die cast part. Also, I don't think this guy get "sample" sample but factory production sample
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Basara Prime is extremely charming, very fun dude.
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>>11754994
The lower knee joints are pretty floppy on mine, but other than that I'm liking it better than I expected. Going by the pics I wasn't sold on the design but it looks way cooler in person for whatever reason.
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>>11755173
I'd rather Loudpedal because man I love a black repaint
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>*grumble grumble*
>How come I'm the one that always gets stuck fixing whatever breaks down in this dump?
>*grumble grumble*
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wonder if we'll get a Man-o-War out of the new seaspray mold?
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>>11755185
>pipe down and get back to work Gears
>I'm going fishing
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>>11754827
>it's better to think fast rather than LAST
when are we getting an omnibot OverDrive?
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>>11755174
I always wanted a second Battle Ravage. It was the only Alternators toy I ever owned and it broke on me. I grew up with BW so Russian panther head dude is the first thing I see when I think of ravage. I loved it since the Japanese toy is so rare and was my BW ravage.
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>>11755174
There’s a 3rd party MP scale of these coming out soon
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>>11755338
i want more animal-vehicle transformers
This one is almost perfect aside from small head and the weird hip armor obscuring the knees. But for something like this, it's very impressive. One that worries less about having a fully detailed vehicle interior? That could be even better.
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Was going through my old Siege stuff and ended up realizing I really like Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime better without the Cybertron wingpack/guns and head. Feels like a more fitting "upgrade" to Siege Optimus similar to how Siege Shockwave has his own upgrade parts. Head might be a bit small but overall I like the look of it this way especially if you give Siege Optimus's Axe to him. Siege was really fun.
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>>11755194
Buggyman
Really, I don't get why we haven't gotten a Chug Cy-Kill and Leader-1 yet.
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we've already got seaspray and beachcomber, so with powerglide coming out in may there's a slim chance we get them in another go-bots 3 pack alongside bad boy
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>>11755417
id love to see more go-bots. actual go-bots like Crasher and not the minibot recolors which while cool aren't really their right color scheme. No idea why we can't get a black/grey Cosmos for Pathfinder (i know they're based on the old e-hobby release but I never got why those changed the colors in the first place) either way, more go-bots would be fun.
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not that anon, but I'm thinking the same thing. If they can do Crasher, they can do others. They don't have to be perfect matches.
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>>11755453
I'm surprised no one else has done this, or maybe I just haven't seen it, but you can make legacy Treds (warpath) "more" gobot accurate by using his back as the front to streamline the chest. Transform him the way you normally would, but turn his hips around so they face his back, turn his head around also, the turret will stick out of the back, and rotate his arms at the elbows. Keep his butt flap down as well, to make it look like the body is extended as well. You do have to pop the hands off the mushrooms to swap them, but thats all.
It's not super amazing, but at least it's something to switch up the warpath mold.
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>>11755619
we are getting an MPG *HOT ROD*. it's not rodimus. They call hot rod 'hot rodimus' (no prime) in japan.
It's literally just a masterpiece scaled version of the ss86 mold but with a bit extra added to the backpack to cover the knee joints in vehicle mode. Like even down to the accessories
(still better than the previous masterpiece hot rods)
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>>11755659
Shut up
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>>11755693
okay I do like this car.
>>11755687
it's the best we can hope for in the 21st century, but
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I think it's safe to say that Armada Optimus Prime is the most popular Super Mode Optimus in the franchise. But why is that? What did it do right that the others didn't? Even Powermaster/Ginrai, a G1 Optimus Super Mode, doesn't seem anywhere near as loved.
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Speaking of super modes
Here's DNA's kit they finally made for Hearts of Steel Prime
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Energon Landmine
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>>11755836
Media doesn't tend to treat Powermaster Prime or Super Ginrai as a super mode.
In the west, the Marvel comic had Super Prime just as his regular look. Like Ultra Magnus, the inner cab bot didn't exist.
In Japan, Ginrai's trailer was nominally a super mode but in practice it was just a stopgap until God Ginrai, his actual super mode.
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>>11755957
Are you crazy? Cybertron Prime and Powermaster have nothing in common?
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arGODa fans keep winning
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>>11756030
But does he include his own mini-con who FORMS HIS LANDING GEAR?
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>>11756067
I’m assuming Spacewarp is more likely since Astrotrain came with a different set of Mini-Cons
>>11756070
>Also, where can I find an Armada Nemesis Prime that doesn’t cost $90?
Just do what I’m doing and wait for it to go to outlet on Hasbro Pusle. The same thing happened to the Powerlinx Hot Shot exclusive
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>>11756089
The colors were different shades.
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>>11756030
He always had to come with something extra seeing as he is the equivalent of prime's trailer but this is more than I expected, I was hoping for Comettor and some blast effects, Sparkplug if we were lucky. I still hope we are getting Comettor though.
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>>11756030
If Jetfire sucks, I'm going to throw the biggest tard tantrum.
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Any other jet or shuttle transformer I can use to deploy from Magnus was tempted to get blastoff.
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>>11756176
uhh... galaxy shuttle?
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Wild just what Hands can do for a Figure
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>>11755984
>at this point just buy a new toy.
seriously. but then it wouldn't be allowed.. at this point, I'm convinced they're in cahootz. I'm so sick of seeing binnismen just openly embrace what they always used to be accused of doing in secret.
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>>11756030
>Requiem Blaster
So how badly are they going to fuck it up? That Star Saber that came with Armada Nemesis was horrible and Jetstorm had a nasty habit of snapping whenever you tried to transform him.
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Jtprime has been teasing a bunch of upcoming figures. As far as I can tell these are all the ones he’s said:
>Rook
>Viper
>Barricade
>Nightbird
>Skyfire
>Alpha Bravo
>Wildrider
>Breakaway
>Goldfire
>Lugnut
>Scoop
>Guzzle
>Snarl
>Nautica
>Slash
I’m sure there are more that I’ve missed
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>>11756411
My assumption is that it’s either Getaway or a Nexus limb, though there’s a much funnier option as well
>>11756421
It’s probably Universe Rook because we just got Windcharger and we don’t have any of the Protectobots yet
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>>11756030
I'd be dead if Powerlinx Red Alert comes with the Skyboom Shield.
Also...
>>11756398
Is Jtprime kinda on a high right now? While his info is credible enough, he's probably out of control at this point. Welp, this should be the 2027 line, I presume, which will bear a new name.
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>>11756471
I only realized one stupid thing: Skyfall and Landquake might be swapped names because of trademark. With another trademark covering their names, they might need entirely new names instead of swapping half and half again (meaning Skyquake and Landfall might not be feasible either).
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>>11756187
Galaxy shuttle
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No one gives a flying fuck about Gobots like that lmao. You’re surprised they didn’t use the closest thing to a G1 update line at the time to make an obscure gobots homage, really?
It’s more likely we’d get a skylynx out of it than a tonka original gobot
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>>11756376
12+ years
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>>11756514
...That's not Jetstorm. That's Jetfire. No one is talking about Jetfire.
Jetstorm is the middle Mini-Con that makes up the Star Saber. You know, the toy in the image of the post you replied to?
You fucking idiot.
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>>11756524
His old Armada Figure is fine. I had mine for the longest damn time without even stressing
I never saw this "Totally well known QC" shit
So still wrong
The new remake is dogshit and falls apart and stresses so easily
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>>11756514
Anon...you're a moron. Reread what you originally responded to. The Jetstorm being referred to in the post is the Minicon that makes up part of the Star Saber; the specific version of him that was included with the new Armada Nemesis Prime is known to break due to the way he was assembled.
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>>11756530
>Talks about JetSTORM the micromaster
>keeps bring up JetFIRE the big bot
Holy kek no wonder UTfags like you are so universally hated. You can't even fucking read. Turns out playing with toddler tier toys still makes you a toddler
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>>11756530
First of all,
>I never saw this "Totally well known QC" shit
>The new remake is dogshit and falls apart and stresses so easily
Are the same thing. Not "still wrong". Learn to read.
Second of all, uh, yes, the original Armada toys also have well known issues. The entire Air Defense Team uses weaker clear plastic for joints and connection points. This was causing problems even close after release, to the point that the Air Assault Team redeco was done in stronger opaque plastic instead.
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>Still reading comprehension
Astounding. Even said "New remake is dogshit and falls apart"
I'm literally talking about the Jetstorm from the shit Nemesis release. I KNOW I said Jetfire at first
Which is why in my followup I acknowledged the remake and it's ass quality
The ORIGINAL Jetstorm Minicon didn't have that huge of reported QC that you claim is what I was saying
I should have flat out said "Yes the Jetstorm" since you sperg clearly are that retarded to read and comprehend shit properly so you flew off instantly
Christ
>>11756543
I do not remember that at all and my original Armada Mini-cons are still fine
Dark Saber and even Energon version were great and didn't have issues last I remember
I had a friend with original Star Saber and his Jetstorm stressed then cracked but he was also retarded and rough with his
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>>11756546
Aside from that anon's other dumbassery, they also didn't transform Jetfire correctly. The legs are longer than that.
The toy has a cargo bay in shuttle mode and can form alternate legs for Armada Optimus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIS0aE0iOaU
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>>11756539
>Incredible reading comprehension and mental disability
How could he be talking about Jetfire when a remake doesn't even exist yet??
Jesus christ and you guys called him a retard?
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>>11756550
Buddy, YOU'RE the one that first brought up the old Armada toy. No one else did. YOU did. No one else was talking about the old one breaking. YOU thought people were talking about the old one breaking. They weren't. YOU were the mistaken one.
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>>11756559
Yes then I clarified and you STILL went to being retarded
Hopeless
>>11756560
It was mistransformed on purpose for the meme
It's the "mom said it's my turn"
I was reclaiming my UT era stuff back then and still missing some.
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>>11756558
I'll explain how this conversation went down, since you're confused:
>Anons: The new Jetstorm sucks (11756305)
Dumbass: only hamhands break it (11756326)
>Anons: No, the new Jetstorm is actually flawed (11756376)
>Dumbass: Look at my Jetfire, I've never broken it (11756514)
>Anons: That's Jetfire, not the new Jetstorm (11756524)
>Dumbass: Why are you saying the old Jetstorm sucks? It's the new Jetstorm that sucks (11756530)
>Anons: No one mentioned the old Jetstorm. We've all been talking about the new Jetstorm this whole time. Holy crap you suck at reading. (11756539, 11756540, 11756543, 11756545)
(had to unlink replies because the system thought it was spam)
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Really hoping for G2 Rook as well. Just need him, a comic accurate G2 Mindset and a G2 Aerial Trooper from the Cyclonus mold to go with Jhiaxus, my small army of G2 troopers and the upcoming Liege Maximo.
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>>11756543
Man, took my original Armada Star Saber out of storage recently and Jetstorm's elbow had cracks in it. Fortunately I got the Kabaya version a few years ago that I use for play and display, which is made out of opaque plastic. Thank god for Mandarake.
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>>11756550
>The ORIGINAL Jetstorm Minicon didn't have that huge of reported QC that you claim is what I was saying
Ok, but WHY are you saying that? Nobody was talking about the original - someone said they're making a new Requiem Blaster, with the follow-up comment being "Will they fuck it up as bad as they did with the new Star Saber, specifically the issue with the new Jetstorm?". The comment had nothing to do with Jetfire or the old Jetstorm.
I have no idea how you're possibly getting confused by this.
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>>11756617
You really need to check your own reading comprehension, kiddo - then again, from the way you type, it's pretty obvious English isn't your primary language, so maybe your inability to understand what you've been saying wrong this whole time is getting lost in translation.
Again
>The ORIGINAL Jetstorm Minicon didn't have that huge of reported QC that you claim
No one claimed that. YOU did. The only thing anyone here was talking about was the new one. You went off on two different tangents talking about things nobody even brought up. This server is run by America, even if it's flooded with Indians these days; please learn the language.
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>>11756376
I'd even call that Omega Prime levels of unfixable. At least Brawl never reached Omega Prime level. Find the Kabaya Air Defense Mini-Cons, and talk to me again.
On a different note, how come nobody told me there was already a good Octane in existence, and that's the freaking Henkei Henkei one!?
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>we got him
Thank God I didn't get a lemon
My anime missing link prime got a huge cut on his face mask.
Anyway
Yeah, it is good. Yes it is expensive.
I really don't know what to say but I do have to point out that well both deer stalker and UM now got bunch of legs movement, but they do still have some difficulty using them
Dear stalker literally cannot stand properly because the way the heels are cut. The only way making it stand is having the whole body lean backward.
UM is that better on this but unfortunately the feet did not come with four and backward movement so you are somewhat limited in the post he can do standing up. You can get a stand but the thing is so heavy I don't know what stand can even handle this thing.
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This is the back
If you took out the main robot you can get more possibility out of the armor suit but I don't think I will recommend it.
If the legs push any more forward you are running the risk of having the white skirts hitting and damaging the diecast red paint. Having the main bot in act as a limiter.
Also the main bot doesn't really secure into the suit at all.
In the original toy the fist pegholes act as pegs. Now the only thing that secure it are the "arms" and the weight pushing it down on the resting location. And as you can see top ones barely clamp the leg.
Last thing, I don't know about those wheels. The rubber wheels on missijg link prime "melt" plastic. I don't know if you want to have UM in suit mode without some protection against the wheel rot- they do touch the trailer
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>>11756666
>how come nobody told me there was already a good Octane in existence, and that's the freaking Henkei Henkei one!?
It isn't that great of a toy, super Satan. I own one since release and like it, but that bot mode is awkward.
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>Also the main bot doesn't really secure into the suit at all.
There is a red clip on the trailer that locks in between the core bot's legs. Careful though, he can be hard to get out once fully locked in.
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>>11756823
I think they might be mixing it up with Nightracer, who’s a Tailgate redeco
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Till all are one.
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>>11756869
>Nightracer is in legal limbo, she's never getting a toy again.
Oh, we have ways around that
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>bad bitches with cool masks never to be seen again
>'Here's your millionth arcee shell car'
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>>11756852
Man this is my favorite transformers line ever.
I'm very I'm picky when it comes to hobbies and am a very selective fan of franchises. And usually i focus on one small part of each franchise.
The Movie is an awesome movie and im so happy to just focus on its toys - this is such a solid line...damn.
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>>11756888
The 86 Autobot cast looks so great, the 84-85 cast is fine enough but outside the minibots tends to be so restrained in terms of colors and variety. So much of it is just red or white or grey for big swaths of it. the main movie cast all being hugely distinct in colors and shapes is just pleasing character design. I think it's one of the best looking hero cast line ups we have gotten in a TF series. Next best is probably Beast Wars where the whole Season cast has their earth beast colors contrasted with a bright metal color. Just nice design there.
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>>11756915
Wreck-Gar isn’t technically an Autobot. His original toy commercial even makes him out to be a bad guy
https://youtu.be/4VqINSj51QU?si=eg4w8haXLRs_U-GX
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to add on to what >>11756947 is saying (and provide some context from deeply autistic knowledge)
The 1984/85 cast was mostly designed by Japanese artists, before being updated by floro dery for TV. The Japanese designs often had a lot of extraneous detailing, infamously including wheels on optimus' g1 design. Dery went in to the models and cut out details to make them easier to animate since he was a cartoonist and knew what would be easy or hard to do.
In 1985 some of the models for the newer characters were wholly done by dery, following in the footsteps of the 84 cast. Dery changed proportions on the moldmate characters to make them stand out, supposedly, which is why Red Alert is more toy accurate, or why smokescreen has a fat face compared to Bluestreak and Prowl. The biggest example of this is probably omega supreme and the guardian robots though, with the guardian robots being notably fatter than Omega since their model sheet was done by dery
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Im on vacation in the St. Louis area, and have had some great luck hitting up various toy and vintage stores in the area. Pic related was ~$150 all told from various stores. Tracks and Red Alert where even brand new.
This is the 3rd Tracks toy I've had, after the MP and Kingdom, and I gotta ask, why is he always cursed to shit toys?
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Red Alerts cool though, make me want more older chug car bots.
And no yellowing (yet), which is great
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Agreed, I actually picked up road rage nib after a bit of hunting and asking around here on for advice on a used ebay listing photo and anons explaining that the mould was a nightmare (to which I owe the thread a photo still) so she could join crosscut, because once I learned that bit of lore I had to make it happen. But after gently fighting with it to get her into car mode, im too afraid to transform her back to bot mode.
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SS86 Galvatron is around 36eur on eu-amazon.
I never owned Galvatron - is this the final-final-FINAL version? no recolors or "finally we have the best version-no need to own previous" gonna happen any time soon? (like for example with Kingdom Galvatron that is exact same toy but "not colored like in cartoon").
PS:
I still didnt buy SS86 Megatron - i'm 100% sure they will make a black/(or dark grey) pants version... they gotta fuck it up for sure
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It's a cool toy, big boy and pretty chunky, gun mode is cool and the 86 one feels real nice in hand. I want to say they probably finished their run of him bar 86 re-issues but he did sit around for a while, and any improved version is a long ways off so he's it for now but that's just me.
>inb4 moving hands version next year
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>>11757000
At most, I foresee takara pulling a lilac one out of their ass just like they did with TR. Hasbro already made 5 fucking decos out of him and I don't know what else they could do with it beyond bullshitting an SG megatron 2.0
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>>11756839
No I was mixing it up with her. Dont ask me how lol.
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I'm going to buy him then - thanks anons. After all it's the main villain (after his rebirth (unicron a i rather "evil godlike entity") - will be silly not to have him.
PS:
SS86 Megatron triggers my autism - i think we can get a black shins/pants any minute and old "outdated" Megatron will be panic sold on Ebay
Even Blokees got it 100% right the first time. I'm sure it was this whole money printing plan by Hasbro from the very beginning - 1) grey pants to make people scratch their heads 2) finally the TRUE version to make people buy it again
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>>11756704
i guess a design made to be a brick is more stable as a brick
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>>11757034
The bot mode is passable but skimping on the dodge license was unforgivable, even the white liner on the decal would have helped.
Whats RID got so far? Skybyte, towline and the haslab? I'd kill for a Landfill or Rail Racer.
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I can only imagine how irritating they are
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>>11757133
NEW PRIME
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Never ever
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>>11757133
>G2 Wildrider
Takarabros????
>Sky Guard
Literally who? Are they doing Sky Garry or something?
>Breakaway
I expect it's >>11756425
>voyager Guzzle
Probably a Brawl re-use.
>New Prime
NANIIIIIIIIII
>MW Starscream
I can't BELIEVE we've gotten Razorclaw, Megazarak, and now MW STARSCREAM before CRYOTEK. Happy we're getting him, though.
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>>11756991
How are the tab connections between the arms/shins (or doors, however you see it) on your Runamuck? I've been through three of them now and all of them don't tab in properly because they're slightly too thick to fit.
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>>11757133
i hope Cybershark looks more like his art this time, the actual toy deco was... a bit.. overly green and gray for me. Bluer shark parts would improve it tremendously.
also bizarre this is the first toy-original character we've gotten since Kingdom. Unless I'm mistaken. I mean okay if you count like, grimlock, nightstalker, etc.. but.. certainly the first toy-original TM2, and for that matter only the third TM2 now.
>>11757139
wait, we're getting cryotek?
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This mold really doesn't look much at all like G1 Skyquake/The MW Starscream mold.
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>>11757134
"New Prime" is likely "Nova" Prime. I don't know if these leaks are translated from some other language but that could be a common mistranslation considering "Nova" just means "New".
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>>11757151
What if its Skybound Elita Prime. She's a NEW prime.
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>>11757150
It has enough design features from G1 Skyquake that it's baffling it hasn't happened already
>>11757168
Skybound Optimus lands in October, only three years after he got the arm
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>TRA GEN PRIME DLX G2 WILDRIDER
At least they’re following up on finishing the G2 Stunticons. Will G2 Motormaster be a Gen Selects?
>TRA GEN PRIME DLX SKY GUARD
Not sure who this is. One of Nexus’ limbs?
>TRA GEN PRIME DLX BREAKAWAY
An obvious Aerialbot repaint for Nexus. Curious on which one will be repainted from.
>TRA GEN PRIME DLX ALPHA BRAVO
Great to see Combiner Wars OCs get another life. I’m assuming it’s a Vortex repaint given the compatibility with Superion’s arm frames.
>TRA GEN PRIME VOY CYBERSHARK
Surprised they never repainted Thrilling 30 Sky-Byte to this. Guess they learned their lesson.
>TRA GEN PRIME VOY GUZZLE
I’m keeping my expectations low on a possibility of him being a Brawl retool.
>TRA GEN PRIME LDR NEW PRIME
Nova Prime? Skybound Elita Prime? Zeta Prime? Either way, it’s nice to get a more affordable 13th prime for anyone who aren’t getting Star Convoy.
>TRA GEN PRIME LDR MW STARSCREAM
This is a Prime Skyquake repaint and nothing more. Meh.
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>>11757181
Spoilers to don't an /toy/
But you already figured that out
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>>11757160
Ohhhh
consarned syntactical ambiguity. It's okay, we'll get cryotek someday...
... or maybe china will start making affordable CHUG-scale guys. or since I have no attachment to Cryotek specifically, I could just accept an MP-scaled one as CHUG and just say he's huge. but... money.
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>>11757150
As long as they remold the head people will be happy.
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>>11757139
Told you Skyfall got trademarked. At least the most recent 007 is dead...
Speaking of Skyfall, I would hope to see these Nexus Prime limbs wield one of the unafilliated weapon artifacts so that they can form a combining weapon, the Cyber Caliber. Of course, Alpha Bravo and Rook serve as proxy parts for Landquake and Topspin.
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>>11757172
Anything from the Skybound comics, they go to Studio Series. I just pray they add some cool gimmicks to Arcana Magnus and Elita Prime to justify their heavy redesigns... Sure, Elita Prime could very well be a refined jet Elita-1 from Power of the Primes but either with a frame combining gimmick or no combining gimmick (I like the latter), but at least it should be refined enough.
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>>11757234
I really hope they've got this guy in the pipeline
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>>11757248
If they skimped out on doing Minicons for most of the Armada characters up until recently, there's no reason why they'd bother making a Chro. Even if they did, they'd probably just redeco one of the recent Laserbeak/Buzzsaw cassettes for him instead of making him an actual Deployer with is own mold.
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How are Yolopark kits? I just heard about these and the Dinobot is really tempting.
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or because they're trying to fix the mold and add more segments etc.
>>11757257
I'd like to see the concept kinda updated so it's less "turns into a lump with a crossbow on it" and more "turns into a proper weapon" but either way, robobirb would be appreciated. They did an okay job with the ROTB mini beasts.
>>11757258
I've heard only good things, but I think a small part of me would die inside if I bought non-transforming transformers.. even ones that look as amazing as this. especially then. also his sword is poiple again, sigh.
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>>11757133
>Cybershark
Based. This latest Gelshark's a really great mold, it'll look slick in that deco. Maybe they'll even make his spark crystal thing clear on this one, since the molding for the insignia is apparently on it in the back.
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>>11757304
whoa, there's hidden detail? i guess that's why there's an upgrade kit that replaces the orb. not sure how it comes out though.
i do think if they make slight deco changes, i won't be mad.. if the green is a bit less puke green, if the blue is a bit more midnight and less cyan.. yknow just suggesting.
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>>11757313
Shut the fuck up bitch
Sincerely, Energon Landmine
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>>11757310
I didn’t realize these two replies were connected so I thought JT was hinting at a new Powerpinch of all things
>>11757313
I feel like they could at least do Ironhide to get the obligatory “every series' main character gets a new toy in Generations” thing out of the way. I also wouldn’t be against Energon Rodimus
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>>11757318
Powerpinch is too much of a deep cut. A toy only character that hasn't had any popularity or relevance compared to bots such as Polar Claw and only appeared in an IDW comic. And besides, Energon Scorponok is a much better pick.
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>>11757324
I always forget Starscream even had an Energon toy. I mentally just jump straight from Armada to Cybertron
>>11757329
I have no idea, though I assume he’d sell at least a little bit due to nostalgia
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>>11757318
If they make Ironhide they have to make Jetfire, both as Leader class toys that can combine with each other and nothing else (unless they do Cliffjumper as well whose odds are going to be very low and something we may not see for the next 5 years or so)
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>>11757334
That's mostly because Energon Starscream was really more of a background character and forgettable as a result. The opportunity was right there with making Energon Starscream a spiritual successor to Dinobot II seeing as they're both a revived form of a dead honourable warrior near and dear to Megatron with asymmetrical mechanical details and suffering from amnesia turning their personality loyal. But they either never took it or never realized it.
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>>11757313
Imagine
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>>11757313
Rodimus
Inferno
Omni/Terrorcons
Starscream
Bruticus and his pieces
Superion and his pieces
Prowl imo
Megatron
These were the figures I had fun with a kid. I also enjoyed super mode optimus but default optimus is meh and his trailer is a true brick
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>>11757355
Nobody cares about that Energon Optimus anymore. Though I honestly liked the Prime Force being able to combine on Omega Supreme, but I just wished it served as Shining Omega Convoy, being the more complete version of Optimus Supreme.
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>>11757324
I'm also unreasonably fond of Wing Saber, even if I do recognize that he's a big do-nothing brick
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>>11757367
Yeah, it's like, if you don't have Energon Optimus, no point in getting him. He exists as physical DLC and nothing more, compared to how much you can do with Omega Supreme, even if the latter's weapon modes are hamfisted, for lack of a better or worse term.
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>>11757313
Shockblast is great, you just need to accept his fuckhuge cannon arm.
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>>11757406
the army green is just too clashy. I'm cool with big gun arms, but if you have a big shield gun arm on the other side (seriously that is straight out of Zoids) and your cannon is a weirdly different color from the rest of you, but it's not a neutral color.... then I dunno about that.
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>>11757324
Love Energon Starscream. He's my biggest want for an updated toy.
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>>11756888
Same on all counts for me. I love this line and it's what got me to really go all in on TF. The Movie and Beast Wars are my favorite pieces of TF media, so anything they put out for me is a must buy (except Astrotrain). I know the cartoon aesthetic isn't for everyone, but resembling the thing I like carries a lot of weight for me with this stuff. And SS86/The Movie figures give you a really great spread of all timers in terms of the characters that I find it really easy to just mostly stick with it too.
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The Movie crew all look so good and I made it a priority to group them together in that shot. The designs and color palettes just look even better when they're all standing next to each other. As much of a downgrade as Rodimus was, his inner circle felt like such an upgrade from Optimus'.
>>11756915
You actually just made me remember that I bought him over a year ago and forgot to take him out of the box. Apparently it is I who dare to be stupid, but I'll dig him out later try to work him into the display.
>>11756917
He still helped save the universe, so he deserves to stand with the heroes. I always assumed the Junkions and whatever Kranix's people are called were basically cousins to Cybertronians anyway.
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>>11756891
Thanks guys. Hot Rod's arrival motivated me to finally get all The Movie Autobots together and I'm happy with the way it came out. Looking forward to doing something similar with the Cons when more of those exist.
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>>11757408
The green may be a bit off but it still flows nicely with the translucent green all over his body, plus the Energon Star for the Decepticons is lime green so naturally one would think of the arm being filled with so much lime green Energon that it has turned into that color.
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>>11757415
yeah I suppose so. . but it sure doesn't look glowy or stained, just drab, especially compared to the purple. I think bright forest green goes way better with purple and neon green. But it's fine.. what's the altmode, a laser gun? he looks like he turns into a satellite.
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>>11757412
>Same on all counts for me. I love this line and it's what got me to really go all in on TF. The Movie and Beast Wars are my favorite pieces of TF media, so anything they put out for me is a must buy (except Astrotrain).
yeah Astrotrain feels likea huge wet fart lol. It's literally the first time i dont like a transformer. usually i just say "it's jut a different build this time"
this time it's not...It's just awfully bad. and it will be ridiculed for years to come.
I'm so happy for Thundercracker and its upcoming over 900000 recolors!
PS:
I wonder if they will release a Coronation Starscream again for thundercracker mold...
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>>11757420
Yes.
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Okay, new thought experiment. For those who got the AOTP Nexus Prime, has anyone tried fitting the Enigma of Combination on an Energon combiner torso's spark crystal? Again, I always think of the Enigma as "Energon Star-styled" to think it has to fit those spark crystals from the Energon toyline, especially because the original Nexus Prime was an Energon combiner remold.
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>>11757447
Unless you intend to use glue it won't work, the Enigma of Combination like all modern accessories has a 5mm peg. The Energon Spark Crystals is far bigger than that, even the inside diameter is bigger than 5mm so while you could technically place the Enigma of Combination on a Spark Crystal all it's really going to do is rub against the surface of it and not being able to lock in.
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>>11757451
Okay, then. Guess that means Shattered Glass Heatwave is bound to get a core similar to a spark crystal that doubles as some overglorified 5mm slot from a clear version of the same piece. My guess is that the Studio Series Nexus Prime could come with a clear Enigma of Combination gang-molded out of his energy shield that does the exact same job as the original piece, most specifically designed for the actual Nexus Prime. The 2027 wave is only tentatively under the Age of the Primes line because the next line's name isn't finalized, but think of the next line as one that could run two different Commander Class figures that are basically the same figure (some speculation that we are getting Defensor in 2027, Hot Spot and SG Heatwave might be a mold share if the Bruticus frame will not fit Nexus Prime).
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>>11757455
It's still too early to see how HasTak will deal with Spark Crystals and Energon Stars for Energon updated toys but my assumption is with Energon Scorponok coming up that they're just going to throw away the Spark Crystals and just make it a 5mm port for a Energon Star with a 5mm peg to plug into and that is going to be a crying shame. But since none of the designers care about Energon/Superlink I guess that's to be expected.
>(some speculation that we are getting Defensor in 2027, Hot Spot and SG Heatwave might be a mold share if the Bruticus frame will not fit Nexus Prime).
Personally I hope not, I would like for them to give G1 Combiners a break even though I see the logic. I want to see Energon Optimus Prime happen next year alongside Energon Scorponok.
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>>11757463
Though making these 5mm holes more elaborate could just be enough, even with a minor printing of the faction symbol inside the hole, deep enough to not get scratched by solid 5mm pegs. I mean, while unintended, you could kinda see a semblance of a spark crystal on the sides of AOTP Animated Ratchet's hood shell, being a 5mm port lined with a light border of raised plastic. Can't stop them from simplifying the spark crystal but still work like one, minus the clear dome. Maybe they could compensate by making an Enigma of Combination out of clear plastic but still have the silver paint like your typical CPE Matrix of Leadership.
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I haven't had mine shipped yet but I'm excited for it. I've never had a good Ultra Magnus, and in most respects the OG is my favorite. I read someone say the joints on the core figure were a little more pleasant than ML Optimus; what's your experience?
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>>11757495
Eh not quite the same, plus it would be extremely tiny. The original Spark Crystals are roughly 6 or 7mm (shut up) in diameter so they're visible. 5mm and under might present a problem especially if its deep inside, no way do I trust Hasbro and their ability to print such a small detail in a 5mm hole. And also it would bug me because Hasbro still has the capacity to do spark crystals, they just did that with Magmatron from Legacy United. Even AOTP Sky-Byte has a Spark Crystal technically though it's made opaque rather than clear preventing you from seeing the Predacon insignia that's actually molded in it. If Generations Energon toys don't have a semblance of a Spark Crystal then it's clear that the designers really don't care at all. But everything is just speculation after all.
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We technically already have the update with Legacy Skyquake. MW Starscream is going to be released in the wave extension meaning he's going to be at best just a repaint with a new head of Legacy Skyquake.
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>>11757435
Y'know, if they actually do remake this guy, they could use him to give us Cryotek ...just in his original body from Theft of the Golden Disk rather than his cool dragon one from later appearances.
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>>11757133
I wonder if Breakaway and Sky Guard will be retools.
Because if they're faithful updates of the original toys, then Hasbro will have all the molds they need to make Energon Superion (with some limb bots swapped around).
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>>11757552
It will literally just be this and they’ll all be red/blue repaints
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>>11756225
what >>11757558 is saying. Powered convoy was designed to be able to become a 'launch platform' for the jet robo (which became the g1 seeker mold). Clearly someone at takara was very proud of themselves for thinking of this play pattern opportunity so they used it in transformers, but to prevent showing two toys of different factions interacting (as that would be TRAITOROUS!) they used the closest size autobot flyer which was silverbolt
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>>11757429
Yeah, I feel like I'm normally easier to please with the way this stuff looks than a lot of people here, but Astrotrain is just so bad that I can't bring myself to place a preorder. Just an objectively bad looking toy that doesn't even really look anything like the cartoon/movie design. But yeah, infinite reuses of this mold are something to look forward to at least. I really like Thundercracker and I'm sure we'll get another coronation Starscream from it too (but I bet we get the gray/black dead version as a Target exclusive or something first).
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I'm not trying to excuse hastak's slop here but
86 Astrotrain was going for movie accuracy. Astrotrain's biggest and most memorable scenes in the movie were when he was in train mode escaping the city, and in shuttle mode while the decepticons fought for leadership. The new ss86 figure prioritizes the vehicle modes because of this fact, I imagine. (this also explains the opening back of the train)
The robot mode is shit unfortunately because of all this.
>inb4 "I know all this it still looks like shit."
okay (you) might, but some people may be missing that context.
Thank you for your time reading this.
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God I love podunk town walmarts
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>>11757667
aren't you excited for this exact same figure but with blue windows?
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>>11757643
This is such a lame excuse and I've seen it repeated time and time again in different places.
>Astrotrain spent time in his alt modes in the movie
>unlike all his other appearances, apparently
>therefore, it's ok for his main form (the bot mode) to look like shit
>and all because the box has the magic words Studio Series on it
There is no missing context here.
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You know what else he's notable for doing in the movie? Being the one to crown Starscream during his Coronation, being present - in robot mode - through the whole sequence. So you really can't make that claim if his robot mode was front-and-center like that just as much as his other two modes were.
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>>11757660
I’m hopping that it’s the Devestation mold instead since that’s directly based on the Classics toy, which would bring things full circle
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>>11757701
Not only this, but just the idea that Astrotrain in the movie should be represented by a different (inferior) figure than the exact same character in the exact same continuity even, from any point before and after the movie is such a strange thought process. It's cope and nonsense.
It's also funny because there are episodes where he spends far longer in shuttle mode than the 3 or 4 shots we got of it in the movie. And, the new shuttle mode isn't even good!
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>>11757779
Both Prime and Airachnid have iproved versions of their regular toy from 3P/4P company APC toys
Slightly bigger but will fit in a collection well enough. Expect to pay $45-65 each
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>>11757643
shuttle mode is slop too
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you missed what this was a response to >>11757643
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H aha.a..any dday now guy
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This is the retro line, though. Logically they'd be referencing the ehobby toy.
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>also why the hell are we getting exhaust
My guess is these two are redecoes meant to "correct" the Gen Selects releases with the Decepticon insignia.
Exhaust and Bug Bite were the only toys given the Mercenary brand, aside from that Takara release of Soundblaster.
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>>11757435
kinda clumsy satellite but I'm cool with the maser tank.
>>11757528
oooh shutters, i dig that. now all they need to do is start using NEON plastic for lightpiping. it's not that difficult, guys.
>>11757542
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>>11757869
>that weirdly makes sense as a prior body for him
Well, that's literally the ripped model of him from TTotGD, though we never saw him use the alt mode. While I'd love for them to actually release that version of him in toy form, I'd still prefer we get him in his better-known dragon form.
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Today I got one of the forgotten sons of Cybertron
I had a Snarl bavk in the day but 20+ years left it both knackered and lost
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>>11757926
Desperately needs some color.
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>>11757925
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/glyph-head-pack-for-earthrise-bum blebee
Fits on earthrise and animated. No idea about SS86 or devastation
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>>11757926
I have the black version (who I refer to by his Japanese name, Fang Wolf, because I own a million different Snarls at this point). I like him, but agree with the other anons that he and the other Beast Planet guys need an update.
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>>11757952
>Planet Stand Up, Switch Heads
Nah, deserves to stay in the trash where it belongs.
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>>11758031
I'm okay as long as the legs change
Kingdom Cheetor/Tigatron is a perfect way to do it. The robot thighs fold away into torso extenders, since humanoids have shorter torsos than other animals. The shins fold out into the shin and foot of the cat. Only the robot shins become cat thighs. That's a real transformation.
also the robot arms folding into the chest is good. leaves room for the cat head to become the chest. farrrrr too many animal-head-chests fail to make ROOM for the head, so either the head's too small, or it sticks out too far.
having the wolf head become on arm is creative, but it looks dumb. it makes a very poor arm.. the elbow should have sat way further back, giving him a big 'crane' arm.. it would still look dumb, but less. and then in theory, you could split the wolf head into parts to make it a giant fuckoff cannon or something
leg and torso transformation here are kinda garbo.. though I assume the big wolf head carries part of the torso size.
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>>11757926
His design feels a lot like Transmetal Cheetor, I wonder if that was intentional or not
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>>11757926
Based
>>11758031
Cringe faggot
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>SG voyager starscream in listings
I know it's probably just a reissue but... cmon, it's right there hasblow
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>>11758199
God please
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Now that I'm (>>11758019) home, here's my Cybertron Snarl [Takara Special Black Version], who I prefer to call Fang Wolf because I have WAY too many Snarls. He's the goodest bestest boy, and has probably my favorite wolf alt mode of any other wolf transformer out there, even BW Wolfang (who has a better face but is an immobile brick). His Cyber Planet Key clips onto his thigh when not in use, and you can flip the tufts of fur on his cheeks down when the key is plugged in to keep his mouth open.
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Mid-transformation shot, for >>11758031 - he has a lot more going on than is initially apparent. You basically have to turn him inside-out to transform him, which is neat.
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>>11758238
Robot mode. I like how his weapon can be either a gun or a sword, depending on how you make him hold it.
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>>11758237
weird how the fangs are sitting so far back and angled that way.. but yeah, that is badass. . worthy of Zoids.
>>11758239
you know, this head-arm isn't that bad from this angle.
to me, head-arms should always have a nice big meaty head to act as the hand / part of the forearm. Most animals' necks taper to a pretty small head, so that doesn't work that well. a crocodile head is good, a fish head is not so good. And here, due to perspective, the wolf head looks fine.
you know, as much as I like gun-tails and even sword-tails, just once I want the tail to be a forearm poking out, and a fist unfolds from it and the haunches are the shoulder pauldron.
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>>11757869
>maser tank
There actually is an Energon Transformer called Signal Flare that transforms into a Maser Tank. And on the Decepticon side his rival is Curellock who transforms into a dinosaur.
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>weird how the fangs are sitting so far back and angled that way
It's because they retract backwards and into the head when the jaw closes, storing roughly under where the wolf eyes are. There wouldn't be enough room for them to slide up if they were further forward in the muzzle.
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>>11758247
yeahhhh see, that's a really easy, cheaty altmode, but that's how you do it properly.. that is the right way.
Bit too much clear red (or rather, too many continuous areas of it) especially the thighs, and the cannon deco is baffling, but... . very good mold.
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It just works, I don't get the hate on Beastformers for being simple when 90% of vehicleformers before Car Robots 2001 were effectively 5 steps at best. And generally, rear becomes legs, middle arms, front chest or head.
1996 T.Rex Megatron is more complex than basically any Transformer before it.
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>Curellock who transforms into a dinosaur.
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honestly the way the t-rex torso raises up, twists, then sets in a totally different way.. is kind of incredible.
>>11758262
ohhhh yeah, him. the one who looks like GINO. I guess the maser tank thing is even more appropes then.
That said, super SUPER boring transformation, this one. . happy meal tier.
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>>11758266
I looked it up and it's more complex than I thought (literally just tilt the dino head back), the waist apparently changes (though not satisfyingly) and this automatically nudges the shoulders and moves the dino head, so i GUESS that's okay. Kinda reminds me of Optimus Minor, whose transformation takes a lot of work to accomplish basically fuck all.
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It's a cyberkey gimmick so it won't be visible all the time, it's of the era, a compromise for the sake of the gimmick engineering. Perhaps the gear mechanism was easier to implement further back, or they worried the translucent teeth would break if they were too forward. Either way they felt kids would prioritize play over accuracy.
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Thanks for reminding me that I had this guy tucked away somewhere, though he's the later released version with different colors.
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>Kinda reminds me of Optimus Minor, whose transformation takes a lot of work to accomplish basically fuck all.
Stuff like that is fun to me though, because it shows they think of how to vary the shape of a bipedal beast instead of just saying fuck it, a robot can have a beast shape. You can tell they tried to give his roobt mode more human/heroic proportions compared to how squat and wide the monkey mode is.
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much more natural colors..
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>>11758280
TRIED. yeah.
I think the main mistake is that they A) made the limbs, particularly the shoulder and hip pieces, visually interchangeable, instead of just.. literally interchangeable, as in they swap places..
It should have been 'monkey mode has hip skirts, robot mode has shoulder pads' not both have both. and what's more, the folded down pads hide the only significant difference between the sets of limbs, the red upper arm / thigh part.
The splitting arms are awesome, i'm just saying. I'm not sure how I'd make a transforming monkey, but.. not like that. perhaps I'd have the monkey torso be quite thin like some monkeys are, but then have the monkey head-halves -move and fill in the gaps- so he now has a bulkier torso, while his monkey arms shorten (in the process of meeting the new wider shoulders) and then shoulder pads move in from the former monkey titty region
legs could just have the thigh meat swivel down onto the shin meat instead. that's good robot proportions.
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Question for anyone that has coronation Starscream and the new 86 Thundercracker, does the crown even fit on the new head? Know the shoulder pads and cape won't fit from what I've seen so betting they'll update it down the road and did I hear right that the newer 86 Starscream is going to be target exclusive?
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>>11758323
I will guarantee you they keep holding out for Cryotek being an exclusive and no one is biting.
It's probably budgeted as a bit more expensive than a regular release in hopes that an exclusive deal will justify it but so far nothing.
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>>11758328
>I will guarantee you they keep holding out for Cryotek being an exclusive and no one is biting.
If that's the case, I can guarantee the one they're pitching him to is Walmart. As was pointed out when Star Eagle was announced, these companies are so vain that they tend to insist that their exclusives match their brand colors - red and white for Target, blue for Walmart, and so on. Cryotek would have to be a Walmart exclusive by that logic.
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>>11757435
Energon made me quit transformers way back then. I returned only during late Combiner Wars.
this line didn't age well.
At first you can find these big transluscent parts fun/neon but then it's just big meh.
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>>11758387
The point of Energon's toyline gimmick was that you had all these big translucent parts with various 5mm pegs and holes where possible that make up an Energon weapon. And with those pegs and holes it was possible to create various Energon weapon loadouts for a Transformer, various different types of weapons and combinations can be made with only limitation being your imagination.
And the best part is as a continuation of the previous Armada's toyline gimmick Mini-Cons, the Energon weapons also contain at least one Mini-Con peg or hole so they can be combined with Mini-Cons for even more ridiculous weapons or be backwards compatible and be used in place of a Mini-Con to activate Armada's Powerlinx gimmick.
It's a shame not a lot of people know or understand it, so many think the shirt and pants Powerlinx gimmick was Energon's toyline gimmick even though that was strictly only for the Autobots and the Decepticons had flip out weapons dubbed Hyper Mode as their counterpart to the Autobot's Powerlinx gimmick. Maybe that's why Legacy's Energon weapon gimmick died out around the 2nd or third wave, because no one was interested in it.
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>>11758399
yeah but they're all so goofy lookin
they're not like, weapons that look like they're made out of energon shards, or anything cool like that. they just look like waffled messes. rejects from other toylines.
same issue with the Prime toyline. not too bad overall but their obsession with bizarre, bulky, awful-looking weapons is just nuts to me.
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>>11758400
That's the downside to making it translucent, with all the added details it looks like a modern toy with all the hollowness you'd expect haha. They should've made them more opaque in my opinion.
>they're not like, weapons that look like they're made out of energon shards
Probably why they're translucent to begin with, to give off that effect of being produced from Energon shards. In the anime both Omnicons and Terrorcons literally mine and chew respectively on Energon and refine them into proper weapons to be used. I do wish there were a bit more variety of weapons though, on the Autobot side the best you got was an Axe, a bow, a spear and a pizza cutter. And on the Decepticon side it was a gun with a scope attached (with said scope looking identical to G1 Megatron's fusion cannon that was also a scope in his gun mode, look at Battle Ravage above), a sword, a boomerang and a weird gatling sword fusion. Really basic stuff.
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Gather the Coreflames... Awaken the Demiurge.
Wait, that's not right...
Gather the Prime Masters, reawaken Primus. That's better.
The Throne of the Primes is getting a reissue, and thus, the exclusive Prime Masters of Nexus, Amalgamous, and the Thirteenth Prime. If anyone cares about getting the Prime Masters to match with the full-size Transformers, or probably to fit a Matrix Frame on the Legends God Ginrai, the chance is about to open up. Of course, they're Prime Masters, nobody would be interested in these anymore when we have the real Thirteen, all out and about in store shelves across three full years since 2024 until just this week.
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Runabout reissue...fuck yeah.
It's taken them a while but I do give Hasbro credit for their recent run of re-issues. Now the last one I really want is a Fangry-style Ransack reissue so I can complete my deluxe Insecticons.
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>>11758399
these energon gimmicks look cool but even back then i understood that it's...
hmm..
it's like a juicy colorful gum effect.
>WOW A GUM!
>OMG SO TASTY AND JICY...
>2min pass
>taste disappeared
All of transformers on your picture and other pictures lacking in something if you remove these energom gimmick weapons.
like for example: >>11758262 this dinosaur is super simple and boring if it didnt have those energy parts.
>BIG RED SHINY LOLLIPOP
>oh yeah there is a robot attached to it.
Something like this.
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>>11758429
>Coming back due to combiner wars of all things is insane considering how much worse it was than energon
Combiner wars were the first time transformer toys started to look like action figures that can do all kinds of stuff.
A lot of people came back exactly for that reason.
I always hated when transformer couldnt be articulated properly or had some stupid stuff due to transformation or gimmick.
CW finally gave us "wow he's...he's like in cartoon..." feel.
Also combiners that are not small and dont suck
come the fuck on. its' the best
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>>11758487
CW figures had less articulation than most of the figures that came out 5 years prior.
Honestly the only reason I can really see for people getting back in through CW was because of G1 accuracy.
>Also combiners that are not small and dont suck
Maybe the original G1 combiners didn't suck but the CW ones definitely did. They were so bad they needed 3rd party addons to function properly most of the time.
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>>11758487
I am not one of those fans that says the 2005-2010 era was the best time to be a transformers fan but why are we lying
Classics, Universe 2, fuckin thrilling 30 in 2014, all of these eras had figures that "started to look like action figures that can do all kinds of stuff."
Classics Optimus Prime is still one of the greatest primes of all time. All a third party company would have to do is add ankle tilts and butterfly shoulders to a KO and I guarantee you'd see many people replacing their primes (or at least their SG primes) with it.
However..
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The g1 combiners were cool but they definitely were jank. They didn't suck, necessarily, and they were much better than other combining toys I think, but still..
However I don't think it's right to say that all of CW sucked. There are sure some bad combiners (menasor), but there are also some good ones (Superion, Defensor), although you definitely do need upgrade kit parts on them if you want to get more extreme poses.
I'd argue that CW defensor even with handfootguns is still collection worthy nowadays.
And I say this as someone who got in the franchise after ONE and likes the legacy combiners a lot. (although I've had friends that loved the franchise for way longer, so I've been able to mess with a lot of the older toys)
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>>11758547
>The g1 combiners were cool but they definitely were jank. They didn't suck, necessarily, and they were much better than other combining toys I think
They were jank but they actually functioned and were a good price for what they were at the time.
Most of the individual molds from CW ranged from aggressively mediocre to outright terrible. There are very few standouts from that line.
The combiners barely worked and unless you scrambled for those Perfect effect add on pieces, you were left with a $100 figure that can only get into like 2 poses. Then there are figures that no amount of upgrades could have fixed like that Devastator, Even Takara couldn't save it.
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>thrilling 30
damn i forgot about this
30ties were so cool that we still can't get a regular retail figure better than thrilling 30s Wazzzpinator and Rhinox.
But yeah CW looks more close to beloved G1 look so overall i'd rather go with the flood gates that CW opened.
then we got Titans Return and then Power of The Primes.
not to mention TITANS - metroplex fortress and trypticon and others.
G1 is the king.
+ beast wars
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>>11758614
How hard is it for you to scroll up, are you retarded?
>Bad molds
>Bad materials
>Stupid Hand-Foot gun
>Combined modes are mostly unstable
>Downgrade from past figures
>Lack of detail/paint in many figures
>Combined modes hinged on the torso being solid so anything using the Optimus/Motormaster mold were automatically fucked
>Devastator in general
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>>11758472
It's funny how the only appeal of the Prime Masters was the belief that that was as good as the 13 were going to get.
And if you were one of the poor bastards that decided to collect them anyway, Hasbro still asked you to buy a convention exclusive and a titan.
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>>11758696
Yeah, it's not half bad. The other Junkions were low priority for me because it seems like they shelfwarmed pretty hard, but I may have to pick up Scrapheap and Junkheap soon to give Wreck-Gar some boys.
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>>11758424
so cool
Wreck Gar is my favorite movie character and he was my first "movie/ss86" figure and i was never the same before.
I didnt even know they were doing this 86 lineup and it sucked me in.
Now i collect transformers in full power (before i was just buying whatever looked cool enough without focusing on any cast or wave).
Man... The Movie is one of few gems of humanity... a movie made by a corporate greed to sell toys. But so many years later it's still one of the best things that unites people and generations
pardon my Swoop
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>>11758624
I didn't care about the Primes thing at all. I wanted those figures because the were the closest thing to new Pretenders we were going to get.
In fact, I wish Hasbro would've given us more.
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>don't know about many less known transformers lore
>really want to get ss86 Sunstreaker
>watch the lore of this guy
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>sociopath
>egoistic asshole
>constantly brags about his skills and himself
>looks down upon other autobots
>shows off in front of everybody
Not sure if i disappointed or instead like him because that's for sure a unique character personality for an autobot.
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>>11758402
it's just, I can accept waffling if it looks like mechanical detail
and I can accept big chunks of clear plastic if they look like ore that was hammered into weapons
but mechanical detail in clear just takes me right out. There was a sub-line of Zoids where they did them (usually partially) in transparent plastic, to evoke a stealth cloak, and all it did is expose inner parts of the clear toy plastic and make it look like a toy instead of a cool model. The few of those I fuck with, I always paint something opaque over most of the clear parts, only leaving windows. Because there are lore reasons to have windows of clear shit all over.
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>>11758783
I like him for being the Autobot who's an asshole in the same way I like Thundercracker for being the Decepticon who isn't a dick.
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>>11758783
PS:
Will post other transformers i didn't knew anything about (character wise) that surprised me and made me like them more:
>Cosmos feels lonely because he's alone in space all the time and he feels happy when he can come down to earth and talk to other people
>Long Haul hates to carry stuff and wants to chill - just because he's a carrier doesn't mean he has to do that
>Thundercracker is better than some of autobots
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>Trailbreaker having low self esteem
oh yeah i forgot that one of constructicons (Scavanger) also has self esteem and thinks he's not good enough.
But their leader scrapper always stands for him and makes others be sure Scrapper is a good part of their team.
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>>11758802
For me it's
>G1 Rampage is a violent, belligerent retard that can only be pacified by being set in front of a TV.
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>>11758796
It’s such a shame that the G1 bios never get used that much in terms of writing these characters. My personal favorite will always be Prowl, he is literally me
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>>11758580
now that I could see. Microman was always about "look, things are transparent. just deal with it, it's cool. it doesn't have to make sense"
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>>11758902
Resurrecting an old favorite
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>>11757576
I don’t doubt this.
I guess it will be a repaint of Silverbolt’s frame so it can work with Nexus’s flight vehicle.
But will it come by itself?
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>>11758980
The newest one is
>make it make sense
And
>war on fraud
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>>11758919
So I got the better one already is what you're saying
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>>11759010
thank you.
we're here for escapism, god dammit.
post tramborbmermbs.
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>>11758616
Then again, if anyone wanted a more show-accurate OpOp, they might redo the guy without the Evolution gimmick because that was what removed the truck mode. I can live without the electronics, but have it be much better proportions yet keep every other manual and spring-loaded gimmick (but with no springs, that is).
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>>11758613
i have to admit, I'm getting very comfortable with the idea of 'alternate reality' characters
yknow what if Prime's spark didn't inexplicably turn the boss monkey fucking safety orange. The blue and burgundy I could see...
And then you get like, Primal Prime who actually LOOKS like Prime affected him. Love that guy.
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Iguanus Motorcycle vs Iguanus, Motorcycle.
Both the "new" ones were at a surplus store. There were a lot of them, a core class Ironhide that was packaged swapped with a GI Joe, and a few non-transformjng figures. There also was the infamous crapton of Star Wars and MCU figures, but I instead bought come comic book multipacks and a children's model kit of the Compact Pussycat that isn't very show accurate with just the plastic.
Iguanus is is a decent looking lizard, but his joints are loose. Seems about right being the price of a modern core class on clearance.
Arcee reminds me of the Legacy Animated Prowl in transformation scheme. She's kind of underwhelming, but cheap.
So did they sell those guys in solid cases?
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>>11758247
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>>11759056
I don't want them to do it unless they do it right. Everyone with me here? We probably won't get another chance in 5-10 years.
and to me, 'right' means redesigning it almost completely.. Ironhide and Silverbolt's robot modes sucked.
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>>11759056
I doubt it. They already made Skywarp using the Kingdom Airazor mold, and unless they figure out a way to make him retroactively combine with the others, I find it highly unlikely they'll make him again with a whole new mold.
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>>11759065
They wouldn't call him that, but yeah.
That said, in Magnaboss, all he did was what the Falconzord did to the Shogun Megazord. Just connected to the back and swept the wings forward, under the armpits, to reveal weapons. There's no reason this toy couldn't do 90% of that. I just don't want that.
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>>11759065
GS Star Convoy, the retool of PotP Optimus, released in 2019, and they released one with a brand new mold, titan class no less, six years later. Kingdom Skywarp released in 2021. Next year would be six years after. It's not that farfetched.
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>>11759073
Honestly, probably SS86 Magnus. I held off on getting him for so long because I felt like my Kingdom Magnus was better proportioned and was scaled more accurately to the rest of the 86 cast. Got him a few weeks ago and was really impressed by how much fun he is to fiddle with.
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>>11759073
I finally managed to track down a United Magmatron for a good price. Even my non-Transformers friends thought it was really cool
>>11759074
I’m honestly curious how they would handle a new Magnaboss, since the Japanese one is the only one to appear in animation, and I don’t see them trying to do both versions when they are so similar. I think the best option, which they probably wouldn’t do, is to do the Japanese paint decos since they have more detail and include an alternative Prowl head for Lio Junior and separate Magnaboss face since they are all the same mold anyways
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>>11759140
I wouldn't blame you - especially since the dragon is what he's better known for. The other version, however, has never had an official toy before, so it would have the novelty of being the first time Cryotek's original body existed outside of being a virtual redeco; he's the only member of the Predacons from Theft of the Golden Disk who never had a toy of his Cybertronian form (Scorponok and Terrorsaur were released during Combiner Wars, while Dinobot, Waspinator and Megatron were released for Timelines).
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>The core bot
It felt the same
The thigh swivels still hard to turn as hell so I don't know what people meant saying about being a bit smoother.
Having played with the thing over the weekend, I am really tempted to get delta Magnus.
I find that you can actually lock the core bot in- there is a "locking" position which you slot the chrome bumper into. It is very secure going bared. You have to ignore the instruction, you can't really get to the right spot with the suit arms deployed. Get the core bot into the position before transforming the arms.
Though, the locking system is made of the chrome bumper and the painted die cast. I would recommend to get a thin plastic sheet to cover the inner part of the armor suit to prevent chipping or general rubbing. The sheet should also prevent the rubber wheels getting contact with the inner plastic if you have it large enough. It won't be pretty in the back but at least you are protesting the figure
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>>11758731
This, actually. I also just loved Head/Titan masters and wanted more ways for them to interact. They went really well with targetmasters, modulators, and baseformers.
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>>11759294
I hope they take some liberties with the headsculpts, Ironhides more than the others.
Make his G1 head but more bestial, give him fangs and make his mohawk fur...
And the weapons, they could make those club things Ironhide has into movie/aligned style arm cannons.
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>>11759354
Disappointing and downright awful.
>>11759356
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>>11759359
Fucking grim. Anyone still buying retail Transformers needs to be slapped.
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>>11759374
can he still be mistransformed? this is a deciding factor for me
>>11759357
I know any time they try to make soundwave a ship it's a flying nothing, but goddamn they didn't even try with that altmode
>>11759359
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>>11758298
HOLY JESUS
>>11757657
Please be the netflix mold, please be the netflix mold, please be..
>>11757797
cope excuse
>>11758374
nah, just him
>>11758623
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>>11759387
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>>11759359
Fucking awesome. Anyone still not buying retail Transformers needs to be slapped.
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>>11759355
This thing is gonna get soooo many redecos.
>>11759357
No opening chest, no buy.
>>11759359
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>>11759353
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>>11759401
Buddy, his head still sucks, and clearly, they can't just update a design from one of the most recent movies they made. Also, what Studio Series ROTB releases do you like, and what retail figure do you like in return? Scourge is banned because he doesn't have a second toy from HasTak.
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There was one repaint back in the day, for the PowerLynx Optimus Prime. So they would have to come up with something new for Nemesis, to really match.
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>>11759407
I’m assuming given that they’re including the Space Team means that they have a Spacewarp redeco in mind, since she was originally supposed to come with redecoes of them as well. Her colors fit Nemesis a lot better, in my opinion
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>>11759407
here's all the decos of the original toy (third was planned, cancelled, and reworked into the forth)
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Diversity loss, Jetfire has fired his DEI hire minicon
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>>11759073
I really like Quickstrike, more than I ever thought I would. Both the Hot Wheels crossover figures rock hard playability and have fun G2 vibes. Twin Mill is probably my favorite vehicle of the last 6 months, but Quickstrike appeals to me more with his beast/monster alt mode. I always favor creature alt modes.
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>>11759449
I think the stock photos might be mistransformed, the back of the box image doesn’t have the panel. I’m guessing it’s meant to fold up more
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>looking for fembot to go with nemesis
>preferably ship or plane to keep it on theme
Beyond impossible to find pack ins and such, legacy united slipstream seems to be the only one but she has a goofy looking torso and hands. Can any of you speak to her quality and enjoyment factor or is she another shampoo bottle level plastic rattler like legacy evo strongarm?
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Big Convoy is cool. I can't figure out how the fuck the get him to hold the big gun properly right now, but I'll try to get some shots of that later.
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>>11759488
Dont have windblade, so cant say.
>>11759493
Might be a bit aways at this point, we havent seen starscream or coneheads yet.
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>>11759073
Needlenose and venin, needlenose I had tracked down for a while and he's a cool lanky jet guy that isnt just another seeker mould. Venin really surprised me with how much I liked him and how enjoyable he is, will be a standout of 2026 I think. Honourable mention to 86 soundave and retro gears for being a fun little guy
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>>11759494
This is the best I could do with mine for the time being
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>>11759514
To be fair, the “classic” Seekers never really had that problem. Not including generics, the Coneheads all look completely different from Starscream and the Rainmakers have a completely different alt mode. Sure Thundercracker and Skywarp look the same as him, but they have completely different color schemes to differentiate them
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>>11759353
HE CHONK
As he should be, and giving him the Requium Blaster was a good idea, imo. Too bad about his own minicon.
>>11759355
Actual great remake.
>>11759356
Thank God, he's getting rereleased. One of the few I missed out on.
>>11759357
Lol, another flying crab. Will grab.
>>11759359
Miles better than Star Scteam.
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