I’m guessing Flash will be in the last part of 2026’s retro wave

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Chang over in Hasbro factory sort of screwed up his Wild Bill "prototype" that he ran off in the factory off-hours.

>>11760804
Probably. YoJoe June will do a lot of reveals that'll map out most of the rest of the year, and I'm not even hearing whispers of Flash being anywhere in sight.

>>11760629
You forgot to mention the Fatal Fluffies under rumors.

>>11760980
That seems far-fetched but you're right.

>>11760995
I can see the Classified team doing a scary take on them.

>>11760995
I don't think it's that far-fetched, the Joe team loves the cartoon and I believe they've mentioned the Fluffies before. Hell, they even had a song about em on the Cold Slither Album and the bassist even Cosplayed one at NYCC at the Hasbro booth.

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It's a blast from the past, guys! Still haunting shelves in 2026.

>>11760629
Why are the vehicles so expensive, I'd expect them to cost about the same to make as the figures with how much detail and articulation goes into those.

>>11761121
Because after licensing costs Star Wars and other licensed IPs are expensive, so Hasbro deliberately keeps the prices of its own IPs high so they're not "internally competing."

>>11760629
That’s a lot of Cobra vehicles but barely any for the Joes.
Isn’t because the HasLab this year is the SnowCat?
Because only the Triple T and a green Ferret are scraps.

>>11761455
I'm sure the Snowcat being this year's big vehicle release has a lot to do with it.

>>11761468
Oh damn!!!
I guess most of the last stuff he worked on won’t be out until 2027.

>>11761468
Boss Fight Studio has been uncucking themselves a lot lately.

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>>11761468
Translation: he's tired of his "superior" being someone half his age who most likely got the job through checkboxes instead of being a fan of the brand. I'm sure that he's really sick of all the awesome stuff put on hold and coming out at a trickle by "LET'S DO THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S COOL FIRST."

>>11761468
Welp it's over

>>11761468
Cory Cantelupe just posted the other day that he's joining Boss Fight as a full time sculptor too. He was one of the people Hasbro fired in their mass layoffs a few years ago and was the original sculpting manager on Classified. I wonder if they're planning on doing more layoffs and Lenny was given a heads up that he was on the block so he jumped ship while he could. Either that or Boss Fight must be doing something exciting if they were able to pull him away from Hasbro.

>>11761510
severely doubt the fat woman had anything to do with this, hasbro is just getting rid of everyone they can these days because shareholders demand ever increasing profits even while the ship is sinking

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>>11761525
>when a company lays off or runs off their talent while keeping all the DEI checkboxes

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>>11761525
>Boss Fight must be doing something exciting if they were able to pull him away from Hasbro.
They fired Eric Arana and his wife who ruined the company by making terrible head sculpts based on their friends and family, and were doing woke shit toys. They recently announced a bunch of Conan and Red Sonja figures in both 1:12 and 1:18 scale. Several years back they fumbled a deal to make toys for Dynamite Entertainment to make Red Sonja and Vampirella figures.

>>11761529
Shareholders are usually well-educated, and know that profits come from producing what sells a lot for the lowest possible price. At this point Classified exists to hedge against the giant losses Star Wars generates.

>>11761531
Has lame and gay, bro.

>>11761531
You okay chief?

>>11761552
>>11761545
>samefag
It's true. They lost a lot of money last year, and losing talent while pandering to leftist crap isn't going to fix it.

New Joe movie confirmed

>>11761535
What a salty loser

>>11761535
pretty brave of him to make that keychain of someone jerking off

>>11761565
It doesn't work in live action, and Hasbro and Hama refuse to understand that wider audiences don't give any fucks about ninjas (which is why SE Origins was a flop).

The ONLY way it could work is if they rip off the scripts from Metal Gear Solid, Syphon Filter, and Splinter Cell.

>>11761535
Yea, I'm aware of all that and I'm thankful it happened. I just wonder what they have going on in the background that we don't know about. I can't imagine Red Sonja and Conan are IP's that would pull someone like Lenny away from the largest company in the industry. Especially when he's spent pretty much the last decade working on Joe, a brand he is pretty passionate about, and built Classified from the ground up to a pretty decent success. Not to mention to make the move from Pawtucket to Boston with them. Boss Fight is also in Mass, so maybe it was planned all along and they're going to let him and Corey do something all original for them. Either way this makes me wonder how much life is left in Classified after this.

>>11761612
>how much life is left in Classified after this.
The line's on a good trajectory at this point, it's not like he was the only person doing the sculpts, it'll be fine. Especially since its Hasbro's only line with a 100% Haslab success rate

They fired Lenny cuz he's a white male. Sad but true.

>>11761616
He was the lead designer though.

>Especially since its Hasbro's only line with a 100% Haslab success rate
That's not even true. TF, Ghostbusters, and SWTVC have all had 100% successes.

>>11761620
I forgot about Ghostbusters, and I lumped all SW ones together, but didn't TF have to extend one in order to fund?

>>11761619
When given how insane companies got with the DEI woke crap, I don't doubt it.

>>11761624
>I lumped all SW ones together
As you should since it's all under the same brand. And the SW brand at Hasbro is not 100% successful.

And Ghostbusters is spent. After the proton pack and Ecto-1, there's nothing left to do from it.

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Yeah Im just here for the toys

>>11761633
Ross could make more of they'd list them online like the scalpers who hoard them do.

>>11761630
Janine in Ghostbuster suit

>>11761630
>And Ghostbusters is spent. After the proton pack and Ecto-1, there's nothing left to do from it.
Galactus sized Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.

>>11761640
>implying thats a good idea
Nope
>implying these are for resell
Nope
>implying the 1991 intro didnt have 7 of these rising out of the sand
I still need 1 more

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Oh yeah and they didn’t come from Ross. U jelly?

>>11761650
Not really. The over-sized scorpion is what ruins it for me. It's too large to the point of being comical.

>>11761653
It’s just a mutated creature or else it could be the largest scorpion on earth. Either explanation works for me. Im just thinking how it’s even more unrealistic if an entire squad of them all has their own. Seems more plausible if the whole group just had the one. Like a murderous mascot.

>>11761653
I too was not the biggest beasts-in-my-Joe guy but Ive warmed up to them if for no other reason than they’ve always been a thing. Some characters are “beast masters”.

Also it’s annoying how every Joe fan picks and chooses where to draw the “realism” line. The purist “G1ers” seem to forget tha everyone was shooting lasers at robots from day 1. Me personally I like it all. The more you take a shine to the later stuff the more boring the older stuff gets

>>11761658
Well if you bought a stack of them at $40 each when they'll be hitting Ross at any time now, then hey more power to you.

>>11761646
I think life-sized statues of characters need to make a comeback.

>>11761660
>Also it’s annoying how every Joe fan picks and chooses where to draw the “realism” line.
I'll admit I've fucked up in that regard, mainly because I prefer the cartoon but also prefer some degree of actual realism. I just don't see Cobra spending R&D dollars developing bigger bugs when there's dinosaurs to produce.

>>11761661
I got them on clearance at Target, thanks.
>>11761664
Gotta start somewhere

>>11761633
Monster

>>11761658
I don't like any troop having a pet, it's more special if it's just one dude. So in my headcanon there is just one Desert Scorpion and he's basically like Croc Master

>>11761699
In my headcanon the leader of a team has the pet and others don't.

>>11761699
Thats definitely how I roll too. First and foremost there is only one Alley Viper in my personal Joeverse. There is also one episode of the show that sort of kind of backs that up in his case. Desert Scorpion was definitely going to be another case of this for me as well before Target practically forced these on me at the price I paid. Hell, maybe I will still hold to that and only keep one Of him. and just use the others for trade bait. Not sure yet, we’ll see. All I know is that the second you start troop building any character it automatically becomes less special. They become cannon fodder by default.

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And then again sometimes more is cooler

I’m pretty sure Lenny got to do Golobulus before he left. But I’m sad we’ll never see his take on the 1990 Joes, Cesspool, or Headman and the Headhunters.

>>11761765
The time it takes from initial proto sculpt to production sample figure is around a year and a half. We'll be seeing his work through a good part of next year.

>>11761767
I know.
But with the exception of Golobulu, like I said, I doubt those other characters are in the pipeline for the next 16 months.
So Lenny never got a chance with them.

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>>11761508
Considering he was a transfag and apparently liked doing fantasy stuff.... i think he was one of the problems with the GI Joe line.
GI Joe Classified was too techno-y, hence so many of the fans making negative remarks about it early on and because all the designers can't do anything else, they're too afraid to do anything but catering to nostalgiafags.

So with Lenny gone, i hope this means they have the talent to do something original again.

Or maybe he's not getting replaced......

>>11761661
>Well if you bought a stack of them at $40 each when they'll be hitting Ross at any time now, then hey more power to you.
ooof... did he realy cost $80 and $40 is half off?
$40 is super expensive. wtf.

With Lenny gone, what will be the 2027 HasLab?

>>11761830
>they're too afraid to do anything but catering to nostalgiafags.
If that were true then we wouldn't have gotten Ghost and GRIM Vipers, nevertheless modern characters like Helix, Zanya, Dawn Moreno, and Sundown.

>>11761973
No one's even verified what the 2026 HASLAB will be. After the SW LAAT/i barely made it and the Tron set colosally flopped, all HASLAB discussion from Hasbro itself has fallen off of a cliff with only rumors of a Thunder Machine floating out there.

Last year Hasbro did four HASLABs (Lio Kaiser, Tron, Snowcat, and Laat/I). We're almost 1/3 through this year with nothing but a rumor of the thunder machine. I'm getting the impression that Hasbro is slowing down with them now.

>>11762228
I mean the world is falling apart around us and there's tons of uncertainty. Makes sense not to do crazy expensive shit.

>>11762237
>Makes sense not to do crazy expensive shit.
Or to make better choices like the Rattler which at over 26,000 went well over the 9,000 MOQ.

>>11761664
>I just don't see Cobra spending R&D dollars developing bigger bugs when there's dinosaurs to produce.
I tend to have the impression that Cobra's science division largely has freedom to pursue whatever mad scheme Mindbender, Dr Venom, the new dinosaur guy or whoever else wants to try this week, and Cobra will work with whatever produces results, unless someone outranking them has a specific idea they want done. So big bugs and clone dinosaurs are both things that can get worked on at different times.

Those big scorpions look like they'd be hard to tame and control, so wrangling them may be part of the punishment process of being a Desert Scorpion.

>>11762382
I don't doubt it, but I'd still like to see some receipts, lol. Guess we won't have to look at anymore tattooed Joes and Dreadnoks after Q2 '27 at least.

>>11762382
Who is that supposed to be?

>>11762382
I would like to see the Retro line rebranded as a Sunbow and comic book line, while standard Classified is everything else. I would also like to see 1:18 make a return.

>>11762382
>Soap opera drama
Notice how no one mentioned specific figures he's worked on or what they worked on so we could have some basis for comparison. The line has improved. That's why there's no longer those ugly knee pegs. Over the past year face sculpts have definitely improved. Can't deny that. My largest complaint is them stretching the line out to keep it going for as long as possible by throwing out shit customers don't want while hoping to eventually get to the stuff they do, then blame the customers because stores stopped carrying it because shit customers don't want didn't sell.

>>11762419
Retro stuff on retro-cards is fine. It's enough to differentiate it from the regular line.

>>11761830
>GI Joe Classified was too techno-y
>they're too afraid to do anything but catering to nostalgiafags.
huh what. nostalgia covers too much ground to say it was all about the techno-y stuff. nostalgic fans also like the realistic based military figures and the non-fantastical characters

>>11762505
I'm saying I want Sunbow and comic accurate figures. I don't need a figure that was already acceptable being re-released on a Retro card with hardly any changes.

>>11762419
>>11762588
The retro line is already all encompassing. Look at Cover Girl, BAT, female CG, Destro etc. And with Lenny and his cartoon autism gone, I'm sure it's only a matter of time until we get some comic figures

>>11762596
You already have. HELIX. Zanya. Shooter.

>>11762629
Comic figures that people actually want, like Kwinn and the Oktober Guard

>>11762639
Oktober Guard is most likely not getting past the execs because of the Ukraine War.
Daina can be an exception because she’s from Czechoslovakia.

>>11762596
>Cover Girl
A garbage figure not really based on anything particular
>BAT
Wow! They painted his mask red! Such accuracy! I want actual sculpt accuracy like Super7's.
>female CG
What makes her "Retro"? She should have been a standard figure.
>Destro
Ir's almost identical to the standard release. There's zero reason for it to exist!

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>>11762642
I don't think it'd be a problem. Marvel's still using Yelena Belova in the MCU and she's a russian assassin. And we got Quarrel with a Z-Force logo after all.
>>11762644
They're all still based on the cartoon, low effort as they may be. If you want smoothed out sculpts, go buy the Super7 shit, they're cheap as fuck.

>>11762645
>go buy the Super7 shit, they're cheap as fuck.
I would but the Ultimates line is dead, because most people collect Classified. If I want a 1/12 Sunbow line there's no option. And that's really gay.

>>11762648
The line is dead cause it was shit and overpriced, it was never gonna last. They're lucky they got as many figures out as they did

>>11762645
Quarrel is Swiss not Russian.
The Black Widows don’t work for the Russian government is the reason.

>>11762658
I haven't bought a Classified figure in almost 2 years. I also hate the amount of casuals who buy them.

>>11762660
>Quarrel is Swiss not Russian.
Obviously, the point was that no one thought we would get any reference to Z-Force cause of the letter's association with Russia. There was really no reason to give her that logo yet they did it anyway. As long as there is no explicit association with the Soviet Union mentioned on the figures or the packaging, I see no reason why we couldn't get those characters.

>>11762644
>A garbage figure not really based on anything particular
she was based on her devils due appearances. kind of like armada and zanya being dd characters also getting figures.

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>>11762644
>>11762669
??

>>11762669
>>11762674
The sculpt doesn't care about the source material nor the accessories. Therefore I don't care about it.

>>11762677
ok retard

>>11762667
>I haven't bought a Classified figure in almost 2 years. I also hate the amount of casuals who buy them.

This is the brokest thing Ive ever read on toy. And Ive been here since day 1. You must be a total fucking bum and even if you do have money you are most certainly poor in spirit.

>I haven't bought a Classified figure in almost 2 years.
Sounds like (you) are the casual you little bitch. Why don’t you shut the fuck up and go sit in the corner with your dunce hat. Coming here unironically spewing hate on a board for action figures. Get a life you little shit stain

>>11762434
You keep saying this stupid shit but you never specify which releases people "don't want". They've been going through the entire early 80s releases at a pretty good pace, they've dropped most of the most popular figures, sometimes more then once, and have hit the most iconic of vehicles with no sign of slowing down.

Hell they even do newer characters and original characters that are generally considered great additions to the franchise. The way you talk you don't even seem to like the line, so I'm curious, what amazing A-Lister super popular figure are you waiting for that up to this point has been so overlooked?

>>11762648
There's always been room in Classified for all of the above. I don't get why people argue in absolutes with the line needing to be one way or another when it can be all of the above. Ultimates is dead because they were expensive and at 7" they were a shit scale.

>>11762658
The most valuable one is Baroness with fridge body and fat face. I don't know why.

>>11762674
Which somehow managed to be the 2nd-best female figure last year behind Rattler Baroness. Damn we need a Wolverine.

>>11762382
Hasbro won't exist after 2030, the retarded boston move is already them circling the drain

>>11762668
What does Z-Force have to do with the Soviets?

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>>11762717
Just the letter Z. It was a big meme a few years back for companies to avoid it anywhere in their designs or art

>>11762686
Where did I mention not buying them because of the price? I don't buy them because they keep reissuing things as Retros with only minor changes, and there's very little interest in sticking to the source material when they do Sunbow or Marvel. They always have to make random unnecessary changes that I don't care about. There's also no point in collecting or buying into too many vehicles, ruining a lot of my interest in Joe's. This line has done nothing but infest Joe with Funko Pop collectors who like Marvel Legends.

>>11762732
>infest Joe with Funko Pop collectors who like Marvel Legends
This was only happening in the first year or so of the line. At this point, the only people still in are actual Joe fans

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Im so glad I never paid much attention to the cartoon or comics. Im just now finding out apparently Lifeline was some whiny pussy? No way not in my childhood; he was a medic still yes, but he was also one of the most badass commandos of anyone. Hes is the first figure I snapped their O ring because I played with him so much. As for the Classified, hes awesome. I’ve seen a lot of photos and video of people having trouble with his helmet and sunglasses which is not an actual problem. I just don’t know why they made his sunglasses gold instead of silver

>>11762753
Cartoon Lifeline got the best waifu in all of G.I.Joe media.
A sexy college age billionairess who just wants to fuck him and shower him with gifts.

>>11762753
In my canon he was eaten by a t-rex.

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>>11762382
Do we owe him an apology?

>>11762753
I like Doc more. Lifeline's existince doesn't make much sense either, like surely an elite fighting force could find a very good field medic who isn't a pacifist, what's so great about Lifeline that they had to have him? That said I don't mind a pacifist character because he's an interesting contrast with everybody else in the cast. Although they gave him a loophole with his judo or whatever which they said doesn't count as fighting for some reason

>>11762777
no, hes still an unlikeable cunt

>>11762784
It was 1986. A lot of Vietnam movies came out. The same Hasbro that turned GI Joe into an adventure line in the 1960s to protest the Vietnam war used Lifeline to be their anti-war mouthpiece in response to the Vietnam movies. That's so obvious.

>>11762674
>1983
>devils due
derrp

>>11762796
Please read the whole convo

>>11762777
No, his designs are shit and his figures are boring.

>>11762382
Cobra was more than fine with Lenny running things but his direction with the Joes left a lot to be desired considering the name of the brand is G.I Joe. Don't get me wrong cobra is a very important part of the brand but it's fucking wild that they're releasing a despoiler before a skyhawk. It also always seemed like it was pulling teeth for him whenever he HAD to reveal a joe character.
>Oh here's your fucking soldier joe release because we have to.
His bias towards cobra was becoming a problem.

>>11762884
i have to wonder if they decided to just not do the skyhawk after seeing that third party one, it probably would have cost about the same anyway

>>11762887
idk, but having a skyhawk which people would buy multiples of as a famazon wide release vs a despoiler which should really be reserved for something like a con exclusive limited release makes a lot more business sense.

Also to me, the fans hobby skyhawk design looks more similar to something in the Halo universe than GI Joe imo. There's enough difference in the designs imo.

>>11762382
>some nobody that is probably a vala dick rider
>>11762777
why? he's a stupid faggot

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>>11762221
>If that were true then we wouldn't have gotten Ghost and GRIM Vipers,
redecos? WHOA, such groundbreaking toys just like the Sonic Fighters Viper and the Python Patrol Viper!
>Helix, Zanya,
whoa! more remakes! how new and exciting!
>Dawn Moreno, and Sundown.
The only actual new toys (out of 324094 redecos/remakes/etc) and you proved my point that they're afraid of releasing new shit... nevermind none of these are actually talked about, unless it's to shit on them, so i expect to see them at ross in a year.

>>11762564
Most GI Joes has traditionally come with quasi-futuristic shit, because it's based on technology that's already in the pipeline or was already prototyped by the military. If it wasn't a straight up copy of a real gun/vehicle.
Whereas Classified GI Joe line was mostly just made up shit like Apex Legends or Titanfall.
Again, there's a reason why they dropped the early style from the line and switched over to just releasing shit for nostalgiafags.

So people like Lenny got into GI Joe to revamp the line and turn it into something new, but their work was rejected by the majority of the fans/kids, so their talent went to waste just slightly modifying the original designs, instead of doing what GI Joe was doing in the 00s and 10s (making new shit and doing a great job at revamping GI Joe).

why was the 1990s/2000s Action Man all over the place?
>constantly changing story
>poor build quality vehicles
>the shift to Xtreme sports

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>>11762982
because nobody gives a shit about action man and they had shitty writer.
And sports as cartoons were actually pretty popular back then, despite not actually getting ratings, hence this series having a pilot/microseries about mechs in combat as a sport and the actual series becoming about mechs as roller skating racecars.
It's very easy to write about something as generic and linear as a sport team wanting to win at their sport.

>>11762992
>toyline writer

>>11763009
action man was pushed through the cartoons