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So is there anything new about MPG-19, or is it just a fresh coat of paint on a 14 year old toy?
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>>11802806
It has an additional pink energon cube, instead of the gun Megatron, other wise yeah it's the same in cartoon colors
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>>11802778
>leave country eons ago and live in usa
>still don't have Slug in my dinobots squad because he's expensive
>feel nostalgic. go to see what kind of toys that store in my old country have
>Slug is just ~$20 bucks...
wh..what...
Ok here is a plan
>return and buy Slugs. All of them
>move them in states
>sell them on ebay
>become rich!!!
jk i'd rather buy slug for $200 bucks than return to that hellhole... still i'm salty. I remember seeing Earthrise Jetfire for $30 bucks on that site as well...
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>>11802806
Do yourself a favour and just buy Acoustic Wave if you want a toon Soundwave
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>>11802815
Honestly I feel the same. I like how the original MP Soundwave likes a lot and still want one even with his weird hips, and even as someone who doesn't care for toon-literalism Acoustic Wave looks decent. This seems like a weird compromise between the two with the strengths of neither. The sculpted details look odd without the extra paint apps of the original release.
That said if Takara does a new mould MP Soundwave I'd rather it was an "MP-13 2.0" ala Style Gen Optimus, rather than trying to compete with the FT one. The aesthetic of MP-13 was great, just the engineering is a bit wonky. And looking at how the 2.0 of Bumblebee came out, yeaaaah.
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>>11802822
>doesn't care for toon-literalism Acoustic Wave looks decent
The fact it lets you change out some parts for the toy versions was great
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>>11802822
And if we’re talking style gen they should take cues from Studio OX design I think
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>>11802828
That is very cool. I think I overall prefer MP-13's style to AW even with the toy parts (also IIRC the toy parts on the sides of the legs can't stay on for transformation, could be wrong though) but I do appreciate that they included options. Honestly, if they re-released it in colours closer to the original MP (darker blue and silver instead of white) I'd probably bite.
>>11802831
Studio OX Soundwave would be amazing. Honestly I'm sad MMC are the only guys doing OX designs, they're so stylish- like designs for a condensed but more coherent and better animated G1 OVA that never happened.
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In hand pics of Titan Grimlock are out now
So have some size comparisons
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All the best to those that get him, but I think I'll be skipping this one
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>>11802858
Man all this has over the Leader is size and the tail. And DNA's kit sorts the tail. The robot mode is kinda clunky, the dino mode is extremely janky and the actual sculpting and paintjob feel like downgrades. Plus it's so fucking BIG. I'd have bought a Slug or Scorn at Leader size, but not like this.
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>>11802852
This is why I find Titan scale Dinobots so absurd. Grimlock shouldn't be the same size as Devastator. It's dumb.

This and the fact he can't close his mouth makes him an easy pass for me.
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>>11802859
Outside of its general jankiness, the sculpt job might be what kills it more me.
The leader class is much more visually appealing to me
Plus the backpacky stuff obliterates the silhouette making his waist and already wide hips look even wider
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>>11802866
The big thing is that it's the Bayverse Dinobots. Nobody cares about them. They are the true test if Hasbro can sell nothing characters at Titan class to appeal to checklistfags.
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>>11802887
I watched that movie once and I don't remember them doing anything. I think Optimus rode Grimlock for a scene? I will not be watching that film again.
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>>11802887
3P has been selling them for years now, and they're cool designs even if no one cares about the characters. The big issue is that Grimlock looks kinda janky here. But in theory if they did them well they'd have a market, Dinobots always do.
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>>11802866
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>>11802858
I don't know what's the point of this being so big and expensive.
This character comes from a bad movie. And it looks like you cut yourself trying to transform him - it looks so unfriendly to your hands and fingers..
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>>11802912
>I don't know what's the point of this being so big and expensive.
Hear me out: Titans at Leader scale paired with a revival of Legends class. It'd be neat to transform Metroplex without having to lay him out on a big surface.
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>>11802866
>give Grimlock a knight head to match the others?
>No!
>give Grimlock a G1 inspired head that also looks similar to a knight helmet?
>No!
>give Grimlock the head of Guyver?
>That's it!
Such strange movies
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>>11802953
>give Grimlock the head of Guyver?
>That's it!
Well, at the very least it’s continuing a TF tradition
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>>11802953
I always assumed it was taken from one of the noble or viking helms where there is a tall singular horn to signle to the group of soldiers where the commander was
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I love Legacy Gears. Such a fun little bot. Kind of wanna pick up Swerve now, but I feel like he'll probably hit discount eventually.
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>>11802866
The leader looks cool but I hated actually playing with it, everything just clashes and clunks and falls apart/isn't held together very well. I have to imagine the titan is at least better at that
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>>11802912
>This character comes from a bad movie.
They're all bad movies, anon. Maybe 1 is decent.
No, DOTM is not that good either.
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>>11802912
You don't have to watch the movies to enjoy the toys.
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Would the blokees grimlock be the best tiny grimlock to do a swap for the pro version of the pinball table?
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I just noticed the drop targets were the seekers
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>>11802675
ahh thank you, that clears it up nicely.
>>11802680
yes, did you even google it?
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/legacy-filch-upgrade-kit.1269241/
>>11802696
the chest pieces seemed to go around the head, plugging into those slots on the chest-sides.
and yes that anon was using an airazor upgrade kit
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Hopefully DNA will make kit for him to look even more like Unicron or Cybertron crab tank
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I am far more interested in what "New Prime" is and what he's remolded from.
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>>11802989
>I love Legacy Gears.
I wish I'd picked him up before the aftermarket price went insane.
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Saw this guy in hand

You know what I am sold
But damn talking about the price.
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They have 2 sets on site for test play.

Bunch of kids actually gave them a try.
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>>11802855
>the main selling point of Titan Grimlock is the big dino mode
>it has barely any articulation to do anything
What were they thinking?
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>>11803075
>Stygian Zinogre
Come on give me whole line of TF x MH
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>>11802863
Do you think he's the same size as G1 Grimlock?
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>>11802912
>And it looks like you cut yourself trying to transform him - it looks so unfriendly to your hands and fingers..
Have you never touched a Transformer toy made in the last 20 years? Hell, have you never touched ANY Hasbro toy?
What a larp, why are you even here? That shit is soft gummy plastic
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>>11802850
God, he's just so crappy. I'm glad I waited on the 3P one but I'm also really glad to finally get him, and this was the last straw keeping me thinking 'well maybe they'll eventually get him right'

fucking how many movie grimlocks has it been now? Discounting the baby ones, at least four? and they're all THIS bad.
>>11802855
at least he has a semblance of a neck and tail, I have to give them that. Hell, the tail's size beats the 3P. but... the LEGS! Christ, you couldn't make the legs transform, huh?
>>11802858
yeah that is the right attitude.
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>>11802863
in the movies he's so big, Prime can ride him, so..
>>11802887
They are among the best bayverse designs. Them, Devastator, and Jetfire. and the Dreads. and Ravage.
>>11802891
true, they don't get to do anything.
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>>11802912
It's unfriendly to his enemies!!
>>11802972
I took it to be like Kyoshin..
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>>11803032
Each one is the best of the series, and the worst. It's truly bizarre and amusing. You take various aspects of them, the humor, the action, the human elements, the designs, the plot, the pacing.. each one does one of those the best, and one of them the WORST. and what order that goes in? is totally fucking wacky
Nobody expected anything of the 4th movie, why the fuck are they doing a 4th? but it ended up having the best plot. and the WORST human parts, as if to say "oh you complained about the human parts before? Here's a guy thinking his 17 year old daughter can't have a boyfriend and treating the guy like a cradlerobber for it, and that's supposed to be funny"

then we're like well okay, for the first time, a good plot setup. How will the 5th one be? uh, WORST plot. Fucking garbage. Dumbest robot mode looks. and yet, DINOBOTS. fucking dinobots. and the BEST human parts of any of the five. We got fucking Agent Simmons back AND Anthony Lilyhopkins, and they are both in top form.

It's truly a mess of a series. the 2nd movie is hot garbage in story pacing, yet it has the best designs of any. It's nuts.
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>>11803075
Take a closer look at the proportions
they really fucked this up hard. Liger head is stubby and small in beast mode, yet overly gigantic and sticky-outy in robot mode. Robot torso isn't even the beast torso folded, because of all the electronics, so it's just like this giant filing cabinet turned on its side. shoulders attach to basically nothing. Beast mode legs put all the meat on the feet, so the thighs have to waste away like Frank Moore. Liger paws in robot mode can't even flip around to be melee weapons, they're just hanging out underneath. It's a messsss. And on top of everything else, they kept the transparent nose tab on the liger, which EVERY version after the original changed, or at least painted over if it was a remold.
>>11803083
That would be pretty tits. I am very excited for the new MH zoids.
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ALL HAIL MEGATRON!
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Modern stampy when
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>>11803079
That's very cool of them. but it seems the challenge was a bit too much. This isn't for kids anyway.
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>>11803119
Whenever Legends/Core class gets revived
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>>11803075
Mine's finally in the mail, I preordered it from Pulse when I was just a lad. I still think the design could have been better but it looks fun overall. I think what got me to pull the trigger was the inclusion of the diaclone stuff, it just kind of felt like a some nebulous throwback to playsets I had as a kid.

Who are these little guys? Why do they have a giant robot animal? Why does the giant robot animal stand up and turn into a humanoid? I'll never know, but I'll love every second of pitting them against some other random bullshit I've chosen as their antagonist. Maybe they'll fight a Furby.
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>>11803064

Fuck it. Until Hasbro makes a bigger one, this is my Unicron.
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>>11803126
and when they do, this can just become his moon, Lunicron.
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>>11803130

Rimshot. Although this also makes for a good update of his Cybertron toy.
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Target getting ready to ship out Stranger Things van guy
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>>11803064
somehow even as a silhouette this thing just looks awful, megatronus mold does not fit this idea at all
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>>11803157
why the hell did they use the fallen for this
liege is literally just green unicron
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>>11803054
Love it
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>>11803032
Had a laugh, saw some fags on Twitter crying that Hasbro has FORGOTTEN DotM because there's no big gift set, and the new CEO hates Bayformers, and this is all G1's fault I hate G1
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>>11803196
What do they even want that hasnt been done?
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>>11803212
There is nothing new but then the Bayformers box sets haven’t been anything new anyway, just collections of characters from specific scenes.
Scenes that come to mind for DOTM are:
Optimus, Ratchet and Sentinel from the moon landing
Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave in Africa
Bumblebee, Mirage, Crankcase, Crowbar and Hatchet from the highway chase (with an accurate Crankcase)
Ironhide, Sideswipe, Crowbar and Crankcase from the Mexican standoff
Optimus and Shockwave from Shockwave’s death
Optimus, Sentinel and Megatron from the final battle
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>>11803115
>Robot torso isn't even the beast torso folded, because of all the electronics, so it's just like this giant filing cabinet turned on its side
The lower torso disconnects from the electronics box and swings underneath. It's a bit like BW Silverbolt's old transformation.
>shoulders attach to basically nothing.
The shoulders are firmly attached to the electronics box and do not move for the transformation.
>Liger paws in robot mode can't even flip around to be melee weapons,
They most certainly can.
Do you even own the toy? Because aside from the "all the meat is in the legs" comment and the nitpick about the color of the nose tab, literally none of your complaints about the ,old are valid.
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>>11803233
exactly. The original silverbolt, with the tail fucking hanging out and the back orientation clearly wrong. or also, the bison guy, uh Bonecrusher.
>firmly attached
sorry I didn't express that properly. I meant visually, they look like nothing attached to nothing via nothing. There's no 'armpit' yknow, no 'deltoid' or 'scapular process.' just.. hangin off.
>do you even own the toy
do I sound rich? I've watched many reviews. the paws can obviously de-transform, but that's not what I meant. They can't flip around while his hands are still in use.
I did have a "a guy knows a guy" deal in place to try to get some of these from japan for a mere 250, but that fell through, so I looked at the proportions again and sour-grapes'd my way to feeling like i dodged a bullet. Was it really that hard to just move some of the shin meat up to the thighs? or just let the robot mode have thicker thighs, would that hurt anything?
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>with the tail fucking hanging out and the back orientation clearly wrong.
The torso disconnects from the battery box and swings underneath. The box itself then dislocates and folds down flush into a backpack. The torso orientation is perfectly natural, and he even has a rotating waist.
>I meant visually, they look like nothing attached to nothing via nothing. There's no 'armpit' yknow, no 'deltoid' or 'scapular process.' just.. hangin off.
They're attached to struts coming out of his sides, similar to Armada Optimus' Super Mode or Onyx Prime.
> I've watched many reviews.
Right, so now you're an expert.
> the paws can obviously de-transform, but that's not what I meant. They can't flip around while his hands are still in use.
Seriously, what the hell are you talking about?
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>>11803254
yes but silverbolt and bonecrusher DO have the tail. I'm saying it's LIKE those. I'm aware the pelvis swings down, but the abdomen kinda remains in place, and to me that looks goofy. They excuse it by making it a platform for all the extra diaclone weapons.> it looks very unnatural to me.
>you actually found a way to make the paws do what I was suggesting
huh, okay. It's more awkward than I was hoping, but... Acceptable. Okay, I was wrong. But the other points I gotta stand on. We're not really disagreeing, that's exactly what I meant. Armada Optimus's super mode, exactly. Arms are just on these struts. they don't look satisfying.. they're so thin from the front, and his torso has no manliness to it. If not for their insistence on a battery pack, maybe that area could have folded out, making ROOM for the rest of the torso block, and giving him delts. Just saying.
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>>11803256
>huh, okay. It's more awkward than I was hoping, but... Acceptable.
I transformed him in a rush for that shot - they can actually fold down flush against the back of his robot wrists, letting him go full Wolverine with no issue (well, except for the fact that his Strike Claws don't actually extend, which is a shame). The things are on a simple armature and attached via balljoint, and they're clearly MADE for you to do this. It is, after all, one of the Liger's primary weapons.
>If not for their insistence on a battery pack, maybe that area could have folded out, making ROOM for the rest of the torso block, and giving him delts.
It's not the battery pack that's the issue here - it's the Shield Liger's side-mounted missile pods that prevent you from doing much with that area, because they have to fold up into his armpits when not in use. The point of putting the arms on struts was to make room so you can deploy the missile pods freely in robot mode; it's totally a compromise made because the Liger's combat gimmicks were prioritized over the robot mode transformation. I've said it before, but it's best not to think of this guy as Optimus Prime - he's very clearly just a Shield Liger who was upgraded by Dianauts to transform, and his robot mode just HAPPENS to look slightly like Optimus. He doesn't even have a Matrix.
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Only learned that Hot Wheels Prime was a thing recently and impulse bought one. I love the heavy weight & scale but hate the excessively long fist pegs. That is all.
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>>11803281
He'd be cool if he was actually obtainable and didn't sell out in seconds and then hit $90+ immediately
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>>11803283
I agree, makes no sense to me that a company would invest so much into a project for a limited run, a waste of licence, talent & tools.
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>>11803281
I wouldnt even pay $20 for that headsculpt
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>New Bee put out an Armada Optimus headscult that's much better than the default.
>20 bucks for one head.
Man, even for 3p, this is overpriced. They released an 86 Prime kit with a new cartoon accurate head, Megatron arm and a fusion cannon for almost the same price.
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>>11803314
That's been my dilemma looking at alternate Prima heads
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>>11803083
Isn’t the Zinogre just a zoid crossover?
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>>11803314
It looks like they're putting out multiple heads, but I'm afraid of trying to pull the stock one off
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>>11803320
It's pretty easy, it just unscrews off. 86 Optimus is a bit harder, but still unscrews easily
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>>11803278
oh good point, the missile pods are probably getting in the way there.. unless they had a swivel at their base or something, then they could BE his backmeats. Meh.
I'm okay with him not being optimus prime, I just wish they'd at least made him as cool looking as lio convoy or tigatron or any of the other catformers.
I do remember wayyy back, someone did a zoids Voltron, and I wish I could find pics of that.. I google it, I get results, but it's all papercraft or chibis or whatever.
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>>11803320

Is that actually a new head or is that the 3rd Party Achai head?
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>>11802852
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>>11802858
Now I need a bayverse Drift to complete this scene.
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>>11803212
Devcon, aka that Cloverfield guy that was stomping around in the background sometimes.
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>>11803319
yeah what Anon is saying is: since Zoids gets MH crossovers, Transformers should too

I agree wholeheartedly.

Also? If they're gonna keep doing these zoids crossovers, maybe use some more complex molds instead of the simplified, babified "Wild" models
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>>11803336
I would buy this for the mot mode alone
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>>11803340
We did though.
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>>11803332
I dunno I just searched up New Bee Armada Prime head, imo middle ones paint is sloppy and not as detailed as the others
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>>11803332
Left is NewBee, right I don't know but I'm fairly sure it's not Achai's. The proportions don't match.

>>11803318
I cannot recommend enough the Origin Toys kit. $20 for a bunch of armour parts, 2 heads, 2 swords, a gun and some gap fillers is just about the best value for money there's ever been from an upgrade kit.
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>>11803319
I never realized how close its colors were to Weirdwolf before
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>>11803336
hell yeah. can I get a hell yeah?
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>>11803192
I wonder what repaints and remolds they're going to do with the 13 Primes besides Star Convoy and Vector Prime.
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>>11803352
we got ONE and then a remold of it. We didn't get "a whole line" as he said. Not yet.
>>11803353
I like all of these heads.
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>>11803361
I'd buy a retool of onyx but it'd have to be a pretty significant one.
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>>11803363
It was so disappointing I don't know why anyone would want to see more.
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>>11803368
well the early monster hunter zoids were also pretty low effort, but they got way better.
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>>11803336
this is badass
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>>11803118
1v5?
Give me a real challenge!
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Man, I love these Hot Wheels transformers so much because they roll so fucking good and look just like hot wheels in their alt modes. Got Bone Shaker full price, and just picked up a Twin Mil for $20. Would preorder the others if they weren't so much, for sure picking them up on a sale though.
Any other leaks about how many more of them there will be and stuff? Kind of sad the next two are just more sports cars. It would be cool to see a truck or something else. Hell maybe even a monstertruck for a leader or something.
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>>11803340
>Also? If they're gonna keep doing these zoids crossovers, maybe use some more complex molds instead of the simplified, babified "Wild" models
Trypticon x Gojulas when?
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>>11803433
from your mouth to tomy's ears.
that said, I'm sure the gojulas mold is swisscheeseville by now. They need to make a new one, which they almost certainly will for the 'AZ' line.
Otherwise, I mean, could do a Trypticon x Deathsaurer, but I don't feel like spending another 200 bucks
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woo, got my upgrade kit for Razorclaw
which means his old feets can go on Bluebolts' hands, and give her actual hands! Okay not perfect hands, but it kinda works in a karasutengu kinda way

I will paint them to match better later. Might as well hit her toenails with black while I'm at it. and.. why does Bluebolts have a yellow beak but only on her head?
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>>11803336

Seconded.
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>>11803457
I ASKED you for a hell yeah
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>>11803447
Oh yeah and the head is also a darker blue. I guess it isn't meant to represent the actual bird part, after all.
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>>11803447
How does she transform with those hands?
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>>11803363
>we got ONE and then a remold of it.
Recolor, not remold. Rathalos Prime and Silver Rathalos Prime are physically identical, it's just their colors that are different (and stats, if you're going by the difference between a common Rathalos and a G-Rank Silver Rathalos).
I still want a TM2 Megatron Fatalis, an Elita-1 Rathian, or (for some serious wishful thinking) a Kirin from a retooled Battle Unicorn.
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>>11803359
what?
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>>11803413
I've only heard that they are indeed getting another wave of two original molds, no clue what the choices are
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>>11803472
Considering her transformation is just kinda "have her put her hands on her hips and pretend you can't see them", I'm not too concerned, but now you have me wondering...
... okay, not TERRIBLY, but not great. I guess she turns into a griffin now.
Or I can just pop them on and off, I mean I knew the solution wouldn't be perfect (the other solution is maybe drill a hole and get Tigerhawk/Razorclaw's normal hands in there, since I replaced those too)
>>11803473
my brain is doing a senile thing where It is SURE that 'remold' meant 'reuse of mold' at some point.
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>>11803499
man sometimes you just ask for a hell yeah and you gotta get a hell yeah!
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>>11803502
Wave 2 is GT Scorcher and Segundo Coupe (and target exclusive red Twin Mill)
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>>11803524
But you already knew that
I read the post wrong
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Finally got me a real and proper modern Bludgeon for my birthday today. All of Hasbro's updates of old skull head have been failures due to him being a retool and heavily compromised super 7 meanwhile totally nailed the character with their figure....
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>>11803534
Bludgeon vs Beast Kingdom Optimus Prime fir size comparison
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Imagine if the leader Astrotrain was actually Classics (and good)
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Is Metalhawk good? The one with the shitty colours is routinely on sale for less than deluxe prices, I just can't deal with the fact that there's a more expensive one with better colours, and Metalhawk seems relatively plain as a figure and character.
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>>11803534
Happy birthday anon
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>>11803534
how are his hip joints? I collect the super7 tmnt (well, I did) and I often have to drip floor polish into those joints to tighten them.
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>>11803534
Hell yeah, I always get myself something nice for my birthdays. Have a good one anon
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>>11803568
They are a little loose but manageable. The battle skirt does help
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>>11803571
shit, that skeleton samurai is gonna bludgeon Optimus Prime! What's his name?
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>>11803591
Billy Bones
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>>11803534
I wish Super 7 would do more Action Masters
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>>11803591
Ossified-1.
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>>11803591
Bonezaitron
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I love you guys. I wasn't even trying to start a thing.
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>>11803591
Admiral Bone-to-Pick
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>>11803314
I got those on ali with discount for far cheaper and one listing I forgot which one was Optimus and Nemesis for 23$. I hope thay will make more kits.

>need to change those heads and post pics
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>Gigascouter
nani kore
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>>11803694
How much were the tariffs?
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>>11803706
>How much were the tariffs?
None for EU
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>>11803706
Do you understand how Tariffs work, in practice?
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>>11803726
do you think anyone does?
we just had a european brag that he's paying less.
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>>11803725
>None for EU
Europe pays import taxes?
WTF are you talking about
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>>11803571
I love that it looks like he's haters gonna hate walking on Optimus. Cool looking figure, I'm the Bludgeonfag who posted both versions of Tarn mold in previous threads. I like the mold, but it's undeniable that this is way better looking. My birthday is coming up next month and I may throw this Bludgeon in with my BBTS order if he's still available.

>>11803591
Bone Zone.
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>/toy/ is dying
>go to other sites
>turn 360 and turn around
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>>11803700
Please stop making me want this.

I'm sure an Legends comic will explain it all with a bunch of even more insane deep cuts.
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>>11803684
I'm mad that the japanese guy with a katana isnt called Bonezaitron and Bonzaitron the man who kungfus you aka Bludgeons you over your head isnt called Blidgeon bown
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>>11803730
I paid 90pln with coupon so it all costed me about 23$. And for us they shipped it as small gifts or something so no import tax shitshow. Xi I kneel
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>>11803732
It's a good mold but you can feel their urge to beef him up and sell for 55$ as smaller leader class.
>>11803733
/toy/, small local fb groups and normal discord servers are the only way to go.

>>11803735
Anon, I feel like retard now after I got AotP repaint to treat him as Gigastorm.
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>>11803739
Anon, that's what VAT's are when they're put on the checkout
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>>11803741
It basically just has a new horn but the BWfag in me makes me want this so bad.
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>>11803747
Still it was cheap
>>11803740
Deco grew on me. I like tactical vest look now.
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Yeah it's perfect.
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Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong!

>>11803745
I really need to do something with my AotP Trypticon. I've had him sitting in shuttle mode for months after realizing he was too big for all of my current shelves in beast mode. The new one does look amazing, though not to the point that I regret picking up the AotP. Nemesis Star Convoy is Takara repaint that's going to give my wallet a raping.
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>>11803740
>Optimus invades Afghanistan
Bay would be proud.
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>>11803771
>Afghanistan
Excuse me
It's pronounced Carbombya
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>>11803740
I like the idea of this but I don't know about the deco. Jokes aside, it doesn't really work as desert camo because of the goofy ass flame and the blue. That's also some aggressive kibble. The more I look at it the less I like it, since I'm sure it'll be $150 minimum. Even the gun is eh. It's the kind of thing that works for Gundam but less so here.
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Target SS86 line will be shown at 05.06 - Prowl, Starscream and bugs 3-pack.
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>>11803741
Is the little titan master supposed to represent Megastorm in his old body?
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>>11803740
NGL I like him a lot. Even the colours don't bother me, he's still clearly recognizable as Optimus Prime and he's quite obviously not aiming for G1 accuracy. I dunno, could be tempted.
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>>11803741
lel, the way they did this little panel makes me laugh
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>>11803725
>>11803730
Ali includes taxes in the list price
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>>11803740
>what if 07 optimus and 07 bonecrusher made love and not war on the battlefield
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Ah, the autistic urge to buy a second Wreck-Gar to have him riding himself like he did in the Movie rises once more.
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>>11803902
They have been making light of Trypticon eating Titanmasters since the toy came out. Remember this?
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>>11803741
>6th version of the mold
>Still can't close the chest door properly
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>>11803984
You could go for Junkheap or the third one if you want to feel less autistic about it
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>>11804038
I was actually planning to get both eventually anyway. Just not in any hurry because they've been shelfwarming for awhile and I don't think think that's going to change any time soon. The SS86 Gnaw/Sharkticon seems to be getting scarce and I want a couple to go with the Quintesson Judge that's coming eventually, so I think I'll go after those next.
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>>11803516
what?
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>>11803984
Damnit Hasbro, when?
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>>11803740
That's a reasonable amount of accessories, Ironhide had a thousand (who is he fighting with all of that?)
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>>11803981
Love IS a battlefield
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>>11804111
Damn, I'm not even a Gobots guy, but that deco is sick.
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>>11804111
Literally never. You do realize Bandai owns Machine Robo right? They barely got away with the Crasher
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>>11804191
Transformer fans do not comprehend this. They think Hasbro buying Tonka and owning the Gobots cartoon means they're entitled to the Bandai owned MR designs. It's like thinking WB owns Godzilla because they bought Hanna Barbera which made a Godzilla cartoon.
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>>11804111

Someone should do Leader-1using the SS86 Seeker mold.
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>>11803534
I really wish they had the ability to make a crisper sculpt and not lean int being as soft looking as a late 80's sculpt.
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>>11804111
>>11804191
They COULD do it. Bandai only owns the original toy design. They could do CyKill with Wreck Gar or another motorcycle mold.

The chief issue was Crasher was that they lost the rights to the name, hence why they had to rebrand her Crasher for a bit, since they effectively turned her into a Mirage gender swap instead of a sports car like the original figure
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>Jolt can barely hold Hot Shots gun because they made it two barrels for no reason
Every day I wish whoever designed him thought just a little more
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>>11803737
So lame, man. They totally could have kept the original design but give him a way to shift the arms up and hide a head in the sled.
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>>11803810
Looks like it. The Headmaster is the original body, Full-Tilt is a Transtector, and Trypticon is his new body.
>>11804023
I think anon was more commenting on the way they posed small Megastorm - he looks like he's willingly (and eagerly) leaping into his bigger form's waiting maw. Dude's a vore fan.
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>>11804252
>they had to rebrand her Crasher for a bit,
Fracture. They rebranded her as Fracture for a bit. That chick from the Bumblebee movie was supposed to be her.
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>>11804301
what the fuck am i looking at. What the fuck is this.
>so lame
And this is not? LOL
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>>11804344
>he needs a fucking robot to look like a human

LMAO FAG!
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>>11804344
It's way lamer and he doesn’t even have real shoulders
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>>11803810
Yeah, I’m guessing the Legends manga is going to explain it by having his Angolmois Energy removed similar to what happened to Starscream and BB and he’ll be forced to use a mech to become Gigastorm again, similar to what BWSG Megatron had to do with the Gigastorm Armor
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Some day I want a ML Jetfire. Someday...
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>>11804368
I know you mean a new toy based Jetfire, but I wouldn’t mind a ML style figure based on his animation model
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>>11804373
Isn't that the Siege toy?
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I want Bandai to be cool and just let HasTak re-issue the original G1 Jetfire.
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>>11804363
The next New Legends chapter is titled Liege Maximo's Ambition, maybe Gigastorm did get captured and Maximo pumps him with confiscated Angolmois to make him a planet sized opponent for Nemesis Star Convoy.
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>>11804349

If I wanted Diaclone I'd buy Diaclone.

>>11804368
>Some day I want a ML Jetfire. Someday...
>>11804373
>I know you mean a new toy based Jetfire, but I wouldn’t mind a ML style figure based on his animation model

They likely will. In Japan no one will mistake a Valkyrie as a Transformers toy so if they do a Skyfire design they'll go with something closer to the animation model but retro it up.
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>>11804301
We know people were already complaining about that so much for Ironhide lol
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>>11803740
Can the wheels go down in robot mode and act like roller skates like a scope dog?
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>>11804374
I guess technically, I meant more one in scale with his original toy
>>11804376
They’d still might have to deal with Harmony Gold in order to release it stateside
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>>11804390
Why not just get that one?
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>>11804241
>>11804191

Didn't they just make new Machine Robo toys in Japan anyways?
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>>11804390

Harmony Gold finally got told to shut the fuck up and let Macross stuff be released in America years ago.
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>>11804392
Heh, you’re funny anon
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>>11804400
Not like an actual ML Jetfire would be much cheaper
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>>11804400
Its also supposed to have awful QC.
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>>11803736
When the fuck will we get a cooformer named Pigeon Brown
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>>11803757
that is a nice shade of blue.
>>11803759
whatever fits on your shelf, man. that's all you can do.
>>11803902
yes that is tremendous.
>Your crazy friend has never heard of the food chain!
>>11803919
that tracks. it's all to benefit them.
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>>11803757
Head moves up higher than stock? I want one now
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>>11804191
>>11804241
and there's nothing about that that is Bandai. It's the Wreck Gar mold. What are they going to claim, stolen color scheme?
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>>11804471
you need to think of lawyers as terrorists (it works for basically every aspect of what they do)
Yes it's inevitable that they will attack you, but you are still too scared to poke the hornet's nest, even with your protective suit on.
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>>11804472
Yeah, I know Hasbro thinks "better safe than sorry", but theoretically they COULD.
They HAVE with Jetfire, despite some of his toys inching close to the original Valkyrie design. Harmony Gold tried to make a case once and were told to go pound sand.
It's just that Hasbro doesn't give enough of a shit about Go-Bot to think it's worth the hassle
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Is it true Blockees is offering "ambassador" deals for people who post Blockee TF content on social media like Instagram and YouTube that gets high views/engagement numbers?
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>>11804481
I don't think you'll be getting many deals with low lighting and piss stains on the sheets anon. Yes Blokees is the king of shilling, giving away full boxsets to people with lots of views.
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>>11804488
hey, stains happen.. sometimes it's just sweat.
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Back to the pinball optimus.

Since the motorized optimus kept breaking, why not have a ferrous pinball strike the optimus in truck mode, turning him into the cyberbot mode. Then have a magnet underneath pull him back into truck mode. That way there is only one part that can break.
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>>11804492
That's not sweat, bro. looks like food stains to me - anon must be eating in bed.
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And if they took the transformation out, what is that silver box behind optimus?
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>>11804550
now that you mention it...
Look the point is anon doesn't pee the bed. He's a grown lad with a functioning uhh.. oh it's just called the bladder sphincter? that's kinda boring, I thought it'd have its own special name. anyway, that. No coolant leaks..
>>11804551
It was nice of them to give Megatron a little nameplate in case he goes senile and starts calling himself Galvatron again.
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>>11804551
It's not that they "took the transformation out" - all of the mechanisms are still present. The problem was that, since he kept getting jammed mid-transformation, they just disconnected the motor that pulls him down. It would theoretically be possible to reconnect it and have him transform as intended, but then you'd be running the risk of him getting stuck again.
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>>11804554
>It was nice of them to give Megatron a little nameplate in case he goes senile and starts calling himself Galvatron again.
Optimus, Grimlock, and Soundwave are all labeled, too. Of the bunch, I think poor Grimmy probably needs the reminder the most.
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Can the RC optimus be pushed down or is there a motor inside that pulls it down?
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>>11804554
Prime has one next to his name too. It's a callout to the old G1 Boxes that listed their names like that
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From this angle you can see that the metal box completely disappears. I think it is a lift. The legs recede back into the playfield with an elevator. The arms and head go back into body and something moves it forward slightly.
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>>11803740
Which animated series is this prime from?
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>>11804576
Takara exclusive line, so none... yet.
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>>11804556
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>>11804557
just install a motor that unsticks him
>>11804558
>ME... Uh... Me.. Grover?
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>>11804344
The G1 Ratchet/Ironhide toy was so fucking lame that Takara looked at it and went "AIYA WE CAN'T SELL THIS" and shoved Ratchet to a mailaway in 1986 and never released Ironhide at all. Years later when they reissued the toys they always became notorious shelfwarmers and you could find them for super cheap.
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>>11804628
lmao, but an understandable reaction to the g1 toy in comparison to the character
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>>11804628
zaright? huh.
>>11804638
Yeahhh I'm surprised they didnt just quickly whip up another. a "Laser Ratchet" as it were. No, that's not the comparison I should be making, is it. Who was the second optimus prime... Ah, Powermaster. a "Powermaster Ironhide/Ratchet" as it were.
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>>11804644
Funny enough, Hasbro had the same thing going on with Reflector. Despite his Season 1 appearances, documents later found would show there was a push to not use him in the show because Hasbro wasn't even sure they'd be releasing the toy at all.
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>>11804649
ahh the ol Tigerhawk principle. sad.

speaking of, I just randomly realized I have these leftover parts from a broken movie airazor, and I wonder how hard it would be to scratchbuild together an either organic tigerhawk, or a sorta 'transmetal 1 tigerhawk' by grafting stuff onto a regular tigatron.. possibly doing further modification..
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Remember when they'd do movie repaints in unrelated lines
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I was really hoping we were going to get a Hasbro side to the MotU and TF Crossover
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>>11804659
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So what's the verdict on this guy? Decent? Lame? Dumpster Fire?
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>>11804661
That's actually a handsome cringer there. I think the silver teeth on the beast mode are better, though
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>>11804665
I'm enjoying mine, good haslab
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>>11804665
I'll let you know, if they ever ship it.
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Uhhh
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>>11804686
Oh God what the fuck is that?
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>>11804676
I mean, it certainly looks closer than what we're getting.
>>11804686
>StrikArcee
What the fuck? That's no digibash - is it someone's custom?
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>>11804689
>That's no digibash
anon why would it be hosting in seibertron's toy galleries. it is very obviously a digibash.
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>>11804689
>That's no digibash
You can literally just look up what image it's digibashed from, you stupid fucking idiot
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>>11804695
reckon he meant that's not a PURE digibash, it must also have a custom element
and it looks way, way too smooth and integrated to not be physically real. which I agree, even though I knew right away it is indeed a digibash-AND-shooping (combo)
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>>11804701
jesus christ you need to get your eyes checked
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>>11804701
What do you think "digibash" means?
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>>11804688
My wife.
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>>11804706
select one area at a time, hue shift, then fuck with the contrast and saturation til it looks right.
You're saying that includes shooping different heads on? I mean okay, that would fit with the whole 'bash' part, since that's what a photobash usually is.
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>>11804714
anon it comes from kitbashing. putting parts from two+ different model kits together
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>>11804719
well then the vast majority of what people call digibashes in here are -not- digibashes, because they are purely color-tweaks.
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>>11803902
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>>11804686
It's kinda cute in like a Xenomorph way
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>>11804829
I was reminded of the Engineers from Prometheus.
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>>11804564
So is there any chance for a genuine Missing Link Megatron or will they do what they did with Ironhide/Ratchet/Arcee and make a new G1 tank mold for him
Or Shockwave for that matter
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>>11804870
Seems like there's wiggle room with Shockwave due to being shaped like a laser gun and not a real world gun. Even the Siege mold's alt is an upside down gun.
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>>11804870
Takara can make gun megatron
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>>11804628
>Years later when they reissued the toys they always became notorious shelfwarmers and you could find them for super cheap.
The vanette isn't even bad. Boomers just hate it because it's inaccurate and leans too much towards Diaclone for them.
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>>11804628
It's a good toy, but it only works in the Diaclone play model, which is an aspect adult collectors don't care about (for obvious, understandable reasons). It's a transforming playset. It's so central that I'd argue adding articulation doesn't even matter unless you change other things.
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Sweet, my Shockwave and Skywarp just shipped from Amazon.
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>>11804471
Crasher is a redeco of a Machine Robo that hasn't really been touched in 30 years and even then they took significant liberties. Bike Robo is pretty significant and has had multiple updates. If Hasbro or Takara released a figure that looked too much like Cy-Kill it would fuck with their bottom line.

>>11804393
Yes but apparently these people NEED Hasbro to make them for some reason
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>>11804644
They didn't even have to do that. They could have created a new Ratchet figure via Protectorbot member First Aid instead of having the figure be a new character.

Hell, you could have Frankensteined an entire new team of wave one Autobots out of Scramble City bots

Silverbolt becomes a non Veritech Jetfire or Skyfire

Swindle becomes Hound

Breakdown becomes Sideswipe

First Aid becomes Ratchet

And streetwise becomes Prowl
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>>11804870
Keep dreaming.
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>>11804870
I don’t think they’ll pay licensing fees to walther, so probably not
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>>11805207
ITS THE WRECK GAR MOLD.
the toy already exists. Like I said, what are they going to claim, Hasbro used a color scheme they also used?
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>>11804870
I don't think Hasbro/Takara has the rights to the Astro Magnum mold any longer
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>>11804665
I got him, hes fucking great. Solid, holds together and can be easily posed. No QC issues on my end. Individual bots are fun, Death Cobra is eh.

>>11805307
Damn thats some engineering, how can hasbro even compete.
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>>11805307
That absolutely feels like something one of the designers has wanted to include for years now.
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>>11805307
Transmetal Tarantulas splitting shoulderpads wheel is as cool as this, specially if you know that the halves lock in robot mode instead of just leaving them flopping around like most people do.
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>>11804665
European here, still no clue when mine's going to ship.
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>>11805324
>>11805335
Since mine arrived, it's just been sitting on the couch, drinking beer all day. Is this what I paid $300 for?!
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>>11805335
3 months after US I think.
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>>11805347
I'll give you five bucks for it.
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>>11805307
>>11805333
TLK Hound has free-spinning wheels that lock in place when they become his feet
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>>11805115
eh? diaclone is way cooler and more mature than transformers
we just don't have any diaclone media to enjoy. i would have loved it if that was the main show we got.. just a cool taskforce of mecha-pilots who use a bunch of battle platforms disguised as vehicles.

and then separately, perhaps tacked on as the second half hour of the block, Microchange, about tiny sentient robots hiding in a kid's room.
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>>11805252
are they paying licensing fees for the other MLs?
not Arcee obviously
>>11805307
incredible.. hope this kinda thing continues.
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>>11805333
but the shoulderpad wheels don't spin, right?
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>>11805481
>just a cool taskforce of mecha-pilots who use a bunch of battle platforms disguised as vehicles
Sounds like a typical 90s mecha show
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>>11805484
So far the only licensed MLs (as far as I can tell) are Bumblebee and Ironhide/Ratchet
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>>11805481
>diaclone is way cooler and more mature than transformers
lmao
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>>11805481
>eh? diaclone is way cooler and more mature than transformers
>we just don't have any diaclone media to enjoy.
then how the fuck do you know it's more mature if there's no media?
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>>11804301
>they totally could have kept the original design but give him a way to shift the arms up and hide a head in the sled.
I think the reason they opted for such a different look is because making the Diaclone Vanette an articulated /character/ is a flawed concept inherently. It was designed as a mecha platform. It's not like the other Diaclone Car Robots that are closer to a humanoid mecha. If they knew the mold was going to be used for a character, they would've designed it differently from the start.
So they went back to the drawing board, and created a Vanette who's robot mdoe looks more like the Fairlady or Lamborghini molds. It still /looks/ like an 80's toy, just one meant to be humanoid from the start.
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>>11805487
That would make sense given Shoji Kawamori worked on Diaclone before creating Macross
>>11805523
NTA, but I assume they’re saying that from the expected age ranges of the two toylines, with Reboot Diaclone being marketed more towards older collectors
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Diaclone as a concept was painfully generic saved by pretty banging toys for its time, thre's a reason it got superseeded by Transformers
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>>11805317
Are you retarded? Do we really need to explain it to you again.
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>>11804740

>Fuck it, I'm out
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>>11805317
Let's examine the e-Hobby Go-bots set to see just what precedence is established for how they can use Go-bots.
Bug Bite- basically nothing to do with the Go-bots/MR toy he's named after. Different colors, different design, effectively just shares the altmode
Pathfinder- different colors, based on an early TF catalog colorscheme for Cosmos
Bad Boy- different colors, based off an early catalog colorscheme for Powerglide
Road Ranger- completely original colorscheme
Treds- the closest to his Gobots colors, but still a different shade and some deco placement. A green tank is probably hard to pin down as the same character.

So of this initial wave...almost none of them even share the deco of the MR/Gobots characters.
Now there's Crasher, who's gotten a couple of figures. But Crasher is a special case, her cartoon deco was actually original to Tonka. which means it's one of the few things they effectively own lockstock. They have the colors,not the toy design, so they're free to use it as they like, similar case with Jetfire who's deco is unique to TF, but not his original toy design(Jetfire is damn close to the stock Hikaru/"Rick Hunter" VF-1J/S, but probably generic enough to not raise much of an issue by the rights holders) .
It's very unlikely that they use the exact same deco of a MR toy even on a new mold, because that comes close to something Bandai owns. The G1 Gobots e-Hobby set was as far as they were willing to push it, and the did so by not even naming them outside the bio and changing all the colors.
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>>11805583
What about that 3 pack from a year or two ago?
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>>11805486
They do, they form the rear wheel for the spidercycle mode
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Why did trains and gays take over transformers? I can't go to /transformers anymore.
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>>11805592
japan actually invested into public transport infrastructure so trains are commonplace and beloved. also, trains are cool
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>>11805591
a lot of people leave the wheel halves loose on the shoulders, like this
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>>11805598
...despite there being tabs and slots to lock them into their proper position
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Which triple changer is the best? Is the Blitzwing really that bad. Because maybe if he goes on sale, I might get the 86 one.

Octane needs new leader class one badly DESU.
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>>11805604
>Which triple changer is the best?
Unironically double dealer
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So Liokaizer is out. Whens the next HasLab?
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>>11805487
the disguise part and the large-team part are what make it distinct
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>>11805523
>>11805517
sorry if I made it sound like I was talking about the show, since one doesn't exist
I meant the premise. the trappings. The groundedness.
>>11805531
not a they. also I didn't mean reboot diaclone, but that is a good point. Obviously they felt it made sense to make the reboot diaclone line so collector-focused

I just meant yknow realistic vehicles turning into functional battle platforms is more grounded than alien robots who can somehow fold up into cars comfortably after scanning them.
The kludging of diaclone and microchange made size-changing crap necessary, either of them on their own would have been more realistic.
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>>11805615
Primus - source TT leaker
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>>11805604
Blitzwing is enjoyable desu, I would try him, the hands suck though
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>>11805586
Same colors as established by the e-Hobby set, i.e. nothing like the original MR/Gobots colors. Small Foot's face homages the cartoon but totally different colors.
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>>11805600
The old instructions were vague about it and just how to lock them. I remember being really impressed finding that out on my own playing with the toy like 2 or 3 years after it came out. people rag on BW toys for being simple, but there's a lot of interesting engineering consideration within the figures back then.
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>>11805648
I really loved those basic figures that had a spring mechanic that transformed them
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>>11804740
>gabrine

Shit that reminds me of when I first joined /toy/
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I just hate gobots to begin with so if there's any degree of legal murk dont do em!
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>>11805481
>diaclone is way cooler and more mature than transformers
I mean the entire concept of interacting with little pilot figures. Obviously the Diaclone Vanette transforms, but it acts more like a little playset. If you're an adult Transformers fan interested in transformations and humanoid robots, G1 Optimus and Sideswipe are pretty enduring and appealing to this day (in my opinion, as someone born a decade after they came out). G1 Ratchet not so much.
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>>11805583
We still need Buggyman and Man-o-War.
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>>11805671
And Rest-Q.
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>>11805677
Is he from Cliffjumper!
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>>11805687
Close, Hubcap.
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>>11805591
yeah but i didnt think it turned
jeez, I have this toy, you'd think I'd remember. but I got it like 4 years ago from one of you fine fellas.
>>11805600
well the other way does let them aim forward so you can pretend they shoot lazors, since that's what the show did.. because for whatever reason, everyone stopped having good weapons after they stopped being organic (and sometimes even then)
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>>11805663
I guess if you think of it like a Polly Pocket then it's kinda babyish, but to me, a piloted mecha that comes with a pilot is inherently leaning into 'model kit' territory. Small parts and all that.
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>>11805307
Like a glove~
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>>11805598
>>11805600
God he really is one of the best Transmetals
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DCS is the best one, SS86 may be better than original Legacy just for colors
Honestly his biggest weakness STILL is the awful Plane Cockpit and how it just can not fold in enough. I don't care if some Nostalgiafag thinks it's G1 accurate, It fucking sucks having a chode stick out in Tank Mode
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>>11805677
I was going to say they could do two more three packs, but then I remembered that Bug Bite was already confirmed for Retro. Maybe they could swap in Slicks (aka yellow Tailgate) or something instead
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New TM Tarantulas. NEEDS to be a Voyager because not just the extra engineering involved for the motorcycle mode, but because this time each spider leg needs to be fully articulated, unlike the original toy, which only had one joint per leg. It really does not much to do since the original toy was more or less perfect. It just needs to be one slightly bigger and two extra joints. I wouldn’t mind paying Voyager price for that if they did what I asked..
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>>11805743
They're going to redesign shit that doesn't need to be touched and fuck things up. Most of those remakes are sidegrades at best.
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>>11805728
the only way he could have been better is if the legs formed proper like, believable pedipalps, and then maybe the sides of the calves or whatever folded out to be chelicerae. The original toy, goofy as it is, actually did manage to kinda approximate that without having to move the parts at all (and they were hinged wrong!)
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>>11805743
also he needs to be bigger than the deluxe regular tarantulas. Nobody got transmetalized and stayed the same size, right? they had total 'size creep'
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Decided to buy the Gamer Edition/WFC Ratchet on a whim. Looks like one of the better voyagers they've put out in the last few years. I somehow memoryholed it until today.
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>>11805395
Masterpiece Hound had a cool trick where his rear wheels could fold up to fit in his calves, just overlooked because the plastic mix overshadowed every fucking thing about that poor figure.
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>>11805753
Better ankles would sold that almost immediately by letting you rotate the feet better
I wish
Imagine
Missing Link but Beast Wars
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>>11805784
I've wanted that for ages.
that is a HUGE Bugle.
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>>11805784
> Missing Link but Beast Wars
I don’t really see much point in that
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>>11805805
go look at your Inferno again
Don't you wish he had wrists and hands? and painted claws on his hands? and slightly better shaped bug leg attachments, with more tightness? and ankle tilts? and a head more like the show (but include a toy style head too just for fun) ? and a gun more like in the show? But otherwise the same as the original. Unlike the goofy fuckin new one that has boneitis
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>>11805540
yes, please sperg out some more
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>>11805807
Nothing else needs it like g1 toys
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>>11805600
He really is almost perfect as-is. All he needs for an update are some wrists so his hands aren't always palm-up.
>>11805690
>well the other way does let them aim forward so you can pretend they shoot lazors
Missiles. His shoulder pads shot dumbfire missiles (or some kind of glowing, spherical projectiles that exploded like missiles), while his spider legs were upgraded from machine guns to laser guns.
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>>11805825
Well yeah, there's a reason they're starting there.
>>11805832
yeah that's it, quasars or whatever. the shit cheetor shoots. I always called that a photon gun... dumbfire missiles would be cooler actually.. In this shot it looks more like machineguns which is confusing.. but I love how the animators had to do the same thing we did at home, headcanoning weaponry. I always liked anytime someone had symmetrical front-facing screwholes, because those were definitely cannons to me.
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>>11805583
Oh look. It's Optimus Prime
No wait
because you can't trademark a fucking color scheme.
If you slap a similar color scheme of Cy-Kill on a totally different mold there is no infringement. Or else toy companies would be getting sued all over the place every time two figure looked similar.
>Whoop nobody door soldier figures anymore, G.I. Joe owns fatigues
>Whoop can't do barbarians either, He-Man got that look down
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>>11805837
isnt this a color scheme Gundam owns
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>>11805836
>I love how the animators had to do the same thing we did at home, headcanoning weaponry. I always liked anytime someone had symmetrical front-facing screwholes, because those were definitely cannons to me.
I always headcanoned those motorcycle exhausts on his upper arms as flamethrowers - both because it seems pretty obvious they're intended to be weapons in robot mode due to their placement, and as a bit of a gotcha to Inferno for torching him just before the Quantum Surge transformed him.
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>>11805841
You can't own a color scheme.
Bandai put out Crasher in both the black and white scheme during their heyday. If they own the rights to the white scheme then they would also own the rights to the black scheme. You're saying nobody can ever put out a black racecar toy because of that?
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>>11805837
That's not Optimus Prime, that's Robo Jogo
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I like TJOmega but I absolutely don’t get when he says that a potential TM Rattrap has to be a Voyager class figure. I can understand for TM Tarantulas because like I said, that would have to be a little bit bigger of a figure plus the complexity of the transformation to motorcycle mode Rattrap doesn’t seem to really have that much transformation. Prove me wrong though cause it was one of the Transmetals that I didn’t own back then and I had a lot of them.
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>>11805850
but, but, the color scheme. INFRINGEMENT!!!!
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>>11805837
>Oh look. It's Optimus Prime
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>>11805747
>Most of those remakes are sidegrades at best.
True for almost everything they've done since Siege. It's been a very weird and boring period for Transformers, in my opinion.
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>>11805690
>because for whatever reason, everyone stopped having good weapons after they stopped being organic (and sometimes even then)
Everyone being triplechangers ate more into the parts budget, so most didn't get any "extra" guns at all, or have guns with gimmicks like before. Thus, most just used animal/vehicle parts as melee weapons (which the show sometimes just used as guns anyways)
>>11805832
Incorrect, and your pic even shows it. Tarantulas's shoulders could fire both missiles or machine gun shots. I wouldn't call his new spider leg guns "lasers", just your bog-standard generic energy blasts. Also, he only ever uses his spider leg guns as a Transmetal ONCE, and only in vehicle mode to boot!
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>>11805844
oh yeahhh that does make sense. the quantum surge works in mysterious ways.
>>11805847
That was a joker joke.
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>>11805852
yeah no, rattrap should either be a small-to-medium deluxe or .. I mean i GUESS he could come with a bunch of accessories?
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Why are people so confused about the Go-Bots thing? Bandai only owns the original toy molds (and if we're being pedantic, anything related to Machine Robo). Hasbro could make a brand new toy of Cy-Kill and Bandai couldn't do a thing about it.
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>>11805864
im sowwy
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>>11805807
I like the new one. Decent update
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>>11805866
as I said earlier. I think Hasbro is just erring on the side of caution because they don't think Go-Bots is a big enough deal to pay a lawyer to defend, but yeah, really, they can make new toys and certainly repaint existing molds however they want.
If anything, Hasbro would probably have more of a problem with Warner Bros. because I think they have some kind of legal claim to Challenge of the Gobots cartoon, but I don't know the details of that.
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>>11805879

Yeah, WB has full ownership of the cartoon. But thats all they have, not the characters or anything else from it.

Hasbro already used the IP to make that Tom Scioli comic. It was awesome.
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>>11805876
it really isn't, it has so many problems that they had to do on purpose to include.
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>>11805862
oh, I never thought about that. You're probably right, it was the parts budget.
Still, molded guns would have cost them nothing. Just greeble things in a more weapony way!

wait he used them in vehicle mode? man my memory's bad. I found it funny how the original toy you had to lift the arms up to use the guns like in the show.. but I did it anyway.
>>11805876
he is an almost okay robot with just a few sloppy areas, but the beast parts, along with the robot hands, goooodnight.
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>>11805883
>wait he used them in vehicle mode? man my memory's bad.
It's an extremely blink-and-you-miss-it moment that happened right after a commercial break, while someone else is also shooting right next to him. You don't even see the blasts hit anything, they just disappear between shots!
https://youtu.be/SNebhMuTmj8?si=NSGdDeYEQBJgbWVZ&t=793
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>>11805847
Whether you can or not, Takara has opted to avoid anything close historically. The Gobots set share none of the colors of the actual gobots except Treds, who falls under a green tank being too generic a color.
There is apparently a limited release black Porsche robo in some markets, Japan didn't seem to get it though.
it's probably just not worth rocking the boat to homage a failed US franchise when Takara has a civil relationship with Bandai these days, down to doing some collaborations.
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>>11805900
oh wow. those read more as missile launches to me.
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>>11805690
>because for whatever reason, everyone stopped having good weapons after they stopped being organic (and sometimes even then)
>>11805862
I thought the point was that since they were now robotic beasts and organic robots, they'd use more melee/close combat weapons to show they're more savage.
Op Op, Rampage and Depth Charge just had guns though. Mega Primal is sort of borderline, he has the blaster but it's basically a club shooter.
There's nothing that would've stopped say, Cheetor's tail whip from just being a gun, so I would say the lack of guns is intentional and not just a budget thing
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>>11805906
wellllll a tail makes a much better whip than a gun
it's just a whip is a fucking terrible weapon
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>>11805902
I know they avoid it, but there's no reason to.
I mean, that's looking at Bug Bite's toy and saying its because they can't put the Bumblebee mold out in YELLOW?
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>>11805856
>Gobot Comic

So they put them together and made Starscream?
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>>11805883
What's wrong with his hands?
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>>11805852
>I like TJOmega
You're already retarded for this
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>>11805962
this is almost certainly the picture they used, and the angle (and baffling lack of foreshortening) misled them.
His actual hands are lengthy, with decently long claws, not little lego-man hands
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WrackGar just came out on NewAge's line I'd be really surprised if we don't get a Cykill out of it if you're into 3p and legends
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>>11805837
>Whoop can't do barbarians either, He-Man got that look down


Youre right but this is a really bad time to use that as an example because there was insane retarded drama recently about Sonya the Red. Mythic Legions made a homage to her for a con then someone complained about it as theft and stealing and people were even speculating it was Boss Fight trying to fuck things up because they made a Red Sonya for their lines. Worst part is they actually changed it immediately.
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>>11805994
Basically, when you get right down to it, lawyers are fucking criminals. They're like prostitutes, they offer things for sale that shouldn't be for sale. And while their customers aren't exactly innocent, they're dealing with a temptation that should have never been offered to begin with.

Until it once again becomes illegal to profit whatsoever from the outcome of a court case, except as either the accuser or the defendant, we will never have justice. Just like we'll never have democracy again until nobody can profit from the coverage of debates. Money is an important thing, it's downright sacred, like sex. And there are things it should not be associated with, so that it has the freedom to associate with literally everything else.
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>>11805950
Anon we're all reading the same page you are.
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>>11805856
this made tfwiki editors shid, piss, fard, cope, rope, and boil btw
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>>11806113
What why?
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>>11806003
I just wanted to look at cool toys you didn't have to crush my soul god damn
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>>11806113
>>11806118
It didn't, actually. Anon is just making things the fuck up to stir shit. You can fucking check the wiki pages, discussions, and edit histories yourself. There's nothing contentious, they just covered the miniseries as normal.
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I just wanna go back in time and be in charge of botcon...
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>>11806151
These are cool, but I also hate how Botcon in this era went from
new characters to G1 guys over and over.
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>>11806127
Sorry you have to share the heavy burden of the truth. I feel like the Giver sometimes.
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>>11806163
There were only two G1 characters from the BM era of BotCon: Arcee and Cyclonus.
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>>11805966
If you wanted to know why the quality of posts in this general has taken a considerable nosedive every year this (>>11805852) is a good example as to why
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>>11805879
This is the thing that a lot of fans don't understand. Every company at the end of the day makes money and if the risk outweighs profit there's no point in actually going through with it. Bike Robo figures are still on shelves and as long as it's withing squint range of similarity then there's no point in them making it.

Fanboys never get this because they think every company needs to cater to their particular demands ignoring any business risks. No normal person wants to go through the nightmare that is the US judicial system over 1 guy's obsession with an irrelevant 40 year old IP

>>11805837
This is also an absurd comparison. He very clearly does not look like Convoy in either mode. That shitty digibash is far more on the nose than any Crasher deco of Mirage.
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They should do a Decepticon redeco for Armada Jetfire to give Armada Nemesis a proper super mode.
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>>11806324
They’re probably going to given Mark's Instagram post has the original Jetfire toy holding the Spacewarp/Astrotrain gun instead
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Takara made a Titan Grimlock transformation video
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Anyone a fan of red flavour Deathsaurus?
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>>11806462
So how does the copyright for Transformers Victory and this work out that this is a thing
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>>11806467
Huh?
Do you not know Brave is Takara?
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>>11806470
Oh. I'm probably thinking of something else then
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>>11806477
There are many TF's reused in the Brave series
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>>11806470
Actually Brave is owned by Sunrise, who are currently licensing the series to Good Smile. So either Good Smile also got a license from Takara or Takara doesn’t technically own Red Geist's design
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>>11806484
>Actually Brave is owned by Sunrise
Brave was owned and funded by Takara
Bamco now owns it
> Takara doesn’t technically own Red Geist's design
They used to
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>>11806312
Okay, I'm the guy that make both those posts that you're responding to. You're agreeing with one and disagreeing with the other.

The point I"m making is that some people are saying you couldn't, say, repaint the Wreck Gar like Cy-Kill because Bandai owns the original mold, My point with >>11805837 is that, YES, it's absurd, even though they have the same color scheme they're two different molds. I've said it many times in this thread, you can't just claim a color scheme.

all I did was originally post a digibash >>11804111
and someone went into offended lawyer mode for ....some reason.
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>>11806462
just sad we can never get the HasLab Deathsaurus in those colours.
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>>11806488
Sunrise is the company that produced Brave alongside Takara until they were bought out by Bamco
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>>11806552
Right, but what does that have to do with what we're talking about?
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>>11805882
>it really isn't
autism
This the best Inferno we ever got.
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>>11806568
>look guys, there’s a new Red Geist
>how does the copyright for that work
>Brave is owned by Takara
>actually, Brave is owned by Sunrise
>I thought Brave was owned by Takara and later Bamco
>that’s because Takara worked with Sunrise before Sunrise was bought out by Bamco
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>>11805730
I'm the opposite in that I still think Legacy has the best color scheme out of all 3.
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>>11806662
I think the original toy is better
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>>11806163
>>11806204

I think there were more in the comics/fiction around it. Like a bunch of the wreckers like Skywarp and Rodimus, and Alpha Trion, Ravage and Quake but I'm not that guy and it never bothered me.

I was going through a list of unproduced Botcon exclusive ideas and apparently we were going to get a Rodimus out of Optimal Optimus or TM Rattrap at different points too. And a Predaking out of Tigerhawk.

Also funnily enough with all the talk about Cykill we almost got a rule 63 Cykill from Prime Arcee for Botcon lol
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>>11806786
Also apparently this guy is from G1 but I don't know if that's retroactive from something that came later or the intent from Botcon. Either way look at this glorious transparent red. I wish I had him to go with Burning Convoy.
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Reissue time!
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>>11806795
>$42 for one of the worst molds I've ever had the displeasure of owning
what a steal!
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>>11806795
What the fuck lead them to reissue this of all things now of all times?
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>>11806786
>Predaking out of Tigerhawk
This would have been great.
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>>1180678
Oops forgot picture. It's crazy how Dillo got a modern remake in Missing Link of all things. I was tempted to get missing link sentinel because of this for mu forever incomplete Botcon wrecker shelf but I already have an OG Dillo.

Also I forgot about Devcon!
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>>11806800
Someone probably just found a bunch of unsold Moonracers in a warehouse
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>>11806419
The ballsack storage is pretty cool
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>>11806798
dont you want to complete your battlemasters and fembots anon
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>>11806803
I feel like ML Dillo shouldn’t really count as a remake. Also, fun fact, the only reason Spittor is here is because 3H originally wanted to use the Japanese exclusive character Goosher, but then Hasbro announced they were adapting CR so they had to switch to the original version of the mold instead
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>>11806794
That's from Japan's BotCon
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>>11806204
Sorry, correction: 2.5 characters. Half of Windrazor is Swoop.
3.5 if you count Double Punch, which I wasn't.
And yeah, I was talking just the toys.
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>>11806795
I still want that critter.
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>>11806795
I forgot Siege had this shitter in it
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>>11806462
Badass. I want him to use as Shattered Glass Deathsaurus. Any idea when he goes up for preorder?
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>>11806467
Easy, Takara has no rights to the designs used in the shows, and likely can't reference any repaints. Meanwhile, any toys by the license holder are strictly based on the look and features of the TV version.
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>>11805966
Fucking how? Yes I know he’s a leftward, but I’m glad that he at least doesn’t wear his politics on his sleeve, which is why I could still engage with this videos.
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>>11806911
It's funny to think that Takara must have to pay licensing rights to release their toyrise braves even when the original transforming toys of these characters were their designs to begin with.
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Also they gonna reissue some older stuff, I really want Earthrise Doubledealer. I don’t care what you guys think if he wasn’t that great of a mold I think he looks fucking great and I want him.
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>>11802778
apparently Greenlight is getting a re-release, but $42 for her and a core class feels off. Is that worse than her original pricing?
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>>11806922
seriously. I don't ask a lot. people are free to believe any fool thing they want, we fought wars for that shit
just don't forcibly mix it into your entertainment and constantly try to brainwash people. I'm trying to escape.
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>>11806928
>but $42 for her and a core class feels off.
She doesn't come with a Core class - Dazzlestrike is a Battlemaster. So yeah, the pricing definitely feels off - but remember that there have been several price hikes since she was released the first time.
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>>11806870
Just track down a Lionizer - it's the same mold with the same colors, except Dazzlestrike has a green stripe in his gunblade.
Given Lionizer shelfwarmed pretty hard, you shouldn't have any trouble tracking one down for a decent price.
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>>11806928
>Is that worse than her original pricing?
Yes, but it's also a hell of a lot better than the around $200 she goes for on the aftermarket.
I bit and ordered her, hoping Runabout is next. Honestly Hasbro gets cool points for these re-issues and fucking over scalpers.
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>>11807051
hey you're right, not terrible. not great for its size, but at a certain point it's not worth fucking getting up from your chair to mail something that costs 2 bucks yknow
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>>11806795
>>11806798
Just leave her in combiner mode.
Terrible figure overall.
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rigged up an old zoid gun that I got by mistake in an order, with another old zoid piece meant for adapting smaller pegs, that is about 5mm, so I could replace the missing arm gun on Razorclaw! Looks okay I think, and it's disassemblable in case I change my mind.
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>>11805529
They opted for a lazy solution to appeal to toon fags.
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>>11805529
I'm glad someone gets this.
It's okay if you don't like it, but you can't act like it's crazy
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>>11807230
nobody is acting like it's crazy. They're just saying it doesn't match the original toy which was the point of ML. You can rationalize why all you want, but a lot people who liked ML for what it was doing don't see the point to this.

>>11805529
>It still /looks/ like an 80's toy
>not it still looks like the Ironhide toy
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>>11806462
Neat. Wonder how big he'll be compared to Haslab Deathsaurus. Also nice to see more toys of Brave villains, here's hoping we'll get Drais and the Dino Geists eventually.
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>>11807266
It looks a lot like it.. at least in one mode. And the other's strongly inspired by it. I dunno.. There was probably no way of winning this one for them.
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>>11807266
Goes without saying that it still looks like the old ironhide toy but better
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>>11806501
No you posted the digibash, people in the thread stated why that would never happen and you freaked out like a retard about it. Even now you're still moving goalposts saying it's "just the color scheme"
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>>11807290
>>11807292
>>a lot like it.. at least in one mode.
>>looks like the old ironhide toy but better

yep, seeing a lot of quantifiers to get around the fact that it DOESN'T look like the old toy which is the only thing ML has to do.

>Whaa, people criticizing a toy? Shill force assemble!
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>>11807306
well that's just, like, your opinion, dude

again, a justified opinion, not surprising that you'd expect them to stick with that, but
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Toxirilla
I love Toxitron reprints more than Scourge/Nemesis/Black reprints and I have no idea why
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I had no idea Botcon 1996 was so shitty and Pulp Fiction themed until today. Tfwiki never lists profiles when I get bored and look shit up.


>BotCon 1996was held onJuly 12-14, 1996, in Rosemont,Illinois. It was the only convention overseen byMen in BlackProductions, who inexplicably chose to infuse the convention with aPulp Fictiontheme. There were no guests aside fromHasbro/KennerrepresentativesGeorge BoznosandAnthony Gaud.

>To celebrate the tenth anniversary ofThe Transformers: The Movie, MiB held a "birthday party" featuring a screening of the film on a wide-screen TV and a birthday cake. A verygenericbirthday cake. The sealed VHS copy ofThe Movie—opened just for the occasion—did not actually work, although MiB were somehow able to acquire another, functional copy from an attendee after several minutes. Unfortunately, that did not alleviate the fact they neglected to produce forks for the cake. Also, water was served as a drink out of a McDonald's keg (not even that cheap Hi-C orange drink they normally use).

>The dealer room opened to the dealers for setup hours late, and was opened to "early bird" pass holders almost immediately afterwards.Dennis Bargerof Men in Black assured dealers that their wares would be safe in the convention hall overnight, as he would be sleeping in there to ensure nobody would intrude.

>No lanyards were available to dealers or attendees. Identification was done via generic "HI MY NAME IS _______" stickers, which the staff ran out of by day two, resulting in people just waltzing in unchecked by the end of the show.
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>>11807139
Razor claw is basically my holy grail. I never made it a priority to buy and now its probably too late. So jelly
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>>11807139
>>11807368

Wait I'm a retard the mask made me think it was the original.
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>>11803212
Surprised the little guys haven't gotten studio series updates. I get they have that "robot scale" rule but I think they could get away with a subline or something that lets us have, like, Blendbot and Dispensor and Frenzy and... I dunno, I guess wheelie is like a main character in the movies but I have no desire for such a thing.
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>>11807363
Green gorillas are cool in my book, but I'd prefer the fur be dark green, and the skin be neon green.
might just be the classic Teen Titans fan in me.
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>>11807365
That is.. sadder than usual.
>>11807384
wait a tic, that isn't really yellow enough, is it
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>>11807382
I want a new Breakaway. I bought him because of stupid memes from this thread when it came out but I still love him. The non movie character designs were awesome like Bludgeon.
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>>11807368
It's never too late, my good anon
I have an incomplete one with.. I wanna say a small break in one of the leg pistons that doesn't really affect anything. If you can find another incomplete one for cheap, you could complete it
I didn't think it'd sell for much, so I've just kept it as a.. yknow, leave it in beast mode, maybe use it as a weird random monster figure someday.. situation.
also the parts it's missing are pretty commonly missing, hence why I have this after buying two incompletes and making one good one.
>>11807387
>I CAN'T BREAK AWAY!!
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>>11807384
>>11807386
I cant unsee him as something like Mossman and Swamp thing. Which actually makes love it.


Botanica when. When have rocks now its cant be as weird as rocks.
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>>11803212
The Driller
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>>11803540
Thank God someone else here thinks this way so I won't feel like a complete idiot for saying this

I wish that the new stunticons had been an improved version of the combiner wars version. I know there's no material way to make it work but I really do just prefer that fully integrated kind of combiner to the modern framework version
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>>11807384
I would've bought a white fur redeco of Primal.
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>>11807386
The box looks like a shitpost
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>>11806835
I would kill got a new Windrazor I had no idea he was partly swoop and for some reason Swoop fusing to become a white Silverbolt is the coolest shit to me.>>11807384
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>>11807391
My thoughts exactly.
>>11807394
Always stand up for your feelings even if nobody agrees with you!
>>11807395
I made one! I deliberately left the fur a little messy so it'd look more realistic, but now that I look at it again, I should probably give it another coat of white.
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>>11807398
in fairness, printing was a lot more complicated back then. People were still using fucking.. plates.
>>11807399
recolored beasts are just my favorite. Have been since Primal Rage.
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>>11807400
Cool - so we have Chaos (though APelinq may be a closer match) and Blizzard. Throw T-Wrecks in as-is as Diablo, and do an orange repaint of Barney Megatron as Sauron. Some slight retooling to Dinobot and Dilophocon can make for a decent Talon and Vertigo. That leaves...who could we use as Armadon? And should we include Necrosan to the roster as was originally intended?
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>>11807400
>the lighting
>the stains
>the pubes
>the random screw
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>>11807416
so you're gonna laugh but
wait, did I not save pics of that one? well it was a repainted toy-dinobot in red with black stripes. i guess T-Wrecks is closer anyway, but I gave this one megatron's flame effect part
>>11807419
it looks much worse than it is. I'm pretty sure those are food stains and ... like 78% sure those are beard hairs.
The random screw came out of my table and I don't want to put it anywhere in case I figure out where it goes. Or maybe it was my chair. which.. would have been one chair ago, so..
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Local Walmart’s just started stocking the new stuff, I fucking love this guy so much.
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>>11807400
The piss stain table is amazing
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>>11806795
>that mistransformed car kibble just hanging off of her ass
Kek.
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Someone should shoop Tripredicus into G1 Insecticon colors.
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>>11807391
She's, like, the main character of the show

We've got a nightscream and no botanica
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>>11807448
that's either food or jizz. I'm .. I'm hoping it's food. but I'm not gonna pretend I've never once, in my life, gotten jizz on a table. I mean it happens. you set a tissue down..
the really weird thing to me is realizing how much this mold relies on being nearly all black to hide the huge gaps. holes kinda stand out more when they're on something white.
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>>11807438
That's a weird ass whale
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>>11807464
>Black mold
Courting disaster, anon.
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>>11807365
It's kinda charming how lowrent the early conventions were. Honestly the fact that they were able to get Hasbro to make a new redeco at all is pretty impressive, and it's a cool one. Apparently they had a bunch of overstock which is amazing to me because this is a cool looking toy. Nightracer was the first, but a smaller run and basically cobbled together from spare parts.
Was any other convention at the time able to commission a toy company to make a new redeco at the time? I think we take it for granted how unique that is for TF conventions.
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>>11807463
>She's, like, the main character of the show
Not possible when she was only introduced about halfway through the second season. Primal was arguably the main character - he's the first one to turn Technorganic, he's the one who gets the special connection to The Oracle/Vector Sigma, he's the mentor figure to all the other characters, and he's the one who has the final showdown with Megs - twice. Botanica gets saved from her otherwise derelict ship, then...sits in a garden for the rest of the show. She never even fights anyone.
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>>11806794
Very randomly, he's meant to be the European exclusive Action Master Elite, but the BW Scorponok redeco figure was a JP Botcon exclusive.
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>>11807493
Then I must be way misremembering, all I remember was her saving Cybertron at the end
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>>11807365
>Tfwiki never lists profiles
They do, however, give links to tfu.info under toy listings, which contains the profiles
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>>11807496
anon when was the last time you watched the show?
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I waited to for Alpha trion to go on sale, and he's actually sold out in most places. Oh well, maybe I'll get lucky and he'll pop up cheaper on ebay.
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>>11807488
Now you're just being silly.
I'd know right away, I'm hella allergic to that shit. Naw, I keep the humidity carefully controlled.
>>11807492
definitely would have loved this, but I had no fucking idea what cons were in 1996, and had no way of getting to one.
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>>11807464
>really weird thing to me is realizing how much this mold relies on being nearly all black to hide the huge gaps
Black Mold? Wait you're a V-Tuber?
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>>11806800
Same reason they've been doing all of the other exclusive reprints. It goes for $200 and they had a timeslot in the factory schedule to fill
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>>11807534
oh-
OH, haha, yes. mold. black. I see what happened. Sorry, brain no good lately. Family troubs.
I also don't get what that has to do with vtubers. prolly dont wanna know.
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>>11807091
Things going up in value over time isn't scalping you retard. The thing was in stock on amazon for months when it first released.
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>>11807496
>all I remember was her saving Cybertron at the end
...she didn't do jack shit, dude. That was Primal who sacrificed his life (and Megatron's) to release all the Sparks and reformat the planet. She was literally hiding in the little technorganic garden the whole time with Rattrap.
Seriously, did you even watch the show? She was barely even a character.
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>>11807561
I think you misunderstood anon a bit
what he's saying is that when hasbro rereleases something that goes for a high price on ebay, it fucks over those ebay sellers who were scalping (along with those who just innocently wanted to resell something they no longer want, or whatever)
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>>11807495
Dude's "alt mode" is seriously just "I tripped and faceplanted!". Does someone just throw down a banana peel every time he needs to transform?
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Man, I expected titan movie Grimlock to be limited in articulation, but it's somehow worse than I expected. The most articulation it gets is in the dino arms.
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>>11807628
Lmao I cant unsee it now
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>>11807628
the weird part to me is they didn't just give him turbo thin legs, like they did for most people whose legs have to turn into something like a gun handle or whatever.
or here's a wacky idea, have the tail turn into one leg, and then a second leg fold out from all that ridiculous bulky torso meat.
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>>11807554
It's a running meme since a ton of V-Tube girls seem to have fucking mold in their homes somehow
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>Virgin Deszaras vs Chad Red Geist

How embarrassing
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>>11807628
To be fair, that description could basically describe the transformation of any G1 Scorponok mold
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>>11807622
That's still not scalping, that's just selling something for what it's worth. Scalping would be buying up all the stock because you know it will have extreme demand or to cause artificial scarcity, neither of which were the situation with Greenlight.
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>>11807648
They're both cool and will shake hands in front of Mt. Fuji.
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>>11807648
Red Geist was used as Shattered Glass Deathsaurus - which means his bizarro world good-guy version is much cooler than his normal universe evil one.
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>>11807648
>>11807719
Deathsaurus is cooler.
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>>11807787
But what about his wife?
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>>11806795
>>11806798
>>11806800
>>11806804
>>11807551
the aftermarket on Greenlight is insane and they probably needed to reuse the trademark again.
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>>11807719
I don’t think he is SG
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>>11807802
It’s really a shame her and Lyzack probably won’t get toys anytime soon due to rights issues. Also, fun fact, Esmeral's name is directly romanized, but her name is meant to be a counterpart to her husband’s, whose direct romanization is Deszaras, meaning “Esmeral” is probably wrong
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>>11807817
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Deathsaurus_(SG)
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Esmeral_(SG)
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>>11807561
Explain why/how Greenlight became $200 or so valuable beyond "well the guy selling her said so" then retard. You don't need to buy up warehouses worth of a figure to flip to qualify as a scalper, you just have to be out to rip people off.
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>>11807829
The second one yes
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>>11807830
>girl character (rare)
>only toy of that character
>part of a combiner team, so people want to complete the set
>originally only available to some people as an online purchase, limiting availability
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>>11807644
Nope, they just game him two tails. That's why he's Double Punch
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>>11807830
High demand for low supply drives prices up
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>>11807628
>>11807644
You guys are forgetting that he's an Action Master. He has to stick to a specific body shape/size/construction for the play pattern.
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>>11807837
>originally only available to some people as an online purchase, limiting availability
This is the only actual reason
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I wish they gave him more personality for the face

At the moment all three seekers' faces meh
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How is Dark Of The Moon leader Sockwave?
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Man, Skywarp is such an asshole. Teleports in unannounced, helps himself to the Energon without asking. What a dick.
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>>11804301
Is that not... what this is??? The text says it's a different mode and everything
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>>11808038
Yeah lol, you have both options
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>>11806804
Considering she collected dust at all three of the Ollies around me at $8.99 until two years ago when some how the stock was just gone? Seems possible.

>>11807551
That seems like an interesting gamble because sometimes those values are just stagnant retards that won't budge on their "rare" items. It's the biggest problem in most communities now is that the value is just retards sitting on the stock hoping they will someday get a sucker.
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>>11808029
It's like taking Energon from a Minicon!
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>>11808028
Depends, mine had loose ankles and soft rubber elements are crime against toy production.
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>>11808078
What all is soft rubber on him
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>>11808028
meh
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>>11808081
Tip of cannon, hose, hand, blade and spikes on legs.
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>>11808089
>>11808094
I see there's upgrade kits to make them not rubber, but yeah that sucks. I didn't mind the soft rubber too much on the aoe dino bots but they were a lot smaller.
Shame, because I really love Shockwave's design here
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Is Venom worth $18
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>>11808105
I still like him but I pick up DotM voyager far often.
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>>11808143
Yes. It’s an extremely good update to the original toy. My one complaint is I really don’t like how the fist connect to the arms because the holes that the hands connect to look really thin and you have to be very careful. Otherwise there could be potential breakage.
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Despite being my least favorite of the trio, I think Skywarp's are my favorite seeker colors. I continue to enjoy this mold, looking forward to the endless redecos.

>>11808074
He's truly a model Decepticon.
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>>11807645
h-how do we know that?
do they like, have to take breaks during mold treatment, like Ross Scott did? Poor guy
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>>11807648
boy that really is a before-after pic that'd sell any exercise product.
>>11807692
yeah exactly. Both the scalpers and the innocent resellers will both suffer a little, but it's okay.
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>>11807970
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>>11808172
>Very randomly, he's meant to be the European exclusive Action Master Elite
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>>11808182
Oh right
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>>11808147
How is his size compared to say, ss86 Grimlock
Trying to get an idea of how tall and big be is
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>>11808151
I have no knowledge or attachment to him apart from the fact that he was shafted as an Euro-only toy-never-ever Insecticon and that being him sounds like suffering. Which does give him a few points
If he's individually fun as a toy, then that earns me major points though, it's a bit of a red flag that he's on sale so often, but I would assume it's just because of his coloration and no one knowing who he is
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>>11808218
they just made too many. to be authentic to cicadas.
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>>11808038
No, that is not this
They couldn't even give him the sled which was a big part of the original toy
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>>11808029
he should have a snarkier expression. why did they make him look so angry?
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>>11808224
You can just detatch the sled from the back if you want to do that
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>>11808228
no you can't. show me any pic that displays that.
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>>11808220
Hahahahaha
Ahahahahahahaha
Ok that made me exhale from my nostril
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Shockwave's my favorite character ever, and I instantly loved this design and alt-mode for him. I'm pretty happy with it overall, he's a good size and price and comes with cool attachments you can do different stuff with. But man, these guys not having any articulation in their arms really hurt them. Even a freaking swivel in at least the dino arm would do a lot to get him to do some decent poses with it.
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>>11807817
He's the Botcon Gigantron remold, but uses Red Geist's colors.
Esmeral is 100% just Red Geist with a different head, though.
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>>11808244
I'm glad that worked, that felt a bit half-assed but in a "I gotta get this joke out NOW while it's relevant" way.
>>11808228
>>11808233
I've got no horseless carriage in this race, but I do think the sled's ability to detach and be stood on is gonna be a BIG part of whether this satisfies any fans of the old toy.
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>>11808246
good lord that is a goofy execution of a brilliant idea.
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>>11808208
Two heads shorter?
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>>11808208
I gotchu anon
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Before I put this stuff on ebay does anybody want to buy slamdance and trenchfoot from me? They were in that cybertron pack and I only wanted the car.
This board's never been this dead before and I didn't realize how bad it got till I tried using the BST for the first time in years.
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>>11808272
>>11808350
Thanks a ton bros! I think I'm going to get him, fuck it. He looks too cool, I'm only going to pay like $40 and with him being that tall I'm sold. Even with the gay rubber.
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>>11808384
I think you will be happy you got him.
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>>11808357
Yeahh everything's collapsing. I appreciate this kind of thing, I'd rather sell to one of you guys when I need to get rid of something. But aside from that aforementioned incomplete razorclaw, I haven't got anything of worth to sell... well, except maybe some guys I plan to repaint. but all of those are cheap as hell on mercari and such.
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>>11808350
I have the G2 color SS86 Grimlock which I think is really nice but I really want the G1 version too.
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Hound's pretty solid and chunky, and feels better to mess with than Shockwave, although his alt-mode is really gappy in the middle and doesn't look all at great from the side. Design really works for me though.
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>>11808482
is that fur?
did they take 'hound' a bit too literally?
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>>11808491
Yeah, they even gave him underbite fangs. Really went with the whole snowmobile motif.
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>>11808491
anon did you miss Shockwave also being an animal?
Cyberworld does wacky things for shits and giggles. Megatron is a bull
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>>11808403
where do people even sell anymore, ebay is worse than it was, there mobile apps or something? I miss selling to anons here, but the non bumpable threads here basically killed the fucking board.
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>>11808497
oh, this is that?
still, i didnt know they were doing ... random shit like adding fur to vehicle guys.
>>11808499
just ebay and mercari. they get rich and we barely break even.
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>It's so bad now that people are unironically hyping up Cyberworld
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>>11808491
He’s Sabertooth
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>>11808599
it has a lot of good aspects to it... it's just yknow, baby shit.
>>11808606
Ohhh I get it now.
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>>11808599
Wild King W will save everything
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>>11804191
They made thrilling 30 whirl and roadbuster. Nothing is stopping them.
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>>11808706
What do Whirl and Roadbuster have to do with that?
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>>11808599
Where have you been, Cyberworld has always been fun
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I wanted to see if a trans metal 2 looked good in a realistic paint scheme and it feels cursed.
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>>11808759
yeah now it's just a regular mutant instead of a cyborg mutant
parts of it do have kind of a neat 'magitech' feel, but...
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>>11808739
Braindead toddler post
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>>11808246
you know these cyberworld toys dont look bad on paper but really suffer from awful budget and kiddy factor. if these were generations releases in AOTP they'd be pretty cool to have all these weird designs like polar bear Jazz and Spinosaur Shockwave
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>>11808878
why's that? explain your opinion
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micromaster bros we eatin gud
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>>11808878
Explain what you don't like about it.
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>>11808924
DAGUWOOOOON

ORE TACHI DAAAGUWOOON
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>SS86 Prowl still has >>11808934
the wrong head
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Never panic buy. This is a MTMTE Target exclusive.
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SS Prowl. No clear plastic.
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SS star
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scream
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>>11808999
Damn it, I kinda wish I'd held off on the DCS set (because I would prefer solid yellow to the clear plastic on their chests), but these also don't look demonstrably better to the point that I want to double dip.

>>11809001
Fucking finally.

>>11809004
>He's doing the smirk

Nice, just what I wanted from new mold Starscream.
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>>11809001
>>11809002
>>11809021
>seven fucking years to get a decent Prowl without any other bullshit
I'm so fucking tired
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>>11809029
>I'm so fucking tired
Why not just be happy?
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>>11809034
>happy that it took seven years for something that should have come out normally without tricks like pretools, multi-packs, exclusivity, battle damage, or battle damage that other time
>after like five fucking price hikes
How about no
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>>11809029
>a decent Prowl
It's not a decent Prowl. He still has Bluestreak's head and car bumper like ER. The boxart is practically false advertisement.
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>>11809040
>he's right
re: I'm so fucking tired
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So us third worlders are just screwed if we want any mtmte collection exclusives... I think I'm good with the regular insecticons though, I've never liked how bland gray chest Bombshell is.
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I regret not getting the takara pack now. I feel silly
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>no coronation gear with scream
How long until they double dip or will they just avoid it entirely?
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>>11809056
Which one?
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>>11809069
Insecticons one with the mini alt mods and cubes
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>>11809001
>>11809002
Does he have the shoulder cannons or what?
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>>11809087
I believe only Bluestreak and Smokescreen had them in the cartoon
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>>11809075
what mini alt modes?
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>>11809123
The alt mode Megatron, Shockwave, and Reflector that other figures can hold
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So that's all three seekers then
How long until we see a conehead?
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>>11809132
Oh. for a minute there, I thought little insecticons were included.
and they SHOULD BE
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>>11803740
This would be so cool if it wasn't for the color scheme.
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>>11809133
They'll do Ramjet and Dirge right away
and then make one Thrust and bury him in a cave in Tibet
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>>11809139
Clearly they’re going to do a Optimus vs Thrust set so you can recreate Thrust's iconic “getting hit” scene
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>>11809135
Blokees did that
My Kickback came with a baby Shrapnel
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>>11809154
I know but I don't want to buy a bunch of Blokees just for three little accessories.

They should've had mini insecticons on 5mm ports so you could attach them to figures like they're creeping and crawling on them
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>>11809151
>gotta buy SS Optimus again just to get Thrust.
Yes, I could see Hasbro doing this
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>>11809001
Is this the Earthrise mold?
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>>11809001
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>>11809165
But this time he'll have the iconic Thrust Reflection (tm) decaled onto his grill.
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>>11809177
definitely see Hasbro pulling this
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>>11809151
>>11809165
>>11809177
>>11809193
I'll be livid if we get this before a Nemesis or Magnus SS86 Prime.
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>>11809194
>Magnus SS86 Prime
This will never happen.
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>>11809004
>>11809001
>>11808999
So do we have preorder dates for these or no?
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>>11809228
They'll be instantly sold out regardless, why does it matter
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>>11809151
Thrust Isekai spin-off when?
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>>11809228
Tomorrow. They're target so who fucking knows when in the morning
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>>11808924
I dont care what autistic japanese boomers say, toyrise is fun. if they want accuracy they can go buy one of the many chogokin-likes that get floppy within a year.
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>>11809262
Well, shit. Thanks though anon, best of luck to anyone who wants these
>>11809235
A man can dream, anon
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>>11809151
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>>11808999
What's up with this random stick of plastic?
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>>11809343
Think it is supposed to be Energon cubes.
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With animorphs getting a new TV show, what are the odds we get new animorphformer toys?
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>>11809349
Low.
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>>11809349
>With animorphs getting a new TV show,
What.
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>>11808024
So all of us knew this leak was fake right?
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>>11808888
>>11808930
"huhh??? whaaa???? What dis mean?""

Fuck off back to redit already holy shit. COMPLETE inability to think critically or conceptualize ideas
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>>11809385
Curtains are never blue.
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>>11808999
>>11809001
>>11809004
I'm not even kidding, Find the department in charge of these decisions and string them up in a courtyard to be picked apart by Crows
So god damn fucking tired of the constant insulting dogshit Hasbro pulls. I want this company under already
Nonstop backroom dealings for bullshit store exclusivity that THEY KNOW they won't won't even remotely see hit physical shelves
I'm buying JP.. These turd cucking trogs can shove it
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>>11809388
oh my
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>>11809349
>With animorphs getting a new TV show,
The slop machine never stops
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>>11809418
Do a loop
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>>11809418
Do a barrel roll!
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>purchase Liege Maximo
>oh this is pretty cool
>notice that he’s missing a piece of his side hipskirt
Maaaaaaaaaan
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>>11809388
>can shop physical
Well look at Mr Gucci loafers here
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Looks like Gigastorm is ¥81,400 on TakaraTomy Mall meaning he’ll probably be $300 on BBTS and Hasbro Pulse
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>>11809418
wear your alien mask and fool him.
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>>11809526
Is there really anyone out there who was asking for this shelfwarmer?
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>>11809526
>We have Unicron at home.
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>>11809526
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>>11809004
looks good, shame I won't be getting one
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>>11809526
>>11809534
>leader class
>of a comics-only generic and a UT trilogy toy reference, as much as I like Marvel
>leader class
???
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>>11809534
fucking hell that turret is ASS
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>>11809002
Pass, not even a new head when the dead version got one.
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>>11808999
The milky white looks blah. Would have preferred white or light grey.
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>>11809547
>>11809547
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>>11809404
funny, you guys didnt object back in the day when computer morphing tech came around so you could make people turn into animals on TV without having to hand-make every frame of it with a real puppet
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>>11809449
if you can show proof of purchase to hasbrony, they will send you the piece. They almost did that for me but I didn't have the receipt since I got it on ebay.
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>>11809526
Ya i'm still convinced they shouldve use liege
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>>11809526
The fucking head sculpt is so fucking bad, no way I'm buying that for over $30
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>>11809526
>>11809534
Not bad, but I'll wait for a sale. I still have the Cybertron one.
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>>11809343
Energon cubes... cubes... cubes..
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