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TAOOBA!
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What a great character, I cant wait to see him in future seasons
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THAT'S TAOOBA!
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>>219780089
egg is icsh
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>>219756610
constantinople could have a single inhabitant and it would still eclipse the cannibal city which didn't figure out how wheels work, or how to enter the iron age 4500 years after the old world did it. stop listening to whatever woke californian "historians" telling you about the amazing cannibal "empire" that was wiped out by 150 chad spaniards and some good ol' fashion elbow grease and cunning.
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TAKUAAA
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....semoc eH
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cigaM
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!on ,on ,oN
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rate my casting choice
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>>219780576
So the ending of the series is that Jaime just gets hanged and dies?
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>>219786998
Cavill's already playing DaemonB in the flashbacks. Egg almost leaked it.
https://youtu.be/kcoIoeQYTLQ?t=33
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It don't matter at all where you've played before
Kingslanding's a brand-new game
Tryin' to be a hero, winding up a zero
Can scar a man forever right down to his soul
Living on the spotlight can kill a man outright
'Cause everything that glitters is not Lannister gold
And all the gold in Westeros is in a bank in the middle of Visenya's Hill
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rewatching got for the first time since its original run and it's been a fun experience, i know like 70% of what happens but the devil's in the details. I got such chills down my spine when Rains of Castamere started playing at the red wedding. It's haunting in a way that's easy to miss the first time when you don't know what it means.
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Who is the smelliest Stark?
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>>219780089
cancel the high septon now!
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>>219790527
As Bittersteel you mean
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>>219781701
luke is icsh
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>>219791429
Vigo would have been good as Aeron Greyjoy.
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>>219791005
being dressed as a northerner and asking for the protection of the seven is perfectly in character, like how Hegseth LARPs as a Crusader despite belonging to an evangelical church whose pastor says in his ideal country practicing Catholicism would be illegal
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26 years old. He was a fucking kid.
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I dropped a g
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why doesn't egg just tell dunk he's being played by a crown rebel? dont they teach him who the rebels are in the targshit school
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im pretty sure most of those films are just ass. i've seen vertigo and it's super boring and lame by modern standards, even comparing to some 70s detective films that kick its ass. im sure 99% of the praise for most "classic" films is just because film students get forced to watch it so its ingrained into the collective brain of the film industry.
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I feel like most of these aren’t even critically acclaimed for like, technical or innovative reasons. Its literally just pop culture slop from a different decade.
Like imagine watching Singin in the Rain and being like “well thank god i’m finally intellectually stimulated” lol.
I think the list is a troll because Avatar is also there
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>>219794176
You are starting to see cracks in the show's quality and notice abandoned plot lines
On the upside, you are happy to see Danaerys' story finally getting interesting, but worry that this is as good as it gets
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Anyone feel like making one for Dunk&Egg?
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>>219794547
The twitter blowback from Ramsay having rough sex with Sansa and the blowback from the spectacle of the Shame Walk all hit them in the space of like a month. So they adjusted the writing. The cracks were already there but if you want the one thing that made D&D incapable of making a passable ending it was that. Plus thats also the point where they realized the show was too big to please everybody and were like “we gotta get out of here” and tried to defuse the mess by lobbying for movies to end the series.
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>>219794547
the books go to shit after the third one and then the fat man abandoned them, which left the showrunners to write an ending themselves, which wasn't what they signed up for. As uneven as late stage game of thrones can be sometimes people who pretend it's the Room-tier bad are either delusional bookfags who created an ending in their head years in advance and then got angry their headcanon didn't pan out or some kind of hysterical liberal woman who couldn't handle Dany's ending.
GoT is still my 2nd favorite show after the Sopranos, warts and all.
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>>219794732
No she’s still at it
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>>219795278
literal sex pest
I like in the books when Winterfell is surrounded, Luwin tells Theon to take the black to spare his life. In response, all Theon can think about is all the wildling pussy he can smash.
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I think a lot of people would never laugh again if they experienced just the emotional pain Theon went through, to say nothing of the physical pain. And yet, he comes through it and recovers his identity as fun-loving Theon. It's really admirable; a lesser ordeal broke Tywin.
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if he had burned winterfell and taken Bran and Rickon for ransom he'd be hailed as a hero of the Ironborn
he's retarded in that he tried to hold an indefensible castle that was strategically unimportant
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Is it just me or did the costume/armor quality from HOTD S1 to S2 decline massively in quality. These random extras have more ornate armor than most of the main cast in S2.
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>>219797681
>To be a knight, you must stand your vigil in a sept, and be anointed with the seven oils to consecrate your vows. In the north, only a few of the great houses worship the Seven. The rest honor the old gods, and name no knights ... but those lords and their sons and sworn swords are no less fierce or loyal or honorable. A man's worth is not marked by a ser before his name.
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Littlefinger on his knees and begging for his life to Sansa is enough to put me off from season 8.
Here's the guy that wasn't afraid of Brandon and challenged him to a duel for Catelyn, the guy who robbed Robert and Jon Arryn until Westeros was effectively broke and instigated a continent wide war by playing Tywin and Ned, fooled Varys Blackfyre the whole time, putting his life and worse on the line at all times, and now here he is begging and crying like a child.
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Mostly other houses in the White Harbor sphere of influence
Plus some northerners have been knighted for accomplishments despite not going through the traditional means of standing a vigil in a sept (such as Jorah Mormont and Helman Tallhart)
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So like, does everyone but Theon realize he’s supposed to be alienated from Baelon so that when Baelon dies and Theon takes his seat they effectively have a Northern Lord ruling over the ironniggers instead someone of their own miserable failure of a culture?
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I don't think we know for certain besides the Manderlys. Maybe the Whitehills since their sigil has 7 stars but that just speculation
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Why were the Whitehills even working for Roose if theyre sworn to house Glover, and theyre located on the far west side of the north while bolton is on the east?
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Maybe House Wells since there is a guy named Theodan Wells who joined the Warrior's Sons in Feast. But there are two houses called Wells one in the North and the other in the South so he could be from either of those.
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>>219798891
The Forresters are sworn to House Glover and the Whitehills are sworn to Bolton
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someone care to explain to me how these two houses have border conflicts with eachother when theyve got fucking winterfell between them
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>>219799186
Did you really miss Ironrath?
lol fucking retard
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kill YOURSELF you retard
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>>219799250
The wolfswood covers a large area dude.
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because you somehow didn't see ironrath, the seat of house forrester, borders the whitehill lands. the wolfswood isn't a tiny forest to the west of winterfell, it's an expansive area to the north, northwest and west of winterfell that is home to several houses.
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BENEATH THE COPE
THE BITTER SEETHE
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No they are just the lords of Ironrath shown here >>219799186
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they own the wolfswood
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They are lords of part of it but not the whole thing.
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They're *a* house in the wolfswood, sworn to the Glovers
The Glovers are basically the northern version of landed knights, a masterly house, and act to help administrate the vast Stark holdings. Tallharts are the same.
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Yeah, glovers are barely a house, they have “clans” that are sworn to them. Really the forresters should be more like the mountain men of the vale then the lordly house they are in the game. They probably wouldn’t even have a sigil
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Both houses are in the Wolfswood and both are sworn to House Glover which allows a clear path for conflict that doesnt involve greater house conflict.
Whitehill being sworn to House Bolton begs the question of where the fuck House Glover is during all this shit to protect their bannerman
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That sounds retarded, and pointlessly changes the established lore.
>begs the question of where the fuck House Glover is during all this shit
Ironborn took their seet, anon, and the brothers Glover are, at that time in the game, dead or captive
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>>219799679
Well putting aside all the bullshit between trying to reconcile what goes on in the books and the show the troubles start after the Red Wedding when House Glover along with many other houses have been fucked up and the Boltons are now Wardens of The North. Anyone who wants to fight them must do so carefully or can’t at all.
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>where the fuck House Glover is during all this shit to protect their bannerman
Asha took Deepwood Motte before the Red Wedding went down. I'm sure any of the House Glover forces still in the North were busy getting there shit pushed in by the Ironborn.
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They're the lovable wild card the other kingdoms keep around to keep things interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos
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>>219799986
You could ask the same question about Cersei. Westeros doesn't really have any social problems that would reliably generate large-scale conflict so Gurm needs to have some retards who fuck everything up without anyone lifting a finger to stop them.
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In Robert's case it actually makes a bit of sense though. It's 100% believable that he would spare Balon just so he might get the chance to fight again.
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imagine marrying a Baratheon princess
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>>219799133
King's Grove is where Highpoint should be and why they have a feud with the Forresters at Ironrath.
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And this is where Ironrath should be
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>>219801201
season 1 bran is icsh
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>>219800645
I think the whole burning Shireen thing can be the point where we all agree that Gurm is actually too edgy. That, and the fate of Tommen and Myrcella. You can just tell he blew his shock value load with what he did to the Starks, so he decided the only way he could keep it up was to start killing cute kids.
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>>219801515
Shireen WILL survive in the books.
Stannis will himself go to the pyre to kill the Others before killing her.
She WILL marry my self-insert and rule Westeros with our cute children.
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That's the best part, the books will never come out so I can ignore gurm's retarded headcanon and make my own ending where all characters I like have happy endings and get married, while all the characters I dislike die, get cucked or get banished to Vaes Dothrak or wherever the whores go.
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Shireen Baratheon, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Daughter of Azor Ahai, Stannis Baratheon, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm
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>>219800154
>try to make peace with Lord Whitehill by marrying his daughter to avoid battle
>mother chimps out and tries to kill him which starts battle anyway.
That fucking game man. What’s the point of choices in a game if the outcome is always the same telltale?
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>>219801890
I never liked her much, but I can fully understand why Dany fans would be mad about that, and I don't really see how George can conclude her storyline in a way that doesn't feel like a colossal waste of everyone's time.
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Which honestly makes even less sense than making her queen. What was the point of her being a POV character?
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>>219802076
Do you think he didn’t advise them at all about how it ends? All of the meetings and the time they spent together and what it amounts to is dnd just making some random shit up?
There’s no chance of that happening, and Daenerys going mad queen makes sense, it’s poetic.
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You can't use the real world as an example since George's world is even more fucked up than our own. You are far more likely to starve or get tortured, maimed, and killed in Westeros than at any point in the real Middle Ages. At some point it just gets tiring from a writing perspective and I wonder what the point of it is, like with the maiming of Tyrion and Brienne.
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Sorry man, canon is canon, you can’t just say it’s not canon because you don’t like it
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>You are far more likely to starve or get tortured, maimed, and killed in Westeros than at any point in the real Middle Ages.
lmao dis nigger has never picked up a history book in his life.
but really most of the stuff about the riverlands during the war reminds me directly of the accounts of the Thirty Years War.
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>>219802211
Her entire storyline is just an agonizingly slow buildup to failure. Six books of her just fucking around, only for it to amount to nothing in the end. Imagine if Renly was a POV character for several books and then he just dies without doing anything; that's what Dany is.
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>>219802236
The ending will be significantly different but the core of it will be similar.
Dany being mad queen is nailed on because it hasn’t been subject to fan service or the showrunners agenda. It is 100% canon, it can’t not be. The whole series has been built around that point. It’s clear to see Daenerys is the main character and this is the twist of all twists
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It’s a cautionary tale about the dangers of putting your faith in a charismatic leader, how people’s blindness to the faults of those they look up to leads to the rise of tyrants, and how their followers, once fully on board and commited, will abandon their morals and follow their leader straight into hell and destruction like a cult. The people who refuse to admit dany will go mad are the same people George is trying to warn and critique
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Do you think it happening 200 years after changes the scale or brutality retard? I brought that up anyways since that's obviously where he got a lot of his inspiration from since the war crimes by both sides were recorded in detail. How about the Mongol invasion of Russia and hungary? How about tamerlane? How about the sack of jerusalem? The sack of constantinople? The english raids in across wales, ireland and scotland? There was tons of fucking slaughters you moutbreathing retard.
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>>219802598
You can’t deny that her cause is noble though. I mean her insane incestuous blood magicker ancestors raped the kingdom with dragons 300 years ago, so like she’s kinda entitled to do the same you know? That’s how that works
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>>219802565
What makes you so sure of this? George is a gardener style writer and we’ve already seen that George is susceptible to public opinion with him openly admitting he’ll might change Sansa’s fate due to how popular she was in the show. Why is Danys ending so certain?
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Why did the Mad King go mad? Because he was secretly a Seer™ and saw what the whitewalkers would do in his dreams, but didn't know if it was real. But Dany already knows about them, so there's no reason for her to go mad.
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Show ending but cooked with the detail and care it deserves. Westeros rejects the fuck out of her, she goes Aegon the conqueror mode instead of just returning to Essos where she belongs out of a sunk cost fallacy after a bunch of her close friends die in the Invasion, but then she falls for Jon and she pauses her conquest to deal with the walkers, the world is saved but she immediately wants to continue her war. Jon is pure duty now, cold, the boy is killed, he kills her to spare the realm more war and destruction, then he goes north an exile
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People say that dany vows not to be like her father but does she actually? every time she thinks back on Aerys it’s through viserys rose tinted filter, she thinks her father was done dirty, that the usurpers dogs unfairly murdered him, and she vows to avenge him and kill everyone involved with Robert’s rebellion
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It is another brilliant tragedy in theory, but I feel like it only works, as with so many other aspects of the story, in the context of a trilogy. I stopped caring about her story after the first book and after that I was just rooting for her to die.
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> gardener style writer
You fucking retards take this shit too literally, you think he was in the board meetings at HBO getting paid millions per episode as a consultant and when asked for ideas he says “well you see I’m a gardener style writer so really I don’t know which direction it will go until I write it” not a fucking prayer he knows what the end looks like just not the specifics, and some of the ideas will be nailed down from before he even started to write.
Bran being king might even be canon even though it’s retarded
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>jon is actually ned’s son with ashara dayne
>he will become king and marry dany
>gendry gets legitimized becoming lord or storm’s end and marry arya
>sansa will marry harry the heir who will become lord of the vale
>robb’s unborn son with jeyne will get the north and become lord of winterfell
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Yeah, it would have been perfect if they just skipped through her slave abolition arc and went straight to Westeros invasion. It made her character too complex for the normoids and made it so now they will never accept her morally slipping, they won’t ever accept it and will just call it bad writing
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season 7 and 8 are absolutely flawed and I don't blame anyone who has problems with em but I can't believe there are retards who try to say s6 is bad because "why didn't shansha tell Jon about the Vale? Why didn't they give Dawn the proper importance in the Tower of Joy flashback a bloo bloo"
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It has its moments but like S5 it’s pretty mid overall. It drags a quite a lot and has dumb stuff like BOTB as well as the start of Arya being a ridiculous anime character. Pretty good open ending finale episode though, good place to stop.
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>need a map for my story, ill just take scottland and turn it upside down
>need a plot, hmmm what if one faction in the war of the roses had dragons.
>got to name all these characters... hmmmm, Gwen, gwendolin, gwendolina, gweniffer, Gwon, and Jacob, there, that out to be easier to remember.
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>>219802268
My problem with the whole series is that yeah it seems obvious but its been so fucking long now. Like Evil Tyrion was once obvious but I don’t think he’s still doing that and he straight up admitted he was going to kill Sansa until the show version made him think he would keep her alive.
Like it doesn’t feel like we’re correctly reading anything from the House of Undying or any of the other mystery boxes anymore because the plan has changed drastically since he wrote all that. And there’s no way the HBO backlash didn’t send him back to the drawing board he literally lives for adulation from the biggest of his superfans. He also wants to fuck Daenerys
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That whole gimmick is the worst thing about him. He literally admits the first three books were a race to the Red Wedding. He wasn’t a “gardner” until he got a big head after Storm and its just his way of turning “i wrote several drafts” into a way of hearing his own voice for five minutes while he explains it. Everybody writes drafts
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Do you think a cotf and a giant ever had a baby together? After millions of years it had to have happened at least once
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Why didn't the Ironborn take back Bear Island after the wrestling match. They have bigger navy then the North and the majority of the North's navy is in White Harbor. They'd have to sail around the entirety of Westeros to get to Bear Island and have to pass the Iron Islands on the way there where the Ironborn would have plenty of opportunity to ambush or hinder them.
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>I like in the books when Winterfell is surrounded, Luwin tells Theon to take the black to spare his life. In response, all Theon can think about is all the wildling pussy he can smash.
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>Boltons have knights?
"Knights" are just an formalized evolution of the war bands of prehistoric times; the group of warriors who fight for and defend the leader and share in the loot.
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>someone care to explain to me how these two houses have border conflicts with eachother when theyve got fucking winterfell between them
That map is wrong.
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>>219801222
i used to be icsh now i'm just vh
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Gurm claims he has a strong preference for morally gray characters but he's actually just lying and everyone tends to be a flawed good or just evil to some degree. Only Stannis is truly gray and he doesn't care about him.
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>...but we are not men. <smirks>
NAY
WE ARE BUT MEN!
https://youtu.be/_lK4cX5xGiQ?t=159
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Shagwell is cute!
CUTE!!!
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>Only Stannis is truly gray
you don't actually believe this anon do you?
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Tyrion being a secret Targ is gay. Tyrion becoming more cruel and ruthless like Tywin is kino.
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Did he really count all the blades on the Iron Throne?
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