>>219795286
Why is that gangly ass white boy in the background wearing a cuck mask?

>>219795308
Me on the left

>>219795286
The best part is, they'll smugly claim that I'm the reason it was canceled.

>>219795286
>"Jess Bush acute"

>bright-eyed visionary guy makes a completely original TV show about exploring the endless possibilities offered up by the universe
>instead of viewing this trailblazing work of art as an inspiration to become more imaginative and creative with their own projects, TV and film producers see it as a cash cow and spend the next 60+ yeas turning it into a "franchise" and milking every drop of it long after the dead horse is capable of offering anything exciting or unique
poor gene. he was simply too successful for his own good.

Isn't there supposed to be one more season, that got filmed before the cancellation?

>>219795684
Yo see that interview where he fantasizes about being a burglar and raping his daughters or some shit?

>>219795717
Correct. It's out there. Lurking. Waiting.

>>219795717
Half a season

>>219795308
He's an undercover ICE agent.

>>219795286
the satisfaction knowing this garbage was canceled is so amazing. hey, I would have loved to have been there when they told these cocksuckers the good news. especially the klingon.

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>>219795286
>It's over
Good, that shit had no business being made in the first place

>>219795286
padded bras, spandex and makeup should be outlawed.

>>219796055
The Office ruined television

>>219795286
Weird circumstance where this girl was hot as fuck only in this role, if you look at the actress normally she is borderline ugly. The cute hair and pale skin was doing majority of the lifting

>>219796055
is this actually from a real show what the fuck. it feels straight out of a le quirky super bowl ad.

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>>219796409
Higher rated than DS9!

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>>219795286
>It's ove-ACK!!!

>>219795286
I actually thought SNW came close to actually being Trek and not just nuTrek slop. Then I rewatched s3 and the Vulcan episode broke my delusions. I won't even pick on the obvious camp bullshit like a musical episode, I'm talking about basic character and writing in the episodes, Trek knowledge in general.
Somehow the injections to make them Vulcans even change their hairstyles. Even though it takes a lifetime for a Vulcan to master logic and not be overwhelmed by emotion, they're doing the worst "fascinating" type Vulcan parodies immediately. One of them even turns Romulan (because they're genetically predetermined to be violent and conspiratorial I guess? What the fuck is the lesson here?). Not only plot rape, but some of the worst Vulcan acting ever put to film, everyone's a fucking cartoon character. It did give me some respect for nu-Spock though, he's at least in the right ballpark.

>>219796440
shit. art is dead and it's not ever coming back

>>219795286
Such a qt.

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>>219795286
>Sickness is still a concern in the far future where bending time and space to travel and machines that make any kind of food out of thin air exits

>>219796409
Basically they encountered some anomaly that makes everyone sing and dance or some shit, so you get this garbage. And the retarded thing is that they could have retained some dignity by making the klingons perform a klingon opera but no, you get this shit instead.

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>>219796055
what the fuck was the story reason for this

>>219795684
>completely original TV show about exploring the endless possibilities offered up by the universe
I was surprised when I watched a few episodes of Star Trek for the first time and found out it's actually hardly about space and shit at all, but more like... whatever they wanted really. Society and the future and shit. I can't say I was a big fan, but it blew my mind because I had grown up assuming Star Trek was just a lame version of Star Wars, but it was very much not.

>>219796055
holy jesus

>>219796466
You could have stopped when they had forced Vulcan sex scenes in multiple episodes before the Vulcan transformation of the crew happened.

Prodigy season 1 was good, somehow combining its two goals to great affect.
Goal 1: teach new, younger viewers about the basics of Star Trek. By doing do, they had to actually... stick to the basics of Star Trek. None of the inane plots and terrible writing found in other nutrek.
Goal 2: use references and past lore WELL, not as a jokey deluge of unoriginality like in Lower Decks. In particular, Prodigy's a stealth sequel to Voyager.

Season 2 shits the bed with an absolutely terrible plot and writing, and culminates in the baffling desicion to directly link itself, partially targeted towards younger viewers, with fucking PICARD of all thingd.

>>219796055
this episode didnt not upset me, in fact I thought it was very star trek, like something Q would do to the crew in TNG.

>Page 10
Truly over

>>219799698
To be fair very few people have seen this show

>>219795286
she has quite the bush

>>219799800
ayy

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>>219795755
Lol, classic Gene.

>>219796055
>random meaningless UI bullshit to clutter the screen

>>219795717
S4: 10 eps
S5: 6 eps

both 4 and 5 (final) have already been shot

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>>219795308
>i ain't wearin no cuck mask!
based pozzed retard.

>>219796466
>Not only plot rape, but some of the worst Vulcan acting ever put to film, everyone's a fucking cartoon character.
well thats because the stupid cartoon lower decks was the only nu trek to do be received well at all. so they now ham up the live action nu treks in hopes of cashing in on that slapstick BAZINGA humor.

>>219795286
Wow, great chair design

my favorite parts of star trek academy:

++the suicide nets on the golden gate bridge. i like how mass suicide is a still problem in future san fransico, and a bridge that has existed/been rebuilt for over 1000 years is still used by people to kill itself. but the smart people in the future put up suicide nets! what a WONDERFUL hopeful view of the future!

++when some stupid alien leader from a planet that has been isolated from the rest of the galaxy for hundreds of years - came to speak at the academy was apparently mute, so he couldnt speak.,.... so.... he used ASL(AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE) to give his speech. because, obviously, aliens isolated on another planet on the other side of the galaxy from earth, would develop the exact same method of hand-gesturing communication we have here thousands of years in the past! this is such great reprenstation for mute people!!(0.00000000001% of the planet) who cares if it doesnt make sense in the world, we get REPRESENTATION for a handful of people(who will never watch this show)!! the virtue signalling messaging is definitely more important than writing a logical story that makes sense within the fictional universe it takes place in. we need to keep our priorities straight!
++also i like how 1/3 to 1/2 of all people in the future are morbidly obese. even at star fleet academy, where the best of the best of the human race gets exclusively chosen to train and become humanity's face to the rest of the galaxy. its good that they allow in fat morbidly obese retarded people with learning disabilities. thats totally logical and makes sense and doesnt fly in the face of all existing information we have about the prestigious star fleet academy. i am glad this show can finally set the record state and let us know that starfleet isnt a racist sexist nazi meritocracy, but just an adult day care for fat retards! thank god! just as gene roddenberry intended.
++lastly, all the gay alien CW show teen relationship drama. 10/10

>>219799800
What keywords do i input

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>>219795286
NOTHING IS OVER!

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eventually there will be a new star trek series and that will be nutrek

what will we call the kurtzman era?

>>219796458
What ever happened to super aids?

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Now that the dust has settled: Who was in the wrong here?

She was truly a cute. Ah well, there will always be cute actresses.

>>219802195
>I don't know how you made it this far in your career behaving like this
She's at fault for conduct unbecoming of an officer. Imagine Picard or Sisko smiling and rolling their eyes like her while they're relieving someone of duty. The guy's obviously upset and instead of referring him to a counselor she makes a bunch of snarky comments.

>>219802195
the writers

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>>219802195
>This scene in a typical military story
"You're not fit for this position, and I'm having you transferred."
"Permission to speak freely, sir"
"Permission denied. You are dismissed"
And then the character stays silent and leaves because he respects the chain of command.
>this shit
A HR meeting where the characters are written like petulant 13 year olds.

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>>219796055
>the white guy in the back is into it LOL!!

>>219796018
The pic is BTS from Strange New Worlds. No Klingon involved

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>>219795684
Gene was far from bright eyed. He was a gooner gigachud who grew up watching shit like mutiny on the bounty and horatio hornblower and lacking the budget to set it on a sailing ship he made his ship show into a scifi show and it just happened to air at the precisely right time for it to become accepted. Gene was wholly a product of the goofball 1950s/60s, when sexism and white man's burden was not just expected but lauded in shows. Trek showed a future where all men and women of all races could work together - as long as the nonwhites acted like Christian Caucasians and the women knew their place and just worked at the switchboard answering calls.

In other words, Gene was based as fuck and nutrek is a giant fuck you to the pro male pro European pre-2001 Trek.

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>>219796055
not even Klingons can be masculine

>>219795308
that dude could probably kick your brown ass

>>219801274
The shit era

>>219801274
The Kurtzman era, like what it's called now.
I can't tell if he loves Trek and has a distorted idea of what Star Trek is and should be or if he's just a giant lefty faggot who thinks entertainment and strong characters should be second to pushing his politics and making snipes at current events like a passive-aggressive little bitch

>>219806774
It's a little of both, he's a theater kid who probably only had a basic understanding of Star Trek but knew it was considered progressive. He (incorrectly) assumed the entire fanbase was progressive and believed the "Star Trek was always woke" narrative like most retarded casuals.

>>219795308
>>219806539
enough with trying to turn every thread into a D&C thread joos

>>219795308
Maybe he had a cold.

>>219796055
>>219797323
I'm completely okay with a musical episode in Star Trek. I loved the one in Buffy, so I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't like it here.

... HOWEVER. This should have been taken MAXIMUM amount of "allotted sillyness" for the writing staff. Like, this should have been followed by 20 serious episodes. The musical episode would have well met the "lighthearted episode quota" for the rest of season 2 and all of season 3.

The Muppet episode was too much. I noped out of season three entirely when I saw that promo. Yes, I'm fully aware Angel had a Muppet episode, but that felt earned because it was in the last season of a dark tv show and it took place years after Buffy's musical episode.

>>219802195
>le stupid mansplaining white male
What the fuck is this shit even from? Compare this writing to Data chewing out Worf for questioning him. It's an abomination.

>>219795308
He thought it would help him blend in with the darker gents around him

>>219796055
It was a musical episode, everyone was singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ox5ZmAHaHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiHTjE95EJE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OndRhmd3Lx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBDVKilCGAQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjy6idrqHqo

The world would be better if everyone involved in star trek were dead including it's fans.

>>219807974
what in the godamn

>>219808129
It's pretty much where I stopped watching. I mean I didn't make it through the Lotus eaters episode, but seeing that one in trailers and online reviews made me nope out. Star Trek does some whacky shit sometimes (Q episodes) but this was just trying to capture the magic of Buffy or Scrubs musicals with none of the understanding of why these worked.

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>>219795308
A way to dehumanize the stage hands and extras.

>>219807778
It's from short treks which are 10-15 minute stories associated with snw. iirc after this conversation Archer unleashed tribbles onto the station which wound up destroying the place.

>>219801274
>what will we call the kurtzman era?
We don't talk about it. If new people ask about, we tell 'em to shut the fuck up and lurk moar until they learn not talk about it. Like Babylon 5 do with certain shitty spinoff pilot and Fallout fans do with certain xbox release.

>>219803197
kek

>>219796055
>So... that just happened.

>>219797019
>Society and the future and shit
you mean like... science fiction? dumbass

>>219796757
>making the klingons perform a klingon opera
see, now this wouldve been kino, because klingon opera is torture and you could picture it as such.

>>219796055
Shouldn't Klingons be singing in their own language and their own songs? Shouldn't it have been a weird Klingon opera that bordered on kabuki theatre?

>>219812168
The dyke helmsperson set the universal translator to extremely gay instead of the standard regular gay.

>>219812235
My copy of DS9 has that issue, I can adjust tracking but not gayness.

I'll never get over the fact that nutrek is infested with that so-called "millennial writing" that permeates all modern media
>like, like, like
>random swearing
>bitchy/snarky characters (usually female)
>references to current day things despite being set in the future

>>219812971
>Current events
Star Trek usually did moral dilemma episodes inspired by then-current events but did so through an allegory where they could create scenarios and lore that often tested the crew and left the viewer to decide which side was right, they did it with extreme subtlety

Activist Writers don't know how to do subtlety nor do they let you do a moral dilemma where both sides have done wrong for understandable or cultural reasons, with them it's always one side is right and the other is wrong/fascist/Nazis/Trump, allegory to Activist writers means taking a current headline and explicitly adding a Trek coat of paint to it.

It's something Law & Order shows like the mothership and SVU do too, ripped from the headlines episodes were and still are notoriously fucking terrible and were thinly-veiled revenge fantasies, especially in the case of later SVU seasons where all the cases were the writers room's revenge fantasies against things they personally dislike.

Activist Writers don't believe in storytelling, or characters or even entertaining the viewer/reader. They just love to get on their soapbox.

>INB4 lol ur a chud

If conservatives were doing the same thing I'd be bitching about it too, it goes both ways

>>219813216
>
I don't just mean current year events. >>219812971
Current year idioms, references to current year pop culture. It's extremely jarring.

>>219809687
unironically this. they looooove doing that shit to PAs and other crew

>>219812971
>random swearing
Streaming show writers are morons who think because they get a TV-MA rating that they can go carte blanche and do excessive swearing and violence because other TV-MA rated programs like The Sopranos, The Wire, and Dexter did it. However, the thing they ignore is that the shows they're trying to skinwalk as restrained themselves and let things build up. Tony only ever used profanity when he was angry or around his crew, and the brutality of his mob outfit usually was meant as a culmination of some simmering tension. We rarely ever saw that grisly of murder on-screen in Dexter, only the aftermath (I haven't watched Dexter in a while so I might be mistaken) plus the most profane characters in Dexter were Deb and Doakes, supporting characters. These modern writers have no such sense of restraint, it's just "We're free of FCC rules now, let's go wild!"

>>219795308
hollywood jews still enforce mandatory vaccinations and covid restrictions on set. yes seriously.

>>219807974
>>219797323
It's not the concept or that it's too goofy for a Star Trek episode. It's the fact that they're singing current year autotuned jungle beats instead of Klingon opera. But of course knowing that would require actually watching Star Trek and neither (you) or the writers have done so.

>>219796387
Isn't it the exact same scenario with that pale sith bitch from the last Star Wars show?

>>219809687
>>219813507
>>219795308
You all deserve long covid but it's the early onset dementia you'll suffer from repeated infections that truly warms my heart

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>>219813618
Lmao. Two more weeks, nigger.

>>219813618
>long covid
Imagine writing that unironically.

>>219813649
Weren't you guys the retards claiming just two more weeks till total vaxxie die off, bro? Lol. Any day now, bro!

>>219813689
>i fucking love star trek bro it's pure science competence porn bro
>why yes, I deny the existence of germ theory, how did you guess?
Lmao. NGMI

>>219796440
DS9 was shit. We made it a meme back in the day to pretend it was great. Then younger posters ran with it thinking it was a genuine opinion. isko's I'M ACTING. Bashir's retcon. Odo's YOU'RE TEARING ME APART, KIRA! Boring son of Siko. Jadzia/Ezri was... there and looked pretty. I guess the Klingon revenge episode was good. They turned my man Miles into a cuck with a banshee of a wife.
Quark was fine, but got overused. Nog was based.

>>219795286
How hard is it to make even a 10-episode season of Star Trek?
>You have a ship
>You have a crew that's an ensemble cast
>You have them explore Space, solve diplomatic issues, encounter new cultures, and maybe even encounter a hostile alien monster, strange space anomaly, or weird time loop
>Have a recurring villain or two but not a strong requirement
And you do that for 10 episodes
How hard is that?

>>219796055
I don't get the outrage over this episode. Okay, it wasn't good.
But it's just modern Naked Now.

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>>219813691
>Weren't you guys the retards claiming just two more weeks till total vaxxie die off, bro?

>>219815106
Writing is much harder than you think anon.
You should try it.
Things seem easy when you put things like that.
But every episode needs own core identity, character arcs, etc-

>>219813582
>'s the fact that they're singing current year autotuned jungle beats instead of Klingon opera.

....that's the joke man. That's the joke.

>>219815216
>Writing is much harder than you think
NTA, but that's only if you're really bad at storytelling, if you're a talented, decent, or even creative writer it's basically second nature.

Trek used to literally have scientific consultants to flesh out science fiction concepts for maximum effect. Star Trek is not this complex thing to put together if you know what you're doing and these writers don't

>>219815106
Streaming shows bought into this meme that all their seasons should be one, long, movie-like arc, Netflix & Amazon shows especially where in many instances, every episode leads into the next despite the fact this approach has been shown to be a colossal waste of time especially since some of these episodes are damn near two hours long.

Babylon 5 and Lost were both very heavy on serialized storytelling but they managed to relegate the myth arcs to the background only to be made the main plot when it came time for a big episode, even the Walking Dead during it's golden age was doing this, though in TWD's case their season-long arcs were character arcs not plot arcs

>>219815209
>bro, I fucking love space
>but I will deny aerosol physics and germ theory!
Lmao

>>219815503
Walking Dead did let it's main arc simmer until it came time for the finale when the payoff was to come, as did The Shield. It's because the writers even then kinda understood that you can only stretch a narrative arc so thin until it's spinning in it's gears and fucks up the pacing, with character arcs you can have any number of situations happen over the course of the episodes and keeps the pace tight

>>219815563
U mad bro?

>>219815563
You're missing the forest for the trees on this one.
The science in Star Trek is fake while the philosophy is palpable

>>219815664
Then how come The Boys which is both narrative and character driven is a slog to get through even when the average season is like, eight episodes a pop?

>>219795717

It wasn't cancelled, the show is ending with 5 seasons.

>>219807196
Star Trek WAS always woke. The problem is making it hyper-woke while also letting the writing go to shit.

>>219795717
>Isn't there supposed to be one more season, that got filmed before the cancellation?
That's Star Trek Jedi Academy

>>219815944
I think he's talking about Starfleet Academy

>>219815944
Starshit Fagcademy was canceled
SNW is "ending" after five seasons (only 45 episodes lmao)

>>219795308
The famous people don't spread diseases because they're a higher class of person. Plebs and peasants have to wear the cuck mask so they don't get infect the names with their poorness and filth.

>>219815859
Because the writers for the Boys are leftist sois who suffer from political brain rot and think gore is a substitute for coherent storytelling

>>219815859
Most TV shows have dime a dozen writers that have no ideas how to write something compelling. It’s extremely rare for a TV show to be well written from the beginning up until the end

>>219795286
nice v

>>219815503
At the end of the day it shows TV writers are ashamed of being TV writers, they wanna make gay arthouse coffee shop movies instead but nobody wants to fund those

I didn't hate SNW but it definitely ran out of steam. The Gorn shit was uninspired and boring.

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>>219815503
People forget The Sopranos overarching story largely plays out in the background like a looming spectre and the main driving force is the day to day shit Tony has to deal with and is more focused on what makes the characters tick

>>219796055
KINO

>>219815503
LOST was not episodic at all. Remember how insane the “previously on LOST” at the beginning would get?