>>219802856
2 is unequivocally more badass

true appreciators of cinema recognize T2 as the masterpiece it is
if you have gender dysphoria you like T1 because the terminator is pretty much Micheal Myers and muh heckin tech noir

>>219802856
2 is a kids movie
1 is an adult's movie
Both are good. 2 is better. Make sure you see the version where Arnie doesn't smile.

Before James Cameron became a furry he had the correct opinion of psychology. Exposing it was probably important. So that only the scum depicted in the movies were on it's side.

>>219803000
>A children's pet robot movie that doesnt kill
>more badass
Okay tranny

T2 pinball is my favorite pinball machine. I could play it for hours.

>>219802856
The one without quips, girlbosses, and a kid sidekick.

>>219803369
>2 is a kids movie
It's a family movie. It's purposefully written so that all members of the family can self insert. Kids will self-insert as John Connor the badass kid. Moms will self-insert as Sarah Connor the badass mom. Dads will self-insert as Terminator the badass robot father figure.

>>219803369
>2 is a kids movie
>1 is an adult's movie
Not at all but they are both different genre.
1 is sci fi horror, 2 is sci fi action.

>>219802856
>good practical effects
>straightforward story
>ending closes the loop
>preserves the cultural distinction of its time
T1 is the only actual terminator film.

>first film was basically meaningless because judgement day wasn't stopped
>cliche subplot about the young boy with a robot friend
>one liners every scene because gen x faggots just thought that was the coolest thing ever
>dude explosions
>Linda Hamilton is only in the film to reassure the retarded viewer that this is totally a Terminator film and not just a memberberry cash grab
T2 is just a generic 90s action flick riding Schwarzenegger's coattails.

>>219803505
This.

The fucking annoying kid makes it unwatchable.

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>>219802856
T2 is objectively better in everything except aesthetics and the OST, T1's soundtrack fucking CLEARS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dGX_MuNu_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU7tRKWeFXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRBhxizY_TE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpMg1upld0w

T1 is a gritty 80s sci fi flick. T2 is a polished up version, more like a marvel movie.

>>219803518
>>219805522
Correct. The modern term is called SLOP. Bart Simpson teaching his pet robot quips and how to be a fucking liberal

>>219804578
Sorry a kid who is thrown into a situation like this movie is a little annoying

>>219805576
T1 is just a generic 80s slasher with a robot.

>>219802856
2 is one of those movies that doesn't have a middle. Know what I'm saying?

T2 is gay
>noooo don't terminate people!
fuck off kid

>>219805779
based

T2 its not even close
nothing in T1 comes close to Arnold shooting the minigun, T100 juming out a window on a motorcycle onto a helicopter, and all the car chase scenes are 10/10

>>219805746
>T1 is just a generic 80s slasher
DONT MAKE ME BUST YOU UP, MAN

>>219802856
The first one is a horror movie and the second one is fun action. Same with Alien and Aliens.

The pecs get em wet.
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiBuDXaIdsQ

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>Preferring Terminator 2 over Terminator
I’ll terminate you fuckers.

>>219805868
Talk to the hand

I enjoy them all but Terminator > Terminator 2 and Alien > Aliens

>>219805868

Perturbator had a cool homage to Technoir.
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0kg80jAtI8

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>>219802856
Terminator 3

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T1 and it AINT EVEN CLOSE

>>219805947
(you)

>>219805947
YOU ONLY LIKE IT FOR THE TITS

>>219805868
Just let me have my comfy nostalgia goggles favorite.

>>219805996
Did Cameron replace a lot of the sound efffects for T1? I remember watching T1 a couple months back and the guns sounded different, the real ones and the future guns.

>>219802856
T2 is a great movie, one of the all time best. T1 is cinema.

T2 is honestly peak comfy for me.

T1 is a goofy ass tech demo
vs T2, the greatest action film of all time and is probably in a time capsule somewhere
nostalgia/aesthetictards really are the worst

T1 vs T2 is basically Gen X vs Millennial

I like the first film more. It has a late 80’s vibe and the terminator is actually trying to kill John Connor’s mom to prevent his existence. When movies get all convoluted (especially action films) it doesn’t feel as cohesive to me. I understand though why people like the second film more since it had better action sequences and a much bigger budget.

>>219802856
Arnold is sooo much better as a villain.

>>219805906
Objectively correct post.

T1 enjoyers 140 IQ
T2 enjoyers 90 IQ

I’d imagine nostalgia decides a lot of people’s favorite. Whichever you saw as a kid will surely have a special place in your heart.
But I didn’t see either one until well into adulthood. T1 blew me away, this gritty, desperate struggle for the future of the human race.
T2 is fun, has a lot of good ideas, but it still doesn’t hold a candle to the original.

>>219806140
there's definitely more than 1 audio track going around (one more modern), I know this from having watched the police station shootout an unreasonable amount of times and hearing the different versions

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>>219802856
For me is "I don't have to pick one at all"
If I feel like watching a sci fi tech-thriller horror masterpiece, I'll watch 1
If I feel like watching a sci fi action masterpiece, I'll watch 2
Here, it's settled. It was actually settled near 40 years ago, retard. And everyone who disagree with this is just stupid

Everybody that thinks T2 is better saw T2 first

>>219806468
>It has a late 80’s vibe
you mean early 80s vibes?
you can still see a bit of 70s in it

>>219803417
The other robot does kill, thoughbeit.

>>219807884
Judging by the arguments, I'd say you are spot on.
The argument for T1 , like 'the other movie has a teen eeew' are mongoloid too

>>219805868
Take a hike, Bozo.

>>219807775
Some anon streamed the theatrical print cut (I think it was that) maybe a month or so ago and I remember the police station scene was a lot louder with the effects and the moans/cries in the background from the injured officers.

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>>219802856
Both are masterpieces

But 2 is better in just about every way

>>219808197
T2 is good but it's largely fan service.

>>219802856
T1. I like T2, but it's an easy pick for me.

da oozi nein milimeetah

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>>219808247
Fan service would be just doing the first movie again

While T2 honours the first movie's formula, structure and aesthetic, but completely upends it in terms of character dynamics and themes

It's a far more narratively ambitious, thought-provoking and poignant movie, in addition to significantly raising the stakes and action. A perfect sequel

>>219802856
T2 is technically better, but also more annoying and tiresome. A lot more retarded shit happens.
I vastly prefer T1.

>>219808336
OK James

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Terminator 1 is perfect.

I watched T1 as a very young child and it became my favorite thing ever, my parents did not mean for me to see it so I had to go a few years without it again but it stuck with me in my mind so viscerally because I was like 6 years old when I saw it. Now it feels like that movie is part of my DNA, it was literally the first adult piece of media I ever saw and it was fucking Terminator.

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>>219802856
The original.
>>219803256
T2 roller coaster ride for retards. Beautifully shot retarded action movie. The Terminator has oppressive atmosphere T2 can't match.

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>>219808889
As far as movies go, you were raised well. My mom took me to Aliens at the theater when I was 9. I've always had an "adult" taste in films. Never got into kids movies.

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as someone that prefers T1, this is a harder one

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>>219803256
>something is actually cool
>unironically shit on it
spotted le zoom zoom
I am actually surprised you even know about movies made before 2020.

>>219802856
The T-800 in the first movie is better, just a physical monster without the need for CGI or practical effects to fake a threatening presence. Would have been cool if T3 had Vin Diesel as the evil Terminator to see 2 bulky terminators battle.

>>219809248
It's similar to the Halloween franchise. When you give the monster a personality it loses its scary factor.

>>219802856
Having just rewatched the latest 4K Super35 scan with Cinema Digital Sound? Terminator 2 is fucking perfect. I've seen it a zillion times but watching it again on a 4K projector with big-sounding audio was as exhilarating as it was back in the theater in '91.

They legit don't make movies like it anymore. Even Cameron can't with his boring, dogshit blue cat movies that he's gonna waste the rest of his life making.

>>219809343
Every movie is great compared to today's slop

It's both, 1 sets up 2. 2 wouldn't exist without 1. 1 is a decent attempt at sci-fi horror, 2 is an action thriller. Both very good.

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>>219805807
fuck you, ass whore

- the T1000 idea was always a bit goofy to me
- the main couple of T1 (kyle+sarah) is more relevant to the story than T800+John. kyle and sarah simply have to fuck to save the world. their relation is also more emotionally powerful
- stop motion is scary
- T1 feels more like a greek tragedy. "no fate but what we make" = hollywood bullshit
- a machine should not start caring for humans just because the viewer wants it really bad

>>219809343
all cameron's movies since aliens, including t2, the abyss, and everything since are simplistic children's book tier appeals to emotion but with cool effects at least. he should have stuck to doing vfx for roger corman.

T1 is very interesting, It explores time travel and fate. T2 is an action blockbuster movie.

The contrasts between the two films is just fantastic. T1 is a low budget 80s technoir horror movie but you can tell it was made with passion for the genre and really believed in the universe it was presenting. T2 upped the ante in so many ways and the increase in budget and production value and effects just lends itself to being a natural evolution for a great series. I can't pick between the two; they're both amazing in their own ways.

>>219809708
This.
A rare non retarded comment

I like them both, but yes T2 is a masterpiece. In fact i refuse to acknowledge any other Terminator exists after T2

>>219809769
>In fact i refuse to acknowledge any other Terminator exists after T2
Like any normal person

>>219802856
T1 got "i'll be back" and "fuck you asshole" while T2 got "Come with me if you want to live" and "Hasta la vista baby"

>>219809822
>"Come with me if you want to live"
That quote comes from T1

>>219809733
It is retarded comment with no fucking idea what typical film budgets were at the time. The Terminator wasn't a low budget movie back in the day.

>>219809168
THE TERMINATOR Vs. ROBOCOP

Do it faggots, which one wins

>>219810934
You focused on the irrelevant inaccuracy completely ignoring the post itself.
Congrats

>>219810969
Both are great, but it's Terminator for me because the setting/lore is more interesting and unique.

I saw T2 way before T1 and I was surprised how tense the first movie was when I eventually did see it. Also I had to get used to Arnie being the bad Terminator. Thanks to the tech noir and police station scenes I really struggle to find a favourite. I guess I just like them both. On a rewatch now I'd probably pick the first one.

>>219805906
Based post

Anyone who says 1 is just a contrarian. It's got great scenes but 2's pacing is perfect

>>219813171
If you want to talk strictly about pacing, I have to disagree. the part between the hospital rescue and the cyberdyne assault has low energy and a slow pace. Which is not to say it's a bad thing, but T1 is tense basically all the time and the low energy parts (scene under the bridge, the motel night...) are brief and distant from each other

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>>219813252
I don't feel like refuting

>>219813171

>Anyone who says 1 is just a contrarian.
No, it's perfectly reasonable to prefer 1. Depends what you want.

>It's got great scenes but 2's pacing is perfect
This is close to the opposite of the truth. 2 has the edge when it comes to set-pieces (the storm drain, Sarah's escape attempt, Sarah's WWIII nightmare, the mini-gun, the helicopter chase). But 1 maintains a feeling of claustrophobic tension brilliantly with limited means.

They're both paced pretty much perfectly.

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>>219813252
I never really bought the idea that the movie has tension the whole way through. Honestly, the first time I watched it, I did not care at all about Biehn’s character or his story. To me, it is just a bunch of really cool scenes ltied together by some mumbo jumbo scifi plot

>>219803369
This more or less

>>219810969
Robocop is overrated. Its a decent B scifi movie, nothing more and not even Verhoevens best movie.

Terminator is way better

>>219810969
Does robocop ever address how his exposed mouth is a major achilles heel

>>219813496
You being completely uninterested in what's no the screen isn't really a valuable statement about the movie, anon

>>219813577
He's supposed to be a cop, not a tank, otherwise he wouldn't even be humanoid. Also nothing is exposed. It's just some wetware placed on his metal skull

T1 is brilliant especially for an 80s kino but T2 is undoubtedly still better and remains possibly the greatest sci-fi movie of all time

>>219805576
I'll stick with the original criteria for definition of cringe and based, and i srill consider both the Simpsons and T2 based and kino af.

>>219813755
I mean the sci fi side still great but its actual greatness was the action, that's what really made it.

>>219802856
Both are really good, but I gotta go with the first one. More of a thriller fan in general.
>>219809168
This is tough but I gotta go with Robocop.

>>219805906
this

>>219804532
>first film was basically meaningless because judgement day wasn't stopped
Judgment Day isn’t stopped at the end of T1.

>>219802856

2 only works as well as it does because the original movie exist though.

>>219813755
>undoubtedly still better
based on what? the budget?
>and remains possibly the greatest sci-fi movie of all time
T2 is not and never was appreciated for its sc fi component, that it's 99% lifted from T1

>>219814274
this

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>>219802856
1st one is more of a thriller

2nd one the plot really unravels

>>219814274
are you lying bruh?

if the terminator could detect mind thoughts then you'd for sure be well ya know

>>219802856
I like the horror angle of 1 but Terminator being a good guy is way more fun

>>219802856
1

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>>219802856
T1 > All

>>219814285
its objectively a better more refined take on the entire plot of the terminator universe
jim took 7 years to make sure he perfected it and didn't just jump into a quick doomed sequel like 2 years after the original as is usually the case with such franchises
>T2 is not and never was appreciated for its sc fi component
so what then? being a shitty slapstick comedy? tearjerker melodrama?

>>219805746
The robot makes it not generic.

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>>219814904
>a shitty slapstick comedy
>implying it wasn’t

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there is nothing to settle, if you prefer 2 you are a retarded manchild. its a b-movie with a blockbuster budget. T1 is a blockbuster with a b-movie budget, and is still superior. mostly because most of it is stolen which is ironic, since T2 is essentially just a retread of T1, therefore useless. and T2 existing in the first place and all its sequels destory the perfect loop that is T1. you can just repeat the movie after its done and it loops perfectly back, a neverending story essentially. its so fucking good.

fuck T2. fuck james cameron.

>>219802856
the 1st one by far. the 2nd one is gay and that twink Edward furlong spoils it because he wasnt an trained actor and this was his 1st gig and it shows

>>219802856
2 was great when i was a kid.
Now? 1 > 3 > 2