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I am not those men. I am Salahudin. Sala-hu-din.
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This movie was such shit. Ahistorical mudslime apologism and anti christian propaganda. Frankly pure fanfiction, its astonishing how much character assassination occurs in this movie. Guy's wife never left his side. Balian went with the crusaders. He was born in the holy land and lived a long live there. He never saw France. Saladin enslaved the population of Jerusalem after Balian and the Bishop of Jerusalem spent everything they owned to free as much as possible.
Awesome battle scenes though.
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The crusaders were a bunch of dirty thieves who lied to the Byzantine emperor by sending 10x more men for the sole purpose of establishing Catholic rump states in Byzantine territory and weakening the orthodox church. Shit like this is what eventually led to the Byzantine empire falling to the Ottomans. Christians have always been incompetent morons. That's why the enlightenment and Renaissance happened in spite of it.
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Eva Green is in this film.
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I see your point anon and it's valid. It's just that Eva Green is in this film.
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>The crusaders were a bunch of dirty thieves who lied to the Byzantine emperor by sending 10x more men for the sole purpose of establishing Catholic rump states in Byzantine territory and weakening the orthodox church.
Meds.
>incompetent morons
That's the Byzantines. The West went on to conquer the globe.
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nigga, even christians in the middle ages looked up to Saladin and he became a role model for how a model king should look like. Richard I also praised him. Even the famously spiteful Dante considered him a virtuous non-christian in Limbo. the issues with this movie being ahistorical is indeed true but to believe the point of the movie "christians bad, muslims good" shit is ridiculous, but this is your brain on /pol/ i suppose.
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>Give me some water
how do you respond without sounding mad
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>defeat at Vienna.
After Suleiman the Ottoman Empire was going downhill and couldn't compete with European countries and their technology, of course colonization was always of out of question for the Ottomans. Vienna was just a symptom of the problem
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Saladin is cool but Baybars mogs him as a commander and had a bigger impact on global history
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I would tell her “Everyone who drinks this water will get thirsty again and again. Anyone who drinks the water Jesus Christ gives will never thirst—not ever"
I would tell Eva Green that specifically while giving her water to drink, because I'd want that for her.
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That's only because your neck fat would be blocking the sun.
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The supporting characters in this were just unreal levels of keeno, so much that I can almost get over my hatred for Bloom and his shitty acting
>Repeating digits are to come for what took place 100 bane threads ago.
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Were you there? No? Then shut the fuck up
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I shall tell your father what I've seen you become
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I wish Ridley still made good movies like this. I've rewatched it over 100 times now, it's just that good.
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>he's actually from /pol/
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>>219823314
is this you, corny ass nigga?
https://youtu.be/YCbfaassDxA?si=aOitOFR45iGe4ULp
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Even the crusaders had some respect for Saladin because he wasn't entirely unreasonable and behaved with decorum. He was not, by modern standards, a good man, and he was at war and did some shady shit. For example. Saladin tries to fleece Richard the Lionhearted in a prisoner exchange, basically trying to trade peasants for valuable soldiers while keeping all the noble hostages as prisoners. Richard massacred many of his prisoners to show Saladin he wasn't fucking around. Saladin responded by killing a bunch of his prisoners too. The crusaders came to respect Saladin because he was actually willing to treat with them on even footing and was even fairly magnanimous. Rather than act like a violent ape, he agreed to a white peace with the crusaders that benefitted both parties. Saladin is fondly remembered by Muslims for being a good King and "defeating" the third crusade (which was in truth, a draw, as both parties gave concessions and did not complete all of their military goals). Saladin's empire, the Ayyubids, almost immediately collapsed into infighting between his family. But he was good while he lasted.
Saladin being a fairly reasonable, but still conquest-driven (not just of crusader lands but of other muslims) king does not magically erase the many bloody jihads. History is complicated.
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>>219823314
Christcuck seething again that they’re not always the goodest of boys.
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>>219829522
Historical stockholm syndrome.
If its true that the jews were the 1st to live in that area. The muslim empire had no reason to be there. The crusades shouldnt have been needed to take it back from them in the first place. Ever since Islams inception, its been about ransacking other peoples countries and forcing their beliefs on them.
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Who says I raid?
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>>219823314
youre an idiot who thinks he knows what he is talking about. you dont.
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somewhat right
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wrong it was thriving and began going to shit once Manuel I accepted a western wife
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Holy shit. Christcuck is seething.
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Little to no make up anon. She's a 10 in more than just the looks department.
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For all the fat underachievers spamming this thread with "Hurr lel Christian seething cuck"
I fucking hate troll farms and ai bots post this shit all the time. 4chan has been wrecked by these assholes.
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What is with historical Ridley Scott moving turning their protagonists into absolute chads who embody the best American ideals despite the time period they live in while the villains are comically spiteful and insecure virgins who feel threatened by the protags aura that they get them defamed or killed for no reason?
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>>219823314
Saladin was pretty based and a good leader, even if he was the enemy. I would like to think that way, but I also rage at people who beat me at Age of Empires and call them fags in chat, so I don't know how I'd be if I lost real men in battle against some faggot, but I could understand at least the concept of honor. If I captured him in battle I'd definitely have him spared and brought back to be a teacher to royal children or something and treat him well. I don't know where I was going with this but some enemies are worth respect and some aren't.
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>>219832158
That's just standard practice anon. Since the dawn of time people have used historical backdrops to comment on [current year]. Ridley was using the Crusades to comment on the Iraq War, Homer was using the Illiad to comment on Iron Age Greece.
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But controversy immediately emerged even because of this agreement. While the vast majority of the Christian population of Jerusalem were able to pay the ransom and leave, not all could, and thousands of Christians were left behind to be claimed as slaves by the Muslim conquerors. The Christian women and girls were then, according to Imad ad-Din, subjected to mass rape by Saladin’s soldiers.
“Women and children together came to 8,000 and were quickly divided up among us, bringing a smile to Muslim faces at their lamentations. How many well-guarded women were profaned, how many queens were ruled, and nubile girls married and noble women given away, and miserly women forced to yield themselves, and women who had been kept hidden stripped of their modesty and serious women made ridiculous, and women kept in private now set in public, and free women occupied, and precious ones used for hard work, and pretty things put to the test, and virgins dishonoured and proud women deflowered, and lovely women’s red lips kissed, and dark women prostrated, and untamed ones tamed and happy ones made to weep. How many noblemen took them as concubines, how many ardent men blazed for one of them, and celibates were satisfied by them, and thirsty men sated by them and turbulent men able to give vent to their passion….”
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I am sardine man
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>>219823449
>Shit like this is what eventually led to the Byzantine empire falling to the Ottoman
Retarded propaganda revisionism slop. Byzantium was a degenerate failing shithole that was about to lose to the Turks anyways. Crusaders gave them 300 more years that they squandered.
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Funny thing is; West (France, Spain, Italy etc.) back in the day completely romanticed him because he embodied chivalry and well used soft power. The Islamists didnt care of him at all, they thought he was weak and wasted time negotiating with the Crusading States. To Egyptians he was Kurdi conqueror and to Syria he was nepotic sunni who Order of Hasasshins tried to get rid of twice.
He mostly came to fame later; one part bieng Dante's Inferno.
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The movie didn't even scrape the atrocities the Crusading States did, they painted Reunaud de Chatillon a mustache twiling bloodthirsty asshole.... because he was. This guy had supreme hate towards muslims; so far he went to the fucking Cyprus, raped and pillaged the monasteries there to fund his own war effort. Even Christians hated his cut. This guy wanted the True Cross back so bad he launched a campaign to go into Medea where Muhammad was buried to go and steal his corpse.
t. screenwriter