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This thread is for:
*Screenshots, pages, and discussion about general series, current or old, not covered by an existing thread, be it yuri, fanservice, subtext or goggles. Canon and non-canon both welcome.
*News reports about things relevant to our interest
*Original content that doesn't fit any specific thread topics
*ROMA - AMOR
*Pretty much anything that doesn't have or need its own thread.
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Matholde will win the oldhagbowl!
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Anyone knows if this OVA has subs yet?
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we need Milky Holmes, but yuri
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>>4536151
Exactly what it looks like
https://x.com/awakotodayo/status/1841047728798797989
https://cdn.donmai.us/original/c7/7d/c77d29d10c90a29568abad44c8aceafd. mp4
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>>4536159
Yes, it should have.
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Why no one talks about the Android anime?
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>>4536206
Not really, if we're talking about true mediocrity, Brave Witches does a much worse job, with characters and even plot. Don't be fooled, you probably only remember 3 or 4 characters at best. Luminous Witches at least takes a different route and one that isn't contradictory to other war stories (like Puppet Master) from another perspective.
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>>4536217
>>I didn't ask you.
I'm the Anon you replied to.
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important
https://x.com/aktnhino920/status/2030257262850449878
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So, Grace x Emily. Right, /u/?
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>>4536500
Ignore the retard above, trash like him will soon be gone, both the author and kirara call it yuri, but it's your typical non romance yuri series with some teasing or fanservice every chapter or so, any development it could possible have will only happen in the ending.
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>>4536518
Yes anon, otherwise I would have said it's not yuri, it's just not a romance in the sense there are romance tropes in the story, but the story portrays certain pairs of characters having interest in each other, there is also a streamer who plays the role of a fan of yuri in the series.
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>>4536519
Basically, it's a series with yuri as a present element, like many others, and nobody has a problem categorizing it as yuri, despite not being romance series as such.
It's funny that there's never that problem with het or yaoi; people just call those series romance or the pairings as purely canon, even if there isn't really any real romance.
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But there is, because when those series end dismissing the romantic aspect the fanbase gets furious, see the whole MHA debacle that got worst with the author last interview where he basically said the prologue had no romantic implications and was just admiration, this is a consequence of having no scrutiny over what constitute romance, though understandably so considering more heterosexual shonen romance is as complex as elementary school romances.
Yuri and BL (not yaoi, there is a big difference between the two, yaoi is understood to be inherently sexual even if the derivative work isn't explicitly so) have different weights in regards how they see same sex relationships because for better or for worse society does treats those differently and common sense varies between the two, you can find a thousand excuses for girls hand holding, but you will have a hard time excusing two men doing so.
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>> MHA
That's what I mean by people pretending there was canon with barely any romance. I could see some shipping, but nothing really relevant. The story was focused on fighting the final bosses, rather than pushing mediocre het couples to the forefront.
It only shows how little the "fans" really care about a series of this type and its property was a subplot that barely existed, for example the complaints with the still present epilogue of Digimon 02, it was never the bad writing, plot holes, abandoned plots and deus ex machinas, but that the couples of some did not become canon.
The less said about Yuna Goha's complete mental retardation in Yugioh Go Rush, the better (losing a character's point is one thing, this is outright mental problems).
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The problem is that's not really the case. Look at Tiger and Bunny or Samunenco; it's barely a pretty weak shipptease between the men and almost automatic declarations of canon pairings from the fans. Then apply that same logic to many other series that do the same thing; you get less confirmation or commitment than with a bad Times Kirara series.
In the end, yuri only gets the short end of the stick, not for doing things worse, but for pure hypocrisy and hype-fueled bullshit.
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>>4536623
I'm not exactly worried about nothing burger couples not getting more delusional shipping anon, though I suppose in a way this makes so the scene is smaller or at least less diverse and more focused on certain works. I am not sure I would agree about the BL examples, like I said it's much easier to just call two guys faggots if they are too effective with each other.
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A version of this where they start off genuinely hating eachother at the beginning would be Godly. Need more enemies to lovers yuri
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Is BRS worth watching in current year?
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It's funny when you remember that they have official wedding dresses.
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Alice girlfriend appear in the last Ikkoku Nikki btw
i was expecting she leave the closet for Makio but no
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Vacation just started, time to work on my backlog
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>>4537055
>Natsuiro Kiseki
That was one of the most memorably silly first episodes of all time.
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>>authors against piracy and tl?
Hasn't it always been like this? Although I know it might be more the publishers' fault, but when you have stupid people uploading material that wasn't supposed to be public yet or complaining stupidly about something stupid, I wouldn't be surprised if they started anti-piracy measures and translations, directly despising or restricting the Western barbarians.
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>>4537359
>go on twitter
>there's people posting unofficial scanlations in the replies of the actual author
>sometimes people even reply to people begging for an english release with a link to the unofficial scans
some people are just criminally retarded and ruin it for everyone
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New Kimishinu for real:
https://ichicomi.com/episode/12207421983480087936
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YURIHUB PLEASE COMEBACK!
I NEED THE NEXT CHAPTER TRANSLATED.
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Why did everyone make fun of Rae for being gay but nobody cared about Manaria hitting on every girl in school?
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Good news, everyone!
https://tonarinoyj.jp/episode/14079602755451783846
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>>4537910
As far as I know, Vol. 13 is the latest one.
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/141463760
The latest translated is Vol. 9
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01300010.html
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It happened.
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Something happened
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>>4537928
I think there was one, but even so, having your own thread doesn't mean anything, especially when many threads are just image dumps and very few are real discussions.
Is it really worth following the series or talking about it when many only expect the "results" as if everything that happened before and after had no value whatsoever?
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Akebi has lesbians but it's hard to recommend for the yuri because specially early on so many chapters aren't really about character relationships or anything at all and they're just voyeuristic depictions fetishized 12 year old girls. It turned into a completely different manga halfway through, I think when they started talking about the play after the visit to Erika's house.
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Some Volicia news:
- #1-2 with remastered VA on various streaming services from 27.03, but only in Japan, no plans for international seemingly
- #1 will be fully remade for the compilation movie, new script/storyboard and all, cut down from 32 to 24 min. #2 will be fully re-composited. Jeez, that workload
#3 (final and longest ep.) and compilation movie are still planned for 2027. Now that the series is on streaming I guess there won't be a public YT release for those...
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>voyeuristic depictions fetishized 12 year old girls
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Akebi and Erika are already visible flirting from the early chapters, pics like this come from the early chapters, half of the manga is literally a romance arc at this point.
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It's because there is no gender imbalance or expectations from the readers, Kaguya (the het romcom) tried to do a POV switch but struggled as the series went on because a certain part of the readership was getting upset every time Kaguya wasn't basically a slave to her feelings.
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I consider myself an anime-only viewer out of sheer laziness, but even with just that, the yuri was already present in the adaptation, and it's not like the premise of Akebi wearing a sailor uniform compared to the rest of the students can sustain a whole series.
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>>readership was getting upset every time Kaguya wasn't basically a slave to her feelings.
I think the problem here isn't with the series itself, but with the fans being foolish (like with Oregairu, Index, and even Konosuba). It simply demonstrates the advantage and superiority of yuri in general, since both characters are important in the relationship, and it's not just one being the avatar without personality or charisma and the other the object of desire with even less charisma (in harems, the number of characters without charisma only increases).
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I thought enemies always turned into lovers. Did fanfiction lie to me?
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Ep. 3 is confirmed to be the longest, so #1v2 (24) + #2 (40) + #3 (40+) is approaching the 2-hour mark, unless some cuts are made to #2. I think we can be sure it's going to be within 90-120 minutes, the latter being the hard limit for the planned cinemas.
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And the celebration was apparently a bucketload of existential horror, possibly cosmic horror and heavy drama. It's like those fanfics that make a lighthearted series extremely dark for no particular reason.
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Akebi-chan didn't start as yuri, it didn't start as anything. It barely had a story. The mangaka even said he didn't even consider Erika a special character at first. It pivoted towards yuri later. The yuri PV feels disingenuous because Erika's screentime grew with time, at the start it was more of an Akebi+classmate of the week manga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo_Ofj6wwbQ
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>>it's like a newspaper cartoon trying to tell an edgy plot.
I can swear that's happened, and besides, don't you know the Garfield lore? It's not an exaggeration; that series really delves into disturbing and profound things.
The general problem is that 4koma is basically a comedy format structured around telling the joke in those 4 panels, but that page shows that you can do wonders with the format, but it loses sight of the point a bit. It would be great if the series were allowed to switch to a more normal format.
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Hoshitele sometimes breaks the format to great effect.
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YoruKura was so close to being a top 10 yuri anime, im still mad at how hard they fumbled the 2nd half. So much retreading
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The writer genuinely called all the forced drama and nothingburger resolution from episode 8 on the "real Yorukura" so there was probably never hope of it sticking the landing and it's more likely the previous part was a fluke.
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It's because studios currently are having a hard time dealing with the scale, let's make something clear we all know very well, they want shipping because they know how much money LL made out of it, but just like LL they don't want the characters to be actually associated with gay or for people to lose interest if they got together, however like I said above, everything is much gayer nowadays, yuri anime is undeniable gay nowadays and gay marriage Gundam had just happened, they know if they want to force shipping they had to give more than just your usual series. Kaguya is another example of this, there is no intimacy in the work itself, but it's much gayer and less ambiguous (not counting the novels) than anything else without intimacy.
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That's nonsense on many levels. Kaguya was undeniably gay; you have to resort to hetfag logic to deny that, and it's the same logic that has been used for years to deny yuri in .hack and anything even remotely yuri, but at the same time consider the weakest of the ships to be "canon het."
Using Love Live is funny in many ways. From the perspective of someone unfamiliar with the series, they'll say, "multi-shipping" and "no devotion to anything," which is a complete lie. There's a reason why OG, Sunshine, and Superstar initially promised a good yuri option, only to then throw it all away to satisfy the lust of the most simplistic and aggressive yuri fans. Then those same aggressive people criticize Niji for being a more consistent yuri series, even in Nijiyon. You can't use the excuse that this isn't yuri; otherwise, we wouldn't have Japanese people calling the West homophobic because of KLab's censorship.
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I don't know why they keep talking nonsense, YoruKura is far from being a disaster and much less not being yuri, I also don't see the logic of separating the series into parts as if there had been a real change during its duration.
Don't pretend there weren't stupid hetfags (redundant) declaring that the series was het because in the OP there was a man looking at the Medusa mural.
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Who are some yuri coded hetshit characters that should've been lesbians?
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I'm catching up on the previous season and watching Watatabe. How much of the manga does the anime cover? And does Shiori ever get into serious fights? Most of her kills were near effortless and the one actual fight she was in was against Miko
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And I can't even tell if that was a result of having too many writers in the kitchen or if it was just a clumsy attempt at virtue signaling. I don't mind it when a show tries to do something different; I'll give WEP credit for having the pregnant trans girl character, since you don't see stuff like that in Japanese media very often, much less anime, and it did make for a compelling reason for why she killed herself. Like, if Kiui roleplayed as a guy online because she felt trapped in a very feminine body, that would at least put some meat on the bones of her character arc, but it just kind of went nowhere. And I don't even know what there were trying to do with the biker chick. She literally had her tits played with by two underage girls but was kind of just shoved in a closet and only made an appearance again at the end. The SUPER BEST FRIENDS ending was also a bitch, because the whole running down the escalator thing could've been super romantic but it turned out to be another dropped ball. Usually, if I enjoy a show, I write a small fanfic when it ends as a love letter to the series, but I couldn't be assed to write anything for Yorukura. It just left too much of a bad taste in my mouth.
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>if Kiui roleplayed as a guy online because she felt trapped in a very feminine body, that would at least put some meat on the bones of her character arc, but it just kind of went nowhere
Or they could've gone the safer route but still preserving some social commentary by having Kiui say she really liked Super Sentai and getting told it's weird for a girl to like stuff aimed at little boys.
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>does Shiori ever get into serious fights? Most of her kills were near effortless and the one actual fight she was in was against Miko
It's not an action series, even right now the drama hinges on psychological games rather than powerscaling bullshit.
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I keep seeing this character posted all over 4chan recently and only just now did I realize I've actually seen that OVA (I can't even remember why, might have been a post here). The OVA seems to still be obscure and not particularly highly rated, why did she blow up?
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Hello /u/, roster suggestions are over, and the poll is open now. Decide the future of the team. As usual, you will find all the links in the pastebin down below, so go wild.
https://pastebin.com/FCv5P4vh
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This scene, right
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>finish watching Watatabe
Nothing got fixed.
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>watching a yuri adaptation expection any sort of resolution
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>>4538673
And most of the productions were a PowerPoint presentation; also, the long series looked good at the beginning and end, but the rest of the time they looked terrible.
As an additional note, I'm watching an anime from 2001 and one from 2004; I had forgotten how bad anime looked back then.
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>>Production values
>> just outright posting non yuri anime
>Why are you even here?
Because those people never cared about yuri, they just wanted to feel superior to others using a factor that doesn't even concern them. It's funny how every time (thanks to the YouTube algorithm) I see more and more videos trashing Kimetsu no Yaiba. Those are their words, not mine, but I agree with what they say. That anime literally only has production values and nothing else (like a Kyoani anime and those movies that people forget after a year).
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>>4538634
If you voted already, one option was omitted from the poll by mistake; you can edit your response for the Haikitei rep.
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>>4538709
The main problem is that it's an adaptation of an ongoing series, so this kind of change can't be expected and it will probably happen towards the end when Hinako has her harem of yokai girls.
On a more realistic and depressing note, suicidal thoughts aren't going to disappear so easily (believe me), so we'll have to wait and see what happens at the end of the series.
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I'm not saying Hinako should be completely recovered, but I more or less hoped she'd at least start taking a step or two on the way to that. However, she's in the very same spot she was in at the start of the series.
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>>4538709
people (myself included) were saying there wasn't really a good place for the anime to end since it was announced. They even had to stall for time a lot so it didn't end in the middle of the next arc and introduce new characters. It fulfilled its purpose though of getting people into manga
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> It fulfilled its purpose though of getting people into manga
only that?
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Living the dream
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Official art, btw.
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Of course they're good friends, we all know who will win Yuu over in the end.
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I miss this family
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Ruri dragon should've been yuri
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This show gives "touched her heart" a different meaning.
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>it wasn't yuri :(
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why do manga fall off whenever the chase ends? whenever a couple ends up together the story is always lackluster. mangakas sure do have a tough time with this. i think stories should conclude after they end up together
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It shouldn't be though. What they are doing for work should be interesting too. Having kids should be interesting. You might have to have a time skip, and fill back with flashbacks. But if you have interesting characters whatever they do should be interesting.
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work and kids are fine for an epilogue, but are too uninteresting on its own to sustain a story in a mundane setting. if tragedy was introduced or if the characters job was being a hero or some shit it'd be different (romance is only part of the story), but in a romance only story where the characters problems are typically sorted out during "the chase" who wants to read 50+ chapters of a picturesque life?
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one of the top replies is how they could base a few chapters on protecting the girls when they're being hit on by guys.
thats a trope you dedicate a few panels to during the token beach/pool trip, not an entire arc in a yuri romcom. Not sure what it adds to the story that a female love rival wouldn't
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Fuck off back to Twatter where you belong, asshole
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Look at this cute little bonk afterwards and your day will brighten even further.
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No?. How is an ecchi franchise that's been dead for years outside of a gacha that kept going like a zombie before finally dying relevant here? I think it's a typo and he's talking about Kaguya, as in Cosmic Princess Kaguya/Chou Kaguya-Hime, the recent yuri netflix movie that exploded in popularity beyond anyone expectations
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https://twitter.com/ogino_jun/status/2030768779236614259
https://twitter.com/ogino_jun/status/2031559032188830011
https://twitter.com/ogino_jun/status/2031992764356051284
Soon.
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For some reason this series feels it came from the 00's, like I can see it published along stuff like Bleach and whatnot
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Making a series chapter by chapter over years that has multiple arcs with different genres and themes is extremely difficult. Not every author is setting out to write an elaborate story. Spending the months or years necessary to plan out a complex story like that requires a lot of time which just isn't sensible when a majority of series don't even get renewed. It is the unfortunate financial reality of manga because authors need money to survive and it takes a month just to draw a single chapter. Books are a lot more forgiving for an author's vision to experience that kind of scope creep. Give money to yuri independent authors and you'll be able to get longer and more complex stories if you can fund them for a decade.
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Anon, if you had a Milkit yourself you would know you only want her wet in bed.
Though really this is a consequence of them not following the novels where Flum is aware anything Eterna is struggling to fight she would have zero chance of winning against.
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That happens more often with manhwa/manhua, but a lot of them are clearly making it up as they go along, so they run out of steam and the main couple usually ends up being reduced to cameos while the side couples work on getting together for the next 50 chapters. Usually i (and others) end up jumping ship when its clear the author is just trying to add shit last minute so they can have another story arc without properly setting it up earlier in the story like in "my intern bullied me again". Its really hard to keep it engaging without having other stuff to fall back on.
You have stuff like "tenten" and "urasekai picnic" where getting together is only part of the story; you have series like "sweet heat" and "soulmate" that start off with them together, but also have other goals they need to work towards; and you have other series like the new gal x gal manga and "the two of them are pretty much like this" that start off together and don't really have any goal and are more of an Iyashikei.
The transition though between a romantic drama where the primary goal is a relationship, to a more passive SOL is a very hard thing to do right while staying engaging, but it's not impossible. Most would just rather start a new story at that point, and leave the future to the readers imagination. Its like the old writing adivce of writing the most interesting part of a characters life.
i personally prefer it when it's more of a final volume sendoff to tieup all the loose ends like in "still sick". It's nice seeing them together, but i really wouldn't want the series to stagnate itself by dedicating multiple volumes their new life and am satisfied just seeing some glimpses through the window from the authors xitter or fanbox or whatever.
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Anyone else noticed that it is always the most het-coded series' that get the most rabid defenders/shills on this board?
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To be fair, many people in times of crisis are unable to act coherently and lose their temper easily.
Although it's somewhat like the syndrome of horror or mystery movies, it's easy for the viewer to draw conclusions, but the clues and facts that the viewer can see are not the same as those seen by the characters.
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>>4539548
"Het series" is a description for a work unambiguous heterosexual, say for example Hibikek, while "Het-coded series" is a purposely vague terminology that is often used to dismiss works with tomboy characters or harem works like Watanare.
So answering that anon question, maybe the reason people are so defensive in regards to "het coded" works is because we have mentally ill people constantly pushing made up narratives in regards to works they dislike because women are not portrayed in a way they consider sexually desirable.
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>>4539553
>>vague terminology that is often used to dismiss works with tomboy characters or harem works like Watanare.
That is truly and unequivocally stupid, that doesn't make something even remotely Het, Het is Het, a girl loved by other girls doesn't make something Het.
The only series (not yuri) where I've seen people get defensive are things like Gridman, Franxx, Dungeon Meshi, and other series related or not to Studio Trigger. In the end, it's all just excuses and forced justifications instead of, you know, enjoying things for what they are instead of glorifying them for what they're not.
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I've seen people claim MahoAko is "het-coded" because fanservice and because Utena being a Voyeur in the LocoLeber scene with no love for either of them is "the same as if a male like that one dude from YagaKimi (that was specifically the example used) was watching them and thus is basically an ffm threesome" "Het-coded" is a retarded term for "show I don't like"
And for Watanare the excuse goes "all harems are shit writing" "including yuri harems. Yuri should be better than this and because shit writing it means yuri harem is the same as het harem"
>Het is Het,
Exactly. Thus why the term "het-coded" is bullshit. Why not say het? What is the difference? What makes something "het-coded" but not ouright het?
It's a bullshit term
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>>4539553
Nah "Sexually desirable" is "het-coded"
It's activists and writing critics who have realized "this is shit writing" "this doesn't fit my politics agenda" isn't grounds to dismiss something and people will keep defending these shows they hate. So they use "this is het-coded" "no diffrerent from het" to dismiss yuri and claim people who like/defend such shows don't belong here
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Just finished Eternal Filena on the super famicom, and the OVA's.
No idea how accurate they are the LN, and the story was pretty different between the two, but the game was great, even with the high encounter rate.
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You might as well complain about thr Rikka/Akane art because the former ends up with Yuta.
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>>4540373
I just wanted to post cute Junko/Ai art. Why are you so mad that Lily's in one picture who isn't even shipped with anyone
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>>4540405
The real problem is that we're talking about a T-rated character, so the "unmentionables" don't give a damn. In addition, the image is harmless in that sense if what you want to mention is yuri. If the image contains a marriage between girls just to have men in the background, does that make it not yuri? I understand the rules and the reasons, but there are times when something is unequivocally yuri, even if there are men in the image.
>>4540390
>>If Yuta is in those drawings, yes
Ironically, that's what they were doing in Gridman's thread (even with more men) and nobody could say anything to them.
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>just found out yugioh has canon yuri
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>>4540519
>likes cute girls and mecha
Frankly, that's not a real guarantee, but the yuri in Strike Witches wasn't an accident and on the contrary, it was quite direct (S2 more than S1), but that doesn't change the fact that the people in charge don't have a clue how to handle this type of series; there have already been several that, even with an all-girl cast, have zero yuri.
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>the yuri in Strike Witches wasn't an accident
Might've been Fumikane's influence before he went full retard.
Coincidentally, the yuri increased as the fanservice decreased. Series and seasons after S2 had next to no fanservice.
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New masterpiece in the making
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Wait till you hear about the mahou shoujo Marmite archetype
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>>4540595
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Why are so many people saying selfcest isn't yuri? Being attracted to female body is gay as fuck even if it's your own.
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>>Series and seasons after S2 had next to no fanservice.
I found that funny; the series in question didn't really change its tone and remained the same, but you just have less fanservice thrown in your face, even the episode with the big boobs, at the end of the day it was an excuse to have Yoshika and Lynette having an intimate and romantic moment between the two of them.
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The difference in appreciation is noticeable; when people in Japan talk about this anime, it's to remember how good it looked and how much they liked it. In contrast, Heatcharge Precure is always hated whenever they have the chance (meanwhile, the West considers that crap a good season).
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>>4540735
Will Kirara-chan stop and help Cune-chan up and make a pinky-promise with her that they'll always look out for one another?
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>they also post onimai
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Hello /u/, we got the poll results up
Sacked:
Sacked
-How Three Magical Girls Have Sex In A Dollhouse
-OI TAMA
-Leaf'd
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In
-Lesbodynamics Requiem
-I'll now proceed to pleasure myself with
this fish
-8000-year grooming plan
-The itou hachi files
-Is not illegal because she is blind
Medal changes.
Cup now will switch to 5 medals so feito will go back to being the fifth medal
Best ongoing manga rep.
Majo to Kyurasu
Now, why 5 instead of 4? Shiori was chosen to be the new model for Big Aquarium for that reason, and since Big Aquarium is bigger in the "yes" options, we will give instead that last slot to the other player with the same amount of "yes" votes in this case, Omagoto.
The cup starts on April 24th.
Link for the results here.
https://pastebin.com/jBZKVFnL
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>>4540776
>the Dollhouse and OI TAMA sacked
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Anyone read Ura Baitou? It's a horror series nearing the end of its run (200+ chapters). The two female MCs take on shady jobs together where creepy supernatural shit occurs. No overt /u/ but a lot of shiptease between them, one MC frequently comments on the other's boob size, and at one point they're mistaken for a married lesbian couple. In the most recent chapters they're described as the most important people to each other. Also complete lack of any male love interests
Warning: when I say horror, I mean horror. This manga is genuinely unsettling. Makes junji ito look like teletubbies. Romance is most certainly not the focus
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Unfortunately I always pass on buying them when they show up in yuri buyfag lists so I don't remember the titles for most of them. The only one that I remember is きさらぎ異聞 which I only was able to look up because kisaragi was one of the inspirations for a story from otherside picnic.
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>>4540942
No one is posting in these threads now and its depressing. This thread is over 2 weeks old. I want to see new and exciting yuri discussions about things I'd never encounter just from reading yuri manga idly on a weekend. I even used to get annoyed at the dumb opinions on /u/ ocasionally but no one is even here to stir up those unused feelings now. All that's left is me and my yuri manga in quiet solitude.
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There's just nothing going on in the yuri world recently, no need to be so dramatic. I'm sure you'll get plenty of dumb opinions to read once that theater school original anime starts airing.
The last big thing was CPK and that had its own thread from the start.
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This is giving me good vibes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAneuhZLHzU
I know the studio isn't exactly trustworthy, but there is an even number of girls, and they seem to be pushing the ships pretty hard on the website and twitter:
https://growupshow.com/gallery/
https://xcancel.com/growupshow/status/2035645786713891295#m
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>>4540836
Doushi Shoujo yo, Teki wo Ute
https://mangadex.org/title/79703a71-561b-4bf8-9fc3-22713aa06e5e/doushi -shoujo-yo-teki-wo-ute
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>I know the studio isn't exactly trustworthy
Hopefully they got tired of all the het:
>A-1 Pictures established Psyde Kick Studio as a new label on July 1. The label was founded for the purpose of pursuing greater freedom of creative expression using the knowhow A-1 Pictures has cultivated until now.
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>>I know the studio isn't exactly trustworthy
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>>Hopefully they got tired of all the het:
Just because Kyoani and Trigger constantly mess things up doesn't mean other animation studios operate the same way. Usually, each project within the same studio is made up of different people who work differently, which is why the same animation studio can produce such different results across series.
A-1 Pictures has made Sora no Woto, Vividred and even the only adaptations of Im@s that really matter, so the fact that the studio lives on and tries to obscenely milk SAO or even Fate doesn't detract from the merit of their other non-Het works.
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>Im@s
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I find it somewhat amusing that this parallel was created solely due to similarities in character designs, although it doesn't feel out of place.
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I was really expecting that Yuki's silver eye was plucked out of her master's head and given to her after the game to explain her heterochromia, but I guess she's just blind in that eye. Weird that her master can fake her own death despite being carved up like a thanksgiving turkey.
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That could be the clue, and I think they could be seen from the sidelines, although an indirect legacy was left with a mentally unstable person, whose first love didn't work out so well.
Although I don't understand why the obvious pair from the maid game appeared in Yuki's hallucination, they survived in the end as far as I understood.
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>>4541195
In anime adaptations, the main characters are the girls, the idols; the producer is no different in relevance than the secretary and the president in each series. It's the equivalent of calling a fairy or pet in a magical girl series the "protagonist" when they are characters that can be omitted or even completely absent and everything will be the same or better. Wake Atte Mini! literally doesn't have a producer, and even that garbage Gekiyou omits him in its last episodes.
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It's funny when this mental retardation also ended up affecting series unrelated to Im@s, such as Ongaku shoujo TV, 22/7, Selection Project, WUG, Idol Memories and other projects that literally had no het, but were demonized anyway, just because there was a male support character who wore a suit.
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The problem is that they aren't; you have to be a fervent and established hetfag to call all those series het (or have mental problems). There may be disasters like Idol Memories, but the mere fact of having men existing doesn't make it het.
You also have people who are just as or even more stupid, calling a series with no male characters and a prominent or minimal amount of yuri, made for waifufags.
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>Check /u/
>Unironic idolm@ster discussion
this was desperate even back in 2010 when we couldn't afford to be picky about yuri.
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Artist name is kkbard. She's currently working on an assassinxwomanizer comic
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The funny thing is that I wasn't on /u/ for the first anime, but I was there when CG came out and the anime was discussed in the general thread without any problem (with its appropriate complaint against the frankly stupid Mio Honda arc) so I don't know where some newfag comes from pretending to know shit and besides, those series I mentioned were also discussed in the general thread without any problem either.
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Been thinking a lot about Medea. First introduced to her in Fate/Zero. Didn't think much of love-obsessed chara #131341 but now I know the full story.
Oh. Oh girl. I just want her to be happy. With someone, anyone who could treat her better. Like the Princess she is. Rin? Sakura?
I am also thinking of a 101 ways to Kill Jason.
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A stupid love story mixed with an alien conspiracy, which in the anime had one of the most offensive endings (laugh at Yugioh Ark-V) breaking up with someone just because your illness was cured, only for that someone to come back like a dog to the childhood friend who spent 12 episodes rejecting, pressuring until she accepted and I have to pretend that's a happy ending.
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Kid, it was 2015, not 2005. There was already plenty of yuri by that time. Even then, people didn't fully accept or take everything that came out. The fact that in 2018, triggerfags came along and pretended that het series were yuri just because those people are literally a cult, is a different story.
CG had yuri and it was even important to the plot and characters, no matter how much you want to twist reality about it, the fact that there wasn't much conversation here on /u/ when the adaptations of U-Loli, Million Live or Shinny Colors came out, is not because the series had Het (because ironically, they didn't) but because of how mediocre and completely lacking in yuri they were.
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No, the only real difference is that now yuri is further destroying the ego and self-esteem of a handful of hetfags, waifugas, and profags who have always hated that female characters exist and don't depend on men, because the content itself hasn't had any real changes beyond production values.
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You can think it's not yuri if you don't want to, even though the official classification will tell you otherwise. The problem is that the series uses excuses like Blue Drop (manga) to justify its own existence, when in the end it's nothing more than a terrible and corny love story with a horrible ending, although less silly than Yamibou.
You have to understand, that's not GB, which is the genre that isn't really yuri, since it's nothing more than a man turning into a woman for the sole purpose of fanservice and nothing else.
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>>And since we actually have yuri now
Kid, we've had yuri openly since 2004, and it was really niche before that. Stop pretending you're an expert on a time period you weren't even born into. Yuri invading series that are fundamentally het is the best thing yuri can do; it can objectively show how superior yuri is. That's why you have rabid hetfags pretending the opposite and forcing a non-existent narrative. The KanColle or Azur Lane adaptations were hated by the fandom not because they were bad (that's debatable), but because they brought yuri into their comfort zone.
It's the same stupid people who pretend that Acro Trip is the salvation of the magical girl genre and superior to MahoAko. If you think that the first two Im@s series (only those) don't have yuri, then you're on the same level as those people and you're nothing more than a disgusting closet hetfag.
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I've watched Kashimashi and it's mostly about a feminine boy becoming a girl and being more comfortable as a woman and also we have the dumb androphobia excuse to justify why the black haired girl was attracted to the female body of the MC, also we had the dumb thing with his male friend that was atracted to that body too. Off-topic comments aside it was obvoiously a GB story and not yuri.
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You see, there's nothing but nonsense about that series and that's the real problem, whether you consider Yui or not, frankly I would never recommend it not even out of curiosity about the voice actresses who make up the main trio, it's a really silly experience.
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>CG had yuri
Where? In the couple of frames where Rin wasn't throwing herself at the male MC?
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>we've had yuri openly since 2024
Why, then, are you trying to pretend a hetshit series was, or had, yuri?
>If you think that the first two Im@s series (only those) don't have yuri
No, the franchise as a while doesn't have yuri.
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>>In the couple of frames where Rin wasn't throwing herself at the male MC?
Where? You mean the scene where she rejects that option in the OVA.
>Why, then, are you trying to pretend a hetshit series was, or had, yuri?
Stop twisting the narrative, you're being really stupid and no, yuri didn't start in 2024, you have to be really stupid to think that way.
>>No, the franchise as a while doesn't have yuri.
Do you have any real arguments or just "trust me"? Because even the game has certain clues, which aren't worth much since the original is basically a galge. But that doesn't apply to adaptations.
But even better, leaving Im@s aside, how come those other idol series I mentioned that you've been ignoring are het? Most of them don't have a "base game" to say they're het, so what's your argument for saying that 22/7 or WUG are het?
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>in the OVA.
Right, a halfhearted "I say no, but I mean yes" statement made outside the series proper.
>Stop twisting the narrative
So what even is your argument? That Idolmaster isn't het? You'd be wrong, of course.
>yuri didn't start in 2024
Nobody said otherwise, what are you even talking about? Get your shit in gear, boy.
>Do you have any real arguments
Yes: this hetshit series of a hetshit franchise is hetshit, and has no yuri to speak of.
>other idol series
>22/7, WUG
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>You can think it's not yuri if you don't want to
Funny because every major yuri account like yurinavi for example has disclaimers that TS is not yuri. We have yuri authors specifically saying TS is not yuri. We have yuri publishing lines and they don't publish TS. Remember that Yuri Navi election we had with over 500 titles?
All I am seeing here is you trying to get your way around by disrespecting and spiting in Kashimashi's author face by saying the premise of his story is not important.
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>>it's just so bad that people pretend it's het because it's a very bad anime?
Basically, that's it. When the anime came out, "het" wasn't one of the complaints because there wasn't any het to begin with (unless you want to count an attempted sexual assault as het proper), but the anime wasn't yuri either, or even shipptease. The closest thing to something minimally yuri was in Season 2 with the new group, but nothing worthwhile. I think the main group died after that.
>>4541444
Literally OG and CG, we're not just talking about scenes, but moments and even entire episodes, from a real double tsundere to emotional dependence of one girl on the other, as I said everything relevant to the plot and the characters, there's even a loli onee and everything, of course, that's something you'd know by watching the thing in the first place, the only Idol in the adaptations (that matter) who shows lust for the producer, is Miki and absolutely no other (maybe Touma, but that's more Tsundere and he's a boy)
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>>4541461
No, the problem with Kashimashi is that it's a bad series, let's not kid ourselves. It relies on a forced plot twist, as I said, which makes it worse. That's why you have the super feminine guy, the girl's illness, and the alien conspiracy. If they just wanted to make a yuri story, they could have done without all those silly elements. Too many twists and turns for something that isn't even satisfying in the end, and with mediocre production values even for the time.
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>>4541437
>"I say no, but I mean yes"
You have absolutely no idea what happened in that OVA, do you?
>>So what even is your argument? That Idolmaster isn't het? You'd be wrong, of course.
Where is this "het" you keep talking about? Because just 2 girls "in love" in 2 different series, compared to like 100 other girls, doesn't make it a "het" series.
>Nobody said otherwise, what are you even talking about? Get your shit in gear, boy.
>>4541473
>>this hetshit series of a hetshit franchise is hetshit,
Personal opinions are not arguments.
>>Were really bad, but not het.
That literally contradicts the argument that explicitly called those series "het," so what are we talking about then?
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>>4541487
Actually, the bad writing is part of the problem that it's not considered yuri; it wasn't necessary to have a feminine boy turned into a woman as an excuse to start the plot, especially when those science fiction elements don't help the plot at all.
>>4541486
Apparently, the main group had ended, but it was mentioned that the second group would continue. At least, that's what I read in this same thread when someone mentioned the news. However, considering who started this project and the serious quality issues throughout the series, it's not surprising. If things improved for them after that, then good for them.
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>>4541489
I tend to not watch OVAs of hetshit, no.
>Where is this "het"
>just 2 girls "in love" [with the male MC]
Answered yourself there.
>Personal opinions are not arguments
Facts, however, are.
>what are we talking about then?
That series can be bad, yet not het. Idolmaster so happens to be both bad AND het.
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>>4541493
>>I tend to not watch OVAs of hetshit, no.
So don't talk about something you don't have the slightest fucking idea about, and even more so don't pretend to have knowledge about something you don't have. It's one thing to not see an adaptation and another to generalize about yuri in general.
>>Answered yourself there.
That's a Het element, it doesn't make the series Het, which is what you're trying so hard to achieve.
>>Facts, however, are.
something you have never contributed.
>>That series can be bad, yet not het. Idolmaster so happens to be both bad AND het.
Your narrative not only falls apart with normal adaptations, but also with the existence of Sime-m, and no, I'm not going to tell you why (no, it's not the yaoi).
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>>4541492
Which is a fact that you see when watching actual anime, but that seems too mature for the other anon... By the way, where did that crap about yuri starting in 2024 come from? How backward can someone be to say that?
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>>4541502
>By the way, where did that crap about yuri starting in 2024 come from? How backward can someone be to say that?
Looks like someone said there's been open yuri since 2004 and someone somehow quoted it as 2024
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>>4541506
Not defending IMAS. But according to this rule: Happy Sugar Life and other anime that have het side characters are not yuri because "has het". Again, not defending Idolmaster. I just think the argument is not good
Cosmic Princess Kaguya could be said to have het elements with the engagement battles. It is men pursuing a girl. het by definition.
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>>4541504
No, the adaptations (at least the first two; Xenoglosia doesn't count) have yuri, being more prominent in the CG versions where it's more integrated with the characters and plot. The het you mention is almost anecdotal; Miki's relationship is completely ignored in Million Live, a series that, along with Shiny Colors, has no het. But at the same time, there's no yuri beyond a weak shipptease that requires prior knowledge, so calling that a het series is simply stupid. Where the hell did this idea of lust for the producer come from? Not even the hetfags have sunk that low in that regard.
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>>4541515
The fact it's an adaptation of harem self insert shit games where the producer is the self insert. And this self insert is still in the adaptations. Are you gonna pretend the FGO anime and Blue Archive are also yuri and ignore Fujimaru and Sensei to push your retard agenda next?
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>>4541516
Kid, those shows are real garbage, self-insertation. What hurts the most is that F/GO and even Extra have female options who were killed off in the first episode, and BA is the most mediocre garbage that could have been made with the property. Apparently, the fans are complaining too. It doesn't help that it has a Het moment that no one in their right mind would have approved of, but the fans didn't win either.
No, don't pretend that the im@s adaptations are at the same level or do the same thing, not even the last 3 mediocre ones.
All you've been doing for hours is yelling and crying; you don't have a single valid or decent argument, especially when you don't have any real knowledge of what you're complaining about.
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>>4541518
Honestly, that was super childish and you can't call it real love. Even Miki's crush disappears completely in Million Live, since they're in the same room and Miki doesn't do a damn thing. I don't know if that's character development or laziness.
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>>4541534
I don't need to be an expert on a hetshit series to know it'll be hetshit.
You, for some reason, have to watch an entire series, every single episode, to know. And for some reason this is a point of pride for you?
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>>4541540
The problem is that you're generalizing something as if it were Het, when either it isn't Het or the Het present is irrelevant or less important than it actually is (no specific case). If you don't want to see that, no problem, it's your life and your time. But going around pretending you know a series you haven't basically seen and acting like an absolute expert who refuses to accept the point of view of people who do know the series, what do you expect people to say to you?
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>>4541543
>you're generalizing something as if it were Het
Because it is.
>what do you expect people to say to you?
I'd expect people who actually watched a series and know it's not yuri to not post it on the yuri board, but trolls gotta troll.
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It's probably not worth making S3 for something which isn't getting more content, you may say that but her illness plays directly into how strong some aspects of the series are, Shamiko spend all her childhood in the hospital, you know who also did spent all her childhood in the hospital?
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Maintext adaptation
Kamiina Botan
CGDCT adaptation (maybe some subtext?)
Ichijyoma Mankitsu Gurashi!
I heard good things but could be shippers going wild
Witch Hat Atelier
Anime Original (watch at your own risk)
Ghost Concert. Apparently spiritual successor to Symphogear. There's a monk dude among the girls but he could be Genjuuro or Ogawa. Can't say for sure it's worth it or not yet
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How come men get called gay for liking femboys, but female artists who draw lewd women with voluptuous bodies in skimpy clothing don't get called lesbians?
The other day my friend was walking and holding hands intimately with her wife. Some lady at the coffee shop saw them and was like "are you guys sisters?" She got furious. It seems like even when girls make out in public, normies will say they're not actually gay, just whores doing it for male attention. Do men get called whores for kissing other men?
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>>4541641
>the main girl trio
The main girls in WHA are a quartet, are you sure you're not thinking of something else?
>>4541733
As objectively as possible: there's a boy who has a crush on the MC though it's always been one-sided. One of the other three apprentice witches has had ship teasing with another boy while another gradually went from being the MC's bully to also having a crush on her (pic related is from the most recent chapter) and she's gone further on it than the boy due to various story circumstances though it's not mutual thus far either. The two adult men on the anime key art are the girls' teachers and effectively their two dads, with strong yaoi undertones between them. Never teased with the girls even as a joke.
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>Ghost Concert.
>Apparently spiritual successor to Symphogear.
Another one? I thought that was Princession Orchestra, or maybe they'll release several projects other than Symphogear and see which one sticks the longest.
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>Yeah sorry that’s too much het for me to call this Yuri.
>Not to mention the Yaoi bait you’re mentioning.
This is a bad combination; no matter how yuri the MC's character is, everything else will feel off-putting at best, and if the adaptation gains popularity, prepare for the hetfags inventing things that don't exist.
I'm going to watch the anime anyway, but for the die-hard fans of the series, prepare for the hetfag stupidity.
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>>4541745
Orchestra is SymphoPrecure, yes. But Ghost Concert is being called the "next installment of song battle series after Symphogear". Probably the difference is that Princession is an sunday morning original airing in timeslot for kids with toys and such. While Ghost Concert is a late night original for adult otaku
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With Medalist and now WHA it seems we have to be careful of another kind of manga besides plain het.
Non-yuri manga with het possibilities that is overrated by shippers going crazy and pushing delusions. The way people talk about both, you'd think they're actual maintext instead of some teases and the het possibility being open
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>>4541811
How so? It's by different people and it's ending this sunday and it's been quite nice and better than recent Precure seasons
Really I only called it "SymphoCure" because it's Symphogear for kid, for the Precure audience. Airing after it and also being a year long show non stop. That's where the similarities end really
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>>4541818
>WP was bad
So a cat was not fine too?
>Idol was great
I could swear the fairies-turned-Precures had subtext aplenty going on, but it got sidetracked tremendously for Uta's het crush (that apparently went nowhere)
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>>4541815
About Medalist
You gotta keep in mind it's inspired by Idolmaster games with Inori sharing a seiyuu with the author's favourite Idolmaster girl who inspired Inori
We all know Idolmaster games are big on the self insert producer x idol thing. Translate it to Medalist and the coach x student ending is a possibility
About Princession: Maybe not a high bar to clear but it wasn't me who was talking about Precure's quality. Again I just mentioned Precure to reference as a general idea of "year long magical girl battle show for kids". Precure is basically the only modern reference for that because it has a monopoly. Thus, why other magical girl creators decided to make their shows for an adult otaku audience (Madoka, Symphogear, Raising Project, Site, Asuka, Yuuki Yuuna, and such). Because competing directly with Precure scares many producers away.KR and Takara only let Kaneko make Princession because of Sympho's success probably
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>>Idol was great
That's a curious way of saying, mediocre at best.
>>4541823
>I could swear the fairies-turned-Precures had subtext aplenty going on,
They had it and it was something explicit, at least on the part of the one who had the same VA of Rura. But in practice, their relationship wasn't that important beyond the fanservice you might see in a bad Kirara series (Stella no Maho or Mono).
>>got sidetracked tremendously for Uta's het crush (that apparently went nowhere)
Uta's entire character was transformed and revolved almost entirely around that one-sided crush, which made him become the second worst male Cure since Infi (not saying much) and one of the most pathetic cameos of another Cure team, which turned out to be the male dancer team with a "look, this exists" and if that crap gets an anime (as some people want) you'll probably have EVERYONE calling that series gay or canon yaoi.
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>>Hardly an achievement.
Of the last 8 series, they have had 4 bad ones (Hug, Pary, Wan and Idol), 3 good ones (Sky, Kira Kira, Sky) and one acceptable one (HG), but it must be remembered that Maho 2 helped to save face after how not very good Otona was.
Princession is a good series overall; it gives secondary or "character of the week" real relevance after their debut, even having them face off against generic Mooks at one point. Even the Miku in the series genuinely showed a desire to fight alongside her Hibiki and was truly frustrated by it. Furthermore, it doesn't commit the same stupidities that have ruined Precure (meaning het).
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>>4541829
>>(Sky, Kira Kira, Sky)
It was tropical, but it serves to remind me that it had one of the best movies overall that really organically integrated the HeartCatch girls; the rivalry between Laura and Erika was beautiful.
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>>4541740
So to sum it up:
>one-sided het maintext with MC
>one-sided yuri subtext with MC
>het maintext side-couple
>yaoi subtext side-couple
Reminds me of Shy, where I had to wait till the manga was over to be sure it didn't end with a het main couple, which would've royally sucked after investing time in a long running series.
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>>4541815
>>But is the het in medalist really 'overrated by shippers going crazy and pushing delusions'?
Medalist is what people who know nothing about Im@s adaptations think those series are.
>>4541812
>With Medalist and now WHA it seems we have to be careful of another kind of manga besides plain het.
The problem with Medalist is that those who proclaimed it as yuri were the same kind of people who said something similar about Gridman and proclaim that the mediocre subtext of Dungeon Meshi is superior to anything yuri ever created; it's not for nothing that I compared Medalist to Mo Ippon from the beginning.
Based on those same ideas, we can assume that Princess Tutu and Shugo Chara are also yuri.
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>>4541844
The yuri part is an exaggeration by some people regarding a rivalry, since said rival is quite attractive and open in being affectionate with the MC, but nothing genuinely romantic.
The MC has a close relationship with her coach, where he technically lives out his frustrated dream through her, but their relationship is the focus of the series and is not something that can really be ignored.
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>>4541848
It's het, then.
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>>4541848
>not something that can really be ignored
It can as it'll never happen. If you want to focus on het, then mention the light teasing between kids of the same age that does exist, not this potential age gap relationship that you made up in your head.
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>>4541850
Usagi Drop exists, never say never.
At no point did I make any assertions, I only spoke about the real facts of said anime and that the only thing the fans brought during S1 was just one page of the manga and that they brought nothing but a sad fanart in S2, in addition to basically nothing about the anime or anything really yuri between the girls, I should tell you that maybe this is not a series that can deliver in the yuri part.
If someone wants to ship the girls or just enjoy the art, go ahead, that's their right, but let's not pretend that this is a yuri sports series on the same level as something like Gay Ping Pong or even Saki, because it isn't.
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>>4541833
Am I? The author has said Inori is based on the Imas girl her seiyuu voiced and his whole reason to write the manga was him being a passionate fan of the seiyuu and her Idolmaster character
Even if you think the manga isn't setting this up, and their bond is purely platonic, I'll tell you something: Usagi Drop was also seen as platonic until the manga went romantic and unpleasantly surprised people
Same can happen with Medalist. I wouldn't say this if the manga wasn't made by an Idolmaster mega fan. And the weird "the anime are yuri" cope doesn't work here because the Medalist author is explicitly a fan of the games
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>>4541857
It also creates a huge parallel with Umamusume, where some (idiots) complain about the existence of a coach, but these coaches are a genuine father figure and act as what they are, coaches, while the most character-driven relationships are between the girls (like normal people). This is an aspect that Medalist sorely lacks; the relationships between the skaters are barely present. The focus is on the relationships between them and the coaches (but to a lesser extent when the coach is female and more exaggerated when it's male; there was a girl who was very territorial with her coach). It can also be compared to Gunslinger Girl, and yes, that's het.
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At least comment on the news or something.
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>>4541831
There's no functional difference in treatment between the het and yuri crushes on the MC, either call them both subtext or maintext. Personally I think that if the MC is ever going to reciprocate, the yuri has a better chance for various reasons.The guy betrayed the MC and joined the antagonistic faction of rogue mages although with good intentions while the MC stubbornly wants to find her own solution to the conflict. When she was under threat of having her memories wiped, her fellow witch and her teacher were the first people she thought about, then everyone else. And her relationship with the other witch is set up to be extremely similar to that between the two teachers, from appearance to their respective mannerisms.
But yes, there are ten other reasons to read/watch WHA before the potential yuri. Don't force yourself if it doesn't look interesting to you for the art, setting and characters.
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>>4541891
>completely missed the point
It not being yuri doesn't preclude the fact that there is no het between the kid and her coach. You wanna say that it's het go ahead, there are certainly enough bits between teenage boys and girls for it to be, but don't spread false information.
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>>4541909
No, it simply shows that you care about the news and don't just post it without giving anything away; it's no different than posting screenshots without context. Even in this thread, news has been shared better than just a link.
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>>4541911
I care about the news, that's why I posted it to share it, there's no need to add a useless comment nobody cares about, what's important is the news.
You didn't even answered what kind of comment you need. A "nice"? A retarded buzzword like "kino"? Would that really change it for you?
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The red-haired girl is in the middle of a (serious) love triangle with two older men, and that's a super important part of the series. The other two are also more or less in love with one of those guys. There's a reason why nobody talks about this series here.
The "real yuri" part is limited to a miserable filler episode that is never relevant again.
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Fighting games yuri confirmed for july
https://xcancel.com/taiari_anime/status/2036729809750106402
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>>4541444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La-J-tGQj_c
https://x.com/DreameR_509/status/1872269260476858625
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>>4541925
Things are like that on au too. Atp nobody cares about the trolling. But I feel like we may have lost some of our best posters who were more passionate and thoughtful and gave us more in-depth discussions. Or maybe the current stuff available just isn't that interesting anymore. There's a lot of yuri and it's fun but it doesn't generate interesting discussions if that makes sense.
Au sucks because it's just memes and always just focused on the biggest manga and anime. The only difference in relation to reddit and twitter is that there's tolerance for some users' incessant tranny bashing even when it makes no sense.
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>>4542031
you seem to have mistaken me for one of the recurring yuri purists here, the issue i was complaining about was the product placement part, me noting that the yuri is already lackluster in the original was in the sense that it would've already been barely of interest if it was an actual adaptation, which it even isn't
i was not personally attacking you for posting stuff that doesn't belong on the board or something, calm your persecution complex
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>>4542033
>because it uses product placement it means it's going full original and it's not yuri
And in your bitching about the SF shit, you go back to contradicting yourself. Maybe it's you who needs to calm down. I doubt the product placement means it's going to be any different to the manga in terms of character relationships and anything else that isn't what game is played
You can't claim something is lackluster and "barely of interest" and then say calling it "product placement yuri" is accurate, because you're saying the "yuri" part is accurate. In the same post where you say it's super lackluster and barely even yuri
You make 0 sense besides being mad Capcom is bankrolling this and making them use actual SF footage, which is fair to complain about but going from that to "this isn't adapting any of the manga and will go full original" feels like a retarded overreaction
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You just make no sense. Is it yuri or not? How does inserting Street Fighter into the show mean it's going to change literally everything else to the point it's "not an adaptation"?
You hate the manga for being lackluster and Capcom making the anime use Street Fighter, that much I get. But what I don't get is:
why then do you claim it's yuri? Do you just fear being grouped with the people bitching about subtext? But your point is still that it isn't. You can't decide if it's yuri or not
2) Again, why do you claim it's gonna go full original just because Capcom made them shill Street Fighter?
You just don't communicate your points properly
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Going forward the story becomes like a typical sports manga, with constant tournaments and stuff, meaning more than 50% of the content is the fighting game itself.
So for most of those 20 minutes you'll be looking at random clips of SF6, except with VAs commenting in the background.
I wouldn't even call it anime, a couple lines of original dialogue can't make up for this shit.
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>>4542051
The issue with the manga is not having nothing, but being so fucking sparce because the videogame autism takes literally years to be done with it.
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Well my point is exactly that, I doubt or at least hope they won't pace the anime like this because it would be borderline unwatchable and maybe actually being something promoted as yuri will give the studio more liberties than they usually have with stuff like this.
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>>4542030
The problem can be several factors; it's not that there shouldn't be discussion, but when you have idiots who derail a conversation and refuse to accept that they might be wrong, they spend hours going around in circles and it's almost 1 or 2 against everyone else.
Another problem is with adaptations. People who only watch anime and only want to talk about what happens in the anime are looked down upon for not knowing the source material, and the conversation tends to be complaints about the changes in the adaptation (even if they are good), complaints about the production values simply because it doesn't look like a movie, and the "real fans" will only talk about what happens in the original (with Assault Lily being one of the worst possible examples).
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>>The issue with the manga is not having nothing, but being so fucking sparce because the videogame autism takes literally years to be done with it.
It reminds me a bit of Yuru Camp, where similarly, it's not that there isn't any interaction, but rather that the mere interaction of the "main couple" is almost limited to a special event or the equivalent of a final battle with the long-arc antagonist in a Shonen Jump series.
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>>4542057
The girls could have lesbian sex and it'd still be het because they also want to fuck the male producer. Your "evidence" is fucking yuribait. Yeah they kiss, so? They still want to fuck a man That's not yuri. 2 girls touching each other before the male lead joins in is not yuri
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>They kiss
It's a kiss on the cheek and only meant for a joke, though I find this discussion between you two pointless as you are talking about a work with barely any canon to begin with, you two have made up your own realities when the work itself is just whatever they want to be at the moment, it just doesn't belong here.
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>>4542064
>>The girls could have lesbian sex and it'd still be het because they also want to fuck the male producer.
That's literally what happens in many eroge games and also in series that (mysteriously) Ericow considers yuri, and most of us forget that they exist.
>>Your "evidence" is fucking yuribait.
So the game is over and the girls are married to the producer? Because if you call it bait, that's what happened. It doesn't apply to series in progress, only completed ones, and whose interactions between the girls can border on the text.
>>2 girls touching each other before the male lead joins in is not yuri
You just defined the reason why the "couple" Rikka and Akane is a thing.
>>Yeah they kiss, so? They still want to fuck a man
This isn't my evidence, and I don't consider games like Koihime Musou, Nekopara, Aiokana, or even Azur Lane to be relevant to yuri. But at the end of the day, they're their own thing, and that's why "fans" of the original complain about their mere existence; the existence of one doesn't invalidate the other.
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The problem is that I do have real evidence of things that actually happen in the adaptations. His complaints are based solely on what the games have been doing for years, but that's where the problem lies. The games aren't really a yuri theme for the tabletop. There's no reason to mention them because this crap manages to live on through a producer who isn't even a real person (unlike Anata in Love Live). But there's no problem mentioning the adaptations, which are the ones that at least try to include yuri, and there's merit in trying to do that in a franchise focused on player self-gratification. It creates a better series and characters. (Not Mayu, though; that character is impossible to fix.)
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That would make sense if the relationships were strong or truly prominent, so seeing them together again would feel rewarding, but the opposite is true; they interact little and in between, to the point that you forget they're even a thing, and it's no wonder people prefer to go the NTR route which mysteriously has more interactions... on Rin's part, since Nade matters little or not at all.
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I dunno what they were thinking. Maybe it will end yuri, but it clearly seems the anime won't satisfy much
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But then why is it marketed with yuri tag? They could market it as cute girls do fighting games but they classify as yuri genre. That's the problem
Yuru Camp was never marketed as yuri, to keep using that example that was mentioned
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It's honestly a weird decision, I cannot tell if they decided it was too late to walk back on it and would just play along with the minimal effort or if they are testing to see if actually promoting it as yuri could generate a positive effect if the series is popular, though I am curious to see if we will get some cope from the anime staff
>Oh it's just "friendship yuri"
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>Oh it's just "friendship yuri"
Which, technically, is not contradictory to the term itself, but the only thing that will really determine how yuri something will be, is the series itself, because going back to the example of Yuru Camp, there is a reason why S1 achieved so many things and then everything was diluted in the yuri part from Heya Camp onwards and Mono was embarrassing.
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>>4542138
>>But then why is it marketed with yuri tag?
I wouldn't know if this is how the industry responds to the growing popularity of yuri; they put it wherever there's an opportunity, even if it's not entirely a lie, but not entirely true either... I even remember that anime that was supposed to be yuri with a man reincarnating as a microphone (and other things later) just to remove the yuri part from the title. It was also a mediocre product that tried very hard, and the only memorable thing the guy did was make one of the girls confess her feelings to the other, which wasn't even shown.
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>何度でも言いたい、女の子同士で恋愛感情が芽生えて、百合になる瞬間は尊い...
>ずっと友達だった子の顔を見るだけですごくドキドキしたり...互いにちょっとしたことで意識したり...
>そんなもどかしくも尊い関係性が良い...
>友情から恋愛感情...互いに惹かれ合う様子はとても幸せな光景です...(*´-`)
>I want to say it over and over: the moment when romantic feelings blossom between girls and they become yuri... it's so precious...
>Just looking at the face of a girl who's been her friend forever and makes her heart race so much... or when they both start becoming aware of each other over the smallest things...
>That frustrating yet precious relationship dynamic is what makes it so good...
>From friendship to romantic feelings... the way they gradually draw each other in is such a happy sight... (*´-`)
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>>4542177
No, this is what you are not getting Fishe just eat people because they were food to her, Miko was literally going out of her way to make people suffer and laughing about it until the monk basically enslaved her and forced her to help people
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>>4542256
>Isn't the game in the manga basically Street Fighter anyway?
Its a random nondescript fighting game, with entirely made up characters and moves, but some of the moves are just parodies of shoto moves like shoryukens and hadoukens.
The final hit results in a "fatality" and they put a mosaic over the character, but a lot of the tech jargon is from older SF entries like SF2 or third strike, and the menus like the winscreen and the game mechanics like EX's/Supers/graps are more reminiscent of SFIV. The existence of drive rush in SFVI alone kind of throws a wrench into things, and they'd have to change thing up to accommodate for it. Honestly most things, including the fake name of the game they use lean more towards SFIV if anything
>Doesn't this make the footage simple to get instead of some weird CGI the studio will have to recreate?
its jarring and look incredibly lazily on top of being obvious paid product placement for [current thing]. they couldn't even take the time to get accurate footage as stuff like ping indicators, ranks, and platforms are still visible (something that shouldn't be visible during offline local matches, only online matches).
Going original doesn't mean they have to make it CGI either, they could just fucking animate it in 2D, the matches in the manga aren't exactly highly detailed or anything and are more of just vague recreations. If they HAD to make it a licensed series, i wouldve preferred they just done third strike or SFIV.
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Ohwow. Holyshit. I didn't expect this to be translated but it's actually happening. Time to find outif KuruYuu's popularity really is warranted Yuri Club at Kyoto Universityhow much of a bitch Azuma-san was in the books.
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>>4542303
Very good question. From the movie, Azuma comments she wants to "befriend/secretly recruit" one of the girls Kurumi which turns into a 5 minute scene gushing about how cute she is. And the guy she is sitting with literally says "girl, are you gay?"The actual story is a coming of age closer to Harriet the Spy
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>>4541844
I won't be the one claiming Medalist is yuri but Hikaru is pretty damn gay for Inori. The latest volumes had some nice progress to their relationship, but romance is clearly not something the manga is gonna tackle with them still being13 year olds. The mangaka has written yuri before so there's that.
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>>4542444
I was wondering if all this was revealed at this point in the source. It reeked of "fuck it, this isn't getting a second season ever, let's throw a bunch of spoilers and reveals, it doesn't matter anymore. This project is doomed". Seems I was right, and it was indeed a bunch of spoilers from later on thrown randomly because S2 never
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Probably just misunderstanding and not muffunderstanding
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>>4542458
>blatant male love interest
Who actually doesn't appear all that much though. Note that I was the one telling said the other anon to not expect anything.
But I love the "sudden homoerotic (literal) awakening" trope so simply had to post that.
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>>4542428
There's so much focus on Rioh's feelings towards Hikaru that the "guy has a one-sided crush on a girl and she falls in love with him as time goes on" trope feels inevitable. It'd be a (pleasant) surprise if the love that Hikaru feels for Inori actually turns out to be romantic.
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>>4542445
The bane of modern shows never having more than 12 episodes. The final stretch of the episode had such a fucked-up pacing from shoving so many hooks in. Shit would be different if they had another cour to end it in a more natural and climatic spot.
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>>4542444
Frankly, this isn't even the first time I've seen this, but I've seen much more blatant examples, like in that anime about the girl with the ever-growing hair and the magic scissors. They threw in a bunch of moments that happened in the original but hadn't happened in the anime, in a 2-minute montage before the ED, or they threw in exposition of future events (like 5 subplots) at the end of the first Z/X anime.
The message is the same, "you won't see all this in action, because of you for not buying the anime." It doesn't encourage you to read the original; it directly accuses you of being a bad fan.
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>Omae Gotoki
>last episode resolves a lot of missing stuff with exposition, and adds enough hooks to make a fishing store jealous
>ends
Might as well plaster a giant "READ THE NOVEL, STUPID!" sign on the screen for 24 minutes.
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>>4542593
What you're saying doesn't make sense. We're not in the 2000s anymore (or even the 90s) when "adaptations" were incredibly bland, barely touching the original material or completely disregarding it, resulting in something entirely different and not even better than the original, just shorter.
When you have a work still in publication, it's normal to work with the material to be adapted in the future in mind; nobody makes a series hoping it will fail.
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>>4542629
Though to be fair one of the main issues is that the anime made a salad bowl of the novels and the manga which changes pretty much everything about volume 2 and the anime ended with an anime original episode mixing parts of the start of volume 3 with parts of the ending of volume 2
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>>4542633
Even so, it didn't completely lose its identity. Compare what happened with things like Venus vs Virus or Rozen Maiden, where the anime is basically a completely different series with similarities instead of an adaptation.
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>>4542771
It died after StrikerS, when they were betting on the duo of Force as the new main serious story and Vivid as a lighthearted sports thing to give some screentime to characters that wouldn't be so involved in FORCE and balance the edgy serious story of Force. But the Force failed miserably as it kept delaying chapters alongside people not liking the villains and a het couple as focus while old favourites job
A's is the peak, but there was still some good after. It's after Force's failure that they didn't know what to do and first tried focusing on Vivid and Vivid Strike maybe with the idea of focusing on the magic sports shit and a new generation
But after that they did Reflection and Detonation and are trying this reboot movie timeline
They trusted FORCE too much
>>4542768
You should stop posting this shit here. The doomers will just repeat their scrip over and over. No one in this board is interested in the franchise anymore
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>>4542926
Let's just say as you can see in the novel artwork in picrel that Sarah is as safe with Nagass as Ink is with Eterna
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>>4542963
Keeping up all the trends as expected.
I think the worst failing in the series handling is that after any character's arc is done, they're not able to involve them on a personal level anymore, they're either written off or turned into glorified bystanders, including Nanoha and Fate themselves, as more and more new characters keep being piled up instead so that they can have their own single arc with no meaningful lasting effects, and the cycle continues.
It all comes down to lack of competence on the creator/writer's side, he can't do continuity, and that's always held his franchise back.
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Gubured sisters, but onee-loli
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>>4542963
Guest starring: Nanoha
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>>4542984
As another Anon mentioned, they basically use Nanoha's name as a way to attract attention, while doing something completely different and keeping Nanoha out of the picture, as happened in the last 2 movies.
The funny thing is that while StrikerS and Vivid introduced new and more characters, Nanoha and Fate (a little bit of Hayate) remained relevant. In the final fights in StrikerS everyone was important and contributed what was necessary. It was in Force where they liked turning Nanoha and friends into secondary characters.
I find the fan reception curious (at least the people who make fan art). There's a lot of material related to StrikerS, Vivid, and even Vivid Strike, but practically nothing related to Force, and to a lesser extent the latest movies, despite the popularity of the Materials.
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>>4542984
>Create a whole new timeline
>Status quo remains the same but the yuri is borderline nonexistent now
>Also refuses to write any actual character driven plot and so the protagonists are just bystanders in others' stories
It's very obvious they just wanted to sell loli and teenager merch again since the hags were not doing so well but in the process they basically removed anything that made the character likeable in the first place
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>>4543015
I keep insisting and I stand by it, appealing to Lolinoha only has the silly waifufags in mind, and even more so those stupid hetfags who still pretend that those terrible Het options are a thing, why do you think that ferret kid is now part of Hayate's team? when the guy was never attached to the military, he's an archaeologist not a soldier.
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Thoughts on this mecha yuri anime?
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>>4543017
I really doubt it, this character archetype vanished a long time ago, you would see them in CGDCT stories back then like Saki, but the thing is they don't really work out for this purpose you are implying, the only way to make this happen is to make their role to be unambiguously romantic in nature like happened with G Witch and of course doing this with Nanoha would definitely create the final shit storm which kills the franchise for good.
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>>4543022
You're underestimating the mentality of the Hetfags, who have been in denial and delusions for years, they are even the most vocal about the just and necessary almost discarding of the ferret boy (giving him the same VA as Vivio should have been reason enough for them to realize that the character was no longer important) it's not an archetype or some logical structure, it's nothing more than cheap fanservice appealing to the wrong audience (those who don't give a damn about Nanoha)
>>4543019
Considering that the new timeline is a bad idea, I wouldn't be surprised if they give even more prominence to those two because of the same stupid people who keep saying that Nonoha is Het because Lyrical Toy Box exists, and that's without any irony.
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>>4543031
I'm not arguing they are not delusional, I'm arguing the industry realized eons ago this audience you are talking about don't need a guy in the story anymore, all they need is for the girls to not refuse guys, this is why they avoid the yuri terminology so much, because it makes blatant clear there is no other possible interpretation for the story.
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>>4543021
It's very Evangelion-inspired but for an indie project it's well made and I liked both episodes, the second is noticeably better than the first so keep that in mind if you're not feeling it right away.
>>4542886
Extremely cute but the short hair is what puts the f in fAgott.
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>>4543041
>magical girl
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>>4542522
Something with this kind of content in the source (gore, onee-loli with the loli being legit 10 (Neigass and Sara)) would never go to good staff or have more than a single cour at any point in time
It's the kind of thing the industry has always sidelined. It's too niche
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>>4543014
I wouldn't say the last 2 movies kept Nanoha out of the picture. At least not to an extent that bothered me. Vivid and Vivid Strike actually did that much more. To the point Nanoha's name is not in Vivid Strike at all.
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>>4543065
With Vivid, you have to consider that Vivio is the heir and daughter of Nanoha and Fate, so it makes sense, it's a new generation, but that doesn't diminish the importance of either of them. With Vivid Strike she doesn't appear, neither Nanoha nor Fate are disparaged (it's even made clear how the Bureau disguises things for the public, by selling people on the idea that there was no problem with Vivio's origin or life)
The problem in the movies is completely different; they are genuine supporting characters or secondary figures, who are only in those movies for brand recognition, and the fact that the Material Girls are alternate versions of the main trio has no real weight beyond any explanation. The movies are the story of the sisters, and you only have the unnecessary sacrifice of Nanoha where she almost dies, just to generate cheap drama and pretend that Nanoha was important.
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>>4543064
Übel Blatt and Helck, other fantasy series with similar issues of dark themes and widespread death, seem to suffer from similar problems and maintain a relatively low profile; even Ishura, with its aversion to leaving certain characters alive, could be considered an example. What needs to be considered is that at least the first two don't have any real "Het"
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>>4543068
Well, watch them again, because that's what they were, and the saddest part, which many are probably forgetting, is that Raising Heart and Bardiche are absent 99% of the movie, since substitutes are used the rest of the time, and in the end, that doesn't matter either.
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>>4543070
Aren't RH and Bardiche recasted in this new season? So I'd say the problem with their screentime is that they weren't able to use the classic voices and couldn't find new voices
But I watched the movies several times and never had the issue of seeing the classic characters as secondaries in the new characters' story. It's not something I noticed or bothered me
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I remember when Igor from Persona's original seiyuu died and everything since his death until Persona 5 just sidelined Igor and played stock voice clips from previous material, and then when 5 finally got him a new seiyuu, "Igor" was an imposter and actually the final boss
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>>4543084
>never had the issue of seeing the classic characters as secondaries in the new characters' story
Not that anon but I can see where he's coming from, the old cast in the movies is literally a bunch of police officers solving the case of the week, there are no personal stakes for any of them that go beyond the dry "let's save people!" motive, they're just doing their job.
The sisters on the other hand felt like the real main characters, their whole lives were defined by what happened in those movies, all they needed from the titular character was brute force, now that the movies are over she is exactly the same person she was before they begun, zero meaningful development.
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>>4543135
>yuri
>clamp
I remember the old series. It bent itself backwards giving males to the girls to lust after. So no, it's not.
Also, what is it with the zombie franchises in this day and age? Can't get a new horse to beat to death?
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Finished Noir after putting the girls with guns trilogy off for forever, and It was a lot better than i was expecting. The cinematography and music were really fucking good. I dont know if its a budget issue, but i wish more anime put some effort into how they frame their shots and their use of color. Now i'm a half dozen episodes into el cazador and it's been pretty disappointing compared to Noir, feels a lot more slapstick and by the numbers so farDoes anyone know what the importance of the grave in ep3 of Noir that Mireille kept visiting was? The other lady said it was her husband, but Mireille called her out on the lie, then she conceded but admitted it was true they liked those flowers. Then at the end Mireille makes a vague comment about knowing it wasnt their real grave. Was she using it as a like a proxy for her parents grave, and it was just a coincidence that they liked the same flowers or something? i dont know how else to interpret the scene
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>there is no way that this will be yuri, even in some alternate crazy dimension where everything is lesbian
I know, that's why I'm already taking my coping pills.
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>>4543314
To be fair, it has the development and integrity of a porn film, so if you want to consider one of the culprits of that terrible idea about yuri, you could point to that series, but the fact that as a work it has little or no real impact on yuri in general, should tell you what you need to know.
>>worst of Clamp's works
It's not much of an achievement, but you have to consider that most of their anime adaptations (which is what people really care about) come from a time when anime and manga had more differences than similarities, so people might have a mistaken idea of what CLAMP is really about. I'm no expert, so I'm not going to criticize that group too unfairly, but it's not like they had much real yuri associated with them.
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Shy doesn't end with the girls explicitly dating, one of the arcs before makes clear Iko feelings's for Taru are romantic in nature, if the kiss on the fake Teru wasn't enough of a hint and even though they both are really close in the final arc, literally fighting the final boss while holding hands all the time, there isn't really any conclusion to their relationship, just a chapter of them helping a straight couple in the valentines and later trading chocolates as you would expect girlfriends to do, the implication is obvious but at the same time it's your classic make whatever you want from it ending.
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>>4543446
You said ended this way, Shokugeki ends with Soma realizing his feelings and Yugioh never has any scene implying they are a couple, actually the movie even retconned Anzu to not be in love with Yugi and only Anthem.
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>>4543484
That movie is in the manga continuity; in the anime continuity, not much is known about Yugi beyond him giving Winged Kuriboh to Yudai and appearing at the end for a ceremonial duel. In the end, the author didn't give a damn about this or any other pairing anyway. The only series with a confirmed main heterosexual pairing is Zexal; the rest are left hanging or are like crap in Go Rush.
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>>4543446
Digimon Adventure would be another example: 2 confirmed couples off-screen, since the epilogue is still canon, even though everyone hates it.
You'd also have something like Honey and Clover with an apparent and super lame confirmation of a couple, which is hardly romantic at all, since they both act like children, also Re:life with the final couple giving each other a simple hug with the camera far away and without actually saying it.
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>>That's more than just blushing and holding hands
The problem is that it's not even a thing, you simply have to accept the existence of two couples with barely any chemistry or real moments.
>>4543553
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>>4543632
>ask about het that is handled similar to Shy's yuri
>surprised when people answer and discuss it
Maybe accept Shy is yuri and romance in action shows can be like that instead of wanting a gotcha "het doesn't suffer from this". The moment you ask about het, you'll get answers and discussions about het
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>>4543628
>>the het in the series was maintext while the gay was subtext
We would have to look at the het examples to see how they really handled yuri, since I don't trust comparisons much, as many declare as het text something that is barely even subtext.
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>>4543653
Especially in terms of yuri, it's not as ambiguous as Noir, but rather plays out quite explicitly as romance.
This anime receives complaints similar to Kiddy Girl-and, despite being more yuri than the previous ones, for nonsense that isn't really romantic in the het part, since, you know, it involves an obsessive antagonist who is defeated.
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>Madlax
Although I don't like Madlax as a series or as a whole (it's not good, accept it), the only het thing I remember is something one-sided from a guy towards Madlax (girl) and maybe her flirting with some man, but not that extreme, but I can't say the same about Kiddy Grade which is more ambiguous, in the bad sense.
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>>4543679
They call it a trilogy because it's from the same animation studio and the anime styles are similar, with Madlax being the most different of the three. However, they are completely independent series, but honestly, there's not much to lose by watching all three (maybe with Madlax, but it has a yuri ending, not the one you might expect, but it's better than nothing).
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>>4543655
>We would have to look at the het examples to see how they really handled yuri
This is the third to last chapter and the closest to a romantic resolution it ever got:
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>>4543694
I don't understand the complaints. The yuri pairing has an entire manga proving why it works, and this het pairing serves to show that Shy is a kind-hearted person for using her powers for something so silly. So no, this isn't het text vs. yuri subtext; it's just a suitable situation to refute something.
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>>4543772
>this isn't het text vs. yuri subtext
it literally is, nothing that happens in the 'entire manga' is explicit yuri-wise, while for instance that het couple has always been, up to the same chapter that acts as romantic resolution, of which it occupies about 90%
it's nice that we got what little we got over time, but i can at least see where the complaints came from, if they can do it for het why not for yuri
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>>4543773
Because of the structure and foundations of both couples, it's not the same. One needs to be more direct because it has less time and real development. It's not unlike the Disney idea of romance (which ruined the perception of romance for people who grew up with those movies). Let's be honest, nobody is going to remember that heterosexual couple, in contrast to the yuri couple that is truly loved by the fandom and will be what is remembered in the future.
How many of you remember the plot of the brothers in Kannazuki no Miko or the 5 couples or Het options of Mai-hime?
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>>4543780
Or alternatively, Hetfags are more stupid and need a diagram making it clear to them that the pairing is one thing, because they can't handle subtext. That's why something like Working has to stop being a comedy to push a handful of mediocre and poorly implemented pairings, because this is the kind of crap these people like: easily digestible garbage that doesn't require any real thought or effort. That's why Oregairu is one of these people's favorites after mutating from a comedy into a generic piece of crap worse than what it was supposed to be in the first place, Haganai, which ironically is actually hated by the same Hetfag fandom.
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>>4543779
>>crossed the line SHY didn't.
Why kill off their characters and have people clamoring for a sequel that only made things worse, just to keep experimenting until they got what they wanted and ignore the fact that there's actually a version of the couple that does have a happy ending with less effort, but it's in a het spin-off where the het couple doesn't end up together and the fandom prefers a joke trailer that pairs the boy's two romantic interests as a yuri couple but without the boy?
People seem to forget that both manga and anime have ambiguous endings.
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>>4543777
If you look at the catalog, there's a bunch of threads that reached the image limit, but are still far from falling off, some have barely reached the bump limit. Some of these are specifically to post pics. Why should people have to make 10 threads to post porn instead of using a single one for a longer time?
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>>4543803
The board wasn't meant for a single anon to be image spamming and then bumping his own threads every time they reach page 10 and then reporting every new thread not made by him, the whole point of the structure of the board is to have threads competing with themselves and falling off if they were not popular enough, they were never meant to last more than a day, this only happens on dead boards like this.
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>>4543809
It's not just that anon. Right now there are 2 threads for stuff like scissoring, BDSM and breastfeeding. That's already 3 spots wasted on nothing. While they are on-topic for the board, people have to create new threads even if the old one is on like page 5 because they are made to post pictures only and they take months to fall off. Mods should either increase the image limit or reduce the bump limit so threads will hopefully die faster
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>>4543781
>Haganai, which ironically is actually hated by the same Hetfag fandom.
Must be because the subtext between two of the girls is so thick you could cut it with a knife, and because the series ends with the male MC dumped by the "winner"
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