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Bespoke shadows, please understandu!

>>737081405
the greatest scam in the history of gaming, literal art regression and lazy effects behind a paywall lmaooo

>>737081405
lmao
there is no way left isn't the lowest settings or some shit. wtf is that? middle also sucks balls. I refuse to believe.

>>737081405
The RE Engine got rid of shadows in the name of optimization, you're welcome poorfag.

>>737081724
You can imagine shadows

>>737081775
Thats what i dont get. RE2 remake looked great and ran on anything

>>737081905
Prease understand, rtx and dlss are good right! Prease try dlss 5.0 later this year

>>737081405
Learned incompetence

>>737081405
It's only going to keep getting worse and worse. There are enough retards in this industry now who want to justify their cards and more than enough poojeets and retarded devs just plugging it in unreal or other engines

>>737081405
I'll never got the big deal to raytracing let alone path tracing. It's weird seeing them about change gimmick. Were amd cards catching up or something?

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>>737081405
where oh where can my baby be
capcom took her away from me

>>737081405
Capcom's ray/path tracing tech has a lower impact on performance compared to everyone else right now

>>737081775
it's not just shadows. look at the car's details.
i expect something like that from 2020 AAA game at the lowest settings.

>>737082252
They used to make their games look good without any of this crap. I sold my 3090 build and just opted to buy an xbox rog ally and a switch 2. It doesn't matter. I just want to play games and this nonsense isn't going to stop

>>737081405
>crapcom developers are incompetent retards.
you don't say.

>>737081405
just dont be poor

>>737082639
>just buy a $4k GPU to play game at 30-40fps.
bruuh

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>>737082252
There are literally games from the 90s with better graphic design. Smelly jeet.

>>737082927
I agree but that's not a video game

>>737081405
that's not raytracing.
here i thought UE5 was bad, this is on another level.

>>737081905
>looked great
Some of the worst implementation of SSR I've ever seen in my life.

>>737081724
Even the one on the right looks shitty, what the fuck.

>>737086269
nah it looks good, your eyes are just faggots

so many games add like one tiny little minuscule aspect of ray tracing like "ray traced shadows" and call it a day, and sometimes even just call it "ray tracing" as if to try and make some selling point

>>737081405
Regretting my 7900xtx slightly

>>737086319
lmao

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>>737081405
It's a very cherry picked shot. The cars don't look particularly good with PT either.

>>737086798
why is the van floating?

you should have buyderized a blackwell 6000 by now

>>737081405
Game is filled with store bought asset
This game is just high quality asset flip

>>737081405
middle one looks the most realistic if you've ever see a car irl (op hasn't because he's indian)

>>737081405
(((crapcom)))

>>737081905
It wasn't, it blurry as it was run in 640p, it had tons of reflective surfaces that looked like shit with ssr. To "fix" this you should enable downsampling + rtx and get below 60fps. Also this crap had traversal stutters

>>737087003
moonbase

>>737081405
SH2 Remake was like this too. Without ray tracing enabled the lighting was completely fucked. The interiors of buildings were way too dark since without RT there was basically no interior illumination. I hate the RT jew so fucking much. But OP pic is even worse since without path tracing it looks like shit.

>>737081405
>a cost cutting measure is used to cut costs
BREAKING NEWS

>>737081405
They wanted it to run on tablet hardware

>>737082236
I remember playing RE5 back in the day and being floored by how well that game ran. I did like requiem but it leaves me sour that I couldn't play with PT due to idiotically high computing demand and PT only worked well with DLSS set to ultra performance. I played at native res without PT instead.

>>737082236
DMC4 ran really nice and looked good

>>737081405
There's no fucking way that's real.

>>737081405
i cant imagine still being a console fag lmao
my 5080 and 9800x3d had a great experience in RE9

>>737098524
Why wouldn't it be? Artists set lights to be non-shadow casting all the time.

>>737082892
just turn on x6 frame gen chud. ghosting? artifacts? what's that.

>>737081405
>if you use PS3 rendering instead of modern day rendering the games looks like a PS3 game
Wooooooow

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>>737081405
Ray tracing and path tracing allows developers to be lazy, and offload the cost to the consumer.
Just stop supporting games that use this shit if you want it to go away.

>>737081405
its a nvidia sponsored game brainlet

Should've bought a 5090 when they were semi-affordable. Sorry

>>737081405
I have a suspicion Romeo is a Dead Man also pulled this shit, because you either have no shadows or take a massive FPS hit in that piece of shit game.

>>737099636
It won't go away it will only get worse.

>>737100726
Yes because the cattle who buys games are easily tricked by shiny big words like ray-tracing and path-tracing. They can't actually use their eyes and see that video game visuals are rapidly getting worse over time thanks to this fucking bullshit that requires copium like hallucinated framerates and frame reconstruction to reach somewhat passable output with smears, ghosting and high input latency.

>>737100676
Every single game does this, every single one.

>>737091665
AEIOU

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>>737081405
>Nerf vanilla lighting to promote jewvidia

poors btfo once again

What I don't get is how dev times have become so big if you are still off-loading so much shit to an auto-lighting tech

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Re engine was a mistake

>>737100982
Not to that degree, shadows are never free but having simple blob shadows doesn't implode your framerate if you've got anything even vaguely resembling modern hardware. Their settings not even giving you a blob shadow option really makes it look like Romeo's code is hanging together with string and gum or they're using some kind of raytracing for all their shadows. I guess Suda's studio being that incompetent isn't a complete stretch either though.

>>737101321
>Not to that degree
Yes, to that degree, all AAA right now do it.

>>737081405
You wouldn't think the left looks bad if you never saw the right. It's just what comparisons do. They're not there to inform you. They're there to sell you the thing. Because without the comparison you wouldn't even know what you're missing out on, you feeble minded gamer.

>>737101591
The car literally doesn't cast a shadow, you don't need the right to understand it looks like shit

>>737081405
Wheres the dlss5 slide?

>>737101207
>Blaming art director choices on the engine
Holy fucking retard

All I'm hearing is poorfag whining

You can run path tracing on like a 5060

>>737101804
good morning sar

>>737101804
make that 5050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTFSHfI3HzI

All the console platforms Pragmata launches on support hardware raytracing. The toilet mode you wan't is too little return for the investment. You should be grateful it even runs on 10-series.

>>737100967
you(declining in relevance) and their overcooked books are the actual products. the games are just a fig leaf of legitimacy at this point.

>>737101789
Show me 1 good looking re engine game
Mh sunbreak has some good maps but still looks inferior to mt framework

>>737101804
Not possible without DLSS quality / performance and 2-3x FG.
Which introduces shit ton of artifacts. But even if you can cope with that added latency is painful. 60ms for a shooting gaming isn't playable.

>>737081405
>add in new effects that improve old shadows
>take out effects
ZOMG NO SHADOWS?!!!

>>737101907
>1080p
>dlss quality
>2x fg
all of that and 26fps low and stutters. I bet he has like 100ms+ latency. This is retarded.

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Yeah if you turn off settings they in fact do turn off. Who could have known.

ps3 didn't have reflections?

>>737081405
It has to run on switch 2 somehow dude.

>>737102828
okay, maybe ps2 graphics.

>>737102920
ps2 didn't have reflections?

>>737103003
they used mirror images, not really reflections.

>>737102768
Framegen is off

>>737102624
Wow the game made for switch looks inferior?

>>737081405
This game's RT absolutely sucks.
It feels like turning on, DLSS 2.0 while the performance almost cuts in half. It's super noisy, especially floor. I genuinely thought there was something wrong with my GPU. Never seen a game looking this ass with RT.

>>737086798
>that van
i thought the japs were good at making games

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Raytracing has been a scam since day 1. Absolutely destroy your performance and make the game look blurry as shit because you have to turn on DLSS for more frames just to sort of get back the type of lighting and shadows you got for free 20 years ago. I remember when mirrors and reflections in games just worked and most games had dynamic lighting that looked BETTER than this ray traced crap. Fucking N64 and Dreamcast games were able to do this shit. Every recent "advancement" in graphics for the past decade has only had the sole purpose of letting devs get away with putting in less work and it shows. Fuck deferred rendering.

>>737082236
Reminder that Dragons Dogma 1 was on MT and it ran like fucking ass on the 360, the target platform, and was crashzilla on the PS3.
Everyone loves to talk about how good the engine is like it's an innate thing while ignoring that the DMC4 aggressively optimized the living hell out of it because that style of game CANNOT have variable framerrates.

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>>737081405
>OP has the technical understanding of a 13 years old pajeet that dropped his first youtube notepad tutorial

>>737081405
what happened to capcom?
Graphically they're keep taking Ls. It feels like they don't put any effort anymore.

>>737086798
Why do all of them have fucking mirror finish when they're clearly not sunlit?

>>737081405
nvidia won

>>737106646
all glossed up with nowhere to go :(

>remove features that have been there for decades
>add a new feature that does the same thing but uses more GPU power
can't even remember when was the last time I bought a AAA 3D game.

>>737104127
PC chads didn't have this problem
ps3 and 360 were just weak as hell

>>737106767
pc chads didn't get the game for years and even then yes the optimization issues are still there it's just that PC's in general around 2017 were far more powerful than a 2005 console so it could be brute forced.

>>737103102
Name 1 dude

>>737081905
>RE2 remake looked great
Sure it does if you like every wooden surface looking wet

>>737081405
Having good shadows without raytracing means having prebaked shadows however that then also means that you need two completely different sets of textures, one with baked shadows for "low" settings and then another set without that you then do the raytracing on. Having another complete set of high quality textures in your game purely to make "low" settings look a bit better isn't worth all the extra effort and disc space.

>>737101207
Retard.

>>737086798
but mister huang said that pathtracing is da fucha.... did he lie to us bros????

>>737107450
left one is ultra settings.
right one is ultra settings + PT.
I also thought it was on low settings.

>>737081405
You see anon, making shadowmaps is hard work and takes time to bake for developer but free for you, whereas doing path tracing is free for the developer and you have to buy a new GPU, which is great for nVidia who sponsored the game.

>>737103294
RE Engine has never had good RT. It's minimalistic so it can run on consoles (old AMD GPUs).

RE4R looked worse to me with RT turned on, especially the lake.

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>WDYM changing the whole rendered to what's literally used for CGI movies is a huge improvement vs the shitty raster renderer?!?
retards.

>>737106907
no it's just the ps3 and 360 were toaster tier when DD1 released. almost all games were running at 22fps at that point while an el cheapo gpu like a 560ti or something would play the same games at 1080/60.

I had it on ps3 but didn't get far because its like 540p with black bars, runs at 20fps average and dips lower with screen tearing. when it released on pc I was playing it at 1080/120/max settings on a gtx 980.

>>737081405
So graphics are important?

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>>737081405
>game has shadows
>anons pc is literal potato
shocked I am

>>737107450
No, you can just set every lights to be shadow casting. It gets expensive but it's possible without baking.
For ambient occlusion there are ways as well without baking.

>>737109941
Anon you're just agreeing with me.
A GTX 980 is an enormous upgrade over what a base PS3 or a 360 had. Like several thousand times better in compute power, and we're not even talking about CPUs.
If you need hardware that is 10 years of development better than your target hardware then either you are banking on some genuinely insane future proofing plan or it's just unoptimized.

>>737101207
>pick one zone you never go when playing the game
>pick the starting area showcasing the shit weather from a shitty compressed youtube video
Always dishonest arguments against wilds

>>737101117
JOHN MADDEN

>>737109939
>shitty raster
Crysis 3 came out before ray tracing in vidya was a thing and it looked stunning, and still looks better than most modern AAA games. Path tracing has horrible performance and the only reason it is usable in vidya is the fact that new render denoising methods were created.

>>737112802
and many other games look stunning yeah but the point is, they would inevitably look better with a path traced renderer, no matter how hard they try in raster to account for everything they can't match pathtracing.

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>>737081405
Reflection probes never existed chud! Now stop noticing things and buy the new RTX card for only $9.999.

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>>737081405
It is the same push as ray tracing had. Suddenly the "old" method looks worse than before. Better keep buying the new hardware...

This was the point of the tech in the first place. To make making assets and lighting cheaper by masking it with raytracing and masking raytracing artifacts with DLSS. But games still take 7 years to be made and cost 70 dollars digitally.

>>737109941
PS3 is not really a good comparison because almost every game ran worse than on 360. Not like the 360 was perfect but still.

>>737113834
>Gayme sponsored by nGreedia
>Bundled with GPUs and Laptops
>It doesn't look good or run well without the newest features
Nothing to see here, move along citizen.

>>737101804
>2026.4
>not 5x series
ngmi

>>737081405
yeah so just enable pathtracing? its looks great and i don't know why you wouldn't

btw hey if you're poor don't talk to me, also accept your visual downgrade