star trek is for communists

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So anyway I've been playing Star Trek 25th Anniversary recently and even though it's quite enjoyable it absolutely suffers from some old adventure game interface fuckery. To stop myself going crazy I'll bring up a walkthrough after I've spent 15-20 minutes with no progress whatsoever and the first thing blocking me was the distinction of you as the player playing Kirk clicking use on an object and you as the player clicking on Kirk and using Kirk on object which is the kind of shit why I'll readily bring up walkthroughs. Other than that bitching, very good. I might have to go straight into Judgment Rites after this

PS: Oh yeah, I swear the ship combat feels even jankier than Wing Commander 1 but honestly I haven't replayed that in decades so that might not be right. I actually like the look of the bridge and ship sequences a lot though. The ground art's fine but the ship and space feels great for TOS

PPS: I am almost 100% certain the game's lack of a journal so you can just save your game after getting a briefing and then completely forget where the fuck you're supposed to go or what you're doing is PROBABLY why I never beat it back in the day. I vaguely remember ending up with a fucked save because of some missed notes

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But yeah, like I was saying, I haven't played STO in a long time. I think I got a lifetime sub back in like 2009? I played it pretty consistently until the Romulans came out then got burned out on daily missions for rep. It's a pretty fun game though I wouldn't take it's end game seriously. It's good for playing with a friend or solo and rping as a Starfleet captain.

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>>737084251
That 60,000 worth of zens you got there. People will kill for that much zen. Anyways, that fine that you can take a break and you can always come back at any time. If you do decide to comeback for the story, the storyline between New Romulus to the final chapter of the Gamma Quadrant (Home) is pretty okay. I personally love the New Frontier arc since you're playing Mentor for a new space race that just discovering space travel.

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>>737084554
I'm finally getting around to beating BG3 right now, but I think STO is the next on my list. I probably won't get the noble, but as consolation I have always captained a noble class assault cruiser.

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>>737084726
Actually, nevermind. They changed my ship I have had for years to look like this new monstrosity. I could not be more disappointed.

>>737082669
I dont think I will. I've used my tholian tarantula since I got it and I probably wont change that before end of service

>>737085180
Did you check with the ship changer and try kitbashing again?

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>>737085250
Yes. My original wasn't a kit bash. It was just a variant sovereign that was called Noble. They took that out completely and force changed my ship to this garbage.

>>737085392
RIP

>>737085392
Didn't know they removed ships, that's weird

>>737085392
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/1sasii8/deca_please_leave_the_older_sovereign_skins_in/
Yeah youre not the only one that hate this

>city of heros reskin
Hard
Pass

>>737082669
Is this the go-to mmo for sci-fi connissuers?

>>737083116
>falseflagging troon doesn't know who Gene Roddenberry is
When you aren't falseflagging, you're calling him a nazi chud.

>>737088547
Naw. Its mostly those that either like ship porn or you're a +40 year old trekkie. SWG (private servers), SWTOR, and EvE also exist.

>>737082669
the event ends next month

>>737088896
May 7 at maint, which is 20 days from now. It takes 20 days of daily to get it for free.

>>737088846
Well I enjoyed some of the episodes I saw a while ago and already played SWTOR so it looks like a toss up between this and EvE then.

>>737089267
I have zero experience with EvE. For STO, you just make a captain and the story plays off like that of a star trek episode. There are ground mission, which is bare boned to this day, but you could have up to 4 follower npcs with you in those story mission to support you via pew pew. Then there is space mission, which is flying a ship and kill shit in space. Its also fucking whale tier when it comes to getting the best stuff for the game. like 30 dollars just to get one Ship that might have something useful for your character. Most F2P players just do the annual campign, which is doing many events throughout the year, just so you could get 2 cash shop ship, one promo ship, and lobi crystal that should net you 1 ship or anything in the shop, for free if you bother doing this YEAR long event. Just play STO for the story, and events, and try not to in too deep into endgame.

>>737089267
>>737089639
Also I suggest making a thread about EvE and just ask any anon if they play it. You might lean more towards that than STO.

>>737089267
like the other dude said you play it like a Star Trek episode; you would benefit greatly from having watched a large chunk of pre-Kurtzman Trek as there are many references to events including ships, characters, species, existing events in the series and other callbacks but you don't need explicit knowledge of the series and most of it can be gleaned from playing as the game will usually offer enough storytelling or background through additional conversation options to get you through. It's a lot more arcade-y than EvE and even offers plug-and-play support with most controllers and has a dedicated 'third person shooter' mode that can be toggled with one key press.

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>>737082669
>Still no good Star Trek games after 40 years

>>737083116
communism would be a perfectly good system in post-scarcity

>>737083116
Never. Star trek must not be allowed to be taken over by the fucking commies.

>>737090447
what about elite force 2?

>>737090686
That was awful, at least the first one had a decent premise of them being on Voyager in the Delta Quad where the Elite Force was needed, the sequel made no sense

>>737090548
Communism is never a good system ever.

>>737083116
>>737090548
Post-scarcity democratic socialism is not marxist communism, you braindead niggers
The Federation is neither stateless nor classless, the only significant aspect is that private property has become virtually obsolete given the existence of replicators and near-limitless energy reserves thanks to antimatter reactors

>>737090639
Is there more to this scene or is it a throwaway line

>>737090447
space crew

>>737090749
picard retconned that you're allowed to be mad at people for owning villas apparently

>>737090806
What?
Doesn't his family own a huge vineyard in provence?
wait... I forgot... oh no

>>737090835
someone tells picard off because his family owns a vineyard, because the writers forgot star trek is a post scarcity universe

>>737090776
The episode of based around the Benkarans actually being discriminated against, so while the webm is funny on its own, if you actually add in the context of the episode, it's wrong and right wingers take a big L every time they use it unironically

>>737090806
Anything labeled 'Star Trek' made during or after 2009 is hot garbage that contributes absolutely fucking nothing to the franchise except for making Gene Roddenberry spin in his grave

>>737090895
strange new worlds is ok because some % of the episodes are villain of the week

>>737090885
did the writers forget it burnt down and his family died in it?

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>Game features a story that changes based on your choices

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>>737090895
Lower Deck is made by Trekkie fags and Prodigy is an extension of Janeway mentoring new cadets into great officers.

>>737091046
>free refills
Can someone explain to me the economics of free refills in a universe where you can just use a replicator to get any drink you want. Don't give me that federation credit shite

>>737091136
Deep Space 9 isn't 100% FED, its far off into the other side of the galaxy, and other alien culture still use monetary exchange for their trade. Quark's alien race is nothing BUT business and making tons of money.

>>737091241
Then I will say good day, go to my quarters and use my FREE replicator

>>737091284
enjoy your crap tasting rearranged atom coffee subsitute.

>>737091284
Or you could just stay in Earth and stay in paradise forever. Then you might get bored and join Star Fleet or some colony because you're that bored.

>>737091336
I will, none of that foreign muck

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Based Miles

>>737091576
>many episodes later
>the female of that people has a giant hard on for him just because they had an disagreement

>flying lollipops
fed ships are boring

>>737091046
First - Didn't that cup come out of a replicator as an ad to begin with?
Second - Characters are shown to value real food when it's available (think Riker cooking those eggs). The non-perfect/non-uniformity of non replicated food must be sought after.

>>737092029
>First - Didn't that cup come out of a replicator as an ad to begin with?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg8o__6bEEY
Yes

>Second - Characters are shown to value real food when it's available (think Riker cooking those eggs). The non-perfect/non-uniformity of non replicated food must be sought after.
Some people feel like they can taste the different and why Sisko's restaurant is still in business.

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>>737091910
Good thing there are tons of ships that aren't lollipops.

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>>737092382
God that CG is rough even for the time, what really gets me is the explosion render they use, they couldn't even be bothered masking it behind the building in front

>>737092382
what the fuck is this
was this from one of the TNG movies?

>>737092382
This and that DS9 episode really cemented the whole Temporal part of the series.

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>>737092737
It's from Enterprise season 4, they end up going back to Earth WW2 but the Nazis are winning the war with alien help

>>737092382
Some day I'll actually sit down and watch Enterprise

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>>737085392

>>737092382
>>737092832
Temporal Cold War was a mistake. The Xindi and Suliban should've been manipulated by Romulans instead of time travelers. Perfect setup for the Earth-Romulan War.

>>737094851
go do it anon

>>737094851
Why? Are you a faggot?

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>>737090776
>>737090890
this is the episode where the Benkaran takes advantage of Neelix and begs him to let him send a final message to his family when in reality it's a coded message to their dirty thieving Benkaran brethren that allows them to attack and momentarily disable Voyager. Then the poor, sweet Benkaran Engineer-in-Training that tricked Neelix takes the Warden of their escort detail hostage. It's irony, because the other dude who blatantly killed people in cold blood and felt nothing because of an issue with his brain ended up getting healed by Borg nanoprobes is the one who steps in to save the day. He expresses remorse for his actions and even apologizes to his victims' family but is still sentenced to die and being transported to his ultimate fate courtesy of Voyager by the end of the episode.

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>>737086897
They don't. They remaster them, removing the old models in the process. Pic related is a comparison of the original and remastered ShiKahr class ship. Originally designed as a "modern" Starfleet ship that entered service around the time STO takes place, it was reimagined into a ship from TNG's era.
They usually do this when they release a new variant of the ship, but not always. Sometimes they just want to remove an old design they feel is too ugly and not up to the current standard and look of the rest of the game.
In the Noble's case, it got an upgraded version in the current event, that upgraded version has a "rollbar" that bridges the nacelles. You can see it in OP's image.

>>737082669
you can always buy it out for like 60 bucks. then you get tons of dil as well. dont think the ship is good enough for that though

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>>737091046
>One Raktajino please

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>>737098639
Not him but I prefer if they kept the old. Would have love it if they just release the old version of the Typhoon since it was made with war in mind.

>>737098703
>buy out
Lol. Unless its the Pahvan set or the vovin from two years ago, or you're desperately need to buy out the final points for the annual campaign event, buying it out is just whale tier.

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>>737082669
didn't think I'd live to see an STO thread ever again

Come to Quark's
Quark's is fun
Go there now
DON'T WALK, RUN!

>>737098909
I wonder if you can still jump through that window in the mission and run around in space with Chekov and Scotty

>>737098903
I buy out when its lobi. no other use for the stuff and it translates into tons of dil

>>737098954
you can

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>>737098909
STOfags want an aggressive Sovereign-class, so I have to post this and remind them there is a "free" one right now if you do the rocket building event.

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>>737098954
quality mission

how p2w is it
the ui looks horrible
hows the combat

>>737099004
>it translates into tons of dil
how so?

>>737099298
>how p2w is it
A fuckton. you either spend an entire year doing annual event that will get you 3 meta tier ship, do the klingon recruitment event that happen once a year for the Withering Barrage, and pray the event ship in summer and christmas has meta trait/console, or just spend thousands of $$$. Most players just do story and event and that it.

>>737099004
Not getting a lobi ship, sell it, buy up contraband, and go full alt > convert contraband to dil on each alt?

>>737099298
>hows the combat
If it's anything like it was 15 years ago when I played; the space combat is bretty okay.
The ground combat is a fucking travesty and is to be speedran through.

>>737099432
>If it's anything like it was 15 years ago
lol
lmao even

>>737099810
I have a hard time believing they made that slogfest on the ground entertaining.
MAybe they made the space combat just as bad, but why would you destroy the only enjoyable thing in the game besides the setting?

>>737099432
>If it's anything like it was 15 years ago when I played; the space combat is bretty okay.
this is ISE in your era
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zofKh_Uvr7M

this is ISE in current era
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT9CYITDvH8

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>>737100018
Christ that looks obnoxious.
How the fuck do you power creep a game about space ships to that extent.

Is the ground combat your character having a seizure and 40 dudes instantly explode too?

>>737082669
I've never played this game before. Brand new and I just finished downloading the game, is it possible for me to grind this ship out in time or is it more for already established players?

>>737098639
Alright the old one looks busy as fuck but it's unique, the new one unironically got the fucking sharpie marker nacelles, that's just cruel

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>>737100118
Content difficulty is a decade behind. Ships, traits, and consoles aren't. Even the most basic stuff or set up (Isomag or locators with your favorite damage type and beam/cannon) trivialize those content. People can run their waifu ship and run it just fine in any content. Event TFO are stuck in normal difficulty and that is what 99% of the playerbase are dealing with. the 1% are the minmaxers that you see in the second link that does Elite content for fun.

>>737100118
>Is the ground combat your character having a seizure and 40 dudes instantly explode too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT6Z-rMgOzg
skip to 18:15 for the action

>>737100118
>Is the ground combat your character having a seizure and 40 dudes instantly explode too?
Yes. Kit spam is the way to go in ground content.

>>737100171
should be. just level till you can do the event model rocket launch tfo, and simply do that once a day (or precisely every 20 hours).

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>>737100171
Get to level 10 or 11 as soon as possible. Open the journla or whatever, hit the events tab, and hit Model Rocket Launch TFO Join TFO. Its 20 days starting now.

>>737090895
UnTrek. AntiTrek it is called.

>>737091046
No it isn't you degenerate lying psychopath. Lower derps is clearly made by people who hate and despise trek.