Friendship, or something

>>737085657
That you can do a 180 to your entire personality out of nowhere when you start simping for some pussy

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That you can't change fate, and every fucked up shit in your life might be your fault.

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>>737085657
>He didn't play it when he was 12

>>737085657
Quistis and the atmosphere

>>737085657
To act as a vehicle for one of the best FF soundtracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj_MqRAA8es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1qVczfirxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYpHS6ffvVc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5bRMje6V9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5bRMje6V9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwmTA_TmaxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaNqpBAy54o

>>737087346
The OST is GOATed
The story on the other hand....

>>737087407
Its out there but I enjoyed it, mostly all the characters besides Squall and Rinoa.

>>737085657
To be the best FF game.

>>737085657
for squaresoft to flex their grafix

whatever

>>737087407
>you can't criticize the story without ff8 cultists just saying that "you didn't understand it"

>>737087346
I'm glad you said "one of" because 10 clearly has the best soundtrack

>>737085657
A fun adventure with science and magic :)

>>737085657
>>737087346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa5gcYA8xf8

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>>737085657
To create an underrated cult classic, I presume.
https://youtu.be/0oH5dksLgv8

Kingdom Heart is shit game
Sora fandom is even shit

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>>737085657
To max your stats without fighting

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>>737085657
To give us the most avant-garde experimental kino FF experience and then never approach anything as fun or interesting ever again

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>>737090758
>lvl 100
what a noob

>>737085657
>>>/vr/12512741

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>>737087346
FF8 is easy top 5 FF OST of all time. Fishermans Horizon is a masterpiece. Laguna also Chad asf.

There are so many complex gameplay mechanics under the hood of this game that is hilarious to think about it.

>>737095363
True, but it's best to play the game blind the 1st time. Using a guide and the game is hilariously easy to break.

>>737090758
Lvling up in 8?
Big mistake

>>737090758
Enjoy Omega Weapon!

>>737085657
Fun

>>737095567
I agree, but still. Even the fact that you're able to break the game in several ways is hilarious and ironic when you take into account complex shit like each character having a different set of stats when equipped with same Guardian Force, that goes to show that the devs wanted to show that is a combability mechanic going on with characters and the GFs

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>>737085657
being the best FF and one of the best JRPGs.

>>737085657
The point was to make a good enough game that faggots like you would still want to talk about it 27 years later even if you didn't like it. Iconic.

>>737085657
I beat FF8 recently and I didn't hate it like I was expecting to, but I didn't love it either. I think one of the major things that annoys me is Squall's character and the Rinoa romance. He starts out interesting with his brooding, so you think "What's up with this guy?", but then by like Disc 3 he's going full on simp for Rinoa and now he wants to love? It just seemed out of left field.

>>737085657
I got 99 problems and a bitch is all of them

>>737090982
>>737095829
Is this bait? Levels literally dont matter if you already have max stats

>>737096343
It felt a bit abrupt, but even in his head he didn’t completely show his hand. His reactions to the Missile Base group surviving a bit before was a very clear example of how much he cared for the others. He was just confronted with losing someone who started to feel dear to him again. Of course, it feels a bit undercut because just a bit prior, he’s shown to disapprove about how everyone seems to be trying to push him and Rinoa together. Definitely something that could be improved.

>>737095363
Like what?

>>737096343
Squall felt abandoned as a child when Ellone was taken. He constructed this non-caring persona front which gave him permission to not give a fuck and not get attached. During the game he comes in terms he didnt want to be excluded. He wanted to be included but was afraid it would be taken away from him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulIOrQasR18 It's like the I Don't Give a Fuck only to be not giving fuck so much that he realizes he actually gives a fuck so much

>>737085657
early alzheimer's awareness.

>>737090053
lmao, absolute retard. 8's ost shits on 10's to the point of hilarity. not comparable

>>737087346
solid choices. the SeeD one stirred something in me just now, hadn't heard it in a while. blue fields was always one of my favorites as well

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Someone explain this page from the Ultimania book written by Nojima and translated by Gemini.

>>737088429
This is my problem with the story. You have a likable cast of characters that just gets sidelined for the two least likable fucks in the cast. The general plot can be retarded if you have good and fun characters, but they constantly just get sidelined for nonsense

>>737095363
My problem becomes that all these mechanics are basically unnecessary. The game is absolutely piss easy with the most basic of basic junctioning, not even counting sleep weapons, tornado junctioning, and other retarded shit. It has a lot of interesting mechanics layered onto each other without anything to actually put these mechanics to the test. Even shit like Omega is just made to be cheesed

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>>737098502
Here's the original page for those that wishes to translate it themselves.

>>737098605
This has been the case for every FF though, so it's a bit unfair to single out FF8. FFX is the gold standard of challenging endgame content, but it's basically 100% puzzle fights at the top end. FF7's materia system is also incredibly complex and you can do some crazy stuff with it, but the big secret bosses are best cheesed with mime spam. These games were never good at really taking their exploitable systems through its paces.

>>737085657
I swear they set out to make the worst cast of any JRPG ever as a joke. It's unreal how awful the characters of this game are.

>>737096517
It's a bit pointless to grind up to 100 if you're statmaxxing

>>737098780
Nta but enemies lvl with you so you have stronger enemies to have fun with

>>737098780
>Maxxing
>But dont max out your level
????

Level scaling is the most retarded and counter intuitive RPG mechanic known to man and any game that uses it is objectively bad by default.

The way they deal with time travel elements is actually genius. Intellectually unique, brilliant and very realistic. In the end you find out Squall was basically the progenitor of SeeD with his warnings to young Edea, who cultivated the entire scenario for the Sorcress’ demise. They did such a good job of giving the world realistic traits—the other characters can hear Squall’s thought by the way, they indirectly reference this several times. It has writing on par with classical literature that took decades to produce—Shakespeare even, and it was produced in… one or two years. An absolute monument to Japan as a media powerhouse, in my chud opinion.

>>737099090
Wrong. It's fun. Also I don't know if you noticed but higher lvl enemies have stronger spells and better steals and drops.

In GF menu, press Abilities. You can now see you can decide what abilities the GF learn and in which order. You can teach them the Refine abilities from the start.

Zell has never ending 3 moves combo: O X, Up Down, Left Left O that can be started at any point and the next prompt will always have the following move. When you know what you can do, you can input the moves without actually waiting for the prompt window to fully open

Now go play the game again with this new information.

>>737099196
>here's this information you didn't know
>*most basic shit anyone who has played the game knows*
Thanks dumbass. Also no level scaling is objectively bad because it removes any and all pacing from the game and is a lazy cop out sollution for incompetent devs who don't know how to properly balance a game and is the singular reason why 8 is up there with XV as one of the worst games in the series.

>>737099274
>*most basic shit anyone who has played the game knows*

Nope, lot of anons in FF8 threads reveal they had no idea about these things and it's clear you didn't either. Now go play the game the correct way and refrain from posting until you done.

>>737099324
Holy mother of cope.

>>737099196
>>737099324
>reddit spacing
didn't read

Name a more insecure fanbase in FF than 8fags. You can't.

My biggest issue with 8 is how often the game forces you to rearrange your junctions and magic onto other characters cause the game mixes up your party constantly.

>>737099601
It’s one of the few that lets you adjust nonmembers equips on the fly though

>>737099601
Mate. In the switch menu you can just trade the junctions and spell libraries.

The same thing is in FF7 Materia menu.

Lot of anons missed them

>>737099274
Your comment on >>737099601 ?

>>737099656
>>737099659
I know you can cut and paste onto other characters at any time you dumb fucks that doesn't change my point.

>>737099719
?

You said you needed to rearrange them?>>737099601

>>737099698
My comment is that you're an insecure pussy and need to kill yourself

>>737099763
You should play FF8 again with the things you learned today

>>737099802
I have learnt nothing, but you need to learn that people can disagree with you and it's not just because they don't know things. 8 just sucks. Either cope with that fact or kill yourself cause you're very clearly not emotionally equipped to deal with that reality.

>>737099843
>8 just sucks
Nope, it's easy to pick up and replay, just like FF5. It's one of my most replayed FFs.

>>737099196
He's right though. The issue with level scaling is it actively disincentivizes you from actually playing the game since you'll be relatively stronger compared to the enemies you encounter if you don't do combat as much as humanly possible and keeping your enemy low or doing combat but carding literally everything you can. You can chose to ignore that debuff cause the game isn't that hard but it doesn't change the fact that level scaling is a counter intuitive mechanic.

This game is unironically more fun if you spam limit breaks. Don't even need to Junction, just spam Squall/Zell's limit break. The only battles that need strategy is Omega/Ultima Weapon and those are optional.

>>737100068
>The only battles that need strategy is Omega/Ultima Weapon
I'm sorry, can't hear you over the sound of 100 Heroes and 10 Holy Wars Laguna and Gilgamesh cards refine to

>didn't gain EXP
>gained 6 AP
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz great game FFfags

>>737101845
What's your favorite game?

>>737101889
6

>>737101908
Mine is FF7. Then followed by FF5, FF8 and FF10. 6 and 9 are good but they are just not as good as the better ones.

>>737102052
If 8 had a good story or characters I would lean it more towards 7 and 10 as one of the better games in the series despite it's questionable to downright bad gameplay decisions but it's story and characters are almost as awful as 13 so it remains in the lower half of FF games for me. I would put basically every single other game from 1 to 10 above 8.

>>737101889
Sick em

You know the people who have lost their whole lives demanding that the entire world apologise and admit FFVIII, XIII or even XV were good? And do so every day? VIIR fans are going to end up the same way. They can't just enjoy it, they spend every waking moment upset that other people don't like it and will never ever be at peace.

>>737102419
why is this phenomenon so common in the ff fanbase? fallout is the only other one i can think of that does this, but even then its not quite as bad

>>737102419
It's healthy to post about games you like. Dedicating your days to games you dislike is questionable.

>>737085657
Skipping all of the random battles, playing triple triad, and lamenting the mandatory worst girl romance.

>>737102490
Have you ever spent over an hour posting about something you don't like?

Is 9 good? I remember being put off when I found out you had to get to the end of the game in like 10 hours or something to get the best weapon and just thought that sounds like a game full of obtuse nonsensical dog shit design choices that I wouldn't want to play. X was already dog shit enough with the lightning dodge minigame thing and blitzball.

>>737102724
I ragebaited the FF7R schizo Jimbo to admitting he's a virgin.

>>737085657
To give babby me a waifu

>>737102937
Sounds like a yes to me. I think you spend a lot more time posting about what you don't like than about what you like. But you have several 4chan enemies who require constant callouts, so it's understandable.

>>737102896
>Is 9 good? I remember being put off when I found out you had to get to the end of the game in like 10 hours or something to get the best weapon

It's Excalibur 2 for Steiner you get for getting to the end the fast. It's a non-issue since you don't actually need it. It's just a reward if you want to try replay the game fast.

FF9 is comfy and I can recommend it but do notice if you playing the og on og hardware, the random battles take 15 seconds to load and start and the battle animation also have lot bigger delay than in FF7 and FF8. So if you intend to play it, play Remaster/PC just to speed up the battle. And don't worry about autistic things like Exalibur.

What I recommend is never selling any of your old equipment because later in the game you need some in synthesis and you might have locked yourself out from it because the shops stop selling old stuff.

Also don't try to steal the 1/256 chance things like the flute from Hill Gigas

>>737103036
Ok, I hope you get to lose your virginity at some point! :)

>>737103091
If me making fun of the sad reality of your life doesnt bother you, why would your lie about me bother me? This really makes no sense but if its the best youve got after all this time... go for it.

>>737103204
Who are you?

>>737103437
One of the many people juju would rather spend hours screaming about than talking about something he likes

>>737103509
Why are you letting him get under your skin?

>>737103586
Don't worry, I'm not. Why do you think I don't even try to hide? The exact same post sets him off for hours every time. He really hates seeing the slapfight tweet being made fun of. I still don't know why. But I take great pleasure in his hours upon hours of "exposes" getting him nowhere. He's never convinced a single other person to care even after all this work. I like that he cares so much when everyone else cares so little.

>>737103712
You seem to talk about him a lot

>>737103779
I assure you, he talks about me a lot more. But I have a feeling you won't be saying anything critical of that.

>>737103835
Aight. Keep up the good fight! You will eventually defeat him

>>737103949
You should ask him why I get under his skin too. It's still a mystery why a ryona fan would be so mad about a tweet hoping the tifa scarlet slapfight gets cut being made fun of.

>>737085657
to let Nobuo Uematsu create his magnum opus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFjHWw_w91Q

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>>737103712
>Don't worry, I'm not. Why do you think I don't even try to hide? The exact same post sets him off for hours every time. He really hates seeing the slapfight tweet being made fun of. I still don't know why. But I take great pleasure in his hours upon hours of "exposes" getting him nowhere. He's never convinced a single other person to care even after all this work. I like that he cares so much when everyone else cares so little.

>>737087008
Yeah, the game hit different when you experienced it in puberty.

>>737104580
Please don't disturb Jimmy as he's winning

>>737103509
Evidently true

>>737102419
I wasn't even aware there were 13fags, just that there are Lightning simps. 15fags is just Barry spamming.

>>737085657
To move you from a set piece to the next as soon as they could.

I mean that with all sincerity and vitriol. You can emotionally headcanon, that the game is psychological. And logically you can headcanon, that it's the darkest FF. FFVIII was the worst over four hours videogame that existed for nearly two decades.

>>737089893
>you can't criticize the story without ff8 cultists just saying that "you didn't understand it"

Because you objectively do not. You lack the semiotic literacy to parse anything beyond the surface-level environmentalism of FF7 or the current giga-slop "Remake" project which exists solely as high-fidelity gooner bait for the lobotomized. While you are drooling over Tifa’s updated poly count, FF8 is operating on a level of theatricality that makes the rest of the franchise look like a coloring book.

It is essentially a Luhrmann-esque fever dream wrapped in a Lynchian psychodrama. The narrative isn't "messy," it's a deliberate subversion of the monomyth. Kitase, Nojima and Nomura were clearly channeling a specific kind of late-90s existential dread where the Garden isn't just a school, it's a sterile, Jungian womb where child soldiers are incubated to facilitate the death of archetypal mother.

The "orphanage twist" that every room-temperature IQ on this board whines about is a brilliant piece of meta-commentary on the unreliability of memory and the trauma-induced erasure of the ego. It is a literal manifestation of the Jungian Shadow. You complain about the Time Compression because you want a linear, hand-holding experience like a toddler. Ultimecia isn't a "villain" in the conventional sense; she is the entropic conclusion of Squall’s own repressed nihilism. She is the lacuna at the heart of the dream.

Even Uematsu’s score is a masterclass in leitmotif and atmosphere that dunks on the over-produced orchestral sludge of the new games. Compare the haunting, minimalist pulse of "The Extreme" to the sensory-overload noise of the Rebirth soundtrack. One is art, the other is a product designed to keep the TikTok-brain engaged. You will never "get" FF8 because you are looking for a plot when you should be looking for a painting. Go back to your waifu simulators and leave the actual literature to the adults.

He's an angsty edge lord faggot but I still kinda like Squall. I like him for the same reason I like Cloud in that he's a human and more relatable protagonist.

I did the CC club quest but once I got to Disc 4 I just bumrushed Ultimecia and never even saw them.

>>737108339
Ragnarok, the space ship. Check wiki

>start playing for the first time last week
>enjoy the GF and junction system a lot but don't really get to do anything with them cause the game's so easy
>not liking the story or characters at all
>generally pretty negative on the game and considering dropping it
>get to disk 2
>game absolutely ramps up in quality and now I've having fun
Man FF8 leaves a genuinely awful first impression but it does get better thankfully.

>>737085657
FF8 is still one of my favourite FF worlds and I enjoy the modern cities. I just hate how the world seems so small. You can count the number of cities on one hand and theres only like 3 schools in the whole world.

>>737109692
Centra ruins had Odin. After getting Odin, kill 20 tonberries. You can save in between. The 20th tonberry wll become Tonberry King. Once you beat it you get Tonberry GF

>>737095896
Well, well~

>>737085657
it was made for girls

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Laguna starts out as the quintessential, classic RPG protagonist. He is outgoing, wears his heart on his sleeve, dreams of being a journalist, and naturally draws a loyal party of friends around him without even trying. He is driven entirely by his passions.
But the universe brutally punishes him for it. His entire life story becomes a sequence of heartbreaking sacrifices for the "greater good":
Julia: He leaves his true love behind to fulfill his military deployment, leading to a permanent separation.
Raine and Ellone: He finds a quiet, happy family life in Winhill, but is forced to abandon it to rescue Ellone from Esthar.
Esthar: He successfully saves Ellone, but instead of returning to Raine (who dies giving birth to Squall), he accepts the mantle of President of Esthar to ensure Sorceress Adel remains sealed.
Laguna, the ultimate free-spirited romantic, ends up trapped in a sterile, futuristic room, carrying the weight of the entire world on his shoulders. He became the ultimate duty-bound soldier because he had no other choice.

Squall is a manufactured child-soldier. He is cold, analytical, rejects friendship, and explicitly states his desire to just be a tool for Garden. He actively builds emotional walls because he is terrified of the exact kind of loss that defined his father's life.
But as the game unfolds, Squall's trajectory completely abandons duty in favor of irrational, all-consuming love. As a SeeD, Squall's literal, sworn duty is to assassinate Sorceresses. Yet, when Rinoa inherits the powers of a Sorceress, he throws it out the window. He literally jumps into the vacuum of space to catch her, an action completely devoid of logic, military strategy, or duty.
When Esthar demands Rinoa be sealed away to protect the world (the exact same scenario Laguna faced with Adel), Squall initially complies out of duty. But he breaks. He storms the Sorceress Memorial, frees her, and decides that if the world wants to kill her, he will fight the entire world.

>>737110050
>Centra Ruins
I haven't got that far actually I've just finished the fishing village.

>>737112667
Aye, once you get to steer the Garden you can go there. It's optional dungeon. The boss in Balamb hotel has GF to draw. I hope you drew GF from NORG too.

>>737112738
Yeah I got Leviathan thankfully since they're in a set order and I don't have any gaps I don't think I've missed any yet. Thanks for the tip anon.

>>737112832
Yes, you have all available GFs in that case

>>737112869
Cool, thanks anon. I only just realized there's a cap on how much magic you can draw too, is there a good way to just get rid of your lower tier magic that you aren't using?

>>737113792
Yeah, give the low level spells to characters not in party in the magic menu. In the party switch menu you can also switch whole sets of junctions, commands and spell libraries between characters.

Also in case you didnt know, you can also go GF menu, choose Abilities and choose in which order the GFs learn which ability. If left default, they first learn useless GF HP ups and GF Mag ups. The best skills, refining skills are in the end. After learning them, it's good idea to learn available Junctions.

>>737114370
Thanks anon. Yeah just recently unlocked a STR gain on level up passive ability which I've got equiped on Squall.

>>737104580
>omae wa mou shindeiru

>>737102896
9 is fun. don't worry about the dumb sword at the end. it's not really worth getting unless you just want to do a 100% run or something.

i liked 9 and couldn't get through 10. they are quite different games. but, if you want to judge a game on one dumb weapon, by all means.

>>737085657
it's the ultimate taste test together with dark souls 2.

>>737116426
Play CV: Lords of Shadow

>>737117131
I did, my favorite 3 castlevanias are SotN, Aria of Sorrow and LoS.

>>737117339
NTA but based taste.

>>737090758
That isn't even the remaster, what is this hideous garbage?

>>737085947
>power of friendship
Yes.

>>737085657
Art

>>737095896
Big Confederate Cock

>>737085657
Squall died halfway through it.

FF8 feels like a partially unfinished game. It needed a few months to cook, one more major revision of the plot and characters, and a better translation of-course.

>>737123898
>>737090259
Which is canon.

Which is the bigger contrarian game, 8 or 9?

>>737127087
8 is cooler, 9 is comfier. Virgins like to say 9 is their favorite because they don't need no fast and flashy action and player agency. ADHD chads like 8 more because they can relate to Squall.