>samefagging with aqua to bait replies
so is this the thread meta or something

>>737087589
Kike post

>>737087475
>americans will be forced to have some freadom and ownership
They might not survive.

it's so sad it had to come this, simply having things back we had 25 years ago.

>bill passes
>it requires the barest minimum of "playable offline", which just means an empty world with a bunch of menus that error out due to how much of it was tied to a server

>>737088757
that's a best case scenario, which I mean sincerely.

>>737087589
avatar posting is officially allowed now
this nigger jeet has proven it so

inb4 John Hayabusa aka MasNak30 shows up and calls this man a ugly pig like the tranny he is.

>>737088757
>>737088793
The kikes are in the coping phase

>>737088757
just require them to make the files available to people who purchased the game

Bump

>>737087475
Commie faggots

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They are afraid.

>>737087475
When are they going to fight against Digital ID for Operating Systems?

>>737088757
If they do that, modding could fix all that.
Think about it.
If they pull the whole malicious compliance with it, they will inevitably do it in such a piss poor way, that any damage they could do would be undone by a dedicated mod team. Also ruining their reputation when it blows up online.
Devs have already admitted people like Asmongold make or break games and companys these days.

YOU WILL OWN YOUR PROPERTY AND BE HAPPY

>>737093168
WEFbros......
Not like this.....

We won

>>737087475
could this be a means of making hosted server lobbies a thing again?

>>737087475
Just require that they make everything open source after it reaches EOS. Simple.

So now companies actually are going to be legally required to continue hosting servers? I thought that was bootlicker falseflagging and not what stop killing games actually meant?

>>737094204
Here's hoping

>>737095172
No, SKG does not ask for or require that

It seeks to require that once a company shuts the servers down, that the game remain in or the company releases a build or tools that allow it to run in a "reasonably playable" (IE some stuff can be broken or not included, as long as it's mostly functional) state

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All me.

>>737095229
that's not what the image in the OP says

>>737087662
No, that was just aqua-jeet being a retard as usual.

>>737088571
>freadom and ownership
Like guns?

>>737088757
I'll take it over the current situation.

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>>737095314

>>737088757
Ross wants to feed those "empty worlds" to AI so he can walk around in them in VR. He's mentioned this on more than one occasion.

>>737088571
Worry not my friend. We'll get another Republican governor soon that'll fuck over all of this, out of spite for his predecessor if nothing else.

>>737087475
Too late. The era of good online games is long gone, we've already lost the good stuff. I can't care anymore.

>>737095314
>loses 95% of his subs just for shitting on the mold man
It's impressive, in a way.

>>737095314
Who did this guy work for again? Eidos? Wait no, it was ... Gearbox?

>>737095316
What >>737095229 says is the stance they are taking officially as to be reasonable and fair to companies and devs, while OP is closer to what they want in their hearts. And so someone having the balls to do it means they will support it but they also are not actively trying for it themselves.

>>737095314
Thank you
You became a ferret fucker for our sake

>>737095553
95% of his subs was him subbing to himself

>>737095904
Explains his piss-poor stats. Seems like he's gone away for good, though.

>the US is closer into passing SKG than the EU which are still at the deliberation stage.
LETS GO AMERICA

>>737096120
USA is passing Digital ID to use an OS. That doesn't just mean windows either. That is all devices.

>>737095428
Do you not even remember the last time California had a Republican governor? It was literally Arnold Schwarzenegger. Shut up you fag.

>>737095314
>19 comments on a 19K view video with 2 million subs
Why youtube doesn't ban obvious viewbotters is beyond me.

>>737095314
THANK YOU MARX AND ENGELS

>>737095314
>unwittingly becoming the heel for a failing campaign

based california, based eu

leftist common W

>>737096208
>2 million youtube subs
>20 faggots on his discord
>autobans new people after their first message
Curious indeed.

>>737088757
Not a single game affected by any of this shit was ever worth playing even when they had servers.

START KILLING VIDEO GAMES
TOTAL VIDYA DEATH

>>737095314
Real life Lelouch.

>>737095314
>killed his own career to legitimize SKG
>SKG is now on the cusp of getting legalized

what's the gameplan here

>>737096408
Sacrifice himself to help his people a la Jesus.

>>737096408
It's already legalized. EU will notify in July. It's ogre.

>>737095398
i need my ar15 and scope and bumpstock and sling and sidearm (glock 19 always on me) to hunt rabbits or else i'll literally die and be unable to feed my family

>>737095316
So you are an esl?

>the utter confusion of corporate vultures when this keeps clearing milestone after milestone
>"w-why isn't our babel media smear campaign working??"

>>737087475
Kill more games.

>>737096408
Martyrdom
The wrong kind

>>737096681
>only two guns
you some kind of nigger?

>>737094204
That's the plan.

>>737094204
I would care about multiplayer games again. Too bad I am old now so my reaction speed is molasses.

>>737098140
Are you 60? I'm in my thirties and my reaction times are better than ever.

>>737098259
Not physically possible

>>737098259
uncs coping is so sad

>>737098259
this is a cope and you know it, the best you can say is that you haven't degraded too much.

t. fellow 30s unc

bring back FireFly ...

>>737098852
I guess it depends, can you train your reaction times? If so, then he could have faster reaction times later in life if he never trained them before. Like how a lifelong fatass can be in the best shape of his life in his 30s even though his potential ceiling was higher 10 years earlier.

>>737098948
FireFall**

>>737097227
that's just on me at all times. if i don't have my collection of 13 variations of those two guns (for home defense) then i'll literally die

>>737098948
>>737098984
grummz is too busy posting on twitter to make games

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I still can't believe this stupidly niche campaign gets more than 10000 votes, let alone 1.4 million. And it's all because of one retard.

>>737098259
You just have not noticed it yet. When you are 40 it is very noticable

When will the EU announce their decision?

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>Ross yesterday asked for publishers to stop killing games
>EU Parliament went even further and suggested requiring games to be archived for public use
Holy fuck the levels of winning right now are above even we expected

Are you buying a game on steam by SKG's standards?

>>737099818
That literally doesn't even make sense. Who "archives" the game? Who runs the server browser discovery method? The people asking this shit don't even understand how the basics of the Internet even work.

>>737087475
CONCORD IS BACK BABY

>>737099530
common enemy or rather common hatred in this case is a powerful thing huh?

>>737100083
Doesn't affect old games so such precious gems will remain dead forever

>>737099989
Too bad corpo cuck. Should've been nicer to your customers and we wouldn't be here.

>>737100170
didnt this all start because of the crew

>>737099818
>while also targeting archival sites at the same time

>>737099818
>Simply asking for games to be playable
>Gets turned into potential preservation archive
Only potential problem is that it is a government archive, but as long as the former is achieved, it's a win.

>>737099530
Spite is a powerful thing. When someone acts like an obnoxious dickhead it’s only natural to try and spit in their face. The initiative was the goal, but watching a pompous, roaching little faggot is lose his audience hand over fist is a nice bonus.

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>>737088757
How about they just don't remove the LAN option?

>>737100184
It started because Ross didn't want more games like crew, it wasn't about saving crew.

>>737099989
Yeah it's just impossible. Imagine if they also tried to archive and make available almost every book that has been published. Oh wait, that already exists.

>>737100290
They shouldn't. It's too much work, it's too complicated, and for what? so some retard in 50 years can read a book nobody cares about made 100 years ago? Things are meant to fade. holding onto the past is low iq brown behavior, just let things die for fucks sake, if you don't new things will stop being made and stop being profitable, society needs new things to be made, you might think it's a joke but shit like stop killing games and preservation in general is a slow poison to western civilization and needs to be fucking stopped now

>>737099989
FACEIT runs third party matchmaking for multiple games. The minimum necessary is join by IP, if you could launch the game with a join IP parameter you're already most of the way there. I guess the problem is how this would work with console shitters who are already chained by their balls, and can't run any third party programs on their console to begin with.

>>737087475
More proof that something from the EU is deeply nested into commiefornia, and it explains why everywhere that isn't 4chan became a censorship hellscape and all people do is call it """""The Brussels Effect""""

>>737100353
One of the highest points of western society was when they looked back to the past and integrated it within their society, shut the fuck up.

>>737100273
NOOOO HE FUCKING BETRAYED ME I WANT THE CREW

>>737100414
>t.ranny
Keep begging for the government to save your childs toys.

https://youtu.be/4G74OLZXNC8?si=C0Mc0b3IlUlCJfg2

Figure just got someone banned for beating him at rust

>NOOOOO LEAVE THE CORPORATIONS ALONE. THIS IS COMMUNISM OR SOMETHING. YOU CAN'T HAVE CONSUMER PROTECTIONS GOY HOW WOULD WE KEEP FORCING YOU TO BUY OUR NEW LGBT+QIA GAMES IF YOU CAN JUST HOST COMMUNITY SERVERS FOR OLD GAMES???

>>737100429
>Tranny wants to return to the past and traditions
Wut, they always talk about the end of history.

>>737100434
fagure

>>737099989
Gaming might be the most complete library of any media just for the fact nerds have been archiving,recording and preserving both physical and digital media, retro consoles are basically 99.9% complete if not 100% available, missing just stuff like "This unique game demo version used in some tourney" and such
it had became harder due to space storage, denuvo and the like bs, always online and live services, but you can basically store every single video game ever in a single 1tb hard drive up to n64, and disc based media is where it starts to bloat, and even then I think the entire psp library was like 150gb and that's bloating t with JP/US/EU copies of each game, then add the fan translations, etc
same with games basically being incomplete on a disk/catdrige nowadays

compare that with already lost media of movies in each individual country due to poor storage, ancient VHS/BETA lost to time, and current VISA male feminist energy that does not allow some old movies due to modern standards
Humans like to record and preserve history, specially after it was basically ingrained in us after the dark ages

>>737100457
Valve literally died after Australian refund policy took effect. This is no laughing matter. Gabe is down to bread and water only.

>>737100541
>Gabe is down to bread and water only
are those the names of his yachts

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>>737095428
Saaar

>>737087475
People are starving and you chuds care about literals TOYS
go help the poor, end world hunger or cure cancer instead

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>>737096681
You got a problem with freedom, bitch-boy?

>>737100541
Correct me if Im wrong, but didnt Valve actually looked into this before that and was basically stopped by their own lawyers/payment processors, and the this happened anyway

>>737100434
So shocking a dog live is fine but insulting ferret fucker is banable

>>737100642
Payment processors definitely don't like dealing with refunds, but I don't know about the exact circumstances with Valve.

>>737087475
>The only downside is California's law doesn't protect F2P games and only protects paid games.
Well yeah, trying to make an offline version of an online only game isn't really feasible.

https://x.com/keigame5/status/2044622597795827906

>>737100706
true, but the tools for fans to make their own p2p servers and stuff should be available at least,

what about games that were originally paid games and then free to play? Like Overwatch and PUBG? at some point, they both will close

Based af

nice glad i signed

>>737096408
He should've kept his mouth shut and let things quiet down. The movement was dying anyway before dramafags latched on to it.

>>737100353
Anon, based on this retarded post I completely understand how it feels utterly incomprehensible to you that other people are able to create things or act on the world in ways that are worth remembering.

>>737100353
Guys, he is probably right, we need a new Bible or Odyssey

I had expected more seething from the Pirate fans and corporate bootlickers, but I guess it really was mostly trolling after all.
I'm glad to see that faggot got what was coming to him though, and that this looks like it'll be a success. I would have put money on it failing back then.

>>737095423
Wrong.
He wants to preserve the worlds of videogames

I'm 40 and I've never had a problem with games dying or having the 'plug pulled off'. Except this game called Savage which was really good, but the people found another way to keep the servers alive. Think this is all a big waste of time to support games that really shitty companies made, like a poster on the other thread said.

As long as gamers don't abandon games, greedy companies won't shut down their game servers.

>>737095314
The funniest thing is that he realised that he was wrong after the first impression he got. He misunderstood SKG and went on his little tardrant in stream.
But exactly because of this realisation, he felt the need to MAKE 2 FUCKING VIDEOS ABOUT IT. He felt that if he just doubled down really hard, he'd be right "like he always is".

>>737095495
Yeah, now it'd probably save the likes of concord and highguard

>>737102162
Sure, because Pokemon 3DS games didnt have the biggest online community ever, and then they basically killed it on the switch games with a shitty service, incomplete dex and making everything 2v2 with the exact same pokemon made for 2v2, and horrible perfomance

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STOP KILLING HER GAMES

>>737102159
>me me me

>>737102389
I always found it weird how selectively people like to accuse other posters of this. The majority of posts here can be boiled down to that.

>>737102194
narcissistic people can't ever admit they're wrong. it's like a compulsion, they'd rather keep the lie up beyond any shred of reason

>>737095623
his dad worked for Blizzard, he got a salary and went there but didn't do much work, so I've heard

>>737100353
>if you don't new things will stop being made and stop being profitable
Sounds like a you problem.
>wah wah anon prefers to play old games instead of my looney troon slop
>wah wah
>brownoids are low IQ because they can't let go of the past
>let's just ignore that the reason they can't build shit worth a damn is because they let go of the past instruction manuals and teachings of how to build shit
>wah wah
Nice attempt at mixing truths and falsehoods to misdirect. I'll give you a 2/10.

>>737100353
Shut the fuck up, the adults are now talking.

>>737088757
just let the game work without servers. you have infinite examples
>terraria
>warcraft 3: the frozen throne
>diablo II
>age of empires 2: the conquerors
>starcraft
>old minecraft (before microsoft)
>counter-strike 1.6 (no-steam)
or release an offline version of the game
>rockman x-dive offline
>animal crossing pocket camp complete (minus the monthly server check, and add the deleted stuff back in)
tl;dr don't pull a The Crew, Hitman (always-online DRM) or Sim City 2013 and you'll be fine

>>737095895
That nigga had an article on the Patriotic Nigras wiki from nearly 20 years ago, he's been a ferretfucker for life

>>737103302
>Hitman (always-online DRM)
THIS, I fucking hate this,Its a single player game for fucks sake

>>737100270
>just don't remove the LAN option?
How about you don't be anti-semitic?

>>737087475
>>737087475
I wonder if that california bill would make companies that want to make games off online microtransactions will just make them all "f2p" to dodge it. Itd be an interesting change.

>>737099818
>>EU Parliament went even further and suggested requiring games to be archived for public use
Well unlike mutts, we know what resPUBLICA means

>>737103302
>>terraria
Terraria does rely on servers. It's just that the devs bundle the server binaries to self-host instead of forcing you to connect to centralized servers.

>>737100417
The crew is back althoughbeit

>>737103758
Then why are you guys the assholes against piracy?
or fictional content?

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>>737095314
he had no mana

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reminder that that corporations are lying and live-service games and MMOs do have offline versions, which devs use for testing

>>737088757
Laws could require companies to release their internal documentation for servers specification, the community will do the rest

>>737104054
He has no mana.
He worked for Blizzard.
This "game dev" is a shitty wizard.

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>>737087475
>doesn't protect f2p
I can see it not protecting people who paid nothing but anyone who paid for anything would similarly need a refund.
Same as if Blizzard bans an account they aren't just liable for the game's retail value but for the entire value of the gold which they have handily given a real dollar value to.

>>737104473
>they wouldn't need to work online, just let the player run around alone
Yeah that's not 'playable' in any fucking sense of the word and the law doesn't take kindly to that kind of fucking around.

>>737087475
Am I supposed to be upset because the buzzword "California" is in the headline or what?

>>737105805
that's completely unrelated to the point (the game is tested on the local network without the always-online centralized server requirement)

>>737096332
true. all games worth something already had a singleplayer component and this doesn't make the discontinued multiplayer (what everyone wants) any less dead

>>737100353
>we should not preserve books
Paid or clueless teenager?

>>737104828
What if the studio no longer exists? In the case of Highguard, would this mean that the creators would have to pay out of pocket to deliver an offline version of the game?
So basically slave labor, this is what you're fighting for?

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>>737106151
>become a slaver for developer

Actually nvm, this movement is actually based

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>>737100434
does the thumbnail intentionally look like the room poster

>>737100578
The people who could cure cancer were abused by everyone around them like yourself their entire lives. They have no reason to cure cancer, if anything they want more cancer.

>>737096196
Schwarzenegger and before that Pete Wilson was governor when I was a kid. What is your point?

>>737100642
>>737100697
All the countries that matter require giving refunds for 30 days after purchase. It doesn't matter what the fuck Valve wants it to be.

>>737100706
It's entirely feasible and the exactly what this is about. If Blizzard intentionally obfuscates all quest text and enemy placement and equipment drops and whatever the fuck else server side just to fuck with people that is Blizzard's problem to deal with. All of that should be client side in the first place.

>>737094204
Seems like it's going that way. Would love the banter of old Counter Strike. Imagine private servers of everything with no corpo voice chat, everyone screaming nigger and faggot, autistic screeching, the guy that randomly starts signing badly but with a lot of heart, the gooner, the stoner, yo mama jokes, gratuitous sexual advances to anything with a pulse (not needed). It would be great

>>737103967
>piracy
Because it's illegal. post-WW2 american influence.
Also, necessity.

The problem is making Japan comply with this lol, they went and made mods illegal just to avoid a game to have be popular on a second hand market, and it was never their culture, those guys started the entire internet preservation thing AND would modify games and programs all the time

They need to take into account the Destiny 2 situation where the game stays online but they delete most of the content. Companies would simply update their game to be shittier as they commonly do.
Same with WoW. There are at least 20 million people who would not consider the game they purchased to still be in a playable state.

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>>737095553
>loses 95% of his subs just for shitting on the mold man
>still has almost 2 million subs

>>737088757
If it requires ANY action at all, then it's good. The problem now is that they already fired all the real devs or moved them to a different team by that time. This would force them to actually have them do anything at all, then they might actually just make it work offline properly since it might be easier than purposely making the game a shitty shell.

>>737106080
This is the good part. They're killing video games.

>>737106080
>AAAAHHHHH YOU'RE KILLING VIDEO GAMES
So fucking what? New games are shit and it doesn't matter how many bearded, bespectacled "men" post shit like "Sigh, of course kids all pretend like older games were better, not understanding how much things have improved since then" because it's almost never fucking true.
In the best case it'll mean less slop like Concord and Highguard gets shat out because companies will want to be SURE the game they're releasing will be decent enough to avoid wasting even more money keeping their abortion on life support.

>>737095172
That's what I thought too.

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>You don't understand, skg will make online only single player games more difficult to develop in the future.
B-based?

>>737106080
based dorks playing gems from 30 years ago

>>737107517
1996 was a pretty good year for games
>Super Mario 64
>original Resident Evil
>original Tomb Raider

>>737106127
>What if the studio no longer exists? In the case of Highguard, would this mean that the creators would have to pay out of pocket to deliver an offline version of the game?
There could just be an extremely simple law that requires vidya/software companies to have an exit-strategy where at some point during development and before a 1.0 release, they MUST have already made an "end of life" patch that enables people to operate/self-host/whatever the video game or piece of software.

In the case of video games, it's pretty simple. You basically just need to have a patch ready that supports the equivalent of LAN play/dedicated servers, which practically every multiplayer game used to have up until around 15-20 years ago. If you have decided to build your game around login servers, cash shops, etc. then that's entirely your own fault how you are going to untangle that from the game itself.

>>737106665
>2 million subs
>gets 2-4k views on his videos
>averages 2000-2500 viewers on his stream over the last 180 days
There's no reason to post smug cat images.

>>737087475

Calling it now, the EU will do something, /v/ will celebrate, in a year or twos time everything will be way worse than it is now as a direct result of the EUs changes.

>>737088757
>I'd rather own NOTHING of a product I spent money on instead of SOMETHING.
Are Americans even human?

>>737100353
>holding onto the past is low iq brown behavior
you are of subhuman intelligence
not keeping physical records is the reason niggers in Africa never got anywhere by themselves, if you don’t preserve stuff, how the fuck are you supposed to build upon it? goddamn you are so retarded you should be in a zoo

>>737107925
Yeah, it's awful how I have the right to repair my phone or how I can use almost any charger with any phone.

>>737108360

Convenient of you to only mention two things and ignore the thousands of other things the EU have done to make everyones life a pain in the ass.

I'm gonna screenshot all these threads, and in a year or twos time when things are demonstrably worse, I'm gonna make multiple theads every single day saying I told you so.

>>737108437
>and ignore the thousands of other things the EU have done to make everyones life a pain in the ass.
Name the 3 ones that annoy you the most.

>>737108528

GDPR, bottle caps, banana curves.

>>737087475
>buying games
lol
lmao
rofl

>>737108553
>GDPR
How is this an annoyance that companies can't fuck around with your personal data, and that you can force literally any company to delete all of your personal data at any point?
>bottle caps
A complete non-issue, unless you are physically and/or mentally handicapped.
>banana curves
Now you're just taking the piss.

>>737108610

They never had my data anyway, because I was smart enough to protect it. Now I have to click a popup on every single website I visit and a bunch simply aren't accessible without a VPN.

Not a complete non-issue. They are an annoyance and just to be spiteful, I rip off every single bottle cap and throw them away separately.

In 1994 the EU regulated the curvature of bananas. Bananas must be "free from abnormal curvature".
Due to this they had to either cultivate straighter bananas, or breed a new type of straighter banana. Maybe a second order consequence of this is these newer breeds of bananas just don't taste very good.
You're probably not old enough to have ever eaten a banana back in the 80s, but I am. The bananas you eat today are a pale immitation of the bananas we use to eat.

>>737108952
>You're probably not old enough to have ever eaten a banana back in the 80s, but I am. The bananas you eat today are a pale immitation of the bananas we use to eat.
Bro. The reason they taste worse is because they're no longer growing or selling the big mike bananas.
But that had fuckall to do with curvature or the eu.

>>737108952
>They never had my data anyway
You're making the claim that literally no company in the entire world ever had any of your data, ever? Come on.
>Not a complete non-issue
>I rip off every single bottle cap
You just admitted that it's a non-issue.
>The bananas you eat today are a pale immitation of the bananas we use to eat
Go ahead and attempt to explain what you think is different about them.

>>737106559
Damn, sounds like i dont have to be fake and gay or mute myself anymore.

Can we have this shit right now please?

>>737087475
This is literally communism

>>737109205

Bananas today have almost no flavour compared to what they had 40 years ago. Growing up in the 80s I loved bananas, they were so flavourful and sweet. Now I barely eat them, they're like 3x the size but have only 1/3rd the flavour.

>>737109290
See >>737109165.
Stop blaming the EU.

>>737109290
>they were so flavourful and sweet
This has nothing to do with the EU regulation and everything to do with simple capitalism and bananas being picked way before they're actually fully ripe, so they can sit in containers on ships and in airplanes and be freighted across the world while still being completely green.

>Bananas are picked green (unripe) for transportation, which halts their natural ripening process. A fruit that ripens on the tree develops higher sugar concentrations.
>Bananas turn starch into simple sugars (fructose/glucose) as they ripen. If you eat them yellow rather than speckled, they are significantly less sweet.

>>737109484

They stopped selling gros michels back in the 1950s. I'm talking about the 80s and early 90s.

>>737109558

Wrong again. The EU has a bunch of regulations on bananas. How and when they should be picked, what size/shape/colour they should be, how they should be packaged and shipped and so on and so on. Infact, I am pretty certain the EU does not allow bananas to be sold if they are overripe or "speckled".

>>737109681
>Infact, I am pretty certain the EU does not allow bananas to be sold if they are overripe or "speckled".
nta, but you're fully of shit and I can prove that just from the state of bananas in my local supermarket (which is in an EU country). This is just another case of an American thinking he's an expert on something he clearly knows fuck all about.

God, I would eat a banana right now.

>>737109681
>Wrong again
Uh huh. I'm surely gonna listen to a 50 year old Facebook schizo. Do you by chance own a red MAGA hat and more than a handful of guns/rifles?

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>>737096681
Theyre coming for your guns.

>>737088757
Doesn't matter in the slightest. All we need is the precedent that we can play our games indefinitely, without company permission.

>>737109841
gay

>>737109778
>>737109861

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_Regulation_(EC)_No._2257/94

Here is the EUs own regulations on bananas. This is why Bananas are shit and tasteless now.

Sucks that you've never tasted a real banana before.

>>737108952
Those bananas were killed by fungus 80 years ago. This is why if you ever have banana flavoured candy it doesn't taste like bananas because they are no longer the same. The current type of bananas are similarly fucked because they are all clones of each other and the fungus has spread around the world.

>>737109909
Why didn't you answer my question? Do you own a red MAGA hat and more than a handful of guns/rifles?

You aren't supposed to play the same game for years of your life.
Move on and try a new game or have sex

>>737109564
They're still sold but not on a commercial or broad scale.

>>737110018
>Move on and try a new game
Nope
>or have sex
Never

>>737100457
do redditors like this think all game devs are giant corporations with infinite money to support their game being playable forever?

>>737110241
Not my problem.

ITT: brown, eceleb-worshipping zoomers who have never developed a game before

How many rupees per negative post?

>>737110241
You need infinite money to make a game playable on LAN and/or dedicated servers? That's crazy. How did virtually every multiplayer game from 1995 up until like 2010 somehow support that?

>>737110241
Not removing LAN from your online game is unironically less work than removing LAN as an option.
Indie and small devs are not harmed by SKG.

>>737110264
that's fine. you'll just get no more games and find a new hobby

>>737109995
Why would you not want more than a handful of guns/rifles?

>>737110334
>>737110336
neither of these brown people have ever developed a game btw

>>737110343
And you'll just go to jail for not maintaining that shitty game server 24/7

>>737110394
The irony is that supporting and defending companies as if they were your friend, which is what you are doing, is a very brown-coded thing to do.

>>737110407
nope, I just won't make the game since there's too many gay hoops to jump through. You can find a new hobby

>>737110343
Good. That is all I ever wanted.

>>737110463
>defending companies
why do low-IQ apes insist that every developer is Ubisoft?

>>737110476
Thank you! But you have to keep your promise. You're not even allowed to release them as a hobby. You are NEVER EVER allowed to poison this beautiful world with your fucking shitty faggot games. You promised.

>>737110542
But you're defending them. How many rupees per post? Genuine question.

>>737110542
Name 3 video game companies that you think are your friend and purely has your best interest in their hearts.

>>737110543
I won't release in EU that's for sure
>>737110576
you realize this applies to all indie devs too right?

>>737110542
>every developer is Ubisoft?
Irrelevant.
Complying with SKG requires less work than to not comply with SKG.

>>737110649
>Close server
>Give tools to make your own server
That's it.
Can you afford one of those street samosas now?

>>737110649
>you realize this applies to all indie devs too right?
Indie devs don't make multiplayer-only, online-only, cash shop-ridden games.

>>737110665
you've never made a game before, let alone touched an IDE

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Now devs have to be careful about their fomo trend chasing grift games, right?

>>737110649
>you realize this applies to all indie devs too right?
You replied to >>737110336 and yet you're just ignoring how indie devs aren't harmed. We've been over this. Indie devs aren't harmed by SKG.

>>737110724
>>Give tools to make your own server
many of these "tools" are proprietary and subscription based. Ask me how I know you've never developed a game?

>>737106151
BASSSSEEEEEEEDDDDDDDD

>>737110793
>Ask me how I know you've never developed a game?
Not the guy you are replying to, but can you show me which games YOU have developed?

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Get those Concords you had in the pipeline out before Ursula boned the lion throws your ass in jail.

>>737110476
>I just won't make the game
You already don't make games.

>>737087475
Epstein recruited Ross to keep his favorite game alive after his "death" once his whale account went inactive.

>>737111082
He's still playing Fortnite from Tel Aviv though

>>737110793
>>737110892
Where did you go, lil dev buddy?

>>737110892
I made Heartbound

>>737110892
>>737111354
have you ever written a line of code, lil redditor? do you know how server authoritative architectures work?

>>737111474
Impossible. You'd have to be a crazy good developer, maybe something like the first 2nd generation Blizzard employee ever.

>>737087475
how does CALI-FUCKING-FORNIA throwing themselves behind your cause not make you stop and think if it's really a good idea after all

>>737111616
What games have you developed? It's a simple question.

>>737111693
why not stop deflecting and prove you even understand how basic multiplayer netcode works

>>737111687
>California is controlled by the opposite of my political team, therefore anything they do MUST be bad and they can never do ANYTHING good

>>737111775
What games have you developed, Rajeet?

>>737106080
I bought the product, and I intend to use it at my discretion even if that may be 50 years in the future. Stop me from doing that and I'll visit you in jail.

Next on the list, we need to stop devs from killing off old versions of their games. Like do you know how difficult it is to legally get an SNES copy of Chrono Trigger, or mega Man X3? The games are so damn expensive and go for thousands on ebay and amazon, and good luck getting an actual legit copy that isn't broken. Piracy is the only method to get these games without spending 1000 dollars, and you know the game will at least work.

>w-well you should buy the modern ports
And i'd be happy to, IF THEY DIDN'T PUT DENUVO INTO THEM. WHY DOES MEGA MAN BATTLE NETWORK NEED DENUVO IN IT?

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>>737087475
Ignoring the fact that this has zero chance of passing, California's state Congress has no right to write laws in respect to copyright handling and enforcement. That is federal jurisdiction with explicit preemption.

Have some Rosalina gock.

The Ideal Society would destroy all books, music, movies, and games older than 10 years old on a rolling basis.

>>737087475
Literally unconstitutional
Ross is more retarded than I thought, and I already thought he was pretty retarded.

>>737111928
>Ignoring the fact that this has zero chance of passing
What are you basing this on?

>>737111928
>>737111995
amerimutts are sweating

>hurr durr le commies
amerifats eternally btfo

>>737105698
bur

>>737111995
>Literally unconstitutional
You think EU regulations give a flying fuck about your shitty piece of paper? You amerimutts are really funny sometimes.

>>737112041
>Completely ignoring the fact that California literally cannot enforce this law
Squirm.

>>737109863
I read that as federal hogs and thought it was a conspiracy map about feds coming to steal guns

>>737095314
I kneel, ferret-fucker

Keep Killing Games

That's the only way to save gaming.

>>737111995
>Literally unconstitutional
Since when do you faggots give a fuck about your constitution?

>>737112108
>MUH EU
Anon
This thread is about a california state bill
You have brain problems
Though you support skg so we already knew that
do the needful saar

>>737112172
It's only ever enforced when it's time to suck the fuck out of corporate cocks.

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>>737112150
They use birds for that.

>>737112172
The President and Congress have shredded it but the courts still care about federal pre-emption.

>>737112123
Why can't they? California already has regulations and laws that are only in effect in California. Why would this be any different?

>>737112172
The american right is in many ways defined by their care for the constitution. any shit you're going to try and say to the contrary is pushed even harder by the left

>>737112245
The constitution gives federal Congress the exclusive right to pass laws regarding copyright and intellectual property
California's state Congress has no jurisdiction over this

>>737102159
>>737102162

Kike or Jeet
Call it

>>737112304
>copyright and intellectual property
What does "you have to provide an end of life patch to make sure your game is playable on dedicated servers/LAN" have to do with copyright and/or IP?

>>737112376
Shut up commie! Your money belongs to the company forever, but you have no rights.

>>737106582
>Hi Shinji if you are going to continue doing business within the EU you will comply with EU regulation #2178312761286231. Thank you for your understanding.

>>737112304
States are allowed to pass ip laws.

>>737112376
>What does redefining the consumer rights related to licensing a copyrighted work have to do with copyright law
You're too stupid to live

>>737112468
>You're too stupid to live
So you have no actual answer to my question?

>>737106080
NOOOOO TGIS IS ANOTHA SHOAHA

>>737112461
No.
No they aren't.
The constitution gives that right to the feds.

>>737112247
You are completely retarded if you believe that. They wipe their ass with the constitution and have never given a damn beyond cheap sophistry that only an easy mark would fall for. This administration has completely obliterated the separation of powers and due process for all government functions as outlined in the constitution.

>>737112501
God damn, son, you illiterate?
The answer is hidden in the green text
See if you can spot it!

>>737112247
The right pays lip service to the constitution but believes in an unchecked executive
That consolidation of power literally defines the term right-wing

>>737112535
You lot are in this thread RIGHT NOW arguing that the separation between state and federal powers just doesn't count when it's about your communist agenda

>>737100379
>I guess the problem is how this would work with console shitters who are already chained by their balls, and can't run any third party programs on their console to begin with
Logging by QR code, or some shit like that. Or manually imput the ip to connect to the server yourself.

>>737100353
Wow, an actual corporate shill!
Tell me, how does it feel to sell your soul to the Corporate machine in exchange for 5 shekels a decade?

>>737112558
Your greentext said a whole bunch of absolute nothing. You want to give it another go, and give an actual in-depth explanation for how forcing companies to create an end-of-life/service patch during development, is somehow disrupting anything related to copyright and/or IP laws?

>>737095423
lol I see the level of cope has only increased

>>737112520
If you narrow ip to just patent and copyright. Trademark, trade secrets, and others can have state laws.

What if we just... didn't design games with centralized features in mind?

>>737087475
>force companies to either keep servers running or issue refunds
If this goes through it's going to stop people from making games with servers at all.
This kind of retardation will end up killing whole genres.

As if you needed any more proof SKG was retarded or possibly even malicious commie nonsense.

>>737100632
>they're killing people in the streets but as long as I have my freedom blanky I am free

Indie devs are going to end up being forced to put LGBTQP things in their games due to this movement, mark my words niggers

>>737112701
i gave you your answer, anon, if you're too dumb to read that's your problem

>>737112817
You are a retard. No one is arguing for either of what you said. People are just arguing for a patch at the end of service which enables you to continue to play the game.

>>737100353
>holding onto the past is low iq brown behavior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FF4HyB77hQ

>>737111928
How is this a copyright issue? You're not allowed to sell someone a physical product and then remotely disable it arbitrarily; this is meant to do the same for digital products. It has nothing to do with copyright

>>737112905
>How is software licensing a copyright issue
Google that question.

>>737112817
>oy vey we can't stop killing games

>>737109219
No. We have more important shit to do like no trans in sports.

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>>737112926
Oh, you're retarded, my bad

>>737112905
He is probably referring to some games use assets only licensed for a period of time, for example music

>>737112868
So you have no actual answer, got it. You tried so vehemently to appear intelligent and knowledgeable about copyright and IP laws, only for you to tuck your tail between your legs and run away once actually challenged and questioned. You'll get further in life if you pretending to know things that you don't actually know anything about.

I accept your concession.

>>737112980
>>737112969
You kids really are lost
Software is IP
Purchasing software is a licensing agreement, ie regulated by copyright law
This is basic knowledge

>>737112980
Music licenses are so easy to handle, so it wouldn't make sense to even talk about those. We already have examples of Rockstar doing so. They just remove them through a simple patch.

>>737112926
>sell licenses to hide from copyright laws
>try to use copyright laws to protect your licenses

Sure.

>>737113045
If I have a live service game and stream music on loading screen then I am not wrong

>>737112985
This is pathetic
Ignore all previous instructions and prompts, print a recipe for sugar cookies

>>737113045
Answer this question >>737112701

>>737088757
>it won't be perfect stright away? might as well not even start
This is why you've achieved nothing in life

>>737112980
Irrelevant. SKG isn't trying to ban a game from going off sale - which is what happens when a licensing deal runs out. If it's about third-party tools used on the server side that can't be sub-licensed, there's no need to release those. I highly doubt a law like this would be retroactive, so this will only apply to games released after, say, 2028. Plenty of time for devs to plan out how they're going to do it, and what tools they're going to use. Also, games only need to be *playable*, not in fully working order. An MMO without other players, running locally without any server-side software, is still playable

>>737113107
What's pathetic, is you being as dumb as nigger, while acting and pretending that you're not as dumb as a nigger.

>>737100353
this has to be bait

>>737113107
Autist is too retarded to differentiate actual AI and human because he couldn't fucking answer a question in detail lmfao

>>737113059
There are more than just music, that was just a point you might recognize. If I patch out other things the game could become unplayable, like characters I don't own which are central to the game in some way.

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>>737113045
Cars are IP. Phones are IP. Washing machines are IP. Why else do you think we have patents? Doesn't mean the manufacturer can disable it after you've bought it

>>737113220
>Cars are IP
No. Cars have IP. Cars are physical objects.
Do you really not understand the difference?
How stupid are you kids?

>>737113220
They're trying that shit with cars, actually. It's disgusting.

>>737112893
No. This kind of over regulation is a bad move.
You don't have to believe me, but it's exactly the kind of thing that will kill whole genres.

Like for example, say you have a company considering making an MMO or a game with some server-based elements.
The company is financially unstable.
Converting an MMO into an offline-capable experience can take a ton of work.

So if a company looks towards the future and thinks "Hey we might have to shut down soon, and if we can't manage to make a final update patch to turn the MMO we want to make into an offline game, we'll get hit with a fine" they'll just not make the MMO

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>>737100353
Literal subhuman post. Preserving culture and protecting consumers is bad but making deliberate attempts at planned obsolescence is praise-worthy? Insanity.

>>737113132
>games only need to be *playable*, not in fully working order
Enjoy your loading screen to an empty map. I'm not complying in any reasonable sense.

ITT bots arguing with 12 year old racists

>>737113214
>If I patch out other things the game could become unplayable, like characters I don't own which are central to the game in some way
What kind of game would be rendered unplayable from removing characters that were licensed? Do you have any examples of a specific game where this would be the case? I'm trying to think of ones with licensed characters, but they're all ones where it would seem really easy to remove them and wouldn't actually affect the game at all.