They couldn't haven't gotten Chris Pratt or Henry Cavil to do this?

he looks normal to me
zero (0) fucks given

now go watch that video of stallman addressing congress

>>737088230
Those are fake gamers

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If the people working in the EU parliament will have their opinion swayed by the appearance of the person presenting it, then they were never going to agree with him anyway (because they're retarded).
Anyway, you're wrong and you'd know it if you actually watched the presentation. Basically every official agreed with him that the situation is fucked and they will be doing something about it. Some German who refused to speak english had some dumb shit to say but he seemed to be taken much less seriously than Ross.

>>737088143
He's there as a representative of "the people", so somewhat unpolished look should actually be to his benefit - makes his case feel more genuine. Concerned citizern, rather than professional lobbyist.

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>>737088143
/v/ telling others about hygiene is pretty rich

>>737088143
>comparing video games to books

Well. It's not a book. It's a game. And you buy it knowing it will not last forever.

>>737088143
His home has mold. Please understand.

>>737088143
If you're standing in a room before an assembly of any government body your outward appearance is nowhere near as disgusting as the inner corruption of those political leaders.

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>>737088230
They should have got Thugnificent for this.

Boy oh boy, I can't wait for the ep of Freemans Mind with Gordon talking to Parliament.

>>737090251
But Bazz's game is dead

>>737090871
Seems relevant then

>>737088143
>EU and California passing big consumer rights video game laws
I wonder what AAA game publishers will pivot to once the live service model dies out because of this

>>737088143
Kill games.

>>737088143
If Henry Cavill lent his star power to a European assembly meeting to try to save video games he would live forever in gamer Valhalla.

>>737091220
Subscriptions per individual game.

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>Please stop killing goyslop abysmal dogshit games made by cancer companies!!!!

is this for real? I thought you niggers were just joking.

>>737088143
Pirat please get off 4chan and take out the trash, this is your mother speaking.

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OPEN SOURCE YOUR ENTIRE BACKEND OF YOUR ONLINE GAME.

NOW.

>>737088143
Keep EU out of video games. Protect intellectual property rights.

>>737088143
the court finds this based on all counts

>>737088143
It was nice to see how courteous and supportive the Parliment members were to the SKG presenters in general.

>>737088143
what Israeli lobby do you work for?

>>737088143
We will own our games and be happy. You are going to lose Jews

>>737092274
You see, to preserve the good games we must preserve the bad ones too.

>>737088230
KOOPAS

>>737088143
You don't have to be mean to the guy to prove a point.

>>737088143
>this board is now dictating hygiene
Lol
Lmao even

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>>737093632
>implying /v/ made this (((thread)))
ho boy

>>737088143
God I hate this faggots voice
>let me put EXAGERRATION ON THE WORDS while sounding like I learned how to speak from a retard

the EU is a communist state by the way

laying the shilling on a bit too thick

>>737093849
It's always crying about communists, I've noticed

>>737093728
>everything is a conspiracy
You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded.

>>737090871
Yeah, Parliment would've prefered Gangstaliscious

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>>737088143
/v/ introduced me to Ross by calling him the most based man alive some 8 years ago
today I still thank that anon for letting me know that he exists.

>>737090251
>>737090871
>>737090986
kek

>>737093993
Yeah well you're supposed to hate him now because he's not based because he wants to do something

>>737092434
Retard

>>737094070
Sometimes I wonder if it's old Gamergate types mad that a Gamer™ actually successfully did a political move without having to sell his soul or turn into a chud or beg for a Youtuber to do his arguing for him

>>737088143
I think he looks dapper.

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>>737094230
Pic related

>>737094070
I am not going to let some tranny psyop change my opinion of him though

>>737092407
communism would be based if it did this instead of stealing farms and sending people to gulags

>>737094294
Was this guy ever into video games? I always pictured him as a capeshit guy.

>>737088143
Ross isn't a basedboy and I like that about him. Most non-vat-raised people are invisible these days, probably too freaked out by the modern world to want to speak out in it.

>>737094268
or diaper?

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>>737088143
What he wears isn't important, only his message.

>>737088143
I will die for Ross

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Corporate cocksuckers are at it again it seems

>>737094467
The word grifter gets massively overused, but it fits him perfectly

>>737088143
>repulsive jew trashing someone else for their looks
kek and lel

>>737094775
are you gonna pretend ross doesnt look borderline jewish in that pic

>>737094656
I've been following the recent slop drama WOOOAH BUDDY
However, I was never a fan of his despite being quite chudly myself. All the guys I liked got banned between 2020 and 2024, but now even American Krogan is back.

>>737088143
>nooo you have to go through the humiliation goyritual if you want to talk to your parliament overlords

>>737088143
he's just ugly, why do you care about it?

>>737092274
it will hurt the companies so it's a good thing

>>737094826
You need to adjust your early life detector because he looks like every other white guy in Alabama.

>>737092274
Waiting until something personally affects you is the wrong time to set up guardrails.

>>737091220
I expect something awful that looks better short term but worse long term
limited time modes already seem like a testing ground for what they could with live service games long term

>>737088143
you gotta admit he has main character aura. he isn't a background npc. if he were, he wouldn't have been able to accomplish this.

>>737088143
Yooooo, what up piratesoftware?! How you been since everyone found out you're a piece of shit?

>>737088143
He looks like a man i'd TRUST!

>>737088509
>somewhat unpolished
I think he's become quite polish.

Hearing him without the upbeat Game Dungeon voice is surreal.
I'm very glad he's made it, very obvious nerves aside but I wish he'd wash his hands clean of leading the movement and get back to making the MOVIE

>>737095093
What was the game for you?
Mine was Vermintide 2.

>>737094628
why he hates him so much, it came out of nowhere too.

I'm proud to have signed this. My calculation going in was always that this had a 30% at best chance of working, but that's absolutely worth trying out to me for the measly cost of one signature and some /v/ posts about it.

>>737088143
He's a big guy.

>>737088143
Der Mold

>>737088230
Stop sucking celebs dick, retard

>>737095801
I 100% would have signed on this too, but I'm American so my signature would be worthless.

I thought Ross presented good arguments.

>>737088369
>Some German who refused to speak english had some dumb shit to say
Axel Voss. Notorious for his contrarian takes over the years that to strengthen the EU, we should abolish much of consumer rights and privacy laws - as those laws are hamstringing Europe's industry in competing fairly with US companies. The topics he spoke about wrt SKG are exactly in line with such hot takes, once again. The guy is deluded and is advocating that Europe serves up its population to titans of industry on a silver platter, just to make a quick buck or two.

>>737088143
>NOOOO HE DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT SO PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE RIGHTS
Very talmudic of you, thanks OP.

>>737088143
He looks normal to me, and I've given military briefings

He looks like an art teacher

>>737088143
>No one's going to take SKG seriously after this.
Kek keep telling yourself that.

>>737088143
his hair is washed though? Are you retarded

>>737088369
>>737098296 (cont.)
Voss is also the rat that was the major player behind the infamous 'article 13' that made content upload monitoring & filtering on large online platforms an unavoidable thing to be able to continue to comply with legal standards. You have him to thank for that.

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You're welcome.

>>737098198
me too
the bottom line for me is that these games are made with everyone knowing and understanding that the servers are going to be switched off at some point - there really should be an expectation for them to have a contingency to allow players to continue to use their purchase after that
if they plan for it from the beginning, it's not going to add anything to the cost

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS, why is this thread still up?!

>>737088143
>>737088369
EU being the EU, he had them almost from the very start of his presentation.
All they needed to hear was "need regulation" rather than "remove regulation", and the EU bureaucrats started cumming in their pants right then and there, guaranteed.

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>>737088143
>As you can see on the slide
*smacks lips*
>The publisher sells a copy of a game
*smacks lips*
>The game is designed to connect to the publisher in order to work
*smacks lips*
It's so jarring to hear his ticks when usually answering questions or playing some game come out with a calm voice speaking on something very serious to him, it tickles me.
Bless you mold man, you're an inspiration to us all.

>>737098486
Thanks Maldivius. Couldn't have made it without your brainlet take.

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STOP
KILLING
GAMES

>>737088143
>SKG will never gets the signatures it needs
>the signatures are botted
>EU will ignore the petition
>EU will laugh them out of the room
>EU won't let them speak in front of the parliament
>Ross is a doo doo head who stinks
YOU ARE HERE
>EU will never propose a law for game preservation
>The EU game preservation law will not cascade into a general software ownership law
>EU won't enforce its right to repair laws
>EU will not solidify ownership rights
You will own everything, and you will be happy

I thought Josh Dryface was supposed to go with him?

>>737098486
Thank you ferretsfucker, without your lolcow behaviour the skg would never get all of that free advertising.

>>737098486
I'm genuinely shocked he hasn't killed himself or deleted fucking everything and gotten a haircut and a real job.

>>737098675
thanks pirate software LMAO

>>737093751
OK JD Vance. Thanks for your worthless opinion.

>>737092274
Every game is moving to a model of online maintenance, supplements and authentication, even supposedly physical media isn't safe from day 1 downloads even if it's just for the disc drive that needs to be registered online.
This represents an avenue for malicious alteration of any game, which is most definitely an option that companies both have used and will use when it suits them. And even if you think that your favorite company won't do that, then you also need to think about what the company that acquires that company will do later down the line.
>>737092434
>Intellectual
>Property
>Rights
They are neither Intellectual work, nor are they property, nor are they rights.
As a term IP exists almost exclusively for lobbyists to confuse the issue for the layman by rolling up multiple laws into one.

>>737098675
EU part might be where it stops for years since a single country can halt the process with a veto. Generally EU hates Silicon Valley and big US tech companies so if this is a chance to piss on their cereals EU will take it.

Geeky hobby, geeky ambassador.
>>737088292
He looks like a geek.

>>737093864
What else would you expect from corporations?

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>>737098486
Why does he look like Garth Marenghi?

>>737098757
>there's a non zero chance a furry's shit opinion was so bad it destroyed the machinations of most powerful bankers decades in the making
Lel

>>737092434
IP rights don't give a painter the right to come to your house and take his painting away after you paid money for it.

>>737098815
You gotta remember that Pirate Software belongs to the managerial class. He even chose his name because he wanted better SEO.
Forget about chances, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the higher ups at AAA companies have the exact same opinion as him.
The only difference is that he was dumb and out of touch enough to open his mouth.

>>737088143
see i'm someone who thinks it's good to maintain your appearance and make the world more beautiful but North Americans and particularly conservatives have this weird thing where they place excess value on personal presentation. the guy is clearly washed and is wearing a shirt (which he shouldn't have to frankly), i couldn't give a fuck if his hair looks retarded or he has a gay goatee

>>737098296
Fuck him.
I view abolishment of privacy rights as opening of pandoras box. You cant go back afterwards.

>>737098937
>and is wearing a shirt (which he shouldn't have to frankly)
He should go naked.

>>737093751
>the EU is a communist state by the way

i fucking wish

>>737090148
And that is exactly what makes him retarded for wanting more government attention on his hobbies

>>737098754
>I'm genuinely shocked he hasn't killed himself or deleted fucking everything and gotten a haircut and a real job.
That would require him to have the slightest bit of capacity for self-reflection.

>>737099108
I think the next thing for ferret fucker is hes gonna troon out.

>>737088369
>If the people working in the EU parliament will have their opinion swayed by the appearance of the person presenting it, then they were never going to agree with him anyway
not true, politicians basically only care about appearances because they are the bourgeoisie, so looking professional is arguably the most important thing. the dude doing the slides was probably trolling him because he didn't look presentable

If you're a leader of a movement going up before politicians to present your movements argument it's completely unacceptable to be in anything less than a full suit.

>>737099097
Zoomers are already flocking to retro games because modern ones are so shit, it only stands to reason that telling AAA to fuck off and at least attempt to make games again can only be a good thing.

>>737088143
gamers being able to keep their games? this hurts my feelings actually and that's bad.

>>737098787
But the thing is - the issue is so innocent that there is no reason for any EU country to block it. The only country in existance that would be against it is the US and that's exactly why EU is handling the issue.

>>737099181
Times have changed grandpa. Get over used to it.

>>737088143
He's got a strong jaw, a purposeful look, and clean eyes. These are things that overcome almost any deficient part of a male's appearance. If you have all three of these things you have the physical capacity to control a room if your mental capacities follow.

>>737088143
Wait isn't moth man American? Why the fuck is he in the EU?

SOMEBODY TAKE HIM OFF THAT STADIUM AND GET HIS SHIRT

>>737098815
Sometimes, just sometimes this world is still OK.

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>Start a movement because your racing game was shut down
>Get real support, then get sponsored by a major streamer to clinch the signatures
Make it all the way to parliament
>Take a shower and throw on a dress shirt

>>737088143
>extremely important to you
how shit is your life lmao

>>737098754
The only reasonable conclusions are that either he is fully deluded in his own little world and completely rejected the reality where he could be wrong, or that he gets off on the humiliation

>>737088143
What do you mean wash your hair properly. You do know that washing hair does not magically regrow it right? That's as good as its going to look after washing it for him.

>>737088369
t. Autist that has no idea how the real world works. Yes people will pre judge you based on your appearance and will make decisions based on whether you are visually pleasing or not. If you dress like a man and carry yourself like a man you will get the respect reserved for men. Shave your beard and get a real haircut slobbo

>>737098754
He hasn't uploaded anything in over a month. Whenever he does, he bleeds another few thousand subscribers. You can only go so far until youtube/twitch notices you're viewbotting.

>>737099294
Because EU Parliment really doesn't care for trivialities. He's not an official member of the Stop Destroying Videogames initiative (he lives in Poland, but he has no Polish citizenship yet), but he was invited by them as one of the speakers.

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Molesting ferrets is bad mmmmkay?

OP comes off like some catty woman desu

>>737088143
r/antiwork did better

>>737097706
the goal of politicians is to convince
you persuade normalfags through halo effect and fame
this is the ONE case where celebrity worship makes sense (to use)

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>>737088143
>No one's going to take SKG seriously after this.
No one took it seriously before, it's 2024's chanology with a tenth of the energy because no one even has to leave their house this time. It came and went after the petition succeeded and people focused on something else.
>b-but the government will-
sure.

>>737099471
This isn't US where celebrities ask you to vote for whatever big thing the jews already passed

>>737098580
And? If not for regulations we would be as fat and stupid as Americans, constantly fighting against our own rights as citizens and willingly letting corporations lord over us.

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Communism lost.

>>737099376
thats for low IQ people, this doesn't actually work if you have 125+

I like how started with a very nice presentation and a very well prepared speech...
...and then threw it all away with an adlibbed speech about how it might not cost that much to create end of life support for games

Really nailed that one

>>737099505
It will not be taken seriously when games are made to stay available after EOS either, because that should have been the default from the start.

I feel like the biggest problem is the name is fucking awful. It’s such bad way to market a movement, no one will take it seriously. They should have gone with a name like Digital Consumer Rights Advocacy. Because people care about consumer rights. Stop Killing Games could be about anything. Pretty sure more than a handful of people thought it was about dei sjw stuff killing games. Not actually servers being taken offline and shit.

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>>737088143
I am impressed he didn't Stutter or Drop his Spagetthi
Ross is My Hero

>>737088143
All you have to attack is his appearance? I'm noticing...

>>737099036
He would mog every cuckold that sits at the EU parliament.

>>737099613
Millions on marketing vs something games did out of the box half a century ago, which is more expensive?

>>737098675
>You will own everything, and you will be happy
NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN

>>737099679
noticing that clavicular is right

>>737093751
LASER

>>737099181
Nah, suits are cringe

Why are companies more money hungry than usual?
Like one time purchases arent enough anymore

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These games dying literally does not affect me so I hope SKG fails. I think stupid people losing money is funny.

>Catarina Vieria throwing all those vidya references
I don't know if that's cute or cringe

>>737099820
Shill post DNI.

>>737099648
What the EU will hypothetically call the legislation is their business. Stop Killing Games is way better for publicity.
Imagine "Digital Consumer Rights Advocacy" next to some nerd in a youtube thumbnail. lol

>>737092274
I think the hidden agenda is to make live serviceslop unattractive as a business model so they'll be forced to make real games again

>>737099838
One would've been enough, I skipped ahead after she said it was "sus"

>>737099376
>Yes people will pre judge you based on your appearance
Who do you trust more when they advocate for preservationism, consumer rights, and putting tech in the consumer's hands so they can run their own servers if need be? A generic groomed dude who looks the exact same as the guys sitting next to him, or someone who genuinely looks like an autistic nerd who spent way too much time bitching about FOSS online?

>>737099686
What's going on is that companies outsource all their networking services to Amazon or Meta. Ross did bring up microservices, but everything else is outsourced too.
Therefore, when support ends they have no way to preserve the game. This is also why games die after one week without 100.000 daily players because companies are paying out the ass every month.
Developers used to have people in-house to do this so providing server code was as easy as asking a guy called Melvin for it. Also, once the game was online it was much cheaper to maintain. This is why 20 year old MMOs are still profitable with 100 active users.
Now you are probably wondering why they do this if it's more expensive and the reason is because it's easier to pay someone else to do it.

>>737089027
It will now kike

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The Japanese have spoken. Kill all games.

>>737099895
Seeing as this doesn't affect any game already released, only those going forward, how much would it cost to make sure the game already supports EoS before they even begin outsourcing all their network services?

>>737088143
Why the fuck didn't he go to Turkey to get a hair transplant before appearing in public? And got veneers? His teeth are abysmal.

Theres something real funny about how corpo simps were saying over and over again that nobody would care or that the initiative would get laughed out of the room meanwhile everyone at the meeting was supportive and even the boomers who don't play vidya still supported it because their kids game

>>737099895
The outsourcing epidemic is real. I work in the IT dept. of a large company, and I've been fighting a losing battle for the past half decade against management's first solution to everything being "just hire a service provider" as opposed to training the staff you already have and which know the company and its needs inside and out, are immediately on hand in case something goes wrong, and even accounting for the higher pay they'd be getting are probably still miles cheaper than outsourcing.

>>737099975
It's a case by case basis because some games host 10 player per match, others host 10.000 if it's an MMO.
However, it'd be much cheaper to set it up since the beginning than to go back and implement it later.
It also depends on what the requirements are since repair options have also been mentioned, as an example.

>>737099971
"We can't do it because our current process doesn't support it" is such a retarded take. If your process doesn't support it, change the process. Don't want to release the source code? Well, provide some other means to set up a server, then. Have an end of life plan. Instead of "converting the game to an offline version" after the fact, build it from the ground up to be easy to convert when you terminate support.

>>737100032
Don't be silly, we can't train people because then we would lose our investment when we fire them.
Let's spend money on outsourcing each month forever instead.

>>737100074
Right, private MMO servers are readily available despite the games still being sold today, so as Ross says
>Even giving clear instructions on what you need to set up a server and play the game offline would satisfy the bare minimum

>>737099971
Japan has the worst copyright law I've ever seen, and that includes America.
Pirating a game is a criminal violation, as in, the police can arrest you over it.

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>yfw you will own everything and be sad

>>737099979
Disgracefully vain suggestion. Ross wouldn't do that.

>read contract
>sign contract
>agree with contract for years
>out of nowhere : I changed my mind gibsmedat
this shit is so stupid

Is it really so hard for developers to implement offline singleplyer (why does singleplayer has to be "online only" is beyond me) and the ability to play multiplayer locally/via the dedicated server? I can still play Quake 3 Arena and Diablo 2 both in single and multiplayer without issue.
Sure, the only problem are the MMOs, but they are not the issue for SKG, because the majority offers a clear subscription service - you stop paying, you lose access to the game.

>>737099971
>They perceive games as something they "purchase" and "own," and they don't realize they are receiving a live service
The issue here that these retards keep missing or insist on not addressing is that these live service games are being sold as products at a one time cost. So yes, the customer owns the license for the product under commerce law, a contract that is being breached when the licenser retires the servers.

The solution is simple, we already have a commerce model for ongoing services which the licenser can end at their discretion. Sell live service games under a subscription model, that's what it's fucking for.

>>737088143
looks like a man with conviction and beliefs
he gets shit done unlike /v/

>>737100284
You only agree with the contract because you have no other alternative. Because nowadays every single publisher uses the same model that benefits them. So the choices are - agree on their terms or find a new hobby.

Thor will win in the end

>>737099979
BALDING IS BEAUTIFUL
BAN BALDPHOBES

>>737099971
>something they purchase and own, they dont realize they are recieving a live license
fuck this bullshit excuse. No fucking shit I bought a product with my money, I fucking own it.
>Nuh uh Nintendo can legally send their legal ninjasto take your games away and that's a good thing!
Nips are cucks in the truest sense. No wonder they're so eager to sponsor Trump's war

>>737095276
I don't think he even has citizenship because he still doesn't speak Polish
Ross is a TRVE AMERICAN

>>737088143
>>737088230
>nooo!! you should be ashamed to not be wearing your goy attire while in the presence of our EU overlords that only exist to flood your country with shitskins!
Subservient goycattle. You should be wanting to kill these people

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>When you try everything to stop the thing you hate so hard that it catapults straight into government and basically the entire government agrees with it

>>737088230
Yes
Henry is /our/guy
World belongs to handsome people

>>737088143
Ross Scott looked disgusting--baldness protruding--in his purple shirt before European Parliament. Very very disrespectful.

>>737099554
You've shown clearly you don't care about rights, liberty is supposed to mean the liberty of a person, but euros seem to think rights mean rights to defraud businesses

>>737100467
Turn on your monitor

>>737088143
I HATE COMMUNIST

>>737099971
*HEARTWARMING NEWS*
random japs are just as retarded as our homegrown retards.

>>737099894
Not the NEET gamer, that's for sure.

>>737100292
And the speakers addressed that point and argued that the discussion whether it's a purchase or a licence is a moot point, because the predatory practices remain, they are just named differently.

>>737088143
>gamers
Europoors are

>>737099561
kotautism status?

>>737100487
Your nose is practically poking out of my screen

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THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX-icW7sctc

>>737100573
It's not a moot point, the entire reason publishers moved away from subscriptions was because they were inherently unpalatable to most people, and therefore not as profitable. They've been violating consumer law for years doing this and it just hasn't been addressed because video games aren't considered a serious market to monitor and regulate like others. While games would still be shut down, it would be perfectly legal to do so under a subscription model and that would be made abundantly clear to prospective customers, a huge benefit is that it would also end microtransactions within such games permanently as those constitute sales under license agreements as well.

>>737099376
This is the EU parliament, they all look like freaks in there

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>anime girl pastas
>blatant bait
>attempts at derailing
>demoralizing and "why bother???"
>"you're commies!!!!"
>"STOP STOP STOP the EU is going to make things worse!!!!!!!"
>"hmmm you want devs to support games forever????" and other bullshit that has been asked and answered 1 million times already
>"this is not vidya related go to /pol/"
>dumping actual CP
>when that doesn't work, dumping nude selfies and gay porn
>"this entire thing is reddit"
>"there's no way this goes before EU parliament, signatures will dry up at 1 million"
>"these signatures are all botted"
>DDOSing
>"you just want to profit off of poor devs work"
>"EU parliament will dismiss this"
>"shouldn't we be focusing on more important things like [insert other political talking point here]"
>"you're all hypocrites!!!"
>"this is basically gamergate 2.0, they will never support this"
>"the EU will ignore it"
>"they will just draft some ineffectual law if anything"
>even MORE claims that something literally talking about the gaming industry isn't vidya related
>"t-this is eceleb shilling! buy an ad!"
>"they will just put a disclaimer on the box, that's it"
>"the extra burden is too much on poor devs"
>"there is no regulation needed, just don't buy it [because that has worked for the past 20 years, lol]"
>unironic ancap retards crying and stamping their feet
>"what about the VISA/Mastercard scandal!!!"
>"hmm you actually are using a government apparatus as intended? is this not silly?"
YOU ARE HERE:
>"he looks unprofessional! Nobody will take this seriously!"
Even months later, they are still seething. What is it with one moldman that makes the bootlickers rage so much?

>>737088143
This is the most presentable he's ever looked but it's still really sad. The oversized, wrinkled shirt with no tie or jacket makes me remember my computer tech teacher from highschool when he had to discuss grades with parents.
Like a fish out of water

>>737099376
This
Unironically hair, clothes, tattoos, accent, sex and race are important

>>737100284
>buy thing
>people give me a contract after the fact
>it's full of retarded legalspeak that would take hours to read
>don't read it like a sane person because i know it's just wishwashy nonsense for a company to take no responsibility for anything
>sign the initiative anyway because i can
Feels good

>>737099376
lipstick on a pig

>>737100337
But there are alternatives. You can always pirate and play private servers.

>all these look maxing things
Eloquence beats all hes already inside the place.

> regarded subhumans still railing against PirateSoftware in the comments
He doesn't think about you at all. Are you all gay for him or something?
Also way to reveal how childish the "support base" is to an outside observer.

>>737099376
95% of people I worked with on government contracts are ugly and weird by pop beauty standards. Ross looked fine, good even, like a french musketeer or something.
Look at pretty much everyone else in that room who isn't younger than 30. They are all EU weirdos, that's just how it goes.

>>737100832
Yeah, what ABOUT the Visa/Mastercard scandal? Let's focus on that one next after we score this easy win.

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Yup yup

>>737100717
>a huge benefit is that it would also end microtransactions within such games permanently
Yet both wow and xiv have them.

AAALICULAR GOT FRAMES PER SECOND MOGGED BY A RANDOM INDIE FRAT LEADER, HIS GPU LEVELS SPIKED SO HARD HE DEADASS UNALIVED ON THE SPOT

>>737101023
If they ever shut their games down, then yes, they will be in violation of commerce law.

>>737100837
He really didn't need to wear a full suit just to talk to your dads

>>737101000
The EU is actually looking at fixing that too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Payments_Initiative

>>737100898
LEGAL alternatives.

>>737100961
How are your subscriber numbers doing, Thor?

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>>737098486
Based pedochad

Why is /v/ siding with socialists all of a sudden

>>737101058
Not retroactively. Though I could see an argument for private servers of old versions of the game being legalized through Right to Resurrection (no, Classic WoW is not Vanilla), as well as right to mod.

>>737101076
Sure that's true, but a well fitting shirt instead would do too. There's just an aura of slovenly that gets radiated with shirts like in the OP.
Idk it has always stuck in my mind because of how out of place he looked and I think back on it when I think of dress to impress etc because he looked like shit.

>>737100214
It's like that in Binland too, but there was a notorius case in 2012 where the police raided a family home and confiscated the Winnie the Pooh laptop of a 10-year-old girl because she had downloaded a Finnish singer's songs. It was ridiculed enough that the copyright organization behind it withdrew their police complaint and settled for a couple hundred euros. Anyway after that I haven't heard of anyone getting raided by the popo, now it's a few copyright troll law firms sending letters asking for €€€ and threatening with civil cases (actually bad because the standard of proof isn't what it's in a criminal trial, it's "he wins whose bullshit stories the technologically illiterate retarded boomer judge believes". They've only actually sued a few people tho afaik to make examples of)

>>737101134
>Not retroactively
Good news! The law already exists, it's just not being enforced because again, video games aren't seen as a serious market worth serious monitoring and regulation.

I repeat. You cannot sell a perpetual license, which is what most MTX falls under, to someone and then breach the contract arbitrarily without remuneration. And no, putting an extra line in the EULA doesn't mean they can, EULAs don't supercede law.

>>737101148
>dress to impress
He's there to tell parents that their kids are either stupid or passable, not take them to dinner. I'm guessing it really is your dads' lessons that taught you to analyze how men dress just in case you want to fuck them.

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Why the fuck was she talking in memes? Reminded me of those bad high school powerpoint presentations. She is a paid professional btw and voted in by her fellow peers.

>>737088143
funny to hear people complain about his dress code after the shit that the literal "Ukrainian" gay jewish president Zelesky pulled off

>>737101319
>she's 29
Huh. I feel old now.

>>737101319
>he doesnt know
A lot of jobs end up being basically just spruced up PowerPoint presentations in real practice man. Turns out communication is important

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>>737101319
>europeens

>>737088369
You'd have to be retarded to ignore Physiognomy. Everyone understands it at a subconscious level. Ugly things are ugly because they are bad.

>>737088143
I thought /v/ was pro capitalism
What went wrong?

>>737093751
If the EU was a communist state we would have actual political snd material independence rather than sucking the mutilated cocks of american pigdogs

>>737101435
Capitalism is regulated. Unregulated capitalism is libertarianism.

Real capitalism hasn't been tried btw, rent and usury would never be permitted in real capitalism.

mod please enable country flags on /v/

>>737101148
the shirt fits just fine, i really don't know what you people are on about

>>737099803
line must keep going up at all costs - in part because they're all run by psychos and it's all a game of numbers to them, but also because the moment it starts going down shareholders start divesting and It Must Never Come To That

>>737101245
You're trying really hard to be homosexual aren't you?

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>>737088143
>the paid shills opposing SKG have fallen back to the classic "ROSS IS UGLY" rhetoric

>>737101435
>you must be randian or a communist
WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST SYSTEM YOU DUMB FUCK

>>737099979
his baldness will ressonate with EU parliament boomers' own

>>737099181
Why stop at a suit? Why not demand haute coture by jean-franz hotdog philippe van damme where you're dressed up in 40 kilos of copper wire and caramelized sugar?

>>737092274
I don't give a shit about goyslop trash. What I do give a shit about is removing the ability for companies to pull the plug on a game I do like sometime down in the future because I didn't stop them when it was just goyslop being affected.
Of course thirdies lack any sort of critical thinking so this is lost on you.

No one is threatened by SKG.
They will just stop selling in the EU if they make some law or something.

>>737101489
90% of flags on /v/ would either be Russian or Israeli.

thor status?

>>737101649
>bargaining

>>737098801
How dare you compare that master auteur and watershed writer who has created such wonderful chillers and thrillers to some guy that jacks off to ferrets.

>>737101649
>Publisher: What the fuck!? We're missing out on millions of European gamer sales! FIX THE FUCKING GAME TAKESHI/JOHN/etc
Boom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wssFOFrXqNs

>>737101549
We do not. We live in capitalism with government services paid by taxation.

>>737101670
I am a hobbiest game developer. I don't care about any of this honestly.

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>>737092407
Just make an offline version.
>B-B-BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT IT'S TOO MUCH WORK WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TECH YOU'RE A COMMIE AAAA
Don't care. Skill issue. Do it or go to jail.

>>737101649
Many companies, even apple bent the knee.
Somehow gaming ones wont.
Yeah right

>>737101435
The free marketplace of ideas doesn't work under longform draconian copyright, patents with no due diligence and obsolete trademarks (just use a database at this point, trademarks are no longer an indicator of consistent quality, it just needs to prevent fraud and the current system practically enables it every time some manufacturer moves production to China).

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The truth of the matter is, we're so back and something will finally happen

>>737100284
If you signed a paper saying I'm allowed to kill you and I did, I would still go to prison for killing you and the paper you signed wouldn't help me at all. When you understand why, you will understand why an illegal EULA doesn't work either.

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>his clothes are too wrinkly!!1 he is bald and old !! Where is his custom fit full suit?!
what is this even

>>737101649
There are more Europeans in Europe than Americans in America. If you dont go for at least a token effort in the EU market you are actually fucking retarded.

>>737099178
You're so brown its hilarious

>noooo people wont make gachas or all the gachas will shut down
Good. I'm ready for that shit to stop so we can get senran kagura again.

>>737099971
They're the biggest corporate slave race in existence. Did you see their new anti piracy anime propaganda? It's pathetic.

>>737101649
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect
That's why Orange Donald fears the EVROPA.

>>737099376
I like how you're so desperately trying to sound like an authority on the matter when you're just a low iq brownie who has never even been close to a smart person.

>>737101649
>No one is threatened by SKG.
Which is why all you shills are in here attempting to poison the well

>>737099971
>games before internet
>its all there, playable, no source code needed
>games for some reason only in the last decade
>HURRRR URRR WE NEED ONLINE ONLY
Make it make sense. We made games before the internet was even a fucking thing. I think we can go back to that.

>>737101772
The average american is magnitudes more profitable than the average europoor

>>737101795
I just want Dragalia Lost, Wildstar, Gigantic, that RTS card game from EA and some other games be easily available on community run dedicated servers, man

>>737101772
Not for long with giddy eu is to go to war with russia

>>737101649
>[Insert company here] will just opt out of the EU market!
Every time with this shit. Apple bent the knee, Valve bent the knee, everyone will bend the knee and all you burgers can do about that is seethe.

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>>737099971
Sakamoto, you're going to get your retarded gacha slop, and you're going to be able to launch the offline version when it reaches EoS and you're going to fucking like it.

>>737101851
I am not your enemy. I am just someone that has no connection to the industry but loves making videogames. I won't make a any money out of this as I am perfectly happy engaging in my hobby.

I just see that this will go nowhere as most things do.

>>737101649
Yet that one streamer fag has his discord mods (and the people he pays to pretend to be his friends) go around internet shitting up every discussion about SKG.

>>737101649
Ok, no big loss. Name 5 good games made in the US in last 5 years.

>>737100284
EULAs and ToS are not legally binding, especially when you sign them after already paying for an item. An EULA cannot absolve the company of responsibility for breaking the law. Also, the entire point of legislation is to change something that might currently be legal/illegal so that it's no longer. So saying "The company has the right to fuck your ass" is pointless because the entire movement is because we don't want them to have the right to fuck our asses.

>>737101873
Reminder that it's all Blizzard and Diablo 3's fault. People pitched a fit over error 37, but after that always-online was practically taken for granted

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>>737101649
uhoh shitskin commies didn't like this one

>>737101913
Russia can't beat even Ukraine, don't worry about it.

>>737101893
The euro is more valuable than the dollar, and there's more people buying and often a good reception to most game. So no, in practice thats a massive lie.

This whole Stop Killing Games debacle on here has been really funny. It is the most obvious, clear-as-day proof that /v/ literally does not care about anything other than being contrarian.

It's not like the whole EU will reviewbomb, shun new games without any End of Life plan(s) and will commit meaningful vandalism against such corporations that bribe anyone that poses a threat.
Can you see this futile fight?

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>>737101000
>Visa/Mastercard scandal?
not my problem

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>the same tired old arguments repeated in every new thread
>the same tactics of concern trolling, discouraging and shitflinging
>meanwhile we went from "lol the initiative won't ever get enough votes, it's dead!" to "Ross dressed poorly showing up at the EU parlaiment!"
Just stop for a moment and take that in.
You would think the corpo shills would either stop being paid or at least change their methods, but this is all they have.
Enjoy seeing Ross in parlaiment. You can't do anything about it.

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>>737098754
He still has 5k current Twitch "subs" and 2.5k viewers that are slowly dwindling. Even if they're 90% gifted subs and he's viewbotting, he's still making 6 figures a year and doing better than 99.9% of Twitch. Only a retard would just abruptly end everything rather than ride it out.

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>>737102023
> Ukraine doesn't lose as long as there is a single Ukrainian alive
Can't argue against that.

>>737099971
Someone please nuke twitter. I'm sick of twitter, japanese twitter, jeet twitter, kike twitter, nigger twitter and every other variant of twitter.

>>737102023
Ukraine had the second largest standing army in Europe after Russia by a large margin.
Number 3 would be Poland at like 1/3 of Ukraine's.
I'm not saying Russia wants to invade Europe or even that it would win, but European counties have no army to speak of, and over 40% of military age males are migrants.

>>737099391
>He hasn't uploaded anything in over a month
He streams basically every day and is literally streaming Pragmata live on Youtube and Twitch right now to a total of about 1900 viewers. The idea that he lost all his audience and had to go get a real job is fantasy. He's still doing better than 99.9% of streamers out there and making a good living from it. Being a shitty person has never meant you can't be popular.

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>>737099971
I don't understand how they end up misconstruing shit this badly.
>California state law
Only inoperable for the manufacturer if they can't produce a local server hosting software exe like games did in the 90s. Only issue I guess are the microtransactions, the law in general is a bit poorly put forth but is definitely in the right place. Dunno where they got "need to maintain servers forever" from. The law's formulated the way it is so companies will design around it.
>Source code
Producing source code for a game is not impossible and they do not need to release the entire source code. Fucking iD Software gave up Doom and Quake's code and that code is producing new games to this day.
>Creating a private server after the companies ceases sales and ends service is piracy
No it isn't. If they are not distributing the game then it is abandonware and should go under something like a Right to Resurrect.
>Cost of converting to offline is zero
It isn't but it's cheaper than people pretend to be, especially since it's not retroactive and would have to be accounted for during development.
Guarantee that most of the "opposition" to this would evaporate overnight if the regulation was actually implemented. Besides, many Japanese games were never released in the west anyway and would be played as usual by status quo. And many independent creators from Japan don't fall under SKG's objective anyway.

>>737101723
Yes, that's literally democratic socialism. We have a nominally free market, we elect representatives who make laws to regulate that market in accordance with the people's will. American education is a fucking joke, but I guess I can't blame you, your rulers want you stupid and ignorant.

>>737102239
So as long as he stays put his subscribers don't get notified and thus don't unsub.

>>737088369
>If the people working in the EU parliament will have their opinion swayed by the appearance of the person
Everyone does, consciously or unconsciously.
Stop believing the lies you were told as a child.

>>737102273
Number 2 is Turkey that Russia would never dare to attack. Number 3 is Poland, that Russian propagandists would really want to nuke, but even Russian generals admit that picking a fight with Poland at this point is an apocalyptically bad idea.

>>737102141
Exactly, it's like when they were gonna make gacha games and lootbox features illegal. There's no way they completely and unequivocally banned those in several countries already right?
OH WAIT

>>737102314
No it isn't. You're thinking of social democracy, which is not socialism.

>>737088143
"Washing your hair" doesn't restore your hairline. That's the only problem I see, it doesn't look "greasy" or whatever.

>>737101649
Tim Apple cucked, so what makes you thinkg you won't jamboy?

>>737102370
You actual dumb fuck

>>737101873
The miscommunication is clear.

Corpos: "SKG must be stopped, or all those terrible, awful things we had planned for gaming won't be possible."

Gamers: "SKG must pass, because we do not actually want all those terrible, awful things planned for gaming to happen."

I do agree on not releasing the source code since it's intellectual property. That's just logical. But I don't think SKG is about that?

People don't seem to understand that the corporation is your enemy in the most basic sense. You are competing for resources. Endavoring to pay less for more is the most natural behavior imaginable. Don't let yourself be buttered up by your competitor pretending to be your friend, just so they can take more of your stuff.

>>737101965
>especially when you sign them after already paying for an item
Fucking this. You can't claim it's a service if the """contract""" can't be read before money is exchanged. As an aside, the same consumer watchdog who recently launched a lawsuit against Ubi is also suing Activision over what they deem abusive banning depriving players of access to the game they paid for. I can't wait for its conclusion.

>>737102378
OP doesn't know what a comb is, his hair's washed, it just wasn't brushed.

>>737102385
Democratic socialism is when the means of production are controlled democratically by the workers. You sound like a retarded American. Bernie Sanders makes the same mistake all the time.

>>737102273
>Russia is invincible, its armies are inexhaustible and all of Europe would be conquered in a matter of days
Yes, yes we've heard it all before, good luck getting past the Butthurt Belt

>>737102273
>EU needs meat for the meatgrinder to crush Russia once and for all
>over 40% of military age males are migrants
See, that would actually sort several problems at once if EU nations had balls.

>>737101098
>NOOOO STOP GIVING GOVERNEMNTS MORE AMMO, JUST VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS!!!
etc.

>>737102379
You are all hilariously programmed to antagonize dissenting opinions, it's unbelievable really. I am just a regular game dev that is so indie you wouldn't even know who I am.
Won't ever share my opinion with programmed sheep ever again.

>>737102445
>Democratic socialism is when the means of production are controlled democratically by the workers.
No, no the fuck it's not. That's just straight communism.

>>737102393
It is rare but not impossible for a corporation to garner enough good will over a long enough period of time to where it actually benefits both sides.

Most opt for the "we'll enshittify our product to the lowest possible standard that you'll still buy it for."

>>737102361
I don't count Turkey as European because it borders Iran, and I honestly don't know where they stand. They play both sides as far as I can tell.
Realistically, I don't think Russia wants to fight anyone else right now. That's just lazy propaganda.

>>737102361
Why are they scared of polaks so much

>>737102453
I don't trust them. It will be like when the US ditched Afghanistan; all the locals just surrendered and joined the enemy so they could enslave and murder all the people they were supposed to protect.

>>737093968
Aint that nigga gay?

>Oh shit we bootlickers are LOSING! I know, I'll try to ridicule his appearance! That'll be a big win for us!
Can you narcissists stop embarrassing yourselves for FIVE MINUTES.

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>>737101098
>>737102468
VISA is already a useless middleman in most digital purchases ever since EU made it into law or EU purchases have to have second verification that goes through european bank services.

Example when Euro buys a game from Steam, first the purchase goes through VISA but then a bank verification pop up appears where you have to punch in your account numbers and passcodes
anyway. So VISA serves absolutely no fucking point in EU version of Steam. Gabe is paying them money over nothing.

>>737102386
>But I don't think SKG is about that?
Of course it isn't. It would be nice if devs did that, but no one would take such a request serious.

>>737101724
Yes, because you're irrelevant.

>>737102481
No, communism is stateless. The difference between democratic socialism and socialism is that democratic socialism has less state interference in the market.

>>737102517
Turkey is a part of NATO and really eager to square up against Russia, because they also find them a threat to the region.
Not as eager as Poland and the Scandis, but you get the idea.
Now imagine Russia attacking the Baltics and having to deal with Poland to the southwest, Ukraine to the southeast, Finland to the north and Turkey to the south. That would be adorable.

>>737102560
Americans left though, there was nobody left for them to protect.

>>737102474
>I am just a regular game dev that is so indie you wouldn't even know who I am.
Makes sense why you don't care about 2nd biggest global marketplace when your game doesn't sell anyway. Now shut the fuck up you worthless loser nobody, adults are talking.

>>737102589
>Example when Euro buys a game from Steam, first the purchase goes through VISA but then a bank verification pop up appears where you have to punch in your account numbers and passcodes
I don't remember ever doing this
t. European