>>737095251
Nothing, still a mediocre glazed slop

Japs aren't the only asians that can make good games

>>737095251
Make original games with unique gameplay that isnt copied from other games.

>>737095251
>Copies
So how many actul non copy product sales is that?

>>737095303
Let me guess, you actually think Resident Evil Requiem is a good game?

Movie games and live service are the absolute bottom of the barrel of soullessness.

>>737095251
now that the month is over we can forget about it

>>737095303
Koreans have been mogging Japs in the cultural sphere for 15 years straight now

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>>737095348
How do I develop YOUR brand of schizophrenia?

>>737095251
That devs should actually update their fucking games at a decent speed

>>737095251
Quantity over quality. Just put as much shit in your game as possible because your average gamer can't recognize if a mechanic is well designed or not. They just think "oh new content" and consume.

>>737095251
Make fantasy games with proper fantasy aesthetics and attractive White characters

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>>737095251
The western development process has been crippled by DEI

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>>737095365

>>737095504
>>737095548
why are you posting reddit

If you love reddit screencaps why dont you stay there?

>>737095548
>>737095581
They've been real quiet since the patches fixed everything and the game turned out to be a huge success

That Eastern gamers are even more susceptible to AAA slop than Western gamers are? On the other hand, I have no idea what sold well in the West this past year.

>>737095275
That k8kebot shills are paid to shit on games that aren't dei nigger woman loving trash, and if the mainstream media pushes a game, you shouldn't trust them, and if they shit on a game, then you should be interested in checking it out for yourself.

>>737095504
100% correct reddit, thanks for posting it. You may now go back.

>>737095581
>Pretty good
Nah lol

>>737095640
>thinking this place isn't mostly reddit at this point

>>737095727
you jest but i can go to twitter and see 4chan posts in there
and the same pajeet bots

>>737095251
Western devs are lazy
Gamers are too fucking stupid to enjoy good games now

>>737095787
Of course it is. You post shit takes on Twitter, which Anons screencap and post here, then you repost the posts from the tread on Twitter, to farm engagement and further elevate the need and desire for shit takes on Twitter. And thus the cycle continues forever.

>>737095251
Attractive white male protagonists are still popular among gamers.
Crazy.

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This 3/10 open world AI generated slop game being pushed so hard is so fuckin suspicious.

Marathon that is actually a really good and fun game which got near universal critical acclaim is getting dogpilled by a paid hate-campaign while this game gets off scot-free.
Very interesting...

Astroturfed

>>737095251
Writing doesn't matter because people can't read these days.

>>737095875
Shill or bait? Probably bait, I doubt bungie has the budget to keep paying shills at this point.

>>737095998
oh anon you don't have to pay much for indians

>>737095251
People are literally incapable of following a story if you don't present it through cutscenes and dialogue that repeatedly calls back to plot beats.

>>737095251
People want more ubislop but less boring an ugly

>Black Myth Wukong
>Stellar Blade
>Crimson Desert
>Wuchang
So, have the Chinese or Koreans ever actually released anything good or is their playbook eternally astortufing whatever their newest slop is?

>>737095251
It's halfway decent at a time when western devs are all shitting they're proverbial pants. So it's getting glazed like no other because at least it isn't more live service slop.

>>737095251
Gameplay is king.

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>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
There's nothing wrong with ChatGPT generated copies of ubikino like CD and that AI games are accepted.

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>>737095251
>Game gets over without permission

Writing
Character
Art direction
Coherence

are overrated, avg AAA played is not that much better than 2k and COD gamers

>>737096156
Is Valhalla fun? Like say I can stomach/mod out the woke shite, is it fun to play a viking in the game?
>t. not played a AC game since 2

>>737096276
>Writing
>Character
>Art direction
>Coherence

>are overrated
absent in CD*

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>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?

GAMEPLAY
IS
KING

>>737095373
>cultural sphere
>Uh kpoop
LMAO

>>737096320
And it's still successful and beloved

>>737095251
Geniunely what sets this apart from the average ubislop open world game?

>>737095251
>troon journos try to shut down non western game again
>get fucked again
lmao

>>737096294
Play origins or odyssey first

>>737095251
there is unironically 0 exploring in the game.

you can find generic chests with randomgenerated loot, a generic shiny chest with a reskinned weapon that's worse than your starting sword, or abyss cubes you can farm from bandits, or a shitty puzzle that takes 5 min to do even though you know the solution, which also gives you an abyss cube OR a shiny box with shitty randomgenerated loot OR a reskinned weapon worse than your starting sword

>>737096361
The puzzles are actual puzzles
All points of interest give you good rewards, unlike in Ubisoft games

Basically anyone calling this game "ubislop" is a casual that doesn't play games or too low IQ for anything but the most surface-level analysis.

Is this game SM or always on line forced multiplayer slop? Because if it's the former I might actually get it.

>>737096497
why lie

>>737095309
>don't
here you dropped this

>>737096497
>The puzzles are actual puzzles
Ubi games also have these no hint puzzle shrines
and specially abilities you can find

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>>737095251
What can we learn from RE9 success?

>>737096784
It has almost no competition in the single-player AAA survival horror genre.

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>>737095251
Generic open world locales are good
Using AI assets is good
Adding random gameplay elements that server no real purpose is good
You don't need a compelling narrative
You don't need an interesting protagonist
You don't need fun and fair boss encounters
You don't need a memorable soundtrack or interesting art direction

Just fill up the slop trough with a giant bland open world and sprinkle it with a bunch of tacked on flashy bullshit and todays ADHD zoomers will reward you greatly for the opportunity to consume content

>>737096784
That sequels, brand recognition and normie-fodder are easy and free money.

>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
people are still hungry for slop and always will be

>>737096898
People on /v/ want to pretend like they consider anything below RE4 and Morrowind to be literally unplayable slop, when in reality even 6/10 games are very much enjoyable despite all the design flaws and bloat

>>737096357
...by soulless NPCs (majority of the world's population)

>>737095373
this but unironically

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>>737095251
hold my butterbeer

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>>737097478
She won

>>737096534
>zero argument

>>737096664
Post 1. The vast majority of rewards in ubisoft POIs are mundane materials for crafting.

>>737097879
you can find generic chests with randomgenerated loot, a generic shiny chest with a reskinned weapon that's worse than your starting sword, or abyss cubes you can farm from bandits, or a shitty puzzle that takes 5 min to do even though you know the solution, which also gives you an abyss cube OR a shiny box with shitty randomgenerated loot OR a reskinned weapon worse than your starting sword

>>737098013
>le worse than your starting weapon fag
Not interested in your larp.

>>737098042
I accept your concession, nigger

>>737096898
Literally none of those are true, CD truly mind broke you niggers

Ok so what the fuck is up with the Dragon mission at fort musket? Like two of the canons are nearly impossible for this slow as shit dragon to dodge, and one of the canons sits at the invisible wall. Trust Pearl Abyss to make flying a dragon feel like shit.

Open world singleplayer MMO theme parks is the future of gaming and once AI can generate endless radiant quests you can keep playing that completely bland gruel forever.

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Apologize

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>>737095251
>only 5 million in one month which is the average of AAA game
>koreaboo act like it’s 50 million some shit
lol even Slay the Spire 2 sold more than this gookshit

>>737098854
>which is the average of AAA game
No it isn't

>>737095251
>>737095251
THIS IS NO SUCCESS
CONCORD 8
IT CONCORD 8
CONCOOORDDDD

>>737099564
based

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Thanks for beta testing.

>>737098354
>generic single player mmo but without the input lag
no

it's so easy to sell slop to gamers

>>737095251
Normalfag masses like ubisoft style games

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>>737095504
>>737095548
>>737095581
You lost. CD is kino.

>>737098354
I miss when even mediocre literal who games felt original or at least didn't copy what everyone and their extended family was already copying. Not that it wasn't done at all, but not as much.

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>>737095251
for anyone curious
[dokev news]
>pearl abyss focuses on one project at a time, hence they had to pause development on dokev and focus on crimson desert
>crimson desert's success has given developers confidence in dokev
>development on dokev has already begun, all major developers working on it
>they have taken feedback from crimson desert into account (storytelling, controls, etc)
>the game will have softer tones instead of violence since it is targeted for family and kids as well
>development is much easier now since the development team has experience with blackspace engine
>game could also potentially launch for the switch 2, since many in the development team think the game is suitable for such a platform
>they plan to release some development update within this year, expect news in game events such as gamescom or tga
>game's potential release window is 2028

>>737098854
why don't you share how much recent western slop has made in a month, gcj troon?

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>>737098354
I wasn't able to bring myself to finish this and now I'm having trouble finishing Crimson Desert as well for largely the same reasons, there's a lack of variety across the hours and in CD's case there's too many cases of unwarranted and purposeful tedium.
I think the only reason why I was able to finish BotW and TotK was because I knew that at any point that I could just finish the game in less than 30 minutes by bumrushing the finale, but if I want to finish CD I have to go through bugged quests, clean dust off of solar panels, do several shitty unresponsive boss fights and remain a forceful participant of a story that I don't care about.

>>737099657
foxxo sexo

>>737096091
The Wu games are good

>>737100818
by the time dokev comes out, its intended audience from when they first revealed it would already be in college
hopefully middle management doesn't screw the dev team around again

>>737100924
Only way i am able to finish these 100 hour long games
is dropping them at some point
then coming back after few weeks or months

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>>737095251
>This much bragging about measly 5 million
lol

>>737101063
I'm the intended audience
t. 41 when it comes out

>>737095373
>Koreans
>cultural sphere
lel

>>737100924
Yeah game is genuinely too long, made worse by the lack of polish, especially for the main story. Would have been much better if they cut the content down and actually unfucked a lot of things that need unfucking.

I don't play slop.

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>>737095251
Gamers love sloppa

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>>737095251
More like What can we learn from Palworld success

>>737101571
That's a basic feature. Hell, instant scene skip is generally expected, but some devs are too lazy to implement it and force you to FF through shit you don't care about or have already seen.

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>>737100867
>why don't you share how much recent western slop has made in a month, gcj troon?
Give me one reason why should i care about westernslop, koreaboo?

That one anti CD schizo having an absolute meltdown in those threads is always funny to see

>>737102330
kys mr Lee

>>737102498 (me)
I'm trans btw, just had a dilation sesh

>>737095251
Good games sell.

>>737095251
AI games will be the future and that sucks. A 3/10 half AI generated soulless game coming out and selling 5 million while being lambasted by critics meanwhile a 9.5/10 game which oozes style and had near universal acclaim barely got a million and is failing to retain the players it did get. Just tragic, gamers these days have 0 taste.

>>737102330
the 3/10 dude? kek

Korea won

>>737100924
>3% of players have the steam achievement for finishing the main story
Yeah, you're not alone.

AI slop game with zero exploration and shit loot. FUCK Indian shills for promoting this game

>>737095251
>That a triple A game can release in this day and age being stable enough not to crash even once in the span of 80 hours play
>That a game uninitiated in the "game industry" cabal will be slandered and hated by everyone involved in the games industry, if it ever attains enough popularity
>That a game without propagandistic material and an underlying subversive agenda can beat any such game with those elements by miles, despite a generic world, simple morality and jank
>That koreans do the korean thing in all regards, not just with cars; amalgamizes all successful element of other products, shedding the retarded shit, giving you a functional, reliable albeit ugly car.
Not bad lessons

AI made game. grim.

>>737103685
I fisted your mum with my AI enhanced arm. Should've seen her face when I pulled out her remaining roe

>>737103735
Okay gook.

Maratroon absolutely demolished lmao
Westoid cucks getting put in place by based Gooks again

>>737103756
Gooks don't understand the art of creative syntax, you mongrel
>>737103775
What a retarded post. Marathon is clearly on your mind a lot, so much so that the cuck might be you

What can we learn from Crimson Desert?
>Steal RDR2 map
>Steal RDR2 controls
>Steal RDR2 input lag
>Steal RDR2 upgradeable camp
>Steal RDR2 wagon pawning with literally the same animations for selling a wagon
>Steal RDR2 picking up items 1 at a time
>Steal RDR2 opening cupboards animation
>Steal RDR2 hunting and compendium
>Steal BOTW stamina system
>Steal BOTW puzzles
>Steal BOTW/TOTK physics tools
>Steal TOTK sky islands and gliding
>Steal Assassins Creed flood the map with pointless and boring shit to do
And then add your own dog shit story, terrible voice acting, garbage writing, garbage side quests, and boring ass combat

koreans can't make good RPGs
seriously it's all the same gay shit with them dating back 20-30 years
they always have the most cringe art style and overexaggerated characters and combat
every fucking game is the same shit

>>737103942
>steal
When other games do this, it's usually called "inspired by" or "copy." No one is disputing that it has very clear and obvious veins of inspiration, but this is hardly anything new and something games have always done, you silly knobhead

>>737104118
Other games don't rip others off so blatantly. These mechanics are stolen 1 for 1, they are identical to the games they stole from. It's the same with what happened with Genshin Impact. Blatant theft by Asian companies who don't give a shit

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>>737095251
That 'people' think they're people too...

>>737103629
>zero exploration
Don't tell me I've been exploring in a game with zero exploration!?

>>737104339
Fraid so

>>737104173
I really don't care, I can tell by the syntax that you're that same guy that whines the game in every thread

>>737104339
No you didn't idort

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>>737103942
>Steal RDR2 map
RDR2 invented maps?
>Steal RDR2 controls
Not even going to comment on this one, what did you want? Press X to go walk forward and click R3 to turn left?
>Steal RDR2 input lag
RDR2 inventeed weighty animations?
>Steal RDR2 upgradeable camp
RDR2 invented upgrading your base?
>Steal RDR2 wagon pawning with literally the same animations for selling a wagon
RDR2 invented trade goods? (Spoiler alert, they lifted this directly from BDO, which has had wagon trading for longer than RDR2 has been around.)
>Steal RDR2 picking up items 1 at a time
lol, lmao even
>Steal RDR2 opening cupboards animation
Oh, I see I've been coaxed into a snafu. Well I might as well keep going.
>Steal RDR2 hunting and compendium
Halo invented FPS. Wait, wrong game.
>Steal BOTW stamina system
BOTW invented stamina?
>Steal BOTW puzzles
BOTW invented puzzles?
>Steal BOTW/TOTK physics tools
BOTW invented fucking PHYSICS?
>Steal TOTK sky islands and gliding
Bro... you didn't even mention Skyward Sword!?
>Steal Assassins Creed flood the map with pointless and boring shit to do
Assassins creed invented map markers?

That a successful AAA game doesn't always have to be a slurper narrative driven game. Crimson desert has basically no coherent story but the gameplay makes up for it tenfold. There's actually shit to do in the world.

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>>737095373
Ok k-pop enjoyer faggot

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>>737096383
>troon journos try to shut down non western game again
>get fucked again

game is also based it appears.

>>737095251
That hype niggers need the rope

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>>737096980
>people are still hungry for slop and always will be
so why don't they buy woke slop?

>>737095251
We can learn that making a good game means its going to be good. Making a bad game means its going to be bad.

When a game has:
Actual exploration
Some weird fucking sky puzzles that are impossible to solve without looking at a guide and half of your elemental move set locked behind them but the game not telling you this.
Even more exploration puzzles forcing you to visit various places to solve the initial puzzle.
GOOOOOOOOOD COMBAT
GOOOOOOOOOD GRAFIX
GOOOOOOOOOOD random shit to do farming/housing/ranching/camp management/seperate resoucres for camp management/sending your guys to build bridges/send your guys into wars/send your guys to do renovations for random shit which they do in real time and is kinda cool seeing them work like the slaves they are etc.
When the game has F U N combat which feels FUN.
FUNNY AUSTISTIC STRAIGHT WHITE MC
And when the game IS SO FUCKING HUGE SO FUCKING COOL. You know its going to be good.
Simple as

>>737104481
>Peak dishonesty

>>737106013
They did, just not enough
because Ubisoft spent too much after the success of Valhalla

>>737095251
Release an unfinished mess at full price, patch it later to look like a good boy, get money fuck consumers.

>>737095251
We can learn that brown shills are very cheap.

>>737096898
> You don't need fun and fair boss encounters
Uh oh, sounds like lil anon got filtered

>>737106183
The sky puzzles are easy. No guide needed unless your iq is below 3 digits.

>>737106346
And today on things that never happened

The game survived the journos and discord troons hate campaign.
You failed, you lost, now accept defeat and leave

>>737106346
The game was completely finished on launch, but they patched it later to casualize it for the smoothbrains.

>>737095998
That retard turns up in every crimson desert/marathon thread, make of that what you will.

>>737097478
Unironically better story and open world than crimson mid

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>be me
>maratrooning
>grooming kids
>browse /v/
>see crimson thread sold 5 millions
>kill self
its that easy

>>737106574
>Game survived the journos and discord troons hate campaign.

Just shows how impotent the word and reputation of game journos are nowadays.

That's with them being the establishment and backed by jews.

>>737095251
What success you retard? Want to know what success actually is?
>Pokémon Scarlet & Violet, 28.0+ Million 10 million in 3 days
>The Legend of Zelda: TotK, 22.4+ Million 10 million in 3 days
>Elden Ring 25.0+ Million, 12 million in 18 days
>Monster Hunter Wilds 11.0+ Million, 10 million in 1 month
Palworld 19.0+ Million, 8 million in 6 days
Know your place, smelly gook.

>>737095275
fpbp and I say this as someone that fell for the shilling. It's soulless attempt at merging Witcher and Dragon's Dogma but it fails at both.

>>737106575
Kek the game wasn't even playable on intel gpu, controls were dogshit, the ign review was right. Games revisionism is crazy, these days Cyberpunk is considered a great game just because they patched it until it was playable.

>>737106609
>Crimson keks are still seething about marathon

>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
That a game can sell without pandering to browns and AGP mentally ill subhumans who want to play dress up with their bimbo doll.
The white male protagonist should be the gold standard.

is base ps5 version decently playable?

>>737104481
>RDR2 invented maps?
The map style and icons are literally the same. They have giant question marks for discoverable stuff, exactly the same as Rockstar
>Not even going to comment on this one, what did you want? Press X to go walk forward and click R3 to turn left?
Yeah man they really had to steal mashing X to run faster, or make your horse run faster, or the exact same input delay for turning around, or holding X to pick up objects the exact same as RDR2
>RDR2 invented weighty animations?
Weird how you'd decide to have weighty animations in an action adventure game, suspiciously while copying various other elements from RDR2. Must be a coincidence that they both control the exact same way
>RDR2 invented trade goods? (Spoiler alert, they lifted this directly from BDO, which has had wagon trading for longer than RDR2 has been around.)
This is a complete lie. I'm talking specifically about selling wagons, not trading with wagons. The process to sell a wagon is identical
>lol, lmao even
why does an action adventure game require you to specifically pick up each individual item one at a time the exact same as RDR2
>Oh, I see I've been coaxed into a snafu
literally no defence for blatant theft
>Steal RDR2 hunting and compendium
>Halo invented FPS. Wait, wrong game.
same again, you have no defence for them ripping mechanics 1 to 1 from another game
>BOTW invented stamina?
No. Crimson Desert's system is identical. They can't put a single spin on it? They have to make it the exact same and slightly tweak the symbol?
>BOTW invented puzzles?
BOTW popularized physics based puzzles in an open world game, but regardless of that some of the puzzles are the exact same. pick up shape with physics gun and place shape in the right hole
>BOTW invented fucking PHYSICS?
BOTW and Half Life 2 don't have the same physics tools, they both operate different. Crimson Deserts operate identically to BOTW but with less variety funnily enough. Maybe they should have stole all of them

>>737095303
Korean games have always been better than Japslop

>>737104419
>I really don't care
enjoy playing the same games for the next 50 years then with no creativity like the original games that they're all copying their homework off

>Mario invented jumping, no one had ever jumped before that point.
>Zelda invented the dungeon, every single game that releases is either copying one or both

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>>737095251
>What can we learn from Crimson Desert's success?
That open world slop, full of brainless and mundane tasks, still sells well.

>>737095303
Tell me the last good game came from Japan.

>>737108723
The problem is that CD is very incestuous while not having its own identity, similar to all Ubisoft games after FC3 and other FOTM games that just take whatever is popular at the moment

it's literally one of the most slop dogshit games of all time, but go off because it has good graphics I guess, lmao

>>737095275
The real takeaway is that /v/ is an even bigger echochamber than reddit is now. So many people here plug their ears and scream that games will fail while being completely oblivious to the rest of the market, desperate to think their own tastes are the only ones that matter.

Hilarious what 4chan has become.

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>>737108861
>>737106824

haters flip flop between it selling well and saying it sold like shit because of elden ring. Latest Life is Strange pic unrelated.

>>737095998
Are you forgetting someone arround here that is doing his job for free?

>>737095251
That shitty games are gonna sell if they get astroturfed enough

>>737107649
Performance mode can't hold 60 fps and its just a raw 1080p output. Balanced (40fps) and quality (30fps) work good.

The game has many elements which are unremarkable if taken in their own right but which in complete combination with all others cohere miraculously and give a whole greater than the sum of the parts. If there’s a lesson then I suppose it’s don’t lose the forest for the trees.

>>737113289
This is a pretty good summary.

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>>737095251
here's hoping we get more games like this