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>literally gives you free shit
>extreme autismos scream and cry and whine and moan about how they dont want to use a different launcher
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Nice try, Chang.
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>>737096864
they killed james harding - exclusivity is not good.
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Epic shills have lost their mind. I downloaded Epic Games and checked out their free games and there was nothing there.
It is and will always be the Fortnite launch app.
These faggots invested so much into shills who tell everyone about free games, but they are so jewish they don't actually have the free games.
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>>737096864
no steam
no buyed
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>>737096864
>buy on steam
>get freebies from epic
>pirate from gog
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>>737097779
GOG was cool when it still was good old games. I remember how they promoted their pricing. "We don't do 1€=1$" and i remember how they had to back down from it. My account has over 200 games, most I already owned but I just wanted to support them and thank them for providing an option to get these games.
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>>737096864
I have not been given a single good game that I don't already own on Steam. Not one.
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>>737097962
Epic supports AI in gaming & is opposed to telling customers if it was used or not, i.e. go fuck yourself
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>>737096864
it's a nice free game launcher at least, but there really is no reason to use it over steam unless you REALLY want their exclusives, which at this point is only Alan Wake 2 now? which got me to buy, so I'll give it to them I guess.
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Any company that doesn't understand the importance of the shopping cart feature for online purchases is never going to be able to grasp any of the requirements to build their service into a market leader. What is worse is that they don't have to figure out what the market actually wants in terms of feature as Steam already figured all that out for them. You can't surpass another service that you can't even reach parity with.
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Timmy is a literal corporate kike who NEVER cared about gaming. He spent YEARS openly wanting PC gaming to die because he was investing into consoles at the time, and he completely neglected the games his studio made back in the day. When he decided to become a "savior of PC gaming" with his shitty store he promoted it in a highly corporate manner too: "please use our service because we give you free things and our competition is bad and evil, we will definitely be cheaper too!!!" then it ended up being a huge piece of shit.
Epic shills are just pajeets and console retards who don't know a single thing about the past of PC gaming, who Timmy REALLY is or why Gaben got to have his "monopoly" on PC gaming.
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>>737098996
Imagine having a platform so shitty people would rather buy the game on sale than claim it for free.
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>>737099130
>buy game
>launch game
EGS does just that and its great at it, you don't like it because it doesnt increase your Steam library by +1 and your transgender friends won't see that you purchased it in your activity tab
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>>737099235
I hate Epic because I know who Timmy is and that Gaben got to have his "monopoly" by being pretty much the only guy who took PC gaming seriously back in the 2000's and not hating piracy. Stay brown.
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>>737096864
I don't want to use the epic games launcher specifically because epic games pays publishers for exclusivity, introducing consolewars-esque business practices to the pc gaming market that are inherently bad for the consumer. Even if you can convince me that Steam does the same thing, I still won't start using the Epic Games launcher because I'd rather use fewer services that engage in this practice.
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>>737096864
>gives you free shit
>shit
>games you beat years ago are free now
Who cares? Playing Pragmata on Steam, btw.
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>>737099130
Imagine giving a shit about store interface for a singleplayer game where price is the only parameter that matters since you don't need any store features to play the game. Don't forget to blame politicians for being a poorfag that throws money away for no reason.
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>>737100026
When Epic Gay Store launched Timmy didn't even bother adding a shopping cart. Which meant that if you wanted to buy many games at once (for example, if you were planning to migrate to Epic) you LITERALLY had to buy games one at a time and then got blocked for "suspicious purchases".
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Never fails to be funny how Valve's competition and their slaves just DON'T get the idea of someome getting GOOD service and being satisfied with it which leads to a feeling of loyalty. Nope, you HAVE to use our shit service because what you're used to is LE BAD.
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>>737100119
>steam reddit defense force replies within minute
lmao bunch of cucks
>muh features
list features essential for singleplayer games
>muh shopping cart for migrating
Why would you buy games the second time retard? PC is not a console. The only point of shopping cart is mass-buying slop on sale you will never play.
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>>737096864
What's the point of free games if the program i have to deal with to play them is absolute dogshit?
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>>737096864
>literally enacts monopolizing policies and actions to keep games off of other platforms with exclusive deals
>be a total throat swabbing faggot and accuse the other store of doing exactly what you do with monopolizing, joining it with lawsuit trolling over frivolous Shit and continue seething to the point some of the most corrupt shithole cities suddenly join in because they want a piece of the pie you've been tearing your hair out over
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>>737100315
>PC is not a console
Yeah, that's the part Timmy got filtered by.
Also even the shittiest pajeet tier online store WILL have a shopping cart. But Epic Gay store refused to have it for MONTHS. Cope harder tim.
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>>737100327
Steam was steam because it had counterstrike. If Epic Store released around Unreal Tournament they would have a chance but they didn't.
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>>737096864
Every time Epic tries to push free things, it just makes people go buy them on Steam. That's what happened to Origin, Uplay, and the other launchers, and it's why they went crawling back to Steam while trying to use them more like access keys now to pretend it's still needed. It's not about "but ownership" or "but fortnite epic sucks", it's literally no one wants to juggle multiple storefronts just to play the shit they buy.
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>>737100905
Steam launched to act as DRM for HL2. To the ire of many. But credit where credit is due they did manage to develop the service to the point it became useful, especially once high speed internet proliferated enough that it was truly viable.
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>>737096864
Some people are mentally ill. You'll see people who buy the game given for free on EGS on Steam just out of spite. Tribalism of the highest order while in the end every launcher is garbage, including steam.
Give me back my .exe that can launch the game directly without having to open some "launcher software" and having to be always online for everything (mostly telemetry).
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>>737098229
Did origin give anything?
I still use it very often
Ubisoft gave away some cool stuff and it works fine
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>>737096971
I'm just drunk, tired and schizo enough to believe it even though I know it's bullshit
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>>737100315
>shills a store that offers nothing
>doesn't even have Pragmata
There's literally no reason to use Epic. GOGlems could argue "muh DRM free" even though it comes with massive downsides. All you can argue is "free old shit you already have" and "the developers get more of the money even though the price ends up being the same."
Who cares?
I can share my games with my family, stream games to my living room, play local coop online, and hack gamepad support in games that don't support it.
What can I do with Epic?
>download slowly
>use a disgusting launcher that makes me flip through web pages to browse my own library
>support a faggot who sold out to China
Sorry you got VAC banned from Steam and you can't access your knife skins to sell, but I don't care.
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>>737101720
The DRM free store needs faster downloads and to sell more games.
>>737101876
They still have shit locked to EA, but most of it's piratable, and the rest are just unnecessary bullshit tacked on to Madden and whatnot.
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>>737096864
Can someone explain to me how tim sweeney is so rich? Isn't he richer than gaben? How did he manage that? Epic came to the party super late and still doesn't hold a remote candle to steam
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>>737102026
How much can it possibly cost to license the unreal engine? I remember looking up who used id softwares brand new engine back in the day and the only companies that did shat out in total 2 shovelware games no one ever heard of lol. Isn't everyone using UE5 today?
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>>737102079
Guess I brainfarted, but UE did get their foot in the door as a competitor against Source before it largely became the only standing mainstream engine from the death of many proprietaries. Without that licensing they would've been dead in the water after struggling to make Fortnite for years. But yeah, the MTX money was raked in hand over fist when they did that one up.
>>737102225
>Unreal Engine is free to use for students, educators, hobbyists, and companies with less than $1 million USD in gross annual revenue. For larger companies (non-game developers) earning over $1 million, a subscription of $1,850 USD per seat/year applies. Game developers pay a 5% royalty only after the first $1 million in lifetime revenue.
Per seat is like, per employee I think. so if you had 300 employees that's like $555,000 annually. Maybe I'm wrong or I'm not actually looking at it right.
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>>737102254
I had ire as did many in areas of the world where unlimited high speed internet wasn't readily available yet. We were still stuck on dial up being the norm here back when HL2 dropped. It was a valid idea but ahead of its time and the infrastructure wasn't in place for everyone to consider it a benefit yet.
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Giving you free shit to get you in the door should always be treated with suspicion. It's literally what casinos and drug dealers do. If you're in a big city and someone is handing out free shit keep walking, do not even make eye contact.
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>>737101970
Kids stealing their parents credit cards and running up their phone bills to buy pretend fortnite money. That's it.
Unreal Engine licensing is barely a drop in the bucket these days, they don't actually make any of their own game anymore, and EGS has been a gaping money pit ever since it started.
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>>737096864
I agree. There's literally no good reason to not claim the free games. My Epic account is almost as valuable as my Steam one, despite having spent only 10 bucks and mostly playing Fortnite vs over 3,000 hours on Steam and probably more than 500€. Obviously the Epic account has more indie shit and old AAA games, but they've gifted a lot of really good games.
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>>737102462
When I went to Uni I was very naive, first time in a city. I was walking around one day and a gypsy woman gave me a free twig, idk what it was but I thanked her and walked off. I guess she must have wanted money for it because she came after me and grabbed the twig back, muttering something. I think she might have cursed me.
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>>737102969
She's homeless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KztNIg4cvE
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>>737096864
All the games I have on epic games are free games I got.
>abandon your 1000+ games on other platforms in favor of a monthly free game to start from scratch
People will stick with where they have the bulk of their games. Or they'll go with what's cheapest; that's why I use steam + gog for each their own category of games
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>>737102629
>Kids stealing their parents credit cards
That's a meme. Fortnite has some credit especially since Unreal Engine 4 sucked but AAA still kept releasing on that engine because it's easier to write on something you already know instead of inventing or training totaly new stuff.
UE5 was a gamchanger. I have at least 30 games on the switch with this fucking logo popping up
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>>737103119
I can't remember if it was the Apple lawsuit or another of Tim's retarded cryfests but one of them required Epic to show their financial records and it was there in black and white, UE5 contributes to maybe 10% of their revenue, tops.
All of their money comes from Fortnite, if that were to go under Tim would just sell the whole company to Tencentassuming they'd still want it
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>>737103062
Imagine playing a game on Epic. I have probably a few hundred (can't tell since you can't browse your library from the website like a modern store) free games on Epic, and 114 free games on GOG.
I actually bought the Kingdom Hearts Trilogy and Stranger of Paradise on Epic because they used to be NEVER EVER STEAM, but I can't be bothered to play them.
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>>737102982
>Family Sharing
Only one user can play the game at one time. GOG is better for this and it doesn't matter for free EGS games.
>Remote Play
Fair point but the discussion is about single-player games with no multi-player features.
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>>737096864
It’s called loyalty and reputation.
Most people would rather stick with something they’ve been using for decades and have a positive perception of than switch to something new that simply offers better deals.
That kind of customer fidelity cannot be achieved with money alone. You need time and consistency, without fucking it up.
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>>737103267
That reminds me, the Epic lawsuits also revealed that less than 0.1% of EGS accounts have actually paid for games.
Not only that, out of all the people that just use accounts to hoard free titles, maybe 1% have ever installed any of them let alone played them.
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>>737103146
It is literally just to try and cultivate a user base by registration of email addresses that it can further market to. By direct comparison of service between EGS and Steam no one with sense is choosing EGS where the price is the same or similar. It is exactly where EGS fails since it offers nothing that Steam does not, nor does it have any price difference significant enough to an existing Steam user to make the sacrifice of buying on EGS rather than Steam.
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>>737103397
To be fair some of that may be inflated by not only smurfers but bot lobby accounts, Fortnite just straight up gives players bot lobbies for the first ten levels and if you make a new account and party up with it, you reap the "benefits" too. There's so many bot account setups out there that anything would make the regular consumers look tiny. But probably all the better in proving to the execs and outside profiteers like Disney that Epic has their head firmly up their own ass about their own importance.
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People pretending that they miss brick and mortar PC game shopping are fucking delusional, or more probably not old enough to have ever actually done it.
It's 2004.
Looking for a copy of Mechwarrior 2, a game from 9 years ago? You're delusional.
You want the Warcraft 3 Battle Chest? Well, it's either $15, $20, $30 or $40 whether you're at Target, Walmart, Best Buy or Electronics Boutique respectively. Oh sorry we actually don't have any copies like we said over the phone, but we can order it for you in 5-11 business days for your money today.
Oh, the registration key for this copy of Final Fantasy XI has already been used because retailers would take returns and put them right back on the shelf as new.
Bite the bullet and direct order what you want online? That'll be $8.99 and it'll arrive the Wednesday the week after its released.
By the time Steam came out the process of buying specific PC games was such an interminable dogshit fucking chore that piracy was the unthinking default simply because it spared you multiple hour indignity of scraping around trying to GIVE cunts money for goods and services.
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>>737103508
Gabe was definitely right that piracy is a service problem, and expanding beyond that, consumers with the expendable income simply wanna fuckin consume with convenience. If there's a central service that provides, they'll consume. If they don't want it, or it's too inconvenient, they won't consume. It's as simple as that but people gotta make some gigantic mental gymnastics to understand somehow.
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>>737103508
While I agree that physical games are bullshit, I had switched to mail order back in the 90s. I ordered from these niggas for a long time until EB had a serviceable website.
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>>737102801
>there are many free gamepad mapping programs
And none of them are even comparable in terms of features.
>you don't need steam for that
No, but Steam is the only one that officially supports Linux. I know I could run games from anywhere through Proton, but I'm not going to pay if there's no official guarantee of support.
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>>737096864
every company today uses freemium to subscription model
after they realize it isnt working they inundate you with ads.
im okay with steam it's just a store that offers customers good prices it doesnt need to be more complicated
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>>737103646
WTF is Zelda 3
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>>737101834
>>doesn't even have Pragmata
Funny thing is Capcom put RE9 on EGS and you got a free skin in Fortnite with it. 52k people own that skin while tracking sites say it sold about 2.5 million on Steam lmao.
It's simply not worth putting your game on EGS unless you get a big sack of money from Timmy.
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>>737099235
So your strategy to convince people immune to social shaming through decades of exposure is to shame them? No actual human likes being coerced, and Epic doing the exclusive bullshit like with Hitman 3 and telling you to buy again H2 on their store for a "reduced price" (wow so generous, I get a discount on paying a second time for a game I already own) sealed the deal. It's a dogshit malware spyware app that possesses 0 feature not based on coercion or pathetic greed.
Games should only be acquired in 2 ways, bought on Steam or pirated, everything else is fake and gay.
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>>737101598
>in the end every launcher is garbage, including steam.
Let's pretend for a moment that this is true. If both launchers are dogshit, why would I want double dogshit on my pc? Your argument leads to only 3 conclusions, either only piracy, piracy and Steam or just piracy. Again, for service, you use steam, for price, you pirate, EGS has no place there.
>Give me back my .exe that can launch the game directly without having to open some "launcher software"
Piracy is incredibly easy, if you got filtered by that you don't deserve to play games.
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This one sentence permanently mindbroke Epic shills.
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Every decision epic makes is out of desperation to gain a customer base
All they have over steam is giving games away, they're worse on every other front so it's obviously going to be the only thing people will use them for
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>>737106961
You're right, 1 and V were free with Prime Gaming, but 3 and 4 were definitely free with just Origin/EA Launcher.
It was a few ago, so I've only been able to find the news in Spanish
https://www.ea.com/es-es/games/battlefield/news/trae-un-amigo-a-jugar- battlefield-4-gratis-para-pc-1
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>>737103508
This is why renting and trade-ins were the main thing around here up until mid-00s. If you like the game you bought just keep it, if not pay 1/10 of its price and get a different one. Obviously for this to work most of them weren't exactly legal copies but nobody really cared.
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>>737096864
I don't actually mind usingHeroiclauncher to redeem and play free games.
Just don't expect me to spend a single cent on the ebin store, timmy boy.
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>>737101970
>Can someone explain to me how tim sweeney is so rich?
FortNite, and that's it
turns out the best way to make a small fortune in digital distribution is to start with a huge fortune
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>>737103267
>games owned
steamcucks don't own anything, should be renamed to "game licenses rented"
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>>737102254
You are a dumb nigger. You are the dumbest blackest retarded gorilla nigger I have ever seen. I'm guessing you were born in 2004 or something.
Many of us old school PC gamers from the 90s still heavily resent steam(ing pile of shit) and prefer actually owning games rather than licensing the rights to access software. I have 300+ gog installers and at this point my steam library is at 4 digits, spread over 5 accounts. I managed to avoid it until a friend bought me team fortress 2 as a graduation gift. I still haven't played HL2 on principle. Kill yourself and leave this site.
As to the retards who say steam saved px gaming, it's like saying illegal immigrants saved the agricultural and construction industries. 95% of steam users are niggercattle I'd prefer never exist, and if PC gaming (happily "dying" since 1985) would be dead without them, then let it die. Fuck you. I don't want pc gaming to be another worse rework of counterstrike/dota/tf. But here we are. At least some developers are not total fucking faggots and I can just buy their game directly from them (Starsector for example); any time I have the option to play something not on steam, I do. But EGS, Origin/EA, Impulse(lol), are all somehow even shittier than steam. The only thing better is piracy and GOG or standalone installers/launchers, as much as I don't want 60 fucking separate launchers for shit. Remember the Bethesda launcher? Or shit like Warframe or PoE's individual launchers? The Riot games one? How many fucking gay launchers do you need? I bet you shit stains run all your faggot Blizzard games through Steam(ing pile of shit) now.
Have fun with your rape baby skinwalker, I'll be doing REAL PC gaming, actually running an .exe (OMG HE SIDE LOADED MASTER OF ORION 2 AND HOMM3 ONTO HIS LAPTOP) (actual quote from some zoomer at work)
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Timmy Tencent will keylog your shit and send it to China
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>Tim claims to want to support Devs
>Big supporter of Gen-AI/LLM stuff that will actively make Devs lose their jobs
>It's probably the reason Fortnight fired 1,000 of their staff recently
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>>737103267
>777 dlc owned
Do you feel lucky punk?
>Madden
>THPS remaster
>Daughter game
>>737103508
Should've just got MW2 with literally any graphics card in the 90s or one of its many battle chests.
WC3 / SC2 / SC:BW / WoW cards & expansions were one of the only things hanging on as the PC game section shrunk to nothing. >>737104958
>Simply not worth putting your game on EGS unless you get a big sack of money from Timmy.
It's actually still not worth it. Think of all the backlash from EGS exclusivity. A lot of games&devs have been basically shunned by steamies because they dated to take a giant pile of money and release somewhere else for a year. Rebel Galaxy Outlaw and MechWarrior 5 come to mind. Metro Exodus as well.
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They definitely gave away RA3 and some sims shit cuz I have that on my origin acc and never bought it
Ubishit has given away some far cry shit I got blood dragon for free for example and I think primal or far cry 2
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>>737110332
your game ownership, my liege.
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>>737097779
>financially supporting the judeo-amerimutt corporation
>pirating from the European one
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>>737111465
>epic shills are also retarded turd worlders who have no idea what they're buying then have a chimpout when told that in big letters
I assume retards like this thought Gaben was teleporting minature dvd discs into people's computers before he underlined what he's actually selling
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You're right, most major publishers pressured Epic into giving them extremely favourable deals- that was the real purpose of those brief in-house engine initiatives like EA had with Frostbite. Epic have to capitulate to them so much that there's actually years where UE, SOMEHOW, managed to be in the red for them.
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>>737103690
A lot of the time Disney paid them rather than the other way around, and as of like a month ago they're now an investor formally. The real place they lost money is acquisitions like the Fall Guys and Rocket League developers.
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>>737096864
It's very shrimple really.
Steam put a lot of work into dismantling the thing where every game had its own invasive DRM, had its own account system you had to register for and had its own launcher/updater due to how shit-scared publishers were of piracy because they saw one too many DVD piracy disclaimers.
I will not go to another ecosystem unless that ecosystem offers DRM free games where using the launcher is optional and I don't need to sign up for an account unless I'm actually buying something.
>But then it's just free games without DRM
Yeah... what's the problem with that?
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>>737110930
>Many of us old school PC gamers from the 90s
>GoG shill
lmao, like clockwork. Get the fuck outta here kid. Your devotion to "owning games" ends as soon as someone suggests you don't have to actually buy them to own them.
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