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Why does Owlcat take an entire year to release DLC for their games?
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>>737097893
cuz they feel like it

At work, do you hurry up and get shit done as soon as possible, or do you only make sure it gets done on time? If you don't work for yourself, then the former is for dumbfucks.
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Because it's usually pretty high quality.
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>>737097893
Because their dlcs don’t just introduce a dlc area that is completely separate from the rest of the game. You will get a new companion and class that needs to synchronise with the rest of the game
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>>737097893
Its hard work adding all those new bugs
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>>737099334
will they be adding any new origins?
what origin will you most be looking forward to?
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>>737098079
Was Lex Imperialis and DLCs for WotR high quality?
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>>737100684
Lex is fantastic and far better than Void Shadows
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>>737100712
I thought it was the opposite?
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>>737097893
A year for substantial DLC isn't really that long, huh
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>>737100712
>>737101015
Same
Even just story wise, i liked the climax and set up of kibbs more

Maybe i just didn't like idris elba
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>>737097893
>nuCrons
>no Ork
>no Tau
>no Kroot
>no demon gf
I am totally skipping this shit. The entire game was poorly executed tbqh desu
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>>737101225
The game is just a testbed for ACTUAL kinos for their Dark Heresy and Black Crusade games
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which companions do i take with me to the museum to piss trazyn off as much as possible
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>>737101015
Waifufaggot lies
Lex has very cool diverse Star Trek esque missions on completely new maps with completely different vibes. Like Feudal World or Warehouse World.
Void Shadows mostly reuses maps from base game and is stuck on your ship.

Void Shadows comes with Death Cultist companion, but there is no Death Cult Origin to play. Origins are extremely important and are part of character creation most responsible for reactivity and replay value.
Lex adds Arbites Origin with subOrigins. Arbites is the most fleshed out origin alongside Psyker now with a lot of reactivity and depth. Other Origins feel like some betatest compared to those two.

To make matters worse Archetypes Void Shadows adds are bland. And BladeDancer only fits unplayable Death Cultists or arguably at best Psyker. Marazhai isn't even updated to use it.
Overseer Archetype from Lex is a Psyker of Archetypes. It's the only Archetype with reactivity. It has 4 subArchetypes, meanwhile no other Archetype has such thing at all. Because of this it fits basically every character you would want to play.

Lex mogs Shadows so hard it's unreal
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>>737101225
What were old Necrons? Necrons before they became Tomb Kings in Space?
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>>737097893
do people ACTUALLY like owlcat games or do they just play them simply because there's so few crpg's around?
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>>737101567
Any time you hear babbling about OldCrons it's a DoWkiddie daydreaming. Especially funny since DoW Necrons talk and have personalities lol
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>>737101596
I genuinely do, they definitely are an acquired taste though

Not many games you can say that the 1.0 ver is a completely different version from 2 years down the line, endless amounts of support (whether that's a good thing or bad you decide but i enjoy playing more of what i enjoyed from them)
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>>737097893
i have a feeling this is gonna be the treasure of midnight isle for RT since it's called infinite museum.
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The infinite and the divine is genuinely funny
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>>737101596
They are fantastic so yeah
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>>737101537
>but there is no Death Cult Origin to play
There are two new archetypes though which are much more important than origins.
>Arbites is the most fleshed out origin
It is the only fleshed one because it is the only origin that acts as an archetype of its own, not even psyker does that.
>Void Shadows adds are bland
The fuck am i reading? Both archetypes overshadowed the fuck out of base game ones in both style and power.
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>>737097893
They probably have a very small team working on it while the rest are busy with other projects.
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>>737101785
Archetypes are very rough, very generic classes stripped of flavor which is normally attached to them in D&D-likes. Which is why in RT a Dark Eldar, Space Marine and some ganger can be all Warriors. It's Origin which actually makes them distinct. Despite this they managed to make Overseer unique Archetype with reactivity.

Origins are far more important because they are responsible for flavor and reactivity. Psyker works exactly like Arbites with abilities on his own. Void Shadows not having it is a massive mistake.

Void Shadows are Archetypes are bland I-win buttons.
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>>737101660
Wasn’t that just the pariahs?
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>>737097893
because most people arent going to play through the game more than once a year
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>>737102437
More than once, period
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>>737097893
What's up with Owlcat doing the same cuck romance in Rogue Trader? Why can't they give males a break and not be cucked for once?
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>>737102437
if a crpg has 0 replayability, it's going to the trashbin newfaggot
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>>737102548
that's not what i said.
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>>737097893
I'm new to Warhammer, how good is the lore and does the developer keep the game faithful?
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>>737102594
its pretty good.
from what i remember, they explain a fair amount of the setting in game too, so you shouldn't get too lost even if you don't know much about the setting.
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>>737102594
very good and yes
its also very "new to warhammer" friendly also
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>>737098035
>is for dumbfucks
Esp as owlcucks exploits Jr positions. Few seniors oversee armadas of newbs. The typical slavjank software firm.
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>>737098035
ironic, considering every single owlcat games is intended for dumbfucks
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>>737097893
they are making 4 games right now
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>>737097893
are they still making dlc for this? i assumed it was done since they are working on the expanse game.
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>>737102838
>>737102832
Thanks. I was curious about the game so I watched a bit about this God Emperor and it's edgey but in a good way. I'll probably play the game soon.

I just wanted to make sure that the developer did good with the lore because I easily drop games if the devs didn't stay faithful, it's an immersion thing for me, for any setting.
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>>737102938
theres two more expansions after this
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>>737103065
wouldnt be surprised if we get another whole pass t b q h

and i hope we do
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>>737103065
i am never going to play this game
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>>737103112
um, you shouldn't be surprised because I literally just told you that.
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>>737097893
>I want to get off Trazyn's Infinite Cube of Mega Rape
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>>737097893
So are they random roguelike bosses we vs or what
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>>737097893
I hope they add a proper romance this time.
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>>737097893
Would you rather they shit it out in a month?
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>>737102960
owlcat are usually pretty autistic about lore so you will be fine.
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>>737102310
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFE5ct0aiH0
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>>737100712
Why would you lie like this? All it takes is one look at the reviews.
>>737101537
>Feudal World
Some of the worst performance in the game, boring combat encounters and to top it all off you also have mandatory sections where you lose control of your MC because you need to lose a scripted fight.
>Warehouse World
You are literally there for like 20 minutes at max. The fight there isn't even particularly interesting cause its Act 4 and your builds can now faceroll everything.
>most responsible for reactivity and replay value
No offense but how many times have you replayed RT? The reactivity comes down to 1 or 2 lines throughout the entire 80 hour game. Its a big point of contention how little your origin matters and Owlcat themselves admitted they were suprised that people wanted it. Sure it has the most reactivity but that's not saying much given the competition. You replay RT for the convictions and narrative decisions/builds, not for the origin lines.
>Archetypes Void Shadows adds are bland
Arbitrator is fantastic but the new overseer class is bad. Your pets are useless for the most part aside from the raven which is used to aoe buffspam and the dog if you want to roleplay. Bladedancer and executioner were broken and insanely powerful but at least you had a reason to run them. The pets also couldn't be upgraded when the DLC first came out and only now do they have a conviction bonus where they change over time.
>Marazhai isn't even updated to use it.
Good, anyone who recruits that faggot deserves to have their save deleted.

Solomorne is also boring, the main plot about the arbitrators actually trying to backstab you and steal your shit even if you have fully sided with them the entire game is gay and retarded. The main draw of the DLC is the new ship you can get.
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Marazhai is /v/ coded
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>>737104536
>annoying faggot
he sure is
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Any recs for good metallic paints? I'm using GW and Vallejo and they don't look right
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>>737104284
>look at the reviews.
dollysmootching cattle writes them
>Feudal World
>Warehouse World
Fantastic aesthetics and interesting stories. Lex is full of unique and gimmicky fights.
>you lose control of your MC
Always great gimmick. Only getting captured and stripped off equipment is always cooler trope. Commanding separate squad of Arbites was also great, too bad that so short.
>No offense but how many times have you replayed RT?
700hours so twice. Owlcat said that they most likely won't bother with Archetypes since all possible archetypes are covered already, but will make more Origins. Museion dlc will probably come with Augmeticist Origin.
Convictions are badly designed and there are functionally only two in game and you mostly use options from both. Origins dictate theme of your character, enable reactivity and provide perks to flesh them out. They are the most important thing by far letting you play two different Dogmatic playthroughs for an example.
> overseer class is bad
Overseer is so good it's a waste to not use him. It has stupid amount of variety and possible cool and thematic builds for a variety of characters. Positioning Raven to either spread buffs or relying damage to enemies or even using Dog to chase enemies are very cool ways to play. Void Shadows archetypes are just I-win buttons and all about dealing massive dps which makes them insanely boring.
>Good, anyone who recruits that faggot deserves to have their save deleted.
Sounds like you aren't a roleplayer
>Solomorne
Dogmatard when we shouldn't have more dogmatards anyway. Not like kebab is any better. Both were a mistake
>arbitrators actually trying to backstab you and steal your shit even if you have fully sided with them the entire game is gay and retarded
It's not them actually. It's a grandma. It's also very cool and thematic politcal shenanigans for Rogue Trader. Genestealers were disappointing, especially their rebellion being just a random event in act 4
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>>737104284
I don't look at reviews because I'm not an npc, Thassera is kino and we needed more of that, you have shit taste
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Owlcat should make an aos game and make all companions elf waifus
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>>737105089
This but one girl per race except for the elves that are male
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>>737105168
>he wants a male elf companion
wasnt getting cucked by halsin enough? why would you want another gigachad to steal your thunder?
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>>737105089
You know Owlcat will just make cuck romances.
>she has a duty so she go marries and have kids
>she has orgies and fucks around
>she loves you until you die and then leaves, and most probably finds another person to fuck
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>>737101596
I like them a lot but to be honest only because they are the only wish fulfillment type experiences of their type in gaming.

What other CRPG do you play as a powerful leader with a lot of power? Tyranny perhaps which is coincidentally my fav obsidian CRPG.

I wish people realized this shtick and more CRPGs would be made around fulfilling this power fantasy. I mean why do you think grand strategy games are so popular? I'm pretty sure there is a huge overlap between the type of autist that plays paradox grand strategy games and the autist that likes CRPG power fantasies. Owlcat is the only studio to capitalize on it properly with all 3 games of theirs so far (kingmaker playing a king, wrath you play a literal god/demon, rogue trader you play as an independent captain of a fleet)
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necron girlfriend
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>>737101596
Source of image?
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>>737103065
What do you mean? There's only 1 DLC left after this one.
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>>737105242
No I just want elftards to get mad
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>>737103786
What edition is this codex from
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>>737101596
I thought RT is the first CRPG that owlcat has done right
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>>737101815
When that Tigerman DLc meant to come out again?
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>>737105398
3rd
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>>737105480
never hopefully
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>>737101567
Something that actually lived up to an alien race that has been dead for longer than humanity has been alive. Read the old stuff like I'm the 3rd ed codex, it's actually fun. Much more fun than Skeletor and Mum-ra slash fic that is the new stuff.
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dargonus party dlc when
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>>737106610
Copying Citadel dlc is old news
They should make tv-show style crossover dlc for Dark Heresy instead
One mission would be you only controlling your MCs from DH and RT
Other mission(s) would be having access to companions from both games
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>>737101596
I've completed Kingmaker once and Rogue Trader twice, I only liked Rogue Trader but it had a lot of issues.
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>>737097893
Still no release date?
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>>737097893
Trazyn should've been the focus of Darktide, and I will die on this artifact.
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>>737097893
The are working on adding more descriptive handholding. Total Jimmy Handholding!
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>>737100684
Yes. Just because it didn't have a waifu for you to jerk off to doesn't mean it wasn't high quality
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>>737104284
>bb-b-b-b-but muh paid shills?
Stopped reading right there lol
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>>737101596
I like them. They are far from perfect, or the best. But I enjoy them greatly nonetheless. I enjoy them more than some better rated and better performing games.
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>>737107698
he looks disgusted
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>>737098079
lol
lmao
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>>737101537
Lex is also a nigger with a pitbull so he's not better than anything and if I wasn't forced to keep him around for the DLC story I'd headshot him on first meeting like the psyker nigger
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>>737107963
i like the cut of your jib
who are the only worthy companions?
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>>737107771
you have to be really contrarian to pretend WotR's DLCs were good
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>>737101537
>Marazhai isn't even updated to use it.
Owltards are incredibly lazy. Expeditions: Rome has an option of updating one of your companion's class if you have the dlc, and that was some no name game that flew under the radar of most people. Owltards are trying so hard to be seen as the next bioware, but are incredibly sloppy and lazy with their work
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>>737108038
I'll give you wotr. Only the Last Sarkorian was high quality. The rest I could do without
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>>737108094
>but are incredibly sloppy and lazy with their work
damn, they really are the next bioware
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>>737108007
Anyone who isnt
>Idyra (headshot on sight)
>Jae (headshot on sight)
>Marazhai (literally named DARK Eldar)
>dognigger (forced to endure)
I've never done heretic so I can't comment on uralon but look like an albino nigger
For me it's Abelard, Argenta, Pascal, Kibellah, Ulfar, Cassia/Heinrix
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>>737108132
Dance of masks was better
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>>737108159
it was garbage and anyone claiming otherwise is a waifunigger so their opinion is irrelevant
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>>737100712
>Lex is fantastic
Anything that adds YET MORE mandatory scripted loss fights to the game is automatically shit. I genuinely don't know why Owlcat keeps doing this shit. It's like they get this neat idea, but have no fucking clue how to work it organically into the game, and then instead of discarding or reworking the idea, they'll just force it anyway.
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>>737108159
>one market square that you spend an hour running in a circle and buying stuff from vendors is better than an actual area with with branching quests and actual new stuff
masksniggers are so retarded
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>>737108148
>didn't shot yrliturd on sight
Opinion discarded
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>>737108210
>mandatory scripted loss fights
What are you even takling about?
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>>737097893
Is this the obligatory
>endless combat dungeon that everyone hates
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>>737108148
Hate Idira too
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>>737108289
They've said that they're not gonna do it anymore. And we know literally nothing about the dlc
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>>737108264
The first fucking fight against the jester where you get forced into a cutscene that bodyswaps you into the pitybait character.
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>>737108289
I hope not, I'm not going to touch it if so.
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>>737108187
you're mindbroken by waifugods
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Ever since I gave Argenta a Heavy Bolter she has become death incarnate and can solo the entire map.
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>>737108289
I think I'd enjoy a dungeon with some really meaty combat encounters a lot more in RT than I did in the PF games, simply because RT combat is just way more fun. RT makes you so powerful so quickly that the game never quite manages to catch up with you after a certain point, so having a dungeon that actually makes you use all your characters instead of just your always-going-first officer granting your most powerful member a zillion turns and wiping every encounter before even the first turn has ended, let alone the first round.
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>>737108423
>always-going-first officer
I don't use gs because it's boring
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>>737107542
> but it had a lot of issues
This alone will kick them out of the aa market
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I can't kill everyone during the first round because half the enemies are hiding away on the other side of the map
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>>737108785
If this remains the case after chapter 1 , you fucked up
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>>737108657
I'm honestly ambivalent about it. On one hand, yes, it's boring as hell. On the other hand, having your RT just roll the encounter on their own within basically a single turn is extremely satisfying. So the perfect level of challenge would be one that demands this level of power, but can also take it and hit back.
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>>737108842
Chapter 1 was more difficult than the rest of the game because everyone had shit gear
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>>737108942
Indeed, that is why I mentioned it's an issue after chapter 1
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>>737101537
>Star Trek esque missions
So it's shit, good to know
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What does Yrliet get out of triggering the other companions?
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>>737109367
She triggers half this board too, she's an expert
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>>737101596
Only Warhammer ones because I like the FFG system. Pathfinder sucks major balls on actual tabletop and that also reflects in vidya.
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>>737109367
The smug sense of self-importance that all elves crave.
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>>737109367
Sexual sadism, she's no better than the rape elf
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What'd you guys get?
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>>737107904
Just thinking about the genestealers infestation on my ship
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>>737097893
Because most of their team is working on new games and because at least as of now their DLCs have actually been really fucking good instead of lazy cashgrabs
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>>737101596
i looked for co-op CRPGs on steam, there was fuck-all except rogue trader, so i gave it a shot
its jank as fuck and the co-op is an absolute mess, but its also fun
this game was my entry to 40k
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>>737111604
>there was fuck-all except rogue trader, so i gave it a shot
Bro? Your bg3? Your Wasteland 3?
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>>737111658
played all larian games and wl3 already, forgot to mention
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>>737101662
>Not many games you can say that the 1.0 ver is a completely different version from 2 years down the line

releasing bare bones and bugged piece of shit games as a basis for milking infinite DLC treadmill is industry standard nowadays
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>>737111604
Pc principal, lol
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Is a chaos run in RT actually fun? Feels like there's not a lot of roleplaying opportunities that don't involve randomly killing every NPC you come across, in addition to being pretty limited in terms of party members.
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>>737112780
>Is a chaos run in RT actually fun?
No
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>>737111658
>Your bg3
>ugly pozzed gay porn dating sim
no thanks
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>>737113198
Well, that's nice and concise. Any particular elements that make being a heretic not fun?
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>>737113413
Yes. The game was not written with a heretic path in mind. It was tacked on at the last second, so it creates a gap between what you do and what ends up happening. There is no reason to pick any of the heretical options most of the time because they are lolsorandumb garbage.
>Lol, let's just send warp cirrupted grain to footfall. Why? Who cares lol, just do it
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>>737113676
to corrupt it? you picked the worst example to make your point
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>>737113282
Anon, romance is like, 2% of bg3, just like for Owlcat games
Now, the game is far from perfect, but come on, it's no dating sim
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>>737113750
>to corrupt it?
Why?
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>>737113676
Yeah, that's pretty much my impression from looking at the heretical options as well. I just wondered if maybe they open up further if you commit to the path, or scenarios you don't see on any other playthrough start popping up.
You'd think with Tzeentch being the big player in RT there'd be a more subtle and calculated corruption thing going on, but most of the choices seem to be an act of self-sabotage for shits and giggles, or some variation of "I don't like your face! Die!", which is just so lame.

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