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Maplestory Classic is getting a patch later tonight.
So far it's very close to vanilla beta, but with some QoL features and changes. People complaining about the accuracy.
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>>737098427
>they cant afford the claws because they're spending it on lemons and meat
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>>737098467
YOOOO ITS GOOD ITS ACTUALLY GOOD
https://www.twitch.tv/ereklo_game/clip/AffluentCovertLardBibleThump-5q 7WTdOxDps_VRxG
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Reminder (You) are not getting into the closed online test no matter how many codes they send out.
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>>737098514
There are people who return the shopping cart and who don't
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>>737098514
Give ME a code Stinkwell. I WILL use it.
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>>737098514
unironically just opening the beta would retroactively rape and kill the chinks who botted signups
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>>737098550
>check my middle school yahoo mail account for the 20th time today
>This is the only email i've received
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so like where do I farm at lvl 15
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Never really played Maplestory, might give it a try whenever I have the chance.
All I've read is that Mages are the only class worth playing and everything else is bad, how does that even work?
Legitimately asking, since I usually go for something that uses a bow or crossbow.
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>>737098821
Mages have always been the best farming class, but in OSMS they were dog shit at bosses. If you only want to giga grind then pick a mage. If you want to at least be somewhat competent at bosses that will get released later down the line then pick another class.
Also good luck being a bowman in Maple, it's all struggle.
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>>737098821
Issue is that 1st and 2nd job state/balance doesn't give the entire picture. Not only can things change from closed test, but when you put in 200-400hours into a character for the potential 3rd job release and even further down the line 4th job it changes.
Some classes could get extremely nice changes in their 3rd job that would change everything. But for now in the closed test, mages are doing the best. Other classes need higher level to get mastery to start catching up in consistent damage so mages might be something that fall down a bit the higher we go in levels.
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>>737098667
>mfw yahoo deleted my email account for no fucking reason (inactivity)
>mfw i lost my main email when my xbox was stolen and I couldn't verify it was me
>mfw I lost my main email again years later when for some retarded reason microshart syncs xbox account and email together and fucking deleted the entire email address and support told me theres nothing they can do
Been on gmail ever since.
It'll inevitably be phased out I'm sure as I'm sure they're thinking of ways they can fuck my ass
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Alright /v/, why is it called MapleStory?
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>>737098514
But I am in the beta. No Chinaman can gatekeep me.
>>737098667
Got plenty of those myself, too.
FWIW they didn't send me my code until a bit after noon yesterday.
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>>737098821
The best classes are relative to available content. Mages always had the best time in the early early days because there was only 2nd job advancement (mages had the strongest 2nd job), not a lot of bosses to kill so you mostly just grinded on mobs (mages handle mobs best), and they're pretty cheap to grind on (especially important on day 1 since you're starting completely from nothing, as is everyone else so no handouts). This closed test is replicating that basically one to one despite some balance changes. Once bossing becomes relevant and 3rd job rolls around mages will be balanced out better.
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>>737099664
even pretending to be a chick back then got me $50 worth of hair coupons and the poor guy never showed up in the guild again, he took his moms credit card
being an actual vagina holder is like an infinite money glitch
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>>737099664
>henehoes were actually real qt azns and now they're hags
Truly the greatest gift classic MS has given us
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>>737099532
Who?
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>>737099560
you mean juwia https://www.twitch.tv/juwia
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>>737099724
>being an actual vagina holder is like an infinite money glitch
It still is, if the armies of simps female streamers of current day are anything to go by.
It's a bit more difficult these days compared to back then though because most women realized they can weaponize their boobs and hips. Also trannies exist now.
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Is it a bad idea to grind to level 30 mage with lvl 1 Energy Bolt to get the support skills, or they don't matter? Do we know how much SP reset scrolls will cost on the real server?
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>>737100061
I know NX is free right now, but I'm talking about once the game comes out of beta. I imagine it'd be miserable getting to level 30 hitting that shitty ball, but if the SP reset scroll is like $30 I ain't paying for that shit.
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>>737099917
eh, pretty much always been the case afaik. The very top of viewcounts of twitch tend to be males. I suspect there's a whole bunch of women right in the middle of twitch's demographics with anywhere between 100~1000 viewers though and they probably have a much easier time escaping the 0~10 viewer wasteland than guys.
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>>737100028
No actual cash shop prices are known yet. Since SP resets, reset all of your SP my guess would be like 10-15$? Could be cheaper or pricier.
The thing is since there is likely only 1st and 2nd job on launch, this is exactly what they want. It's an easy way to monetize the 3rd job and 4th job as you would want to reset points from attack skills to passive/buffs as you get new ones.
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>>737100140
Max MP Increase, yes. The sooner you maxed it, the better off you would be. But unlike warriors, they also had an MP Recovery skill at 1st job which was frequently maxed out next for even further potion cost saving.
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>tfw no code
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>>737099664
Maple gf wasn't a meme.
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>>737100682
Lol, retards. People have been saying for two days now to play carefully and try not to use pots before Ant Tunnel training at around 20.>>737100739
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>>737100776
I honestly thought the physical classes would have a leg up against Magicians this time around because of the potion scarcity, since they can generally survive on basic physical attacks while Magicians cannot. But due to the fucked accuracy formula on top of magic still being cracked, it's just same as it ever was.
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Got to 15 so I can take a break. Enjoying it so far, its just like how I remember it. Not enjoying my ears getting raped when I hear somebody smith shit.
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>>737101314
It's not minmaxing, it's called being pragmatic and utilizing your kit properly.
>>737100872
If you remake as a mage you will find it's easymode.
Levels 10-20 is still the hardest part of the game by far. Once you're above 20 you enter the big boys club.
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How the FUCK do I build my warrior so I can actually shit shit while still doing damage. Tired of getting out damaged by mages 5 levels below me.
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>>737102120
I have been following this quite closely ever since maplecon. Back then my guess was around the anniversary so late april or during may as I still think it's kind of an obvious move to do something for classic during that moment.
Now I'm not so sure as there has been things coming from closed test that makes me think they still need more time. However seeing that they are already tackling these problems and to go as far as fixing them during the closed test gives me a bit copium that they aren't completely backlogged with numerous changes/adjustments. That and they might not be too hard or time consuming to fix.
I still believe around early may we are getting something as it would be around couple weeks from closed test which gives some time to go through things and having the anniversary date be something where you would bring a date, be it open test or launch seems like a very good timing in general.
Have to see what they do, but I hope for a fast launch as I want to obviously play, but also think the current momemtum from closed test is already good to keep up.
>>737102257
If you truly care about flexing try to snipe good names, especially 4 letter ones during launch. Those will go for hundreds and thousands of dollars much later on.
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>>737102297
If OSRS, a subscription based classic game that tried its damnedest to force LGBT+ values onto its playerbase, is still running today, Classic MS is definitely going to still be here 10 years from now.
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>>737102358
Because OSRS is an actual good game and they pushed out a lot of good content consistently?
Do you really see Inkwell and his fuckup Nexon NA squad doing anything of the sort considering that according to Nemi's linkedin page they have been working on classic world for over 2 years now and it's a complete fucking mess? Wizet made Maplestory in less time than it took for them to take their homework and shit all over it.
Also considering the only thing you mention is "LGBT+ values" that pretty much showcases that you don't even care if a game is good or not in the first place.
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>>737102415
I'm pretty sure there will be enough time in advance. Shadow dropping can work very well and doing so during the anniversary by saying like classic will be out later this evening could potentially work extremely well, but I doubt this.
I'm planning on playing a ton aswell as I have a lot of time and happen to really enjoy this game for some odd reason. Hopefully launch goes well.
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>>737102489
>it's a complete fucking mess
you are such a disingenuous nigger LOL the game is not only functional but the biggest gripes are all things that can be tweaked easily, they just need the feedback for it. what a rich irony it is to complain about other people not caring about a game being good in the first place when you just did exactly that. you're both niggers and you should be shot apart by a firing squad.
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>>737102489
the thing that autistic retards like you don't realize is the thing that takes the most work and time by far is multiplayer netcode. Everything related to gameplay is nothing compared to making sure multiplayer works smoothly.
Maplestory Classic can handle 200+ people on the same map without lag. In Wizet Maplestory this caused extreme lag, stuttering and crashing, and even more so on the java private servers. This would've taken a huge amount of time to optimize because it's using the same engine as GMS, but you still have to rewrite a lot of the multiplayer code and load balancing specifically for classic, especially since it's far more common for one map to have lots of players compared to gms.
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>>737103042
So you literally pointed out it's just the maplestory engine but then think they somehow needed to rewrite everything instead of you know, the fact all that work was already there made by the koreans? are you genuinely retarded? The fundamental core of the game is the exact same how the fuck does any of that need to be "rewritten" for classic. Do you think modern maple is a fucking 3d cube game or something?
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>>737103217
You are a complete idiot who doesn't know anything about netcode. EVERYTHING needs to be rewritten with a specific optimisation in mind, EVERY action in the game. You cannot just transfer the existing GMS netcode out because it's a completely different game with different stats, different gameplay dynamics.
Stop trying to talk about things you have no clue about you embarrassing dumbfuck.
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>>737103042
>In Wizet Maplestory this caused extreme lag, stuttering and crashing, and even more so on the java private servers.
This literally never happened and if anything the game became more unstable over time.
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>>737103326
Take your own advice then because again, is Maplestory now a 3d cube game suddenly?
Oh wait it's the exact fucking same game underneath but they just added more skills over the years. Did the makers of mapleland and artale and chronostory need to manually recreate everything from scratch too? No they fucking didn't because maplestory worlds already handles that for them BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME FUCKING GAME AND THE SAME NETCODE
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>>737103352
It's actually mind-boggling how stupid you are anon. Even though you don't know anything about netcode or multiplayer, you still blab like you understand it.
You are genuinely the biggest idiot on this website right now. Just kill yourself, nobody will miss a worthless piece of garbage like you who can't even do the tiniest bit of research.
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>>737103425
So somehow you are such an amazing genius that you 100% confidently know that the game made in the engine, made for maplestory, somehow needs to be rewritten just so it can handle maplestory?
Genuinely think using your 1 brain cell for once, holy shit
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>>737103352
>actually citing maplestory worlds
How are you this dumb anon? maplestory worlds has all kinds of limitations including player limits per channel. the netcode is not even close to the same level of complexity as something like gms.
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>>737103469
NTA . You're a braindead gorilla nigger. How the FUCK do end up thinking that something like netcode is trivial to solve when dozens of factors to consider.
You're medically a real retarded faggot. Just KYS.
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>>737103469
Notice how all you can retort with is comparing it to other versions of the game, but you can't actually delve into any detail on what netcode is. You know nothing about replication, load balancing, authoritative actions, RPCs, client-prediction, nothing. You're an utterly worthless piece of garbage idiot with nothing worthwhile to contribute, who thinks one game's netcode can seamlessly transfer to another. There's nothing to discuss with a complete and utter moron like you because you're just too stupid.
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>>737103559
>idiot is mindlessly comparing versions again with zero understanding of anything
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>>737103619
>who thinks one game's netcode can seamlessly transfer to another
Okay so then what is so amazing and such a revolutionary jump going from modern maple to classic maple? Again, is maplestory a 3d cube game now? how come you can't answer that? Is it because you might be wrong? Almost like classic maple and modern maple are literally the same fucking game but with different content?
Again, answer the question, is maplestory a 3d cube game now?
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>>737103656
there's honestly no point in explaining anything to a moron like you. For some reason you randomly think being 3D is relevant to this discussion. You just don't get anything and you never will, because you have an IQ of 60.
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>>737103692
So you can't even answer the question and in fact straight up don't even understand the question considering your comment, yet you genuinely think you are correct when you can't even answer such a simple question that even a baby could answer?
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>>737103757
I'm choosing not to answer the question because you've exposed yourself as being thick as a brick. Why would I waste time even going over the basics of multiplayer netcode to a subhuman idiot like yourself? You could easily look some of this shit up yourself but you would rather behave like the idiot you are here on /v/.
I'll say it one more time: EVERY SINGLE ACTION IN THE GAME HAS TO BE REWRITTEN FOR MULTIPLAYER, ESPECIALLY IN AN MMO ENVIRONMENT
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>>737103757
when the underlying data is different, yes you have to change what gets packed into bitmasks, what gets allocated in relevancy culling, etc. just because the games are similar doesn't mean you can copy-paste everything over, that's what jeets like you do
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Iron Arrow at 190% multiplier is kinda insane. It does some excellent damage on just two monsters. Hell, it looks like Iron Arrow is competitive with your single target skills on two monsters present if it's at least level 3 doing 241% damage split between two monsters compared to Arrow Blow or Double Shot being 240%.
On the flip side for Hunters you need level 21 Arrow Bomb to be comparable to the damage output AB/DS gives on two monsters present.
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>>737103825
Have you tried reading what I said in >>737103352
Did those people need to rewrite the entire netcode from scratch too? Because all of those worlds clients took way less time to develop than classic world did. Huh, almost like the netcode for classic maplestory already exists, because maplestory is maplestory and they didn't change the core of the game?
>>737103885
So your answer is that Maplestory is now a 3d cube game? Because surely if you actually played either game you'd realize they are literally the same core! But nah, Nexon totally had to rewrite everything for this revolutionary amazing jump in technology that is... removing skills and content from the same game...
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30+ year old maplers, how are your fingers and wrists holding up? I went strong for nearly 12 hours but had to call it a night after that.
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>>737100150
if they don't give free resets with expansions then they're going to have a riot, virtually every asian mmo knows better than to fuck with skill balance without giving out at least one "unbrick your build" token. even games with worse p2w than maplestory avoid that trap
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>>737104125
It's just really hard being a programmer okay? Everytime blizzard releases a new WoW expansion they have to completely rewrite the entire netcode from scratch just to support the new expansion. How could you complain about their games when so much effort is put into them?
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>>737104018
I'll be honest, defense ignore probably won't matter outside of bosses since it's at a 1/5 shots to trigger. Maybe I'll be wrong, but if I am then it'll only matter on high defense mobs like level 80+ mobs. We have to see what the Classic team does for level 80+ training areas since training from levels 1~75 is radically different from levels 80+ due to monster HP, defense, and damage they deal. We don't know if they're going to keep high level content like that or alter it like they changed the HP/EXP ratios to Tauromacis and Taurospears. If level 80+ mobs will have high defense then the defense ignore will help while mobbing on them since their defense was considerable enough to see your damage reduced.
There's also other factors as well like damage reduction level difference formula as well.
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>>737104265
Anon, it's time to stop.
Swallow your pride, accept you're pretty dumb, and stop trying to talk about shit you have zero knowledge of. Classic is a completely different game to GMS but your small brain still refuses to learn.
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>>737104378
So your answer is that modern maplestory looks like this picture? Huh, I must have just imagined then that it's possible to go into Zakum JQ in modern maplestory and it controls and functions exactly the same as it did back in the original maplestory!
no that can't be, surely it's not possible that such black magic was made by the developers, they must have recreated zakum JQ from scratch with every single update that maplestory has ever received! That perfectly explains everything!
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It's absolutely crazy how feral people are going for codes. I got one and actually had to debate playing because that shit could pay half of my fucking rent for this month. Used it though but damn, I keep second guessing myself, feels awful to not be able to enjoy because there's a serious financial incentive not to play lmao
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>>737098514
>Didn't get a single invite
>But key sellers get thousands
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>>737104324
I'm hopeful it'll be useful in much later areas and bosses, aye. It might just be a complete let down, but that's something I'm fine with. Mainly just looking to play something I haven't and hopefully they'll make it a bit interesting where it would actually matter as I'm more of thinking about the later levels when it comes to this passive.
I'd really love to see it be a noticeable change if it does trigger when piercing through beefy enemies.
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>>737098681
>Nexon went full retard
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>funding
Thats zoomershit, back in 2006 we just played the fucking game.
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>>737105026
No we didn't. My advice is from the GMS MapleStory beta. Even as a retard who was new to MMOs, I understood that I ran out of money, so I made a I/L mage because I saw them farming pan lids in that screen left of Hene.
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>>737105026
no, in 2006 you sat around henesys not playing the game because you had no funding to afford pots, lmao
that's why like 87% of players never hit 2nd job, much less any further, according to nexon's own stats (Which they published after the 10th anniversary for pre-bb vs bb)
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>>737105389
Why is this zoomer trying to larp as someone who played MapleStory? What would even cause a zoomer to do this?
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>>737098249
Would be sick if I could get this working on my AYN Thor when it releases. Then I can chill in bed and grind away.
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gotta admit, nu-maple is good and fixed most of the old problems
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>>737107453
everyone loves Lucid...
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>>737107560
don't have to when you keep biting your tongue trying to say classic is good
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>>737107607
don't bully them, classic is fun for a couple weeks or months at least
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>>737107650
That's just her desperation move, it's just like my japanese animes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ7odc3Cf10
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>>737109168
No shit retard, why are they still being mad 3 days later?
>>737109184
and they said they were going to communicate more on GMS, and add tespia for the west, and have more GMS exclusive updates and content, and fix bugs and not commit bait-and-switch marketing fraud.
Here we are.
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>>737109391
you can't trust anyone who works at nexon
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>>737109184
>Inkwell said
Look at this gullible idiot.
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>>737110136
>pirates are classic
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>>737110197
Orbis and ludi aren't classic either then with that logic
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>>737110405
Everything before BB is still classic
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>>737111563
no, I think that's stupid too because it ruins the maps made to have slight platforming in them to navigate to new areas. The maps outside of henesys are a great example of this, and it gets fucked by down jump.
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>>737111572
Potential got added like a couple months before big bang so that's basically semantics
Anyway, they already showed that Balrog is likely being added or part of a questline and that boss wasn't added until past Cygnus Knights came out
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I wonder how accurate the formulas are. Looks at it weapon attack from gear outside of your weapon/stars/arrows isn't calculated into the weapon attack variable and will only show up in the attack power variable. So does weapon attack on anything like gloves/boots/cape/earring/helm/top/bottom/overalls count as just attack power rather than weapon attack? Apparently attack power from something like Rage isn't very impactful towards your damage range. If this is the case then weapon attack gloves might be significantly worse than gloves that increase your chance to critical.
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>>737111892
Another thing that is vague, for weapon attack it says BASE damage of the weapon. So does that mean weapon attack gained from scrolling the weapon will only show up in Attack Power rather than being counted towards your full weapon attack? People are going to need to have scrolled weapons and possibly even gloves with their damage range to see how everything lines up. A lot of people have been going around with clean gear so I don't know if many people can offer such things.
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>>737102882
I dunno, I was optimistic but you say the biggest gripe is with things that can be easily tweaked and just needed feedback i.e. accuracy formula, especially on 2nd job advancement for jobs like archer, but isn't that specific gripe immediately obvious?
How don't they have a parallel instance of the game to test and immediately catch the avoidability or level (whatever the culprit seems to be) of the mob to cause so many misses to occur instead of opening a 5000 players closed beta to tell them that, seems kinda weird imo.