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Mahiru has to be the protagonist because.........why exactly?
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She needs more screentime.
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She already looks like one
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>>737117081
I doubt they're doing the protag swap twice in a row. I like to think she'll be the new heroine character.
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She has the hottest pantsu
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BEGONE DEGENERATE MALE!!!
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>>737117081
because redheads are the new hotness
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>>737120867
My pet peeve with the fandom is how wide-spread is the idea that Tenko is actually this competent fighter alongside the other combat oriented ultimates. Completely misses the nuance that she:
>practices Aikido, the most popular fake martial art
>practices an even faker version of this fake martial art
>how this relates with the larger themes of the game
Tenko is gap moe, not strong woman.
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>>737121647
congratulations, you have finally become an adult
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Does 2 have more likable characters than 1 did? Cause I didn't really like anyone except Kyoko, Hina and Byakuya. Everyone else was an annoying asshole.
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That's good, kinda diminishes the worry of who's gonna die next when they're all assholes who you don't care about dying or obvious main characters who you know for a fact are going to make it to the end.
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>>737123034
If you're not retarded you figure that out in the first 5 minutes anyway. There are a couple of other twists, but overall I don't think the game is worth playing in general. The series peaked with the first game.
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Ok I started it and yeah you aren't lying it really is obvious 5 minutes in. Well thanks for the answers anons I'm leaving this thread now for obvious reasons.
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>>737125727
I didn't like the gameplay, but shit like this kept me playing
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Cool, it's like 80% off so might as well.
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If someone’s 2x2 prediction has both Gundam and Peko as part of the survivors you instantly know you’re dealing with the most retarded type of fan imaginable. Bonus points if they also include one of the more obviously popular characters like Nagito, Chiaki, or Mikan, or they have Teruteru dying in chapter 1 again.
Yes, little Timmy, I’m sure Sonia WILL kill Kazuichi this time around, making for the most obvious fucking solution to a trial ever. You’re so smart.
These people are incapable of conceiving of anything shocking or unexpected happening in this fucking mystery game. All they can think of is le epic parallels with original survivors and their favorite precious little scrimblo finally getting a chance to live to the end. Get real.
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>>737127701
I mean, I'm pretty sure V3's case 3 was a double murder just because people didn't expect for it to happen AGAIN.
Teruteru dying again doesn't sound too crazy to me considering he is wildly unpopular and doesn't have any fans.
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I don’t understand why people think we’re gonna switch protagonists.
It’s one thing to create a new divergent story, but the entire setting is not going to change. It’s still going to be the be the neo world thing. How do you sell that final dilemma if you remove Hinata from the equation?
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>>737127849
I’m not saying Teruteru won’t die now. I’m just saying it’s stupid that people think he’ll die first again because he’s annoying as if annoying characters don’t consistently make it into the late game all the time.
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>>737128542
I can see that happening too. It’s only when I see it in combination with a bunch of other stuff that it starts getting on my nerves.
Like yeah I’m sure all your favorites will live to the end and all your least favorites will immediately die and the game will be the comfiest more frictionless killing game ever. That’s such a realistic prediction.
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>Hinata
>Yumeno
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>Hinata
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I played the zetsubou translation and the other two with Japanese voices
Whether the first or last name stuck with me is sort of random
Meme away, Hinata also sounds way cooler than Hajime (and sounds less awkward when spoken in english)
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>>737130984
I don’t think he’s a detriment to anything. Akane sucks whether Nagito takes center stage or not
Jokes aside though I do wonder why they include these retard characters. I get there’s some gameplay utility with someone being dumb, but Akane, Gonta and to a lesser extent Yasuhiro are just awful. Their retarded tangents add nothing 9 out of 10 times and it’s almost impossible to take them seriously as characters when they seem to have the awareness of a stunted child.
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It's kinda crazy how if Nagito wasn't in SR2, everyone would consider it to be the weakest game if the trilogy.
I'm glad he exists mind you, but there would be no conflict without him and nobody to progress the plot forward.
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I love Chiaki.
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>>737131586
The craziest shit ever is that in an alternate universe Akane was the game's Nagito.
She was the one behind 2-5.
She possibly became one of the most popular characters in the series for being an evil hot girl.
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I said it was him to a lesser extent yknow. He’s like the border, any dumber than him and your character gets really obnoxious. You know Soda is kinda like him, a little smarter, but serves the same kind of role, and he’s fine. But Akane is dumber and she’s awful and Gonta is even dumber and is a disaster (not helped by the translation making him a literal caveman)
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>plot is hugely overcentralized on hopeman
>atmosphere is absolute caca
>setting sucks cocka
>50% of the cast members are one-note-gags
>music is a downgrade from dr1
>2-2, 2-3, 2-6 are abysmal, 2-4 is only decent in the pre-trial part
>worst survivor cast in danganronpa 1 to 53
>incel protagonist
>junkoland
the "sdr2 is the worst danganronpa" club is taking members again for anyone interested
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>>737131693
I don’t mind talking about flaws but I don’t think most of the stuff people commonly bring up is valid lol
My main gripes with 2:
>Hinata’s fixation on Chiaki seems unearned, you sort of work together on one case and exchange two (admittedly heartfelt) lines in front of that death door and suddenly Hinata can think of nobody else? I didn’t feel that strongly about her and didn’t see anything that would justify Hinata’s feelings, so his final thoughts being on her felt unearned
>the dilemma of the final case gets resolved in a pretty asspull way, which is extra frustrating because it is probably the best dilemma in the series
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>>737131985
except anyone above 80 IQ knows that the only reason the characters are said to be alive at the end is that they will end up fine, otherwise they'd be declared dead instead. i'm pretty sure it's even confirmed in the shitty anime, not that you'd need the confirmation because it's obvious
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>>737131990
Maybe if Fuyuhiko dies early enough they’ll be able to write her new freetime events with that in mind and take it in a romantic direction. If he lives any later than chapter 2 it’s probably impossible.
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I played 1 when it was just a PSP fantranslation and it was so bad I almost dropped the series there.
>all cases suck
>all characters suck
>survivor cast is straight up garbage
All it had going for it was the atmosphere, music and executions, 2 was massive improvement in almost every single aspect.
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I did the same and it was complete and absolute kino sucks for you that you're a soulless golem kek
>playing dr1 totally unspoiled in 2014 with the project zetsubou translation on me psp wrapped up under me blanket while beautiful dead is blasting through me shitty psp speakers while walking through despair academy
Nothing like it since I'm afraid
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Yeah I'd agree with this too, DR2 is the Nagito show but if he didn't exist there'd be somewhere else to fill his role.
Chiaki in general is just kinda in the background so unless you do her free time events it's kinda forced, and It is a shame how the entire premise of the climax is done by "Hajime goes super saiyan blanco and yells hopes a million times"
Hajime in general feels like an character that didn't earn a single thing.
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Togami is based
Aoi is cute and nice and has big boobs
Fukawa is alright
Yasuhiro is whatever
Weakest survivors are in 2 which pains me to say cuz Fuyuhiko is one of my absolute favourites. Akane is awful, Soda is whatever, Sonia is barely better.
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>massive improvement in almost every single aspect
>on the meat bone
>gravel swimsuit
>despair disease
>camera angle
>octagon
>AI junko
>hajime saying fuck hope and fuck despair just to pick hope anyway
>rebuttal showdown
>"improved" hangman's gambit
>panic talk action
here's another (You)
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dr2 is weird because it has the worst cast but the best trials, so while im not emotionally invested I still had fun figuring everything out. Its the opposite of dr1 where most of the cast is likable but the trials are dogshit easy
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You can infer they’ll be ok eventually but there’s no way of knowing how long it will take and they’ll still be completely fucked up even if they do wake up. It matters because the survivors now carry an immense burden for the sake of their friends and even the victims will have to live with the consequences of the simulation and their past actions for the rest of their lives.
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I will always defend gravel swimsuit. Aside from being a common mystery trick, the first game had a murder weapon which was a bundle of arrows taped together. “Bunch of small shit packed together to whack someone over the head” is not a new or unreasonable concept
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2's cast is complete fucking garbage man. Half of them are extremely forgettable and not even mildly important. THH's were at least somewhat likable and V3 dogwalks 2's cast so badly it's a little comical
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She actually loves me in the new game that's coming and it gets confirmed that Hajime is a faggot.
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Hajime and Makoto are just self-inserts anyway
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>The tonal dissonance of the tropical island setting
This presupposes that DR2 has a somber/sinister tone to counteract the tropical setting which it doesn't, DR2's tone is fucking garbage KEK it doesn't even take seriously even slightly.
DR1 mogs so hard with its claustrophobic atmosphere conveyed both through the story and the setting it isn't even funny.
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>Retards filtered by V3 kino
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>11037
>best case quality on average
>Celestia's pants on head retarded case
>best case quality on average
>Aoi's pants on head collective suicide case
>best case quality on average
>arguing with Weedman for 20 minutes about ghosts no being real
>best case quality on average
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I don’t get these arguments.
I like all three games, I think they’re all great. They all have things they do best. If you want to make it a competition, at least have a little substance beyond “aaaah everything sucks”.
Love, love!
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It always gets me whenever somebody's prediction is that Hiyoko and Mahiru will both survive and all of the characters Hiyoko hates most will die in the first 2 chapters.
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>Danganronpa 2 is the most popular entr--- ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
https://steamcharts.com/app/413410
https://steamcharts.com/app/413420
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>bitches still getting filtered by the Frank Sahwit tutorial case that wasn't meant for an overseas audience
>singling out 1-3 when every third case in the franchise is omega ultra retarded and 2-3 is way worse than 1-3
>singling out 1-4 when 1-4 is fucking based wtf is wrong with you gay ass nigga
>singling out weedman's kino comic relief ghost mkoment
Youse a gay ass nigaa and that's final next time you better come correct
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V3 ending schizo theory that's been in my head since I finally played it last month:
>Takes place in the same universe as 1 and 2
>The cast are actually Class 79, the class that was supposed to come after Makoto's but didn't because of the tragedy
>Talents were suppressed by the Future Foundation to protect them but they were found and kidnapped anyways
>They weren't brainwashed with new personalities but just had their talents reawakened because artificially inducing talents without a lobotomy is NEVER shown to be possible
>Game all takes place in a virtual world that basically serves as an underground red room/ snuff show with tech reverse engineered from the neo world program
>Tsumugi was brainwashed into being the Mastermind
I will not be qualifying any of these assertions
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I honestly don’t see that one as often, at least in combination with a lot of other common predictions. The whole reason I wrote that is because I saw someone’s prediction with Nagito Mikan Peko and Gundam as survivors so they were on my mind at the time.
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>>737132907
What part of
>(You)'re a sick fuck for wanting these fictional characters to die!!
is a love letter?
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>Hinata
>Kuzuryu
>Pekoyama
>Hagakure
>Soda
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>Togami
>Fukawa
>Soda
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>I saw someone’s prediction with Nagito Mikan Peko and Gundam as survivors
90% of the predictions I've seen have Hajime, Hiyoko, Peko, Nagito, and Gundham as the survivors, with one of them occasionally swapped out for Mahiru
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>>737133372
>People talk about 2x2 like Hiyoko's potential survival is one of the main draws.
>implying best girl surviving isn't
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Hiyoko will carry on his legacy of being best survivor don't worry
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>>737121647
It's actually insane amounts of ludokino because replaying the prologue with the context of the game reveals that Tsumugi is literally just lying her ass off about everything. The game doesn't hold your hand and will let you come to the totally wrong conclusion by just accepting the ending at face value
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Ignoring the fact that the twist in a vacuum is already poor enough, it's also terribly executed, V3-6 is one the most bloated piece of shit case in the franchise bar none, the trial alone is like five hours long kek
Tsumugi placed last in V3's first popularity poll and she's the frucking mastermind, V3's last third is best treated as non-canon and then V3 is a pretty good game
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The other two games have better tutorial cases so that's no excuse.
V3-3 may be have been retarded but it was a good case, 2-3 was nowhere near as bad as 1-3 since at least the culprit wasn't bafflingly obvious and didn't rely on Hifumi going along the shadiest murder plan ever that is full of holes for the dumbest reason(and wanting a vampire harem manages to be as retarded as the despair disease)
1-4 was fucking dogshit and ruins Aoi, and afterwards everyone forgives her for actively trying to get the entire cast killed over hurt feelings
Weedman is fucking dogshit, not even Akane hijacked a trial with her retardation as hard as him.
DR1 does NOT have the best case quality on average, you just played it when you were young and retarded.
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I love Kaede. That is all.
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Guys I’m getting delusional, I’m thinking the divergent story is gonna be full on DR4. It’s gonna be something totally new that actually drives the overarching story forward beyond just being 2 with new survivors. It’s gonna pick up the stuff from V3 and include some meta commentary about the cannibalism of franchise remakes.
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>The other two games have better tutorial cases so that's no excuse.
Yes that's an excuse because those are sequels you gay ass nigga, Ace Attorney 1-1 did the exact same thing.
>V3-3 may be have been retarded but it was a good case
FUCK no
>2-3 was nowhere near as bad as 1-3
DOUBLE FUCK NO
>1-4 was fucking dogshit
Now it's getting sad
>Weedman is fucking dogshit
Gaynon is now entering orbit
>DR1 does NOT have the best case quality on average
Gaynon has exited the galaxy of good taste and fully settled in the Danganronpa 2 galaxy
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>>737133867
What are you smoking? There are so many people who feel bad for Mikan and want her to live. She’s also so popular that even to this day she’s getting merch right alongside characters like Nagito and Chiaki.
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>>737133958
I'm going to be completely real with you, I actually never gave a shit about the mystery solving part of the series at all and mostly just tolerate it because I like the characters a lot. If the whole series was a shitty RE4 clone like UDG I would genuinely be extremely okay with that
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>calling Weedman bad makes me gay.
You are straight up fucking retarded.
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Mikan should die INSTANTLY so cuckfags lose.
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This is the weirdest thread ever
Why can't fans of a series just be fans of all the games in the series? Why form tribes?
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If you would kindly refer to >>737133970 thanks
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I am probably the only human on earth with this opinion but as a /k/fag I wish we got to see an actual Ultimate Soldier goon rather than just some background bitch who dies immediately and was never interesting in the slightest
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Please listen to my Schizo 2x2 theory. I have DEFINITIVE PROOF that the new scenario will NOT take place on the Jabberwock Island we know.
If you look at the Nintendo Direct reveal trailer you’ll see that Hajime has full 360 movement on the map screen despite the fact that every island is just a circular path with places of interest branching off to the side. You can even see him moving slower because he’s running into the side of the path instead of walking along it normally. They could have just had Hajime run along a set path like the original, so why didn’t they? It’s because the new scenario will be in a new location with a new map that necessitates this new movement style. This is what the boat will be for. To take the cast to this new setting. They’ll find the boat early in the game, maybe the first murder will even happen aboard the boat, and then the rest of the game will take place somewhere else.
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>covered in tacticool gear
>wears a mask, face hidden
>thanks to the mask and their muffled voice you can't even tell their gender
>salutes all the time, autistically follows military etiquette
>just stands there until given orders
>cute girl under the mask, is a total mess when she can't hide under it
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The funny ones, kinda, depends on what you consider tropes I guess. Hyouko is funny because she’s shamelessly mean. Miu is funny because she’s extremely vulgar, yet personally shy. Are these tropes? Not really, I guess Miu could fall under gap moe but that’s a stretch.
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Maybe
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>>737135210
I didn’t mean literally the same set up, I meant him still running along a automated path just with a top down view. There’s no reason to allow you to just run sideways into a wall unless they create a new, more open map without narrow pathways.
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>>737135264
Kusogaki is a personality type, not a gimmick
A caveman can be an asshole or nice
A fortune teller can be an asshole or nice
A guy who has to shit can be an asshole or nice
Hiyoko is defined by her personality
They are defined by their gimmick (except Gonta is actually still a good character and I like him)
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Sonia has extensive military training and has survived multiple coups, if you take her one-off lines about her kingdom seriously. I think she mentions something about it when they unlock the section of the island full of military vehicles.
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I thought he was funny.
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Best boy
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>>737131349
Hagakure is funny and Akane has a huge rack. I can't really defend Gonta, even if I liked Kokichi yelling at him for being a retard in 3-4.
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Mikan!!
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>>737135895
Basically one of the VAs (incidentally the one with by far the least voice lines) hit on a girl five years younger than him, the main people on the team knew about this but didn't bother doing anything about it because they didn't want to rerecord four minutes of dialogue. Five years pass, then all of this comes out, a big stink happens, nearly all of the voice cast walks out and most of the rest of the team does too, and the project is dead before even reaching Chapter 2 after six years of work.
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How hung is he?
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>>737136102
You’re pissed? I’m surpassed anyone was invested.
I was mildly interested when I saw it popping off xitter, but I would never want to play only one intro chapter, figured I’d wait until it’s done.
So much for that. Time successfully saved.
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>>737136078
why would they put so much effort into something but make it just a fan thing? they're not even calling it dagnanronpa. Its all original characters so if they really wanted to they could make their own game, its not like spike owns the rights to class trials. it just seems kinda weird to me that you would work so hard on something with a big team and not get any money for it. I'd pay for edens garden if it was completed.
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Well, not 6 years for one chapter, but 6 years for the project as a whole at that point and they only completed Chapter 1. God only knows how long the whole game would've taken.
And it was very ambitious, probably the most ambitious fangame anyone's done for Danganronpa, basically trying to match the scope of an official games. They even got a live orchestra to do the music and were also working on a musical on the side of all fucking things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD8U8h93TPE
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>Hagakure
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Imagine how huge it would have to be to just mind break Mondo.
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>>737136289
They already removed Danganronpa from the actual title, they probably could've changed it just a bit more and sold it as an actual game. There's a game coming out right now that did that.
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>>737135780
I can’t think of something I’d rather watch less than Game Grumps playing Ace Attorney or Danganronpa.
I thought JohneAwsome’s playthroughs were pretty good. If you want something a little more obscure check out the Bittersweet Gamers. They can be a little much at times (a bit longwinded) and they’re probably not for everybody but it’s part of their charm and I like them. They really pay attention and theorize a lot so they’ll catch some things a lot of people wouldn’t or go off in crazy directions with their theories. They’ve retired the channel for a couple years now but they’ve basically confirmed without outright saying it that they’re coming back for 2x2.
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I feel immense satisfaction when American projects based on Japanese properties fall apart.
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>>737136490
They're "Absolutes"
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Will check it out, thanks
Years ago I watched trump (the hearthstone steamer) play through the series and that was a great time. It’s not easy finding cool playthroughs because you need to be just competent enough to not get stuck, but not too competent to see everything coming and be bored. You want to be invested enough to care about the drama, but not super invested so you can’t see the humour in it. And playing with JP audio is a plus.
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Incidentally it's her birthday.
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How does 2 do both of those?
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>>737136893
Is it worse than these?
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>watch the trailer
>"hey this loos ni-"
>deck builder and wario ware for some reason
FFS, I just want a good old fashioned Dangan. At least the fatty is cute >>737136550
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>>737136723
you'll be reading through dubtitles anyway, might as well watch someone japanese play it if it's that importantif you do and can stomach vtubers i recommend oozora subaru and ange katrina playing 1 and 2
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Why do DR fangames always look like "that"?
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>>737137178
>wario ware for some reason
For some reason after Wario Land got a bunch of indie games inspired by it, Wario Ware became the new thing to make indie clones of even though they still make Wario Ware games.
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>>737137348
creative bankruptcy
see if I (extra emphasis) created one, all the designs would be good, all the characters would be kino, and it would be the greatest piece of fiction ever created
unfortunately I can't draw and I'm lazy so the greatest piece of fiction ever will never see the light of day
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>>737137520
I... I figured it out! The culprit is---
WAHAHAHA! HAVE A ROTTEN DAY!
>Complete Microgames so you don't slur your words!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2cvWQEKQSJk
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on xitter you're only going to find minors who don't interact with the series's media, they only watch tiktok edits
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>>737138101
Unsettling to remember that there are people posting in Dangan threads who aren't JUZOBOYS
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alot of people ship Hajime and Fuyuhiko, so I don't see a problem with Hajime and Peko. It always felt strange to me that she was the only one you couldn't romance, when Sonia and Akane were fine even though the main game pushed gundham and Nekomaru.
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>>737138737
Says Danganronpa fanboy with utter dogshit generic ass-wipe designs.
>Here's a stereotype that fits this character archetype design! EAT IT UP! What do you mean you have seen it before and its not original!?!?
lol.
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>>737119807
Unless they just delete Chiaki, that's not happening. However, I do hope she lives longer purely so her photography can actually be relevant to some cases. It's the best when the cast actually use their Ultimate skills for something.
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>>737142086
Normalfags. The only girl from the series worth giving a shit about.
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I just think it'd be hilarious if the Imposter was some other recognizable DRverse character instead of Byakuya and everyone just treated him normally the entire game without ever addressing it (bonus points if he makes it to the end)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lApamNksgDs
Wow, this is LITERALLY just bootleg Danganronpa
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>>737142352
hah, but no.
>>737142292
>the OG is tiktok somehow.
Back to filthit summerfag.
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>>737142585
Kyoko is a dogshit character
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>>737144493
They're bad but at least the game's plot is built around them
Despair Disease is a literal nonsense asspull to brainwash a random character into killing people and make for a retarded case that never matters again
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>>737144493
I watched a guy play through the series the other day and he got really, really mad whenever something wacky happened.
And it made me realise something - it's just brainlets. These are brainlet opinions.The correct view is to see these things, register them as weird, and then come to the conclusion that no, the series didn't suddenly get really bad, these things are a hint. A sign that maybe the world is not as real as it appears to be.
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>>737144886
Despite the series wackiness and goofiness there’s nothing as shit as Tsumiki’s motive for killing them, she could just be something simpler like
>I’m done with Saionji bullying me
But they just brainwashed her into doing it, no one in any other game has a motive as shit as hers
>inb4 Celestia’s dream harem
Even that was born from her own ambitions, she didn’t had to be brainwashed into stupidity
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>dropping hints about the overarching plot is.... LE DOGSHIT
get over yourselves
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I've seen a lot of predictions and outside of the previous survivors Mikan's probably the fourth least common choice for a 2x2 survivor after the three ugly fat dudes. The only other one she might be above is maybe Chiaki
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Didn't the "Despair Disease" killing only happen because it gave Mikan her memories of being evil back?
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>>737129215
Its only weakness is stuff that can't be helped (lol)
Worst graphics, worst gameplay, but of course a game that came out 2 and 4 years later would be better.
It also has less complex ( I don't want to say weaker) trials, but its very well paced and you can solve the mystery before the investigation, compared to 2 and 3 which tend to hide important info from you until then.
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>but its very well paced and you can solve the mystery before the investigation, compared to 2 and 3 which tend to hide important info from you until then.
tbf, while the former has appeal, I actually do think the latter makes for stronger storytelling and more exciting cases
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>>737132593
Not really, that island was amazing. If you had to stay there I don't know why you'd bitch about it besides never seeing your family again.
The school legitimately is creepy with a room with bloodstains smeared everywhere, not to mention having to share with a literal serial killer as well as the corpses of your friends being everywhere.
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>>737147223
they're fine because that's the point of the story
while I don't like them waking up in the anime, obviously they're fine, that's what the finale is trying to do
it doesn't work if it all leads to "uh yeah actually they're fucked lol". but again, I would prefered for them to remain sleeping... at least for a short while.
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>>737133496
I mean Monokuma kinda reaffirms this.
You can't just have several unrelated characters talk about things and not expect people to think that you aren't trying to tell them something.
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Characters I really like:
>Togami
>Ishimaru
>Junko
>Kirigiri
>Hinata
>Fuyuhiko
>Hiyoko
>Nagito
>Peko
>Kaede
>Saihara
>Himiko
>Maki
>Tenko
Characters I like:
>Asahina
>Mondo
>Chihiro
>Sonia
>Ibuki
>Imposter
>Gundham
>Miu
>Rantaro
>Kokichi
>Kaito
>Angie
Characters I strongly dislike
>Yasuhiro (retard)
>Akane (retard)
>Kirumi (the worst crime of all - SHE'S SO FUCKING BORING HOLY SHIT)
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>>737117081
I want 2x2 to come out to give me a reason to seek new doujins.
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You can, but its kind of annoying to be railroaded and forced to not be able to look or know things that are reasonable because the game said "nuh-uh not yet".
I don't even hate it all the way, but 2 and 3 have absolutely horrible pacing and lots of dead air (on top of having weaker cast in comparison to 1) that exacerbates those issues.
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I'm mixing them because that's how they're stored in my head. Sometimes that's what I read, sometimes the voice lines stuck more.
The whole thing is funny sometimes. I remember when V3 came out, I kept saying Oma, but then everyone in the threads discussing the game seemed to use Kokichi instead, so now it's stored under Kokichi for me too
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Flashback Lights are basically Despair Disease as a primary plot point.
On top of it, Shuichi's argument that fiction changes you doesn't work if you are literally brainwashed to do Monokuma's bidding.
It completely robs anyone of any agency.
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>>737146236
At the very least, it foreshadows the ending, but even ignoring DD being a shitty plot device, the chapter has lots of flaws.
>Ibuki and Hiyoko dying before their character arcs are resolved (and the former gaining an actual character at all).
>In addiiton, Mikan losing all real agency. Really, anyone could have been the killer and it owuld have mattered enough. You can't just set up a plot point (Hiyoko bullying Mikan, Mikan's self esteem issues) and not do jack with it without it feeling anticlimactic.
>Mikan gaining the speed force and somehow manages to set up the murders and make it back to the Hospital in the time that Hajime sprinted to the Bar.
>Hiyoko's murder weapon was never found.
>Despite having it, Despair Disease isn't even used. Outside of Mikan since Mikan just slit Hiyoko's throat and strangled Ibuki to death.
Some other things but thats from my memory.
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>Flashback Lights are basically Despair Disease as a primary plot point.
There is one primary difference to be fair. Flashback Lights only change the information you know; Despair Disease quite literally rewrites your personality, and Mikan's at least made her literally brainwashed. I don't believe any of the V3 cast's personalities or ideals changed from the Flashback Lights directly, unlike Mikan who was forcefully brainwashed into Junko's bitch.
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>Despite having it, Despair Disease isn't even used. Outside of Mikan since Mikan just slit Hiyoko's throat and strangled Ibuki to death.
This is my biggest disappointment, how can you set Ibuki as doing literal everything you want and not order her “Kill Hoyoko and then hang yourself” that would make the case more interesting than suddenly Mikan becomes competent and does all kind of Nagito-tier schemes
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Every character besides Taka in 1 gets a pretty satisfying arc or at the very least, move the plot forward in a way unique to them.
Ibuki, along with the rest of the cast besides the usual suspects (Chiaki, Hajime, Hopeman, and Fuyuhiko) don't really do much and the game wouldn't really change much without their presence.
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>>737117081
All 3 games suck and are only liked for the music and the wacky character design. Can't fathom how people argue this or that game has better writing. What fucking writing? It's all japanese nonsense. The gameplay consists of walking through empty corridors and playing Mario Party minigames by yourself. The dialogue options are painful. The overarching storyline is a bad joke and most of the characters are obnoxious fucks so you're glad when they end up dying.
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>>737149257
I mean there's a bit of a difference in living for yourselves despite a country falling into chaos and dying hopelessly in despair because there's literally nothing beyond the Killing Game which is what Gonta believed.
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>Flashback Lights only change the information you know
Your memories are you. Like phobias and fear develop from bad experiences, right? Your personality changes with the vibe of your environment right? If everyone is a miserable fuck, you're probably going to be one too.
So Flashback Lights are essentially doing that. I mean, the prologue shows that.
Kirumi would have never killed anyone if she didn't watch her motive videos and gai nher "memories" back. Same with Ryoma. Korekiyo being a serial killer was clearly written in at the start of Chapter 3, since if he was just an impatient schizo why didn't he take advantage of the first blood perk?
I mean monokuma even called it the "Remembering Disease".
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>>737149525
But that's still their decision to make. Kaito said life is made to be lived.
Not to mention V3 has probably the most brutal executions in the series. Why in the love of fuck would you want to put your friends through that.
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I was talking about the latter uses on Gonta/Kokichi and then for making them think they were Hope Peak Students so the game would continue, if you're talking about the Students themselves than I have nothing to really say beyond that's who the characters we were introduced to are and whoever they were formerly are functionally dead. They're literal tv personalities put in a flesh suit. Not to say I like it or wish to justify it much, mind you, but what you see is what you get.
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The non-personalized executions are probably less dramatic as far as Gonta and Kokichi knew, and supposedly they were STILL better than the DESPAIR. But yeah, they went back on Kaito's words and didn't give them a chance. Though when they do actually learn what it was they all ended up agreeing lmao. I do think its hamfisted that it's so DESPAIRY that they all think its better to die now instead of starving to death in the arid wasteland or trying to make a plan and attempting to live on the school itself since they can get fed.
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>The non-personalized executions are probably less dramatic as far as Gonta and Kokichi knew,
There is still no official depiction of what the dreaded mass execution would even look like. The most common portrayal is that it's just everybody's regular executions all happening at once.
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Most likely. My theory is that 2x2 is literally a simulation of 2 16 people are going through. 2x2 main path is just 2 and the simulation going as planned. 2x2 side path is the 2 cast (or maybe even a new cast) with different personalities since they're literally different people and the killing game continues in the real world.
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>are probably less dramatic
Would you bet your friends life on that? What if Monokuma would torture them slowly for week, months, or years. I mean he never said how long the execution would go for.
At the end of the day, rather than play some macabre roulette you can just slit your wrist in the bath.
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>Tsumiki
>Saionji
>Togami
>Ishimaru
>Kirigiri
>Hinata
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>Asahina
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It’s a double subversion. You think it can’t be the creepy guy because it’s too obvious but they circle back around and it actually was him.
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I used to wonder how that would have worked if the ritual was actually performed. The solution I came up with is every member of the cast has an identical twin. They would’ve had to take this motive into account while casting and only accept twins. So if the ritual is completed they’d just hit the other twin waiting in the wings with a flashback light and drop them into the game. I like this explanation because it also explains what Tsumugi would have done with the Kaede twin plot thread she introduced if it didn’t get debunked in the final trial.
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Nobody is actually retarded enough to pronounce it like that right? I’ve never heard that. They even say it like vee three in the game.
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>Chadhara
>Godmeno
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>They would’ve had to take this motive into account while casting and only accept twins
why bother with the specifics? just fucking clone everyone or something or find a doppleganger
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>Ctrl-F leak
>No results
I'm not interested in Danganronpa but I'll stop by to say there was a huge leak of dev builds. I have no idea what exactly is in it since it seems to be distributed through an .exe that accesses the hackers' CDN. It's a group that's pwned a bunch of companies so it's doubtful that it's malicious, but if you don't trust it, I'm sure there are some DR giga autists who will be all over it once it spreads.
>DANGANRONPA datamine tool. (1-2-3 + S) maybe there is little bit of 2x2 and UDG not sure.
>12k Versions (root dirs) and extremely big total amount of development (and not only builds)
>HOW TO USE:
>Open
>Select Version
>Press Button 1 (Manifest) to select version.
>Press Button 2 (Inspector) to grab link to >exact file you need.
>Press Button 3 (Download) to dowlnoad all version content.
>Also there is a button to select tool language and button to change download threading.
>Also featuring fancy sort and quick search.
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Yeah PR stunt, casting a wide net to find people with the right look, something like that. Maybe they make behind the scenes stuff or American Idol style audition episodes and they’re trying to find people who’d be entertaining for that.
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>V3 has best AND worst girl
truly the most impactful Danganronpa
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>It’s a double subversion. You think it can’t be the creepy guy because it’s too obvious but they circle back around and it actually was him.
Its not even a subversion because the game set up that he obviously killed Tenko but would get away with it. its just for some reason he killed Angie too.
I suppose that in itself is a subversion but its like why even say anything if you're not going to make use of it.
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>>737150750
>culprit commits untraceable crime
>doubles down and commits a retarded one because he was already almost done preparing it
Retardkino
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what the hell with this brainwashing shit ? you are aware the whole point of the case was about them actualy being healed from this shit in this island, to blown you away when revealed in the final trial ?
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>>737154729
That would be cool but I dunno how the killing games would continue though
Only scenario that would make it work is if someone sets up someone to accidentally kill another and the accidental killer is the blackened
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>>737154671
Remembering Disease is just really really stupid and makes for a dogshit culprit
There are ways to do something like a rabid killer due to brainwashing out of their own control who needs to be put down but 2-3 was not it
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>>737133754
Same, she is my lovely wife and I love and cherish her every day.
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I had a special request so I HOPE SOME OF YOU READ SOMETHING BETTER
English mystery VNs on Steam from the past few years:
>Beyond R: Rule Ripper
>Birth ME Code
>Blankspace
>Bound Between Desks
>Clean Slate
>CORPSE FACTORY
>Decide 4 God (Out now in full 1.0)
>Detective Instinct: Farewell, My Beloved
>The Divine Deception
>Entropic Float: This World Will Decay And Disappear
>The Game of Fourtune
>Head AS Code (remake)
>Look Inside
>Methods: The Canada Files
>Methods: The Detective Competition
>The Price of Flesh
>Quantum Suicide
>Reaplaced
>Shards of Chaos
>The Specters Desire
>SYNESTHESIA
>Tead
>Thief's Roulette
>Whispering Memories
>The Zodiac Trial
English mystery VNs on Steam that are to-be-released:
>The Lost Delinquents of Rollings High
>NO MORE WORK FOR ITO
>Ubel
>Underground22
>The Wonderland Killings
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>>737154596
One issue with Danganronpa cases is that as the game progresses you can usually deduce the culprit just from motivations and character actions alone
In Case 3's case, no matter how many people say Angie's killing was "untraceable" he was still the most obvious culprit at that time. None of the cult members would have done it and you can reasonably assume Maki, Kaito, and Kokichi wouldn't either. Even without Tenko's murder, they would have gotten to him eventually.
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>>737156225
Yeah since its vote based it makes some of the cases fall flat/not work in later progression. "Y-YOU CAN'T PROVE IT WAS ME WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT" ok sure but who ISN'T going to vote for you when you're possible and acting suspicious as fuck?
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