>>737132821

Not Japanese enough.

>>737132821
Zoomers don't buy video games, some franchises are kept alive exclusively by unc gamers

>>737132821
zoomers can only cope with games that last 10 minutes, not 100 hours.

>>737132821
it's a 30 year old game

>>737132821
I bought kingdom hearts as a kid and never played it because I liked shooting people in the face and blowing shit up and not whatever gay jrpg shit this is.

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released 10 years too late

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>>737132821
>Why did FF fail to attract a modern audience?
But it did.

>>737132821
Square Enix failed to make the defining FF game of modern Square Enix.
They didn't make THE Final Fantasy game to sell the franchise like they did back in the PSX-PS2 days were it was just defining THE FF game to sell the franchise one after another.
The merger completely fucked up how they make FF games somehow.

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>>737132821
normies love it tho

>>737133745
>The merger completely fucked up how they make FF games somehow.
FF12 was already in dev hell before the merger.

>>737132821
Cause they raped the corpse of the beloved game from the age group that still cares about FF
Boomers loved 7 and you turned it into Nomura slop and sold it as three games, you literally lost the main audience still interested in these relics AND YOU WONT MAKE IT FOUR NIGGAS IN A ROW

>>737133882
No they don't. I watched a few normie streamers for game awards and barely anyone in chat cared much about FF showcases.
RE gets more hype nowadays

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Is this a Cloud thread?
Don't see many of those.

>>737134056
Fuck off and die faggot

>>737134056
A straight Cloud thread yes

>>737133978
ff merch everywhere I look, be it bootleg chinese stuff or the stuff square enix tries to peddle with their emails

>>737134056
uoooh unemployed merc erotic

>>737132821
no dark souls or roguelike elements

>>737132821
FF7 could never live up to the nostalgia of the past.

>>737134179
Not even with a 1:1 remake?

>>737133978
>RE gets more hype nowadays
RE is weird, it has the same demographic as Final Fantasy (30+) but it has edits on TikTok that make it super popular with kids who have never played Resi and never will, funnily enough, Persona 5 is in the same position

>>737132821
The only popular one by a modern audience is VII because it's always been lauded as the best game ever forever.

>>737132821
12, 13 and 15 sucked. At one point, people would just assume that an FF game would be good because the last few were good. Now, it's surprising if an FF game you don't hate comes out.

>>737133297
This, it lost its essence.

>>737132821
Because it tried to appeal to the modern audience by doing, of all things, a fucking multiverse story line. And, yes, even if it is just "lifestream memories" it is still functionally a multiverse within the narrative.

>>737134056
god he's so gay

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>>737134089
That's a very strong reaction, what are you afraid of, anon?

>>737132821

Because it´s a mid open world game that wastes it´s setting, characters and combat mechanics on a shit tier world design that´s basically a giant dumpster and shit boring as fuck mandatory quests?

Seriously what use is playing as this badass ex soldier guy with PTSD when 75% of the game is just grinding through generic areas doing random shit for forgettable filler tier NPCs? The player has no agency over the story, as one is just doing random stuff until the plot advances on it´s own. It lacks the momentum and urgency the original game had going for it as the story relevant moments are far apart in between shit tier filler and even the story relevant ones are unreasonably stretched to justify the price tag.

The whole thing is just uninteresting, boring and lacks any kind of identity or iconic value of it´s own. The combat system was not terrible but it´s not enough to invest 70+ hours on a game.

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>>737132821
>leave Midgar
>you... uhm... hunt Sephiroth? Somehow?
>you actually have no idea where he is
>why do you hunt him again?
>lets forget about that
>and shinra
>fight some random wolves and orcs
>alright, done?
>fight some random monsters in a mine
>good, done?
>here is the big canon city
>haha, want to go there?
>fight random fish monsters at the beach zone first
>alright, so you spent 20 hours doing generic monster sidequest shit
>lets finally return to Shinra
>you didnt forgot by now what you were doing, right?
>how does this help you to find Sephiroth again?
>who cares!
>lets play a card tournament on a cruise ship
>and have a beach episode
>alright, done? Lets fight random monsters in the desert
>and go the the amusment park
>what? Oh, right. Sephiroth
>yeah, go to your home region and fight some random monsters
>ok, go back to the amusement park
>good, now go to a random canyon, we gonna introduce some random lanky people
>why did i want to hunt Sephiroth again?
>anyways, here is the temple of the old folk
>you now fight Sephiroth who grows a little Sephiroth out of his head
>and this Zack guy is also here. Whatever thats about
>ok, game is done. Sephiroth was beaten but kinda dont care and went off laughting. You got some timeline mumbo jumbo. And you´re still hunting Sephiroth, not knowing what his actual plan and goal is like
wtf was this mess of a plotline? who wrote this shit?

>>737133297
Fuckin what? The cutscenes from Rebirth are literally anime right down to the weightless movement and grunting.

>>737134819
youngins like resident evil because they love watching streamers play horror games.
Also a lot more digestible since its 6 hour games vs FF's 60+

It has nothing to do with twitter or fortnite or YouTube

It is pure

>>737137216
They decided to make a game out of the part where there's no plot progression, but world building and characterization, also it's like twice as long as the entire original game

>>737133697
/xivg/ is the worst general that I've ever visited, it's basically a Discord clique that spams posts talking about their inside dramas and posting screenshots of their characters doing nothing.

They do not talk about the game ever

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>>737132821
>Completely OBLITERATES squeenix and exposes them for the fraud they are
I kneel...

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>>737132821
It's retarded and gay. Always has been. Only a select few fans are capable of acknowledging this and I have a great deal of respect for them.

The only adults that like it were exposed to it while enduring some form of abuse as children so they cherish it as the closest thing to a real family member they will ever have, all while remaining blissfully unaware that it plays like shit and has girly gay retard character design.
Nearly all of Square-Enix's profits come from the same demographic of fucked-in-the-head people who will tell you with a straight face that turn-based game design isn't total dogshit for invalids incapable of basic hand-eye coordination. They are also all insanely arrogant and constsntly grasp at anything they can to try to play up how superior they are to everyone else.

As the human race evolves to handle mental illness and trauma more effeciently, Final Fantasy will become nothing more than a stepping stone that demonstrated hardcore tabletop RPG mechanics can be applied to casual video game design.

It never stood a chance outside of a single generation telling it's kids to try it since FF7 was just oh so amazing.(It's really not and has absolutely terrible gameplay)

>>737132821
FF is uncslop

>>737132821
Too much time without releasing new main entry games, and the last ones were terrible. FF 15 and 16 sucks ass and are not even Final Fantasies.

FF 16 had a golden opportunity, it was backed up by the hype generated from 14 and Yoshi-P has a lot of cultists that were ready to shill his game like their lives depended on it, all he had to do was make a mid Final Fantasy game, but he made a gimped Devil May Cry

>>737138057
This individual is just a slightly less ugly DSP but his opinions are just as bad

>>737133297
retard

the only reason to stick around is if you're nostalgic for one of the good ones and they haven't made a good one in 20 years

>>737138249
>Yoshi-P has a lot of cultists that were ready to shill his game like their lives depended on it

Man, are you talking about someone specifically?

>>737138294
He's alright.
Better than all those Rebirth cultists.

They didn't do enough to keep the franchise breathing, so they are still primarily marketing to the original fans. There is some hope for the series though. I expect that the Remake trilogy will be a big deal when the final game launches, there will be the biggest marketing push yet and a new audience will be presented with a finished product. They also have an opportunity in the third to completely defuse a lot of the narrative complaints.

Kingdom Hearts on the other hand... That's a series with no future. Same deal but new titles are gatekept by being late sequels and specifically appealing to millennial nostalgia.
I wouldn't be surprised if KH4 is cancelled. The series couldn't even be rebooted because kids aren't consooming a wide variety of disneyslop now

>>737132821
The FF7 Remake wasn't fun. It's that simple.

>>737132821
Can we admit that Gen Alpha does not care that much about the gaming industry? Gaming only really impressed Millennials and Zoomers. Younger gens don't have the same attachment to gaming.

>>737133479
Zoomers love spending thousands of hours on games like Genshin Impact which is a far better game than anything Japs have done for many years, bald boomer

>>737140216
Well yeah they only have slop

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>>737132821
That's my wife's husband

They're just subpar action games now. The last good FF was 25 years ago. A quarter century.

>>737140934
20 years*

>>737139320
KH4 needs to be a full reboot with a brand new cast. Them sticking with Sora is like Pokemon sticking with Ash after Johto.

>>737140965
alphababbies and zoomers watch nu-disney and then move on to the next thing, which is fine. Millenials made their childhood favourite movies their entire identity.
If anything, a Kingdom Hearts reboot may be able to drop Disney and instead tap into Nintendo's blossoming cinematic universe. With the Smash Bros cameo, there actually is some precedent for this.

>>737141630
Sounds like the issue isn't that Ash is now gone, it's him being replaced by someone worse.

name 1 boomer series that attracted the modern audience

hard mode, no nintendo IPs and no call of doody

>>737141849
Baldur's Gate

>>737141536
I also hate how they turned Sora from a happy go lucky kid into a moron. It's even worse since Goofy fills the comic relief idiot niche just fine. They can even make the new Keyblade master female as long as she isn't a girlboss.

>>737141849
purseowner (to its fandom's detriment)

>>737142273
Doesn't seem to me the p5 fanbase went back and played p3 remake

will have to see if persona 6 does get the hype back

>>737132821
Western culture is too negrified now

>>737142339
>Doesn't seem to me the p5 fanbase went back and played p3 remake
P5R sold over 10 million, according to Sega leaks. P3R only sold 2-2.5 million.

>>737132821
they haven't made a good one since the PS2 era, and even then X and XII are weaker than the PS1 and SNES eras

>>737132821
Redditbirth had too much DEI, Ubisoft and Anime mannerisms. Nobody asked for that.

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The "latest" releases are cringe and lack aura

>>737139320
>so they are still primarily marketing to the original fans

They haven't been doing that in 20 years.

>>737139320
>I expect that the Remake trilogy will be a big deal when the final game launches
I hope so. maybe then the insecurity will finally go away.

>finished product
Remake is a finished product. Rebirth is another finished product.
Or is the narrative going to change when part 3 releases? Anything for those sales I suppose. If calling the full trilogy one complete product invalidates some criticisms, then that's what we'll do.

>>737132821
FFXVI attracted twice the modern audience that Rebirth could pull thoughbeit

>>737143929
Modern audience is on PC and Rebirth demolished FFXVI on steam

>>737143781
>>737143925
>jimbo arrives to ragebait and shill his shitty new video
Kill yourself retard

>>737143982
>Rebirth demolished FFXVI on steam
not a high bar

>>737139320
>They also have an opportunity in the third to completely defuse a lot of the narrative complaints.

The damage is already done. No one is going to slog through 2 mediocre games just to get to part 3. No one is interested in a fractured story. You can't fix this schizophrenic mess that appeals to no one unless they remake the entire thing again.

>>737143982
Actually they sold the same on Steam
Nice cope though

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>>737132821
Because she died, again, in the stupidest possible way, what a let down...

>>737143984
I don't know who big jimbo is i just thought the pic looked funny lol

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in general?

>FF XV is the only one that attracts a wide audience by merit of being open world and action but it's a trainwreck of a game, so at the end of the day, impressions are not the best
>the older games are not very appealing to the uninitiated, looking too archaic I guess, with some modern ports like TZA FF XII being inferior to the original turning modern audiences even more.
>I think FF XIII is the game that was the make or break for the series. it was in a position to bridge the gap between old and new gens. but when you make a game with a 15 hour prologue that's not gonna happen
>Take an mmo studio, that's mostly popular on PC with their recognizable art direction and make a console exclusive cinematic action game that's Square's answer to nuGoW. does that even make sense?
>Fill the market with mediocre slop like Type-0, World Of FF, Paradise Stranger no one cares about
>All things considered VII remake has been decent but ultimately hindered by Square's retarded decision to make it into a trilogy. no one will stick around for that. probably the second dumbest thing Square has done after The Spirits within.

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>>737132821
they did
problem is, the modern audience doesn't buy video games

>>737143925
I held off on playing the games until they were all completed but eventually caved and recently played remake and rebirth. Remake was just okay, good enough but I was genuinely blown away by Rebirth, I haven't enjoyed a game as much in decades and can see massive potential in the third.
A lot of the complaints that are sticking points by critics like the time ghosts and story mix ups could be tied up in a satisfying way in the third. In Rebirth.

Some of the criticism is quite funny
>yeah of course it looks and sounds great, has amazing gameplay, a huge variety of content, etc., etc.... BUT...

>>737144196
They should have known this isn't the 90's and games take more than two years to make now. By the time Remake III launches it will be on the PS6. Three console generations and almost a decade for one story.

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>>737144083
>Nice cope

>>737144403
They should have followed the Prologue + Full main game thing that kojima did with Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain. a trilogy was just a stupid idea.

Gay sex with Sephoroth

>>737144358
I'm playing through rebirth right now and aside from general unreal engineness and chudley, its been fuckin' fun.

>>737132821
>you have to get the magic crystal shards to defeat the evil empire!
That's 90% of JRPGs and it doesn't resonate with people today

>>737144358
I'm confident I'll like part 3 whatever happens and so will you

>>737138249
16 is a masterpiece desu

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>>737144585
I don't think he wants you.

>>737145909
Gay rape on Sephiroth

>>737144358
I really hope anons who didnt love remake and didnt buy rebirth see posts like these and are inspired to buy rebirth and get hyped for part 3

>>737144083
All VIIRgins have left is cope. Redditbirth killed the series
>>737145428
True

>why isn't a mediocre single player game talked about forever?
Because it's a one-and-done deal. You play it once until you beat it and that's it. There's no online mode to prolong the experience or goof around with others.
Also ff7 remake was one of the best selling games when it came out.

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>>737146031
Specifically by Cloud

Three parts is too much to ask for a new audience. This is just for boomers like me, and half of those will hate what they did to it. They set up a trilogy that's guaranteed to suffer fewer and fewer sales with each entry.

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>>737133297
retard

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>>737143062
>P5R sold over 10 million
and it only needed 3 rereleases and to be put on every console including the fucking PS3.

>FF retards seething about Persona out of nowhere
Obsession at this point.

>retard clicks on every single FF daily thread to seethe
>calls anyone obsessed
shoot yourself
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/U_0elUjOSHDZHUwbA9brsw/

This game made me quite sure FF is for fujos, queers and shippers

>>737149694
The CloudxAerith/CloudxTifa wars have been raging since time immemorial, yes.

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Are you buying the new board game?
I think it's a popular board game in japan but with ff7 characters.

>>737133658
Exactly, they dragged their feet and paid the consequences.

>>737132821
>Why did FF fail to attract a modern audience?
They are already playing FF14 and refuse to play anything else.

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>>737132821
Are there still metrosexuals left? pic is 10 years old