His problem is that gamers are mentally retarded. Saying "We will make TES:6 eventually" years before development begun is not the same as what is considered a proper announcement. Should be common sense, but these are the same subhumans who buy incomplete early access %$70 Skinner boxes like Diablo 4.

>announces game to get investors rating boost
>cries when announcing a game means he actually has to do something
what a little spaz

it's really weird because before 2018, Bethesda was all about no announcing anything and then a full court press 6 months before release.

Didn't they do that with Skyrim and Fallout 4. Did it not do well for them?

>>737133847
bro you don't understand the investors need something to happen NOW. Number needs to go up RIGHT THIS SECOND not in a week or a month or a year or 5. We need more MONEY NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW.

Knowing Todd he probably ignored like 50 senior devs advising against announcing TES6.

>>737133474
Yesmen who surround him.

>>737133474
In the timeline where he didn't waste 8 years working on Saarfield, TESVI would have been out in 2022 and we'd have had Fallout 5 drop along with the second season of the Amazon slop show.

every well known creative director in gaming is a hack

tes 6 will have those pronoun body type things so I don't really care Todd

>>737133474
It just works.

>>737133474
What are they even working on over there? ESO and 76 sloptent? Starfield DLC no one asked for? Do they not have any actual games in the pipeline?

>>737133945
bold of you to assume they even knew about the announcement and Todd having any say in it

>>737133752
Fuck off bethesdrone. The manlet should have kept his lying mouth shut for once

>>737134204
BGS doesn't do ESO. That's Zenimax

It doesnt matter how much time they take, Skyrim will keep selling just like the Oblivion Demake. And no matter what, if the ES6 releases, people will not say shit about it taking too long and will cry and piss and cum as they screech in joy to have a new open world map to do the things they were doing in Skyrim.

>>737134204
theyve been working on Starfield 2.0 and just moved on to TES6

I've already modded skyrim into my perfect game. Just release it already so people can fix it and backport shit

Managing such a large company must be difficult.

>>737133474
>What is his problem?
I bet they have done absolutely no useful work on the game since the announcement all those years ago.

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>in the 2000's you could make an entire trilogy of games with 10-20 people and it would have more content, fun gameplay and an engaging story or worldbuilding
>2020's you need a 500 million dollar budget a team of 100-500 people (most of them jeets) and over 6 years to make a game that plays worse and looks worse than one from the 2000's
Does this not seem wrong to anyone? I mean like what the actual fuck happened to this industry in that all the talent and competence died overnight?

>>737133752
people who were born when Skyrim came out are in 10th grade now
they will become adults before any chance for TES6 to be released

You didn't buy his game

>>737133752
I would think that the average layman would consider that creating and sharing a trailer for a product comes with the implication for it being released in at least the foreseeable future.

>>737133847
76 and starfield has shellshocked them

>>737133474
He's the male Kathleen Kennedy. He has an addiction to standing on a stage and announcing things to uproarious applause, regardless of how feasible or likely they are.

>>737135610
Corporate whoring took over. When video games started making more money, it inflated budgets. Combining that with the higher fidelity graphics and how video games garnered a larger audience over the years, it was only a matter of time before game development reached this shitty state.

Big companies like Bethesda have to go through 8 million different types of checks before they can release a game. While niche games with a smaller fanbase still obviously exist, big AAA companies can't just release something with a very specific vision that's straightforward and may not be for everyone. They MUST develop a game that caters to everyone, spend years texturing rocks for no reason, let long term game developers leave the studio so there isn't any talent left, and simultaneously make sure that not a single human being in existence can be offended.

Basically, teams were smaller back then, so they could work together and get that shit done. Big companies have thousands of employees with too many ideas working on the same game so it goes through 10 years of development to eventually release as an unfocused, buggy, unsatisfying waste of time.

>>737133474
you did not buy enough copies of Skyrim and Fallout

>>737133752
Why are Bethesda shills like this?

>>737135610
Corporate suits meddling and the demand of delivering modern graphics.

>>737133474
They announced it purely because Microsoft was buying Zenimax and they wanted to drive up the selling price.

>>737137469
The announcement happened in 2018, MS buying Zenimax was at least 2yrs away

>>737135610
>to this industry
lmao accountants in power have been the bane of every industry since the beginning of urbanization. There's not a single sector that hasn't suffered from it in the history of human endeavor.

>>737133474
He thought he was a god...then Fallout 76 happened.

>>737137646
maybe it was just in early talks. Its interesting how they announced starfield and tes6 at the same time and then nothing about both

>>737135610
>I mean like what the actual fuck happened to this industry
it became big enough to attract finance sharks who don't give the slightest fuck about the product and only want to manipulate stock prices to make money in the short-medium period with no regard for the company's long term health or brand value.
The result is massively overblown productions for the sake of trying to equate the heaviest hits in the industry, and why? Because if you make prospective stockholders believe you're going to release the next grand theft skyrim or call of zelda, stock prices will soar.
But they'll collapse when it comes out and it's a piece of shit you say? Nobody cares. Everyone in the know already shorted and everyone else (meaning the customers and the retards left holding the bag) was always just meant for victimization.

>>737133474
Skyrim is a to complicated RPG for modern Bethesda to make

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when skyrim came out I was only 18, still in HS
this year im turning 34, im married and will have kids soon
what the FUCK bethesda

>>737133752
You don't need a fucking reveal trailer to say what could have just been a two sentence Twitter post. Presenting your announcement that way sets the wrong expectations.

>>737133474
Bethesda has no ability to make a new TES game

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>>737138550
congrats for your kid anon

>>737135848
would depend on your definition of a trailer
I viewed it as an announcement, not an actual trailer, because it was literally just a little shot of mountains with the name on it.
Also average layman is misleading. I'm an average gamer and I understand full well that a game is made across 10 years sometimes, especially a good large RPG. The "Average layman" in your scenario is more like a retarded shit for brains nigger retard.

>>737138550
Yeah its fucking insane I went from being a child playing Skyrim to being old enough to have a child to play Skyrim before TES6 comes out
At this pace theyll probably be in middle school

>>737138550
>The ps3 is 20 this year
>There is less time between snes-ps3 (1990-2006 so 16 years) than between the ps3 and now
>the ps4 is old as the ps2 was when the ps4 released (2000-2013 2013-2026)
>There is more time between the atari 2600 and the first xbox, than between the first xbox and now (1977-2001 2001-2026)

>>737139208
>There is more time between the atari 2600 and the first xbox, than between the first xbox and now (1977-2001 2001-2026)
Less time* the first xbox is older for us than the atari 2600 when the first xbox was released

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>Now announcing Elder Scrolls 6: ___Skyrim___

>>737133474
>>737133752
People would be asking about tes6 with or without an announcement

>>737133474
He's getting old and starting to realize that his dream game, his magnum opus, is just not happening.

>>737133474
wait... holy shit... THEYRE MAKING ANOTHER ONE???

>>737138229
I might be misremembering, but Todd said he wanted to assure fans that they weren't abandoning their single-players. Starfield and TES6 were announced at the same time F76 got it's E3 presentation.

>>737133474
He Duke Nukem Forever'd himself and he finally realized it.

>>737140647
No its been de-announced you didnt see or read anything.

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Did everyone forget that the only reason Bethesda announced Elder Scrolls 6 so early was that the only new games they were showing at the time were Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls Blades and they didn't want a similar shit show that blizzard got for announcing Diablo Immortal without confirming to the fans that there still making a Diablo 4 so it was Bethesda way of saying we're not abandoning our traditional games to chase the live service dragon.

>>737133474
Someone left the outline for TES6 on the top shelf and he can't reach it.

>>737133474
>What is his problem?
At first it was Zenimax. Now it's Zenimax + Microsoft.

>>737133474
can't wait for most of the cities to be destroyed and you have to build your own settlement over them.

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>>737133847
Because starfield was leaked and bethesdafans were livid the next game after fo0/76 wasnt going to be an elder scrolls. Announcing early was their way of trying to buy good will with their fanbase.

They showed a fake trailer because they saw Blizzard getting destroyed with Diablo Immortal while teasing on a new proper Diablo game.

>>737133474
old age is befuddling his brain and his good looks. he's no longer acting with confidence.

>>737134024
I'm glad we didn't, they would have gone full woke and had a female only protagonist, or validated new vegas (non-canon)

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>>737139461
I would buy it.

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lol lmao

I really do think Bethesda are has beens, tbqh. similarly to Bioware and Obsidian.

>>737138550
Sex havers get OUT!

Todd has fallen into the same hole most highly regarded ideas/directors guys do where they get too powerful and not enough people are willing to try and tard wrangle and tell him an idea sucks.

By the time TES6 actually comes out it'll bomb hard because Bethesda RPGs are literally unc-coded
Zoomers didn't play Skyrim and never grew up with Elder Scrolls like millennial uncs did
It will also get mogged by Witcher 4, KCD3, E33 2, some new Fromslop RPG and some other new IP

You can see this with the current state of Skyrim modding as well; modding went from fixing Bethesda's shit, adding waifus and waifu replacers to perfecting custom sex animations leading to changing Skyrim's combat into parryslop and/or actionslop to the point that they're not really playing Skyrim anymore but instead are playing an entirely new game with Skyrim tacked onto it

Daily reminder to everyone that Skyrim's development only took 3 years since they only started working on it after Fallout 3 in 2008, the game has been re-released twice and is still active 15 years later

>>737133756
he makes it sound like the announcement was like a casual thing he dropped in an interview or something but it was a whole hyped planned logo teaser at a presentation kek
like what is possibly his excuse if it wasn't just to dupe investors?

>>737133752
>His problem is that gamers are mentally retarded. Saying "We will make TES:6 eventually" years before development begun is not the same as what is considered a proper announcement.
>'No you see, it doesn't count because I said so. Please disregard the announcment being used to boost stock prices so we can appeal to shareholders. Oy vey STOP NOTICING GOYIM.

Lmao, shut the fuck up kike.

>>737147421
i guess but zoomers grew up on BOTW its not really a stretch that they'd enjoy a next gen TES
I know more zoomers who talk about fallout though than TES its true
and given the timeline of this game's release, we may more be talking about gen alpha and I have no fucking clue what those freaks are playing or will want to play

He'd better release it soon before he finishes morphing into Conan Obrien.

>>737147393
which is ironic considering the only reason New Vegas was good is because Todd wrangled them. who will wrangle Todd?

>>737147421
>>737147621
the issue is Bethesda sees Skyrim as a success, because it was. Its systems were shallow and somewhat outdated even for the time, and yet it is essentially the highlight of their companies existence. People think TES 6 and they imagine a game where they greatly improve upon Skyrim but why would they see it that way when Skyrim was called one of the greatest game of all time by retards? Maybe they've learned their lesson now with Starfield but TES6 is going to be shockingly dated and bland mark my words
It will be different from Skyrim and I'm sure they're paying attention to their peers some (BG3 in particular) but this company has really no reason to make a good game next.

>>737147776
When TES6 bombs, Bethesda will get cratered like Bioware

They got spooked at Starfield bombing, this one won't be any different

>>737147776
It feels like few devs bother scoping out their competition anymore to try refine or do their own take on the ideas, like everybody is totally reinventing the same wheels.

>>737147906
I really don't get Starfield
Its easy to think it was out of arrogance but I honestly wonder if it was just severe tech limitations and being too deep in to start over
According to Todd, the main reason TES6 is gonna take awhile is because they're making a new engine finally
There's a small chance that TES6 is actually interesting because they spent the time to lay a new foundation instead of being stuck in creation engine hell
Issue is there's no reason to trust them even a little
I remember Todd doing starfield interviews talking about how now that they were owned by Microsoft they had the financial freedoms to go back to their roots and make a more hardcore RPG
wtf was he talking about? I can't even squint and see that given what Starfield ended up being. Dudes a demon which sucks because hes ridiculously likeable if you watch interviews and know nothing about him.

>>737135610
AAA has too many cooks in the kitchen, too much publisher oversight, is over-organized to the point of being non-functioning. They are filled with people who "love the brand" but don't really have an intimate relationship with the games they are making.
Small teams have passion, communication, vision and enough chaos to oil the cogs.

>>737146539
smug idiots making food in their sink is my least favourite genre of hipster.

>>737148481
a lot of cooking content feels extremely smug in general it annoys the fuck out of me
I like the idea of cooking but the way people talk about it and show it is so fucking irritating
some retard will make a stew and the way he describes dumping the ingredients in is as if he did some skillful task or something its actually so aids
the aesthetic of a lot of cooking videos doesn't help where it'll be extremely high effort looking content for the most mundane tasks imaginable
it just all seems so oddly ego driven and its not like these are world famous chefs or anything

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>>737133752
>gamers are retarded
:^) Sure must suck being financially tied to a bunch of retards. Show some respect faggot, without me you don't work. (Bethesda plant prolly)

>>737133752
Anon it has been EIGHT FUCKING YEARS since ESVI was released. Todd does not care about you, nothing about Bethesda that you liked still exists.

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>>737133474
Todd im tired of playing skyrim and the oblivion remake is unoptimized ue5 turd.

im begging you to just produce something of worth.

>WRPG
>2026
lol yeah, no thanks, Todd.

>>737135091
>>737134204
>7135091
its amazing to me how delusional bethesda is about starfield.

Everybody sees it flopped, everybody knows its a flop and they just keep trying to resurrect this dead space slop game.

>>737133752
>just let us make a trailer for a game that won't exist for a decade bro
If Microsoft didn't have an army of jew lawyers on retainer he would already have been arrested for false advertisement.

>>737140448
it already happened, its called Morrowind literally saved bethesda from going under.
ive said it before but bethesda peaked early and skyrim was their last good game.

>>737149146
It's Todd and Emil's vanity project. The end result is extremely fitting, and shows just how hard their success was carried by existing ips they had nothing to do with creating. That left alone to imagine their own unique ip and world all they could make was something incredibly uninteresting.

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>>737133474
does he think waiting 2 decades increases the hype? lol probably half the fans already lost interest

>>737138550
That kid named dovahkiin will probably be old enough to get married and have kids too by the time ES6 comes out

>>737149309
to be fair to Todd he had a major role in morrowind and did a lot of turd wrangling but he is long past his glory days.

But yeh Emil needs to fuck right off, completely garbage writer needs to be replaced by ted peterson or kirkbride.

>>737149315
The less people demanding it, the more time they can take with developing it

Why are people excited for ES7?
It's painfully obvious the Bathesda has it's best days behind it, it's been obvious for decades.

>>737150812
Because there are zero alternatives to their games.

>>737148085
its easy to forget fallout 4 but its important to remember.
Bethesda is just talentless at this point, simple as.
Their last passable game came out 15 years ago and I thought it sucked.

>>737148085
>wtf was he talking about
Todd legitimately thought Bethesda achievements were hard and considered the lockpicking achievements to be "skill based" achievements
he's extremely out of touch with video games at this point

>>737133752
they literally made a teaser trailer that was shown at E3 of all places you fucking retard

>>737152828
>suzi height mogging
h-h-hot

>>737150812
because there are people who thought skyrim was good

>>737133474
>What is his problem?
they announced tes6 before ms buyout, he simply doesn't care anymore (why would he)

>>737135610
>what the actual fuck happened to this industry
games are made the same way movies are

>>737148085
>Its easy to think it was out of arrogance
I do think that was a part of it. I heard 2 things from a supposed "leaker" 1 thing he said was that there are 2 camps in Bethesda, 1 camp are the marketer / business school type people who are into low fantasy stuff and want the games to be more grounded, and the other cmap want the fantastical high fantasy stuff like morrowind, but the former group won over and they got to decide the direction of the company after morrowind. Skyrim lead designer for example, said that the Elder scrolls universe is not interesting enough to be made into a movie or TV show, he seems to think of the franchise as almost something like low fantasy, and there are a few parts of skyrim that were written as if skyrim was suppose to be low fantasy as well.
>but I honestly wonder if it was just severe tech limitations
Another leaker man said that this was a huge issue for starfield, the big struggle for starfield according to this guy was something to do with how the ships worked. According to him they were in crisis mode because something to do with space travel or ships or something wasnt coming together.
>here's a small chance that TES6 is actually interesting
I do think so, i think their games have been improving since oblivion, i think oblivion was the low point, Skyrim was a little better and then fallout 4 / starfield were games where they were trying new things and maybe they didnt work out but Bethesda did learn from them.
> they're making a new engine finally
they do that with every game though? every game uses creation engine with a few tweaks, thus making it a "new engine"... from a certain point of view.
>I remember Todd doing starfield interviews talking about how now that they were owned by Microsoft they had the financial freedoms to go back to their roots and make a more hardcore RPG
wtf was he talking about?
To be fair, starfield is more of an RPG than skyrim.

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>>737133474
>this shit will sell millions and millions despite starfield and despite fallout 76 and despite fallout 4

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>>737133752
>making an announcement trailer is not the same as a proper announcement

>>737135848
it was a mother fucking TEASER
it is not the same as a trailer
holy fuck the fact that this is a real post
fuck just stop being stupid man
try fucking harder

>>737148085
>I really don't get Starfield
Bethesda was simply sick of making TES and Fallout all the time
They wanted a new IP unrelated to the two
Their new IP bombed hard
Now that they're satisfied they're back to making TES and Fallout once again

>>737155607
You've said nothing

>>737155607
but will anyone care?

>>737155607
if the game was even as interesting as Skyrim it would have done well
its not simply a new IP
for MOST Bethesda fans, Fallout and Skyrim were both new IPs to them
Why is Starfield so bland and lame? What was even the full vision? Why does it lack everything interesting about past Bethesda games while retaining everything people complained about previously?
Its not like they shat it out the game was in development for ages
If they wanted to phone it in they could have just jumped to TES 6 and iterated slightly on Skyrim and sold endless copies
Someone TRIED while making Starfield but what the fuck was the point of it?

2008 = Fallout 3
2011 = Skyrim
2015 = Fallout 4
2023 = Starfield

Troon Vegas was released back in 2010 by Obsidiot, FO76 was made by the Austin studio (now closed) back in 2018 and they shat out the Special Edition and VR in Skyrim back in 2016 and 2017 respectively while Oblivion Remastered was made by Virtuous and not by Bethesda themselves

Bethesda after FO4 became a money laundering operation, a studio as large as theirs released nothing major for close to a decade

>>737156254
>FO76 was made by the Austin studio
Didn't a lot of bethesda fallout people work on it though? Todd talks about it like its one of their games despite it being another studio but maybe that's just marketing speak.

>>737152961
Faggot

>>737151535
tainted grail

>>737156354
D: omg what am i gonna do?

>>737156316
No, Fallout 76 was made by their Austin studio

It's still Bethesda but not the main Maryland one

>>737137224
They’re just tendies but aren’t sucking off the nips 24/7.

>>737156254
>by the Austin studio (now closed)
is that confirmed? I know in 2024 there was a bunch of changes to Austin, but I never heard it actually closed.

I don't even care. I think Microsoft is pushing the social corpo slop on all these companies they bought and have no interest in it. enjoy your body types and pronouns, /v/.

>>737136417
Exactly this. Anybody who's ever worked corporate knows that the only flow of work allowed is 10 meetings with people only tangentially involved for every decision. Video game companies (and movie companies at that) are subject to the same bullshit.

Todd is so based lol

>>737146539
Lmao dumping all that oil down the sink
>NOT MY PROBLEM
And who doesn't love friedchicken made in a hotel vomit bucket

>>737133847
He probably knows that the chinks/snoy will just try to reviewbomb and spoil the game with fake news just like how they said Iran is winning the war.

>>737156675
The heat of the oil cooks the vomit

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>>737133474
i really hope todd has reflected on how shitty starfield was and buckles down for tes6 as it's likely his last game that he's directly involved with
i know he won't i just hope he does

by the time tes6 releases it'll be hilariously obsolete and will get mogged by other rpgs released within the same time period
the enshittification will continue and by the time ai crashes they'll still have aislop
skills will be streamlined and dumbed down even more while they'll add perks and turn elder scrolls into a stealth archer lootgoblin settlement sim builder
starfield's unity parallel universe garbage and starborn force powers is a test bench for elder scrolls since tower magic in the setting is op magic

12 years for StarCraft sequel
12 years for Diablo 3 sequel
23 years for FF7 remake

I think waiting too long is going to bode very ill for the future of your series.

Elder Scrolls players are MMO players now
Just like Final Fantasy players are MMO players now
and WarCraft players are MMO players

this shit's done.

>>737156243
both fallout and skyrim are still piggybacking on years worth of worldbuilding written by talented people who are no longer there
even newcomers who aren't nostalgic for them will respect the objective quality that's there

They'll have to compete and will be compared with whatever FromSoftware puts out, Baldur's Gay 4, Witcher 4, Kingdom Cum Deliverance 3, Sandfall Interactive and other studios pumping out open world RPGs.

ES6 won't even hold a candle to Crimson Desert.

Why announce it if it wasn’t even 10% made at the time?

>>737157115
they made the trailer because they got spooked at diablo immortal's negative reception when they only had an elder scrolls mobile game plus starfield's trailer and people were expecting a new mainline elder scrolls game

>>737157031
>ES6 won't even hold a candle to Crimson Desert
Crimson Desert doesn't even have character creation
The niche TES fills for a lot of people Crimson Desert doesn't even attempt to compete with

>>737156813
lets be real here the other contemporary rpgs when this comes out will also be dog shit

>>737157184
That's not an issue for me.
I like it when my games have a protagonist.
I am not in the video game.

>>737157279
Who asked or cares about you?

>>737157313
Not the video game.
Because it has a protagonist.

>>737135610
It breaks my heart and blows my mind every time I hear that.

>>737157031
Starfield is the best RPG of the generation, Crimson desert is just a worse elder scrolls game. They'll be fine with ES6.