But they never went anywhere...

>>737137671
>returned
They never went away

>>737137671
On an Ace Combat-Nanoha timeline, Belkans invent magical girls, conquer the entire Strangereal and call it all Greater Belka, engage in several centuries of unrestrained PROGRESS, make Strangereal utterly uninhabitable in the process due to pollution, and fuck off to claim more clay for Belka in other worlds they get their shit kicked in and scatter all across the worlds with no permanent homeworld

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>>737137671
>wokeslop
Should've stayed dead. lol

>>737137671
(You) were a Belkan all this time

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>>737137671
Remember when PA wanted to make a first person detective game set in Strangeral?

But the Belkans were there all along

>>737137671
i hope this one is actual jet fighting with other jets and not just drones drones drones drones drones drones drones drones drones drones again

hope that's the game where you finally finish the job

Strangereal was promised to the Belkans 3000 years ago.

>>737139730
Is this the same thing as that school-themed game for Drakengard 4?

>>737140320
Zero is the only one that actually has this

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>>737137671

Have they said what gameplay changes this one has from 7? I hope they do away with competitive multiplayer this time that shit fucking sucked.

>>737142785
>is also the best
Go figure retarded japs don't even understand thier own series

It's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBfLeIgs_FM

>>737138274
Damn, was this homeworld 0 or 1?

>>737142869
For sure we're getting some kind of cooperative online mode.
As for gameplay changes, we're getting d-pad orders back for sure. PA is also being coy about it but multiple SPW is almost certainly a feature now.

>>737142869
multiplayer is going to be infinity 2.0

How can this series improve from AC7?

>>737142869
It'll probably be more of 7's shit, they don't know how to do MP obviously. I'll stick to the campaign.

>>737143201
Nobody knows what that means retard.

>>737143252
plot that goes somewhere, and better enemy ai

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>>737137671

>>737143252
actually good multiplayer and online coop campaign

>>737142869
It really looks like we can have multiple SPW at the same time.

>>737143489
>finally giving the directional pad purpose
you just know it won't be three spw's like project wingman however

>>737143252
A campaign that isn't 3 discarded ideas poorly merged into one.

>No coop
Why even bother making a sequel

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God, Trigger's so lucky

>>737143252
cosmetics you can actually use from the start

>>737143252
Magic Spear plays on each and every mission

>>737143252
a better fucking aircraft tree

>>737143252
idolmatster skins

I may be wrong, but I honestly feel like they WANTED to make 8. The promos just give off a different feeling. I'm really only referring to 7's development hell and how they describe of not knowing what the fuck to even do. 8 just feels more focused.

>>737143252
by not being AC7, actually. easiest shit ever

>>737137671
when was the last time it was NOT Belka?

>>737144879
<< Yes >>

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>>737146410
Don't come at me for this, but I think Maverick actually helped them in some way. I mean, just look at the trailer with all the cockpit shots and the callsigns on their helmets. Just add some Strangereal autism to that formula, and you have a decent Ace Combat game in the oven. Not that Project Aces aren't competent enough to make a great story on their own, but I'm sure the movie inspired them in some way. The movie was a hit and showed them that there's still some mainstream appeal to fighter jets. Ace Combat 7 selling really well must've helped them get some confidence back, too. Also, Ace Combat 6 didn't sell well and Assault Horizon was poorly received, so I'm sure they weren't at their best when they had to make 7 after those failures.

>>737143252
using the menu sounds and soundtrack from Shattered Skies

>>737143252
Have us fight proto-NEMO, and or have a psychotic waifu on our squadron like Scream

>>737147625
AC6 techinically Infinity because it was in the real world

>>737148169
Actually now that I remember, the belkan Gault squad leader is involved with the Aigaion. So they're part of AC6 but not directly the cause.

>>737147625
04, X and 06, probably 03

>>737145489
Well they confirmed that still won't be the case this time

>>737139730
I'd play it. Strangereal has some pretty interesting lore. Especially if the game has anything to do with the Ulysses impact.

>>737139730
boy i sure hope it's not about stealing some fucking superweapon's blueprints

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>>737139730
I don't hate it.

>>737142865
Is that a dual 5 inch gun mount on an AIRCRAFT CARRIER?

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>>737139730
I was more interested in Brave Arms when I found out about it due to close quarters combat + Sapin Revolution setting but I would've taken any of the pitches
Brave Arms was probably a bit TOO silly/campy even for AC though

>>737149098
It's modelled after the uss hornet if I'm not mistaken

>>737148870
>>737148927
Here's the plot poorly translated by AI

"STORY

Nine years ago, during the series of multiple terrorist attacks known as “Four Days of Terror,” Jean Howard lost his younger brother. Now, he receives orders to reopen the investigation into that very incident.

As he conducts a thorough reinvestigation, he discovers what appears to be a fragment of a tattoo in a photograph of a certain man. However, it bears a striking resemblance to his brother’s tattoo.

Soon after, Jean receives an anonymous email claiming that his younger brother was involved in the terrorist attacks and revealing the existence of an organization known as the “Gray Man.”

At the same time, an antimatter weapon under top-secret development is stolen. Inside the research facility, investigators find the corpse of a researcher whose ten fingers have been severed, their design carved with a tattoo motif."

Apparently Belka was behind it all, again.

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The game is gonna get pushed back to 2027 isn't it?

I mean there's no way in hell they'd be retarded enough to release it anywhere near GTA 6 right?

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>>737148927
>>737149487
every time

>>737143252
Co-op and Operations from 6

>>737149098
Yeah, FCS Endurance (what looks to be the home base for this game) is modeled after the catapult-refit Essex class, in the trailers she still has the forward superfiring 5/38" pair of turrets.

>>737143686
Ace combats story is pretty funny because individually there’s potential, but it’s insanely messy, should’ve stuck with the basic premise
>meme penal squadron becomes heroes
And you throw in the underlying plot point of
>the war is basically caused by ai trying to replicate itself
The latter plot point is really cool and actually part of 7 (it’s the final boss for fucks sake) but it goes over peoples heads because the narrative is so messy.

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What was his fucking problem?

>>737151042
I can't fault him considering how long they spent down there at the bottom of the ocean

He seems more sane than your average belkan nationalist

>>737151042
being trapped under the ocean in a metal coffin for years would do a number on your sanity

>>737145383
nobody played this game you fucking faggot

>>737143252
>How can this series improve from AC7?
npc squadmates that actually do something
npc squadmates whose planes generally match yours
extra option for mid air refuelling where you actually have to connect to the hose yourself instead of getting close enough (maybe other games already did this i haven't played them all)
landing from a much farther distance away and not having everything already lined up
more carrier landings especially at night
surgical bombing runs
bonus missions where you can fly on huge bombers and you can either pilot or be the guy who spots and drops the bombs and carpet bomb stuff
bonus missions where you can fly stuff like lancers, spirits, blackjacks, and blow stuff up with cruise missiles
unironically a cosmetic system that works like a car game. pick your base camo pattern, add all the emblems, numbers, and art you want. put anime girls on your canopy if you want, just let people go crazy or as authentically autistic as they want FROM THE START

>>737150418
Nah, a game about a penal from mission 5 to 20 would have been best.

>>737152304
>surgical bombing runs
>bonus missions where you can fly on huge bombers and you can either pilot or be the guy who spots and drops the bombs and carpet bomb stuff
>bonus missions where you can fly stuff like lancers, spirits, blackjacks, and blow stuff up with cruise missiles
>unironically a cosmetic system that works like a car game. pick your base camo pattern, add all the emblems, numbers, and art you want. put anime girls on your canopy if you want, just let people go crazy or as authentically autistic as they want FROM THE START
all of this was in AH and it was shit

>>737152264
calm down lol

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>>737152448
>put anime girls on your canopy
Bad idea. Too distracting.

>>737139730
>>737149203
To this day I still can't tell if these concepts were something that Bamco was actually planning for at the time or merely an elaborate joke page from the magazine when they were featured.

>>737150418
>the war is basically caused by ai trying to replicate itself
how fucking slow am i

>>737152264
I played Infinity you underaged fuck, it was great if you could actually get a chance to play and do damage to shit, some of the those raids were hell if you barely had anything unlocked.

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>>737143034
AC7 babies will never know how this 1 fucking song saved the franchise.

>they're porting AC0 to PC and other platforms

can they not just port all games? don't they use the same plane licenses?

>>737155580
Ace Combat has always been niche. Every entry barely broke even. They're probably doing it slowly

>>737155580
No? Each game has its own license now, especially since weapon manufacturers realized how big budget and how much money video games can make, it's why I'm curious as to how MGS4 is getting around most of its licensed shit.

>>737155816
>Every entry barely broke even
That makes no goddamn sense if they were more than happy to make 3 separate games during the PS2 era and even moved to the PSP in hopes of getting some sweet handheld customers.

>>737155580
You have to renew the licenses or you can't sell the games anymore. They got around it before by bundling the games with AC7's preorder so they weren't selling you the game itself, which is probably what they'll do again.
>>737154158
Someone should probably just ask Kono on twitter or something one of these days

>>737155580
>cant get a fucking zelda 64+TP collection
>cant get a fucking star fox collection
>cant get a fucking ace combat ps2 collection
Why do they hate money. My consoles are fine thankfully, but it still would be cool just to have a big damn collection on one disc.

>>737155465
>AC7 babies will never know how this 1 fucking song saved the franchise.
you mean 7 saved the franchise? Cause let me tell you no one but me bought the campaign for Infinity and bought Ace Combat Cross Rumble 3D at launch.

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>>737155580
>blocks your ports
sorry Project Aces but it looks like you cant port them games without MY license.

>>737155449
>>737155465
Fuck off retard

>>737137671
Around Belkans never relax

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>>737137671
Continental War (2003-2005): Invades, occupies and attempts cultural genocide of an entire continent. Defeat
Megalith incident (2005): Rogue Erusean officers try to use Megalith as a WMD. Defeat
First Free Erusean Uprising (2006): Rogue Erusean officers attempt a coup. Defeat
Second Free Erusean Uprising (2014): Defeat
Lighthouse War (2019): Defeat
Alicorn Incident (2019): Insane Erusuean submarine captain and his crew attempt to kill millions. Defeat
Erusean Civil War (2019-): Civil war between two factions. Conservatives and Radicals, the former wants to start an endless war using drones, while the latter believes the drones are 'Belkan witchcraft'. Free Erusea is also in resurgence.

Seriously, wtf is their problem, is there something in the Erusean water supply?

>>737155819
>"muh license fees"
This is peak brainlet reasoning. Aerospace companies make money through government contracts. Licenses aren't even a drop in the bucket, a single fucking plane sale is worth several times more to them than some licensing deal for a video game, model kit or whatever. Several of them don't actually charge anything (Russian companies in particular) and the ones that do are still more concerned about their own public image than making a few pennies on those kind of deals.
The biggest problem renewing those licenses has nothing to do with the fees, but the ridiculous paperwork that comes from rights being split across several companies, local laws, classified information and so on.

>>737150418
I'd have also extended the timeline a bit, from weeks/months rather to a conflict that spanned years, with the meme penal squadron being unique that it's one of the few fully human squadrons while everyone else keeps replacing lost pilots with AI

so that you get a good setup of why you're important in the end, by the time it becomes clear replacing humans with AI is a bad idea, you're basically the last option left

>>737157217
they thought they could fly in the same sky as Mobius 1 again. Yea, they do it for the love of the game.

soft disclosure that ww3 will be germans again

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>>737157484
>Yea, they do it for the love of the game
100%

>>737157307
>and the ones that do are still more concerned about their own public image the EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON IS ONE OF THE WORLD'S LEADING COMBAT AIRCRAFT

>>737157307
They were fine with pennies before, you fucking moron, learn to fucking read, yes big money IS on government contracts for the real planes themselves, but video games from early PC games to now are a far more lucrative and visible media, so giving those licenses away for pennies is no longer seen as a good idea, unless you're desperate for name/model recognition hence why Russian manufacturers waived their licensing fees.

>>737138445
Retard

>>737157484
I'm sure they do by the way
>>>/vg/563900990

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>>737151042
I too would nuke Usea just for Marine-chan.

>>737157963
Osea. Usea is the continent where 04 and 7 campaign take place.

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>>737143252
multiple different routes with corresponding endings

>>737158031
We aren't getting a AC 3 port yet

>>737158031
7 could have been neat if it had "multiple different routes, all lead to the same ending" because no matter what sides you picked in the conflict, in the end it was just an AI designed for warfare playing all sides at the same time to perpetuate a war without victor because it's purpose was to be a war AI not a peace AI

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>>737158031
I want the Tasha route, please, complete with epilogue marriage and h-cutscene

>>737156467
Infinity's dedicated playerbase was what convinced Bandai to greenlight 7

>>737158136
you joke but I could see there being a mission where you basically have to pick and choose who lives and who dies of your squad

>>737158031
Isn't that being teased? I mean thry don't have to do full-on routes, just branching pathes right near the end of the game like Armored Core

>>737158165
No it wasn't it was the devs begging and pussing on their knees, nobody played infinity or gives a fuck about that pay to play fuelshit

>>737158201
That'd be a tough decision if the game manages to pull an AC5. If 8 ends up being more like 7, I wouldn't give much of a shit about it. I mean, Count is a cool wingman, but I don't remember caring about the other Strider Squadron members a whole lot.

>>737158201
I feel like a blurb implied that. It seems like you may be able to choose certain characters to hang out with on the ship at certain points and if you don't max out a squadmates trust then they may die at a certain point in the story.

>>737158385
So part Mass Effect and parts of Ace Combat 3?

>>737158291
Infinity was literally the only quotable number since the other games were DoA.
But agree to disagree, buddy

>>737158201
woooooooooooo black ops 2 choices in ace combat less goooooo

>>737158201
>>737158385
my speculation is that the player character will die throughout the story, and everyone takes up the mantle of Wings of Theve/Rex to keep the legend going. Whichever character with the most trust/growth that you choose will be the last one to do it, thus allowing different routes like >>737158031

>>737158310
I liked Huxian.....

>>737154428
The war wasn't directly caused by that, but yes it was built up towards steadily once the war kicked off and as the Eruseans (Belkans) continued to develop their drone tech.

>>737158310
I liked Huxian and Jaeger

>>737151042
>nuke Oured
>war stops
>no Kessler Syndrome
>information age apocalypse averted

After their deal with sony exclusivity, how high are the chances for a Project Wingman reference in Ace Combat 8

>>737157827
>Bamco is totally paying gorillions for those licenses for this one series in a very niche genre
>Sukhoi and Mikoyan whose entire's existence is propped up by the Russian government is desperate for that gamer recognition, surely this will lead to more plane sales
Are you just pretending or are you an actual mouthbreather?

>>737158758
None or extremely low

>>737158631
thats retarded and you should be executed for such a idea

>>737158858
See here's the fun, the licenses fees can be a FLAT price or TIED TO a set number of units sold and a percentage of the profit, it's FUCKING WHY 6 and 7 have such fucking garbage numbers of non-traditional planes. And
>desperate for gamer recognition
They just want retards to defend their garbage country, it's like you've consumed so much propaganda you can't even see it anymore.

>>737158201
they are definitely doing a Kestral 2.0.

>>737158631
I doubt it just because this is the first time that we are actually experiencing the story through the protagonist's eyes when pretty much every other mainline is presenting the story through a 3rd party who has limited or no contact with the protagonist.

>>737158965
no u

>>737158858
russkies don't give a shit who uses their planes and have no licensing requirements at all (which is part of why 7 was such a a sukhoifest), but in interviews project aces have stated they went and asked for permission directly anyways

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>>737158705
I like Jaegar more than Huxian. I can't remember much about her, but I do remember Jaegar yapping about his son. Even so, I'm hoping AC8 can recreate the same feeling of friendship anime cheesy bs AC5 had.

my favourite ace combat is deadly skies 3

>>737157850
Faggot

>>737159315
it's really a shame that 7 flubbed the squad feeling
if it had been done correctly the final mission with Huginn and Muninn hunting down your squad one at a time could have been an emotionally devastating mission if all the people you came to love throughout the game just got erased by cold machines

>>737159315
i hope the opposite, i fucking hated everyone in 5
chopper was ok because he has the good sense to die before i could start truly hating him

>>737159436
Agreed.

>>737159447
Guess that's a (You) issue

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>>737151042
Unironically jews destroyed my country and life and the monarchy keeps laughing at me for being hitori boochi.

https://youtu.be/U0SWIOVCdT0

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>>737137671
>Belkans
every fucking bad thing to happen in Strangereal was caused by Belkans.
Why are they a thing? If there was a ethnostate in the modern world that build giant cannons that can bomb any country, giant space satellites that shoot lasers, and a giant airplane that bombs peacuful micro-countries. They wouldn't have any right to exist by a WIIIIDE margin

>>737159173
Not just the Russians, everyone does it. The military industrial complex sees video games and movies as soft recruitment and PR. Defense contractors have a financial incentive in allowing these kinds of deals for little to no cost, which is why you can find indieslop using licensed planes. Most of the time nobody even bothers asking for permission and everything is still fine, just look at Activision telling AM General to go fuck itself.
It's a completely different situation when you compare it to other types of licensing deals, like having anything to do with car companies, especially the more autistic brands like Ferrari and Honda.
The main expenses in any kind of licensing deal related to the military are usually related to consultancy and legal review, since some companies can be very anal about accuracy or having their stuff portrayed in a negative way.

How come no one made an Infinity private server yet?

>>737161061
the game code ran mostly server side, so unless you broke into bamco's computers (assuming any part of the game even still exists there) you'd have remake it from scratch

>>737160714
>If there was a ethnostate in the modern world that build giant cannons that can bomb any country, giant space satellites that shoot lasers, and a giant airplane that bombs peacuful micro-countries. They wouldn't have any right to exist by a WIIIIDE margin
>if

>>737161625
Silly anon, they're not building any of those things
That's work for the goyim

I've only beat 7 and I was planning on playing 3 next with a translation patch, what order should I play the rest of the games in?

>>737162980
release order

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For me its yellow 4, always

I HAVE SO FAR TO GOOOOO
AND ONLY HEAVENS KNOWS
YES I HAVE SO FAR TO GO
AND ONLY HEAVENS KNOOOO
WOOOWOOOOOO

>>737162980
Air Combat and AC2 barely have anything in terms of story and the gameplay is very outdated, feel free to skip them unless you're curious.
I'd personally pick release order because some of the gameplay improvements make it hard to go back.
The only handheld games worth playing are Skies of Deception and Assault Horizon Legacy (remake of AC2), skip the other ones.
Assault Horizon plays like shit and it's not a real AC game, avoid at all costs. The only funny thing about it is the cringekino theme song, and you can just hear that on Youtube.

>>737161373
Most of it was done locally, so there wouldn't need to be that much reengineering. But still a lot.
A lot of the hidden stuff wouldn't be all that relevant to a hacked version that presumably wouldn't be using the awful free to play mechanics anyway. You don't need to have random drops or rare missions or tournaments where the winner is just the person who played the most if there's no fuel system limiting how much you can play.

>>737163449
release order puts 3 first and i would actually suggest that to be the last AC game he plays

>>737163604
I don't see how that's a problem. The corporate war is completely irrelevant to everything else going on in the series other than a couple of references that nobody without prior knowledge would get either way. Also, it's very hard to find any of the PS1 games enjoyable after playing the PS2 games.

>>737163825
AC2 is enjoyable. AC3 is much less fun to play though. The planes fly like shit and the level design is usually boring.

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>>737137671
I'm gonna replay ace combat 7 to bury my pain of being stuck on ps4/switch generation.
It's not too bad, it's a quiet life being on dead systems. And there's no games on new gen worth getting. BUT sometimes there's good shit like that or the next armored core creeping around the corner and I know I'll never be able to play them so it stings a little.

>>737143252
If they shoot down your plane you can eject and hide in the mountains attempting to avoid Belk*ns niggers patrolling where you crashed. If they do catch you they jail you and take pictures of you to humiliate your government on social medias.

>>737160714
Then why are Americans real?

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>>737158758
Given a choice of indie plane games developed by dudes in Australia, I'd prefer Nuclear Option references.

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name a better plane than the su37
protip: you can't

>>737164682
I mean the newer Su-35s for a start. And some of the newer Su-30s too.

>>737164786
smaller numbers, wrong

>>737137671
I do not regret what I did to Hoffnung.
After the fucking shitshow that was the fortress mission followed by metric tons of Blekan aces chasing me in a air to ground fighter (I still shot them all down) I have no love for the Belkans.

>>737161829
take your meds anon, the only ethnostate building giant space lasers and V2 cannons is Belka and we already nuked them into the stone age

this is /v/, keep your schizo geopolitics contained to strangereal where it belongs. now tell me which superweapon had the best OST and why it’s Excalibur.

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>>737151042
at least his big proposal was nuking a different country instead of his own
he still wanted to nuke a country on his own side, though, so he's not perfect
anyway sex with huxian