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AWOOO edition
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Buy Plat
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I love this guy's art
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I love my fluffy wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>563810771
>baro
>hopes
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>>563810708
Primes don't need to be useless, I would prefer if their base stats are still better than an incarnon's even with all the passives added, the Prime would only be surpassed by the transformed state, which is temporary.I still think the main reason Torrid is considered the best is the incarnon is the easiest to charge, you don't need heat shots
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What's the clothing and faces to make my operator look like pic rel
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FORDBERG!!!!!!!!!
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She's saving the game.
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>>563812134
Her tits ingame are still good
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Brainstorming a Warframe kit and trying to decide if it's bullshit or not. Thoughts on a passive where you collect 5 out of 52 different buffs in the form of playing cards and your 4 cashes them out creating effects based off poker hands?
Frame overall theme is meant to be the gambling gunslinger trope
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>>563812315
True but if we can get Mag and Hildryn as magnetic frames. Dante, Ember, and Temple as fire frames. Hydroid and Yareil as water frames. Then why not a gambler gunfighter frame?
>>563812408
Could do something like Ember's heat meter with blackjack?
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>>563809636
FASHION ANCHOR
POST ANYTHING FASHION RELATED
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Taykiot tiypisy atoup po teyose sutpet tiypisy!
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IT'S GOING DOWN DREAMUZ
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>>563813367
oh I will interact with my kubrow alright
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yes they can and I will not stop
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SHE IS SAVING THE GAME
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>>563814803
There's one bit if hard rng but I was going to give it a way to control its own luck a little bit.
>Third ability is a tap and hold, tap to toss out your newest card dealing damage and a secondary effect based off its suite and numbers, hold to toss your oldest card
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I see I'm not the only one getting that goober in his recommended feed all of a sudden.
>>563812364
My brother in christ that's how boobs work without support
>>563813178
Mystery Niggas
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I finally got to build exergis and man it's a fine fucking weapon, my riven is kinda mid with +ms+heat-status duration and half of my mods are level 6-7 but even so, it shoots 9 pellets per shot and can do 3-5 shots before reloading, very nice for blasting dudes. Most of the
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goated fit
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>>563816181
man I want styanax prime so fucking bad
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>>563813090
if only he wasn't lame as fuck to play
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>>563813090
bubonico with the lycanblight set is such an easy layup
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>>563817525
good thing it's not canon
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>>563817454
it does get on my nerves when retard "veterans" say "its not that bad". they only say that because they haven't actually done the content in fucking years.
>>563817771
blasian auntie lookin pretty cute
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fuck you
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>they haven't actually done the content in fucking years
I had to do a few bounties just the other day because I got a riven for a kitgun I didn't have and wanted to give it a try, and I didn't have enough debt bonds.
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>>563817993
she does use bavana with a reddish primary that blends in with her skin tone. wish the other ones didn't have the weird face paint additions, cause she'd do well with glossy lips
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>>563816681
Archon Amar??? It's a Rhino Prime too
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>>563811042
It's worth keeping Dantes Exalted on one loadout for Archimedia.
but its also good to use it as a primer with Secondary encumber and arcane impetus for 78% strength and 39% efficiency. then you can just use
Roar and weapons. which fits with his status damage / support kit.
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>interact with your kubrow or kavat
wtf did she mean by that? nora you freak
https://vocaroo.com/1gYz455j1Wzf
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>enter ETA
>alt-tab for 5 seconds while mission loads
>alt-tab back
>mission failed
ok
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>>563823102
I don't like her helmet, it looks both too boring and too overdesigned somehow
Tiamat helmet is simpler / sleeker looking, and has a much more defined silhouette / identity
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I just want nidus to be cool again :(
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>>563823291
you can't handle that
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>>563823414
>build warframe
>equip warframe
>?????????>CAWCAWCAWCAWCAW
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>You're awake
>Asset: Anonymous; you are under suspicion of conspiring with the terrorist organization known as 'Vox Solaris'
>Cooperation will not incur punishment
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eh.. i guess it could've been worse
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>selling stuff in dojo
>wf on main screen,image generator on the other
>generate a bunch of degenerate shit
>copypaste some prompts
>forgot i usually copypaste a "thank you for your purchase" into my client's chat
>almost pressed enter on some extremely questionable prompt list
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>>563822112
You could've done it in one post you know, no need to wait for cooldown
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>create market entry for 80p
>first they undercut by 1 so 79
>then it's 75
>then it's 70
>then it's 69
>then it's 65
>current price is 60
>in just 15 minutes people have tanked 25% of the original price
lol
lmao even
i love xiabaolao,zhang huan and his friends
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https://about.openwf.io/
anyone has experience with this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzwepUrbic8
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>you can die in the guilty while its transitioning phases and it stuns you unable to move
>happened 6 times now, in every phase including the last one, twice
Can someone tell Rebs sagging tits to stop sucking off the LADS characters and fix the fucking game already
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>>563827097
BRIGETTE?
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>>563827223
nah, just random oc
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SAAAR!
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>do ETA
>Revenant and Hildryn in team, me as Inaros and some other guy I forgot already but must have been something meta and boring too
>literally impossible to die
>everyone pops oncalls and Kahls, 3 people including me pop ancient protector for Defense
>actually boring as fuck
>get 2 escapists, elemental vice and 2 normal sharts as rewards
this had to be the most boring, saddest ETA I ever played
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>>563828326
*blocks your path*
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>>563828473
the haggiest
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hmm, it sims slightly better over critical delay vs over primed cryo rounds, like +5%, and it frees me from cold.. finally an upgrade
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>>563831635
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>https://www.twitch.tv/kalon75
Kalon75 is live
Drop:
1. 30m - Domestik Caliber Dronei don't know if there's time, i'm super late sorry
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>vtumor
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>>563832249
wtf, vtumor that actually plays the game outside of orbiter/relays?
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Good morning tenno the day has finally come
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>>563833885
how is it bricked if he picks them all eventually?
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>>563832249
nice
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>>563835649
Why are you wasting mod slots on something she can already do by default
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>>563836214
you are going to be holding right click to aim and shoot while in the air anyway, you're basically wasting a whole ability slot that could be eclipse and increase your damage to billions
do not talk to me shitter
never reply to me again
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Good mods, trash otherwise
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>>563809636
>Okay we gave voruna the shortest invis in the game
>What's the upside?
>Oh I know, also make it drop everytime she casts an ability
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he's killing the market!
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cool baro, cool..
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>>563838556
great content...
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>>563823158
Replying this quickly before anyone even accuses you already tells me whose really behind this russchizo
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>>563813178
ign?
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frame for this feel?i dont like gauss
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>>563812681
I think it actually is bugged, and de has not bothered to fix it.
Reminder that for years, probably close to a decade, Atlas' shields would take damage while he was punching, and it was only a year or two ago did they "bugfix" it so Atlas has an actual grey bar while punching.
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Oh bless you Baro!
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>>563840885
>only 100k
Pre jade shadows maybe.
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>>563841558
why? they're quite chill and a nice break from the usual boring ones
>>563841276
have both, not very impressed
>>563841540
thx i should give him a tryagain
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>>563841904
but they are piss easy and boring, worst part is that they put actual good arcanes in there so it's always going to be worth + i am still missing nokko and i have to do it anyways
idk how to do them without falling asleep
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>>563841657
volt is I think the fastest (running) frame if you build him right and loki used to have the fastes base speed before gauss came out. Not sure if there are other fast runners, that aren't gimmicky at least, vauban has a speed boost I think but I never used him besides for mastery
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Somebody give me an actual decent limbo build that doesn't troll my team, please.
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>>563842635
>they are piss easy and boring
I make it more interesting by speedrunning it and trying to beat my best time every run
It ended up being pretty fun and I did way more runs than I really needed to by accident
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>>563843292
If you understand how to play Limbo you won't troll your team
If you don't understand how to play Limbo and you're concerned about trolling your team then play solo instead
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>try to fish for unrolled incarnon rivens since i couldn't find one with the right polarity on the market for decent price (at the time)
>they want to sell me 150plat atomos rivens with D polarity
>all of them are console mrlets
get cancer honestly
i haven't seen a console player that wasn't a nigger or a scammer or both
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>>563843783
it's a snapshot of real past that was altered the moment entrati enetered and looped upon itself by the power of drifter fist and now completely separate from actual timeline
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>>563843783
Yes and no? Most likely changing the past just creates a new timeline and doesn't affect the one we're originally from because then that would mean Warframes existed before the Old War but then again the Vessels in Albrecht's lab(which are the Hex) seem to remember what happened with the Drifter. I stopped trying to follow this shit seriously when muh eternalism was added.
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By the fact that we enter as drifter, who is known already as something of a paradox that exists alongside the operator, it's hard to tell. Even if we go by the original dark sector timeline or even listen to how Albrecht apparently went back in time to seed infestations for his cause... it seems like we caused infestations to crop up while also having at least a few naturally occurring spawns, iirc.
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>>563844175
bruh
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>>563817565
Kek I agree with this anon >>563818184 bigger isn't always better bud
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>>563844285
God imagine sex with Aoi in her vessel form
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>>563844285
>Tau is a big open world like Xenoblade where we pilot the giant vessels
Would this be kino?
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>>563845095
only for initial unskippable two hour long main quest and then back to grinding bounties
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>>563845095
Ah yes, another gimmick update. Genius idea.
If it doesn't let me prestige steel path to increase the starting levels by 200 each time or 10 missions on a sick new sentient tileset, that's a proxy indicator that they have dropped the ball
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>>563845607
Kinda
They fucked with the cloudwalker interaction to make it less spammable. Now you have to do normal slams in between each cloudwalker cast
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>2026
>I am forgotten
Frame for this feel?
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Post em
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>>563822909
A few days ago 4chan went down for like two hours before all the posts that were made in that timeframe all got posted at the exact same time.
Then for awhile if you made a post the captcha would lag forever and not let you post, only for the post to show up like a minute later but not claimed as yours.
I think we're still feeling the affects from that now.
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>double affinity weekend that stacks with affinity boosts
stop procrastinating and level your shit!
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>>563843346
Because he's the last frame I haven't leveled and its double xp weekend
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Thanks
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>>563856182
is there a way to redo some of the beginning stuff? I played a little years back, sporadically tried playing again and I have no idea what's going on in the story. What's this 1999 thing, is that some prequel event?
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what can i do with aya?
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>>563856326
you can replay any story quest and most of the other ones. only thing you can't replay are operations which were one time events that had some story content but mostly got rolled into the main game and raids which are just gone.
1999 is not a prequel story, it's late game timey-wimey bullshit. don't worry about it
you can replay the quests from the codex screen in your orbiter. It's best to look up the quest order on the wiki, the in game menu doesn't explain it very well
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>>563858005
blame larian and rebbs obsession with VA's of characters she gooned to
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>>563813090
i like my banshee, shame she's kinda shit
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>>563856048
The earlier the better because you miss out on stuff
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Free axis
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>>563861085
well.. it's kind of a monkey paw situation here..
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>>563861397
DON'T DO IT
DO NOT VISIT HIS ORBITER
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>>563861591
look at what he did to your waifu, look at her!
https://vocaroo.com/1blm7v8641Twhttps://wiki.avakot.org/Alora/Quotes
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>>563855560
they are both kinda meh but you objectively get more out of the gaus bundle (2 more items)
grendel has ephemera which is more usable for a bunch of frames since it doesn't clip, but the syandana is really lame
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>>563862262
>on your neck
he hasn't checked his scrotum..
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>>563862126
Ayo a bird cunny wife with feet showing?! I hate you less now Steve
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>https://www.twitch.tv/bafta
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ7WPbZkfKM
BAFTA Games Awards 2026 is live
Rewards:
1. 15m - 2026 BAFTA Games Awards Badge*
*only by watching on twitchneither warframe nor de is nominated in any category; i just thought it might interest some of you
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>>563863557
Already on it
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How have you guys decorated your captain's quarters?
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>>563863557
mature audience only... how riveting
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>>563864218
I have Eidolon and Orb Taker models on the shelves. On one side of the window is the glass prison, and on the other side is the Inaros quest urn, on a Pedestal Prime. Up on the wall, there are the placards for MR30 and L1. I'm 300some away from L2 test, so I'll put another one up there later.
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>all those unc losers whining about Baro
>meanwhile I got 3 new essential primed mods
Thanks Baro you are my greatest ally
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>>563867872
According to eternalism, Min and Vel are both together and not together.
I fucking hate this, by the way. "Multiple coexisting realities that cross over each other" is godawful writing that opens up so much room for plot holes.
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>>563868953
The Opticor, and the Vandal version used to both be pretty good and really fun weapons. The Charge and automatically fire version of the trigger was really nice, and frankly the guns just look really, really good. these days you can make them work, but with the mods you're putting into them a lot of other weapons would just work better. The Tenet Ferrox fires the same way and just works better (though I slap a recoil mod on there)
If you like how the weapon works? Go for it, I still take my Opticor Vandal out for a spin every now and then. It's not like you actually lose anything by investing in a weapon.
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>I fucking hate this, by the way. "Multiple coexisting realities that cross over each other" is godawful writing that opens up so much room for plot holes.
Eternalism is the idea that all aspects of time are equally real. The Past is just as real as the present and the future, rather than presentism that views the future as not yet real, and the past as essentially "dead" and unable to be changed. That changes that could have been made in the past are just as real as the current present you exist in, and any different outcomes in the future are also equally as real.
It's "Minerva and Velimir are a couple and are not a couple" not "there are multiple universes in which Minerva and Velimir are a couple or not a couple."
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>Doing Conjunction Survival
>Notice two players left the grouping spot and are halfway across the map
>Follow them to keep everything grouped
>Get back into the rhythm of killing things
>Notice they left to go back to the OG grouping point
>They didn't even leave to get the speed up item
Is there some mechanic I'm missing or am I just playing a frame that people don't want to group with (Valkyr)
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>pub ETA
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>>563875002
Learn to use the archive, newfag
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/563809636/#563874448
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Alright anons, i randomly got 2 argon during alert so I have to use it on something. Which prime do i craft next? Grendel is already in the oven.
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Are there any uses for stance forma that are borderline mandatory? I was just gonna slap it on a sword but I can't tell if Iron Phoenix is worth it. It's just more controllable than Swooping Falcon but less swooping strikes so less "AoE"
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Harrow is my boi. I still need to slam an Umbra on him.
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>The tenet arca plasmor is a crit weapon
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>>563876556
you speen to activate razor mortar and let your luggas do the work. 80% of the time, you dont even see who theyre killing.
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I HATE FOLLIE'S SOUND EFFECTS
I HATE THEM
She is an INK PAINTER FRAME, why does it sound like the fucking circus is in town whenever she's in a squad, I played her to 30 and fed her to Audrey II because I couldn't fucking stand the giggling and honking and balloon popping what the fuck it sounds like a goddamn AUTISM ASMR
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>>563877526
Don't like it? Play solo.
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>I hate clussy
How gay
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>see video saying you can use ballistica prime's passive to get double scans
>comments complaining that the weapon is useless and you can't get kills with it anyway
Warframe players really do not know how to play. I took this thing into the sp Jade event with 2 seperate builds and it held up as a standalone weapon just fine, no outside buffs. I'd get if they were saying it's bad because it's single target or that the specter is useless but no they legitimately are so ass at modding that they think it can't do what it's made to do.
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>>563878624
Lets do this slowly for you. The comments are complaining that they can't get even get single target kills with the weapon. They aren't complaining that it isn't meta, or some aoe nuke. We aren't talking about rate of kills here, we're talking about pointing the gun at an enemy's head, and shooting. They can't even get it to do that, something it's specifically designed for. It's user error on their part. It's like complaining that you can't get a single target kill with a Daikyu prime.
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>>563814803
what if you draw cards based on what enemies you kill or something. like how original grendel feast concept depended on what enemies you ate (i think that was a grendel thing? i might be hallucinating)
>kill three troopers and two fliers = full house
>trooper, heavy, flier/drone, animal/moa, and
>eximus counts as a joker to fill in any other hand
this is stupid but i actually kinda like it even if it's probably awful to play with
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>>563866213
Half of the game's plot happens because of a narcissist retard repurposed himself a robot gf and couldn't cope with it choosing children over him.
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>>563879649
What's gay about appreciating the best skin in the game?
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>>563879270
jesus christ are you two faggots literally eight years old?
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>>563877794
yes that is exactly what i was thinking of actually, mixed with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4KNd0Yv6d0
I HATE IT
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>play solo
>can now ONLY hear the giggles and rubber hammers without teammates' guns to overpower them
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>>563879808
I imagine that they are flirting with each other and this is code for them for kiss blowing.
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I feel like if someone showed Rebb this she would just force the team to add a Balatro frame tomorrow.
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>>563878389
You're retarded so let me try to explain this again in a way you can understand. Saying ballistica can't kill single targets is like saying chroma is bad for credit farming. Wether or not either of these are bad at the current horde shooter state of the game is irrelevant because that's not what they're calling bad. What they're calling bad is just a self report at their inability to mod.
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>like how original grendel feast concept depended on what enemies you ate
it was nourish's buffs that depended on what grendel ate, basic ranged = energy buff, basic melee = retaliation, heavy unit/summoned/flying = damage buff
the rework rolled all of the effects into one
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>>563880645
Just keep it and force it to be good so you can pull it out every now and then. I don't get this obsession with throwing everything away that isn't the absolute best of the best. May as well throw everything but your laetum away. I keep all the guns I have fun with and try to experiment with their limitations. 12p really is not that much for 2 extra slots.
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>>563880934
Her prex looks very different from what we got. The ink was always there, but clearly they went through some design changes before release and when the prex was drawn.
Voruna is another example, her tits are majorly nerfed from the prex version.
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>they added syndicate honorias
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>>563875728
Harrow goes into the oven, i like his energy mechanic.
>>563875964
Garuda never really clicked with me.
>>563880435
The basic versions of those frames already have proper builds so im not really missing out anything. I just stopped playing before they had primes.
From the primes i dont have i really used to like ivara, equinox and nidus but by now they are just not great frames.
I wish Ivara was useful in the current state of the game because she looks nice design wise and was fun to play. I might make her next just because her prime looks cool too.
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love how this retard just completely ignores this reply too. this is legitimately as simple as I can make it, now he has to backtrack and act like the comments he hasn't even seen mean something else.
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>>563881763
I feel like the arm and shin shit on the left is clearly supposed to be paint brush bristles, and different from the ink on her thighs and shoulder (which looks a lot like Saryn's infested bits), and as usual the 3D team at DE looked at concept art and went 'aduhhhhhhhhh' and decided it should all be ink/octopus tentacles.
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>>563881763
Will you ever post your retarded comparison image with your own in game screen shot of her facing forward instead of a compressed youtube dev stream screenshot or is being disingenuous a profession for you?
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>>563882257
I made the topic retard, you're the one missing the point incredibly hard. see:
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>>563881941
>could have had a strongfat landwhale amazon warrior woman, the pelvis destroying child of hildryn and grendel
>instead the body type has been wasted on a sad clown
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>>563881971
He looks cool and I enjoy playing him
Does there need to be any other reason?
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>Voruna is another example, her tits are majorly nerfed from the prex version
I said the same thing forever ago yet niggers didn't believe me.
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>>563882468
Grendel needs enemies to not be vore-immune to function. He already does well from base steelpath all the way up even to levelcap because gastro exists, but he struggles specifically when there are enemies that cannot be eaten, or require him to specifically deal enough damage to break enemy overguard without killing them afterwards.
Also, teammates killing enemies.
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nourish's weapon and energy bonus doesn't scale and that's all grendel is used for
>yeah but the damage scales-
in the time it takes 5 enemies to digest, your teammates- or you- have killed 500 with guns and other abilties
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>in the time it takes 5 enemies to digest, your teammates- or you- have killed 500 with guns and other abilties
Bro what are you talking about? His 4 is a nuke that directly scales with enemy health. At level 1000 it one taps entire rooms till levelcap.
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>>563882797
here, open up
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>>563883074
Chroma doesn't suck. He's not your mom.
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>>563882789
Grendel's regurgitate scales with enemy health more than strength. Gastro lets it deal actual damage and lets Grendel get a high amount of killsas long as the enemies are not immune to his one and his teammates are not preventing him from eating themfuck you khora stop being in every mission I am in when I play grendel.
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>>563883718
Shooting a single enemy to strip overguard from a crowd isn't hard bro. Besides there is never a situation in this game where you can't find a single enemy to suck up. The game never reaches 100% overguard unit mix even on eximus stronghold levelcap.
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>first ability requires an unreasonable amount of investment to make it mediocre at killing base steel path enemies.
>second ability is better on other frames.
>third ability is his only decent one.
>fourth ability is the worse ability in the game and the only thing keeping it from being the de facto helminth slot on every single chroma build is so people can use it exactly one time in specific missions to boost credits.
>every single one of these abilities disablegrey barwhen chroma goes into operator form.
Why not just play Rhino or Mirage if you are not farming credits?
You do know that pretending that a frame does not suck just means that de is less inclined to rework them?
>but I like playing them.
In that case, why buff a frame ever?
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>You do know that saying a frame doesn't suck on 4chan means DE will base their business decisions on it, right?
Get a grip on reality.
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>>563885323
Thermal sunders damage got capped in the helminth versionbecause de hates fun,so outside of low-level missions or specific frames like nezha (for the spread from divine retribution) or Rhino (because roar), it is hard to make it deal actual significant damage in higher level missions.
But yes, you just use heat mode forever because the cold mode is a hinderance with the damage cap.
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tak on the 'log anyway dj mag song of the day is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GpiU8AmZag
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>>563864218
Just a little
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>>563884273
Pain
missed out on plague star last year and i ran through my stockpile of 100+ leveling random shit since old piss came out
i'm about to resort to farming rare caches
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>Smash heat until bar is max then alternate if using Gauss
except heat decharges your bar
you get to 100% redline then spam heat for damage and armor shred, then do one cold to instantly deal the remaining heat dot damage
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How do you like my orbiter?
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>>563886334
I love my husband
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>>563886462
I turned your husband into a woman and now impregnated him. Your response?
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>>563886867
it still requires shooting the furis instead of just running through enemies and setting them on fire
and 99% of enemies will die from just the heat sunder, blast is necessary for like high level steel path eximus
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>>563886841
No because blonde nun with giant ass, but a female waifu would have been more popular. Unless you are going specifically for the female gacha game market where the game tracks your period, and I do not think de is brave enough to do that.
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>>563884004
>first ability requires an unreasonable amount of investment to make it mediocre at killing base steel path enemies.
Doesn't matter, he's a tank/weapon platform not a spellcaster. Why the fuck would you
>second ability is better on other frames.
Elemental ward is pretty fucking good on Chroma too, I have no idea what the fuck your point is
>third ability is his only decent one.
Third ability is good, atleast we agree on that
>fourth ability is the worse ability in the game
doesn't matter, he's a tank / weapon platform not a spellcaster. (also im pretty sure the title of "worst ability in the game" goes to golden instinct)
It sounds like you just don't like the weapon platform archetype, which is fine, but just because you don't like something doesn't automatically make it bad.
I fucking hate Nokko for example, I think his whole concept is fucking stupid and I don't enjoy playing him at all
but at the same time I also know that alot of players think he's great even if I don't particularly like him myself
Does this mean Nokko needs to be changed? No, he can continue to exist as he is no matter how shitty I think he is
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>>563887542
I'm not meant for this world
You'll never control me
I'm not meant for this world
You'll never control me
Cherishing these rotten lives
Fracturing and brutalize
Punishing and paralyze
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>Doesn't matter, he's a tank/weapon platform not a spellcaster. Why the fuck would you
Having one ability be an immediate dead weight is not off the a great start.
>Elemental ward is pretty fucking good on Chroma too, I have no idea what the fuck your point is
Toxin elemental ward scales with enemy health and shines better on other frames that can better utilize it such as nezha because of divine retribution, lavos because of his passive, and rhino because roar.
>doesn't matter, he's a tank / weapon platform not a spellcaster.
Having two/three abilities being deadweight, especially when one of them makes the 'tank' part significantly harder with no real upsides, is an issue. Why wouldn't you just use rhino or mirage, who have much better abilities?
>(also im pretty sure the title of "worst ability in the game" goes to golden instinct)
Golden Instinct has the caveat of being useful in doing what it is meant to do, like helios scanning enemies, oxylus for fishing/crates, or effigy specifically when used for farming credits.
>It sounds like you just don't like the weapon platform archetype.
Rhino, Harrow and Styanax are some of my most played frames, and my most played frame is Loki.
I know Loki sucks and I do not pretend otherwise.
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>>563887542
*guitar noises*
NOW PICK A SIDE
*genocide anything that moves for 5 mins for ability kill challenges*
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Death is a certified vaxine
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>>563890168
>vax the entire citystate
>entire citystate of warframe people
What would happen? Would they become organized like the tenno? Would they become power hungry and obliterate themselves in a war? Would they conquer other neighboring countries?The idea kinda reminds me of what's going to happen soon in Invincible
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I love Victor and his rants. But he's so underutilized in 1999.
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>>563888759
This entire argument can be broken down to a difference in opinion over
>A Frame just needs to be capable of doing its job to not suck
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>Why wouldn't you just use rhino or mirage, who have much better abilities?
This is bait right?
>Rhino Charge
useless
>Rhino Stomp
useless
>sleight of hand
useless outside of Sanctuary Onslaught
>Prism
useless
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>This is bait right?
>proceeds to post even bigger bait
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>>563891716
>ignoring iron skin and roar doing everything that chroma does but better
>ignoring chroma being unable to even use roar unless he wants to give up his only decent ability
>thinking rhino stomp is useless
Cute! CUTE!
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>they didnt buff harrow when they released his prototroon
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
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>ignoring that all three frames have 2 good abilities and 2 mediocre/bad abilities and the entire argument hinged on 'if two abilities are bad, then the frame is bad'
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>make Lasting Covenant base so your teammates can prolong it with the Tribunal augment
>hold to cancel after initial duration runs out for greybar fags
>4 augment now gives half the fire rate and reload speed from Penance to teammates
There, I fixed him. Now he can support again.
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>>make Lasting Covenant base so your teammates can prolong it with the Tribunal augment
Lasting Covenant changes how the ability functions and is one of the few augments that have an actual reason to exist.
>>hold to cancel after initial duration runs out for greybar fags
You want Harrow to be a permanent grey bar frame?
>but then you lose the crit buff.
A lot of people will not care.
>>4 augment now gives half the fire rate and reload speed from Penance to teammates
An augment overhaul is desperately needed, it is not just a harrow issue.
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>>563893870
Trust me I am well aware how roar works
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>>563893214
>Nah I ain't giving the shitter more than I already do.
Then nothing changes, except you get a free slot.
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It would not make him a gay bar frame. You would only be able to dispel Covenant after it's initial duration, but not after its duration after extended by headshots. If anything, it would make gray barring more annoying to do.
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>>563893985
It gets inserted multiple times into each damage calculation if your weapon uses any element. So while you might see a 50% roar buff for almost every element this gets multiplied 2/3 times in the damage equation. For example 100+50%=150+50% for final damage in the simplest equation with no element applied. It's just the number you see in on your hud. Chroma just does a final damage buff added at the end.
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I can't believe I just got permabanned from this game for arguing with a tranny over region chat. Fortunately someone at DE gave me another(last one lel) chance and reduced it to two weeks.
These DE guys, they used to visit 4chan don't they; what happened?
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>>563894523
I'm pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about. I literally helped write the wiki on Vex armor and did a lot of the testing for it back when Vex armor was reworked
I'm telling you its a better damage amp than roar because I know it for a fact.
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>>563873475
This is ultimately the same problem though, from a writing standpoint. If all possibilities can coexist, what prevents the story from becoming a sprawling mess of truly anything that could be/could have been?
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>>563894601
You didn't read the code of conduct, huh? You can't act surprised when you get punished for doing stuff you very specifically were told not to do.
>I didn't read that shit!
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>B-but the troons-
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>>563895906
I said something similar a week ago. I have no idea why so many new helminth abilities are so trash. Who is ever going to pick follies subsume when eclipse (and even null star on low range builds) exist?
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>>563881763
I find interesting how sometimes Warframe updates function as allegories for certain situations across its development.
Just to glare a few of the most obvius ones, like Duviri story is Steve abandoning Warframe realm and leaving a puppet that is Reb in charge.
Or some minor ones like Flare and Kaz Adams coming out the closet and Follie with Charly (the cute voice from Prime Time that did a face reveal 2 months ago and ended being a fat ugly chick)
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>>563896293
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You missed the part where eternalism only exisrs for the Operator/Drifter. If it was real for everyone the Orokin would have won the war. After the Zariman eternalism collapsed into one reality. That's why the Indifference can't win and gets mad at you. Because of the deal the Operator/Dr8fter has dibs on what reality is the canon one. So unles YOU don't reset 1999 Val and Minerva aren't in a different relationship in another reality. Such a reality dosen't exiat without your action.
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>>563897067
Your logic is backwards. Roar/eclipse/nourish are all people pick because 90% of subsumes are garbage or only work on hyper specific builds. And even then DE nerfs niche shit like sand kavat volt. So yeah, of course everybody is just going to pick the half a dozen useful abilities.
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>You don't know how Roar works.
I know how roar works dumbass
Vex armor is a better weapon damage buff and the only thing you need to tell you that is a fucking calculator
Not to mention Chroma absolutely assblasts Roar whenever using anything with GunCO because of how that stupid shit works with base damage multipliers
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>>563897440
>I know how roar works
Clearly not.
>Vex armor is better
Doesn't affect status damage, so no it's not.
>Of course it affects elemental damage
Then maybe you shouldn't say it doesn't: >>563894662
Retard.
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>>563897428
They are "garbage" because they will always be constantly compared to those 3. Its like calling anything not an incarnon garbage because the incarnons are so strong. At least more than half of the subsumes in the game are useful if people were forced to use them and be creative instead of just lazily slapping on the 3 things that work on everything with minimal investment. Those 3 subsumes are antithesis of what the helminth system is supposed to be for
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>>563897782
Bro
You don't actually understand how roar works
It applies once to elemental damage
It applies twice to status damage
it DOES NOT apply twice to elemental damage as suggested here >>563894379
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Retard. Roar inserts into every single damage calculation in the game. Status and element. It even increases secondary damage instances caused by statuses on adjecant enemies. It even insert itself multiple times in skills if a skill has a multiple sources of scaling outside of pure ability strength. Ir's not a damage increase but a universal formula modifier.
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It currently is since it affects every source of damage to my knowledge like weapons and abilities. When they removed the self damage aspect so we couldn’t use vex armor to buff ourselves anymore, roar overtook it in my eyes even if in theory vex is better. I’d rather a consistent boost to everything over needing to take damage to get buffed
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Roar affects status damage twice, because it affects base damage, which affects status damage, including any elemental damage a weapon has, and by increasing status damage directly as well, because it's universal faction damage. That's what makes it better than Vex Armor, because Vex increases status damage by increasing base damage, but doesn't increase status damage again in addition to that. Roar is better.
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Mirage with akarius and energized munitions is the most fun I had in the game for quite awhile, unloading 20+ rockets in two-three second burst with your clones doing the same is insane. I even finally turned off screen shake because my screen was shaking so much I got nauseous. Hope the dudes I was running fissures with enjoyed all those fireworks.
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>>563897909
The problem is DE just picks the worst abilities to make subsumes for new frames. Nokko was an exception, as his mushroom offers you an alternative path for if your build wanted dispensary but didn't actually care about ammo. Those are the kind of subsumes they need to be doing more of. Something that isn't strictly OP, but is at least fucking useful.
If you removed eclipse/roar/norish today there would still be nobody who uses citrines shitty pocket sand move.
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>>563897067
>grendel requires an enemy in order to use nourish, which makes this ability nearly useless or actually useless for him in railjack, many boss fights, and low enemy density missions.
>helminth version does not have this restriction.
Going into a boss fight where there are no enemies to vore as grendel and watching as my teammates are casting nourish freely is extremely annoying.
>>563898465
Making a frame feel better to play will increase the amount of people who play that frame.
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>>563894601
>These DE guys, they used to visit 4chan don't they; what happened?
They're Canadian, possibly the most woke country on the globe, and though I love Rebb she is a woman and will therefore be gigawoke compared to her male peers. Furthermore, moderation of any game is always infiltrated by troons because they have more free time than regular employed people and better social skills than NEET incels who might challenge them. It is the price we pay.
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Reminder that Grendel does not have a passive.
>yes he does he gets armor from his one.
That is not a passive. That is an additional function of his first ability.
How many frames have their "passive" disabled if they get nullified?This is party a genuine question.
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>>563898732
The primary thing is making his grey bar augment part of his base kit. His grey bar already goes on for too long to me. And his abilities already buff teammates as much as they need to with infinite energy and health. The only thing that I’d like would be the fire rate buff for everyone else but after they nerfed Volt’s speed that’s not gonna happen
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>That Mathila. Funny how she has a smile on her face every morning. I'm sure one of the lads could tell us more
Drifterbros...
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>>563898782
>Making a frame feel better to play will increase the amount of people who play that frame.
Yes but it will only be marginal as people who don't jive with grendel with just put his subsume on a frame they prefer and call it a day. Hydroid, Oberon, vauban and Inaros have been made better to play and they still aren't common. If a kit doesn't vibe with people no amount of broken buffs or rework is gonna get them to play them long term in large swaths unless they enable some sort of lazy afk play like hildryn
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>>563899151
This is why Stalker's kid should be a fully modular frame, I want to see if it's possible to make useless abilities worth something when you can use them along with any other helminth abilities you want.
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>>563899445
In nezha's own kit he already has status cleanse and status invuln through warding halo. Stat cleanse by itself is useless anyway as it comes with every form of late game survivability already. It really is just on gauss to look cool.
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>>563899427
>The primary thing is making his grey bar augment part of his base kit. His grey bar already goes on for too long to me.
I agree, but the augment doesnt give Grey bar. The grey bar is already lart of his base kit. The augment prolongs the critical bonus when you get a headshot. It would only need to be cancellable after initial duration in case you mess up your first cast. but your right, it could be too much greybar because then you can get infinite crit and grey bar on demand. so i guess they would have to reduce the duration or something.
>And his abilities already buff teammates as much as they need to with infinite energy and health.
its just a 17.5% fire rate buff at the cost of an augment slot. what would be really cool is the reload speed, though.
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Rough draft of cardslinger frame, rate and hate
>Passive, a nearby target is highlighted every x seconds. This target killing gives you a card. Cards are drawn from a deck of 52 with no dupes, after drawing the last card of your deck it's refilled and and you gain a bonus to credits gained for the rest of the mission. You can only hold 5 cards at a time and can't draw cards while at max. Each suite of cards give you a different bonus that scales of its number, face cards give unique bonuses too
>First ability, Coin Flip. You flip a coin to summon your exalted pistol Lucky 7 or rifle Long Odds. Lucky is hard capped at 6 rounds, the 7th round tosses the gun like a grenade, dealing damage to equal to the 6 shots to everyone nearby. Long Odds is a "punchthrough: yes" sniper
>Second ability, Deal Out. Removes your newest card to give its buff to all teammates
>Third ability, Card Toss. Tap to toss your oldest card dealing damage based off the card. Hold to toss your newest
>Fourth ability, Reveal. Removes all cards from your hand to deal a large aoe around you plus extra effects if you made any hands
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