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GGST 2.0 and Jam starter guide
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>UPCOMING
2.0 bracket set for april 18th 5pm est
global tournament
double elimination ft3
register HERE
https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/VW257aRG8F#/signup/f28yvue9lf

GGST 2.0 and Jam are live!
Blazing battle pass: May
Robo=Ky: Summer

>RESOURCES
Main wiki with frame data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.com
Fighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/
Deflect Shield OS tech: https://youtu.be/zmQeJLe_w9U [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>Replay Uploaders
https://replaytheater.app/?game=xrd
https://replaytheater.app/?game=acpr
https://replaytheater.app/?game=strive

>Xrd/+R/#R/ML Resources
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/
https://github.com/YouKnow232/ggxxacpr_overlay/releases
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGXRD-R2/Resources
https://github.com/WistfulHopes/ggml_public/releases

>Current GGST Patch 2.0 (April 9th)
https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2851/

>Guilty Gear Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/

>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive mods
Potato Mod Lite: https://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/
Potato Low Spec: https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/
Frame Data Display/Replay Takeover 1.49+: https://github.com/WistfulHopes/UE4SSMods/releases/tag/replay-0.2.4

State region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!

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https://x.com/gcyoshi13/status/2045005405953364079
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>>563822585
the deb v gio webm all over again
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ENOUGH, FROM THE GRANBLUE TARDS
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>>563823370
what if we merged the two threads
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>>563823410
Bringing back /aswg/? Lesgooo.
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>>563823410
there's no merging the two threads
this is a /gbvsg/ colony
it is known
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I lasted a week. I've reached that point where most of the time I just feel apathy regardless of winning or losing, so I know it's time to quit.
Sometimes I still have fun when I win and get mad wben I lose but most of the time I'm just wondering why am I not doing something else.
Patch's pretty good though. Hopefully they keep at it instead of adding more kuso shit every patch. Reception seems very positive.
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played unika today. she seems cool. kara 214K seems a little rough compared to 236/623 specials.
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What if they added Akuma to strive?
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I am so lonely and horny, thank you for reading my post
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>>563825606
Here's a (You) I guess.
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So what news moves do guys like for the remaining characters in the roster that don't have a new move yet?

>Base Roster - Millia Rage
>DLC Season 1 - Goldlewis, Jack-O, Happy Chaos, Baiken, Testament
>DLC Season 2 - Bridget, Sin, Bedman, Asuka
>DLC Season 3 - Johnny, Elphelt, ABA, Slayer
>DLC Season 4 - Dizzy, Venom, Unika, Lucy
>DLC Season 5 - Jam
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lmfao some guy was playing Venom and used Dark Angel against me. I was playing Zato and Broke the Law right underneath it. The fucking guy immediately DC'd. Fuck that cracked me right up.
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>>563826189
What if Johnny got coins in addition to the cards
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so who are the biggest fraudsters of this patch?
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>>563826189
you really wanna give Slayer something else?
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>>563826189
Venom feels incomplete without his teleport
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>>563826189
milla got a new move tho
elphelt basically has a new move in charged gun shot
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It's time to bring back pineberry grenade
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No it isn't.
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>>563826189
bedman's teleport
he was the most dependent on WA and with its removal dash block match ups feel like hell
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Been like 3 years since I hosted a lobby here. Wonder if I'll see any old faces

ID:133458
Ft3
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>>563826780
Bringing back Crosswise Heel or Helter Skelter would be cool.
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>>563822210
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Kek. Anyway how's Chipp in strive now?
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if you think about it, Arcsys is legally obligated to revert HC and ABA, a person buying those characters with the (now false) impression of them being top tiers got scammed out of his money
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>>563828613
I kinda do agree unironically in a way that HC shouldn't have been fully reworked like he was. He's not the same character people bought before. Regardless of his tier placement.
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https://x.com/Kizzie_Kay/status/2044937255224283626
Why is this guy lying again. GGST Jam is not broken like her previous versions.
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Kizzie was a big fish in a small dish, and now he's getting just desserts
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i have 700 hours on bedman on this game and i didnt know he could superjump. i assumed he wasn't able to for some reason
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>>563829503
superjumping has always been relevant for bedman because it let's him hover faster and that means faster triangle jump attacks
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>>563829447
das gawdlike
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>>563829782
holy shit
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It's strange. I used to watch Kizzie's videos leading up to Strive's release and he's largely a factor in why I actually wanted to play the game. I found the Kizzie jokes funny and he played Ky who was pretty respectable to play back then when the top tiers were quite dominant. I actually thought he was one of the best players since he made it look easy and managed to place well a few times in big tourneys, but now I just watch him play and know that I've kinda surpassed him in this game a long time ago. I suppose that's what happens when you play while other people don't. You get better and they get worse. Basically, it's allowed me to see that the only difference between "pros" and you is the amount of time you put in and the gene
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Never meet your chef.
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I got placed too low for ranked and now I'm like 20/24
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>>563827960

Room died to inactivity. Will try again during better hours
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>>563831032
How's your connection to oce? Also I'm silver.
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so why was nogor given a new half screen low special that paused his blood gauge that's supposed to be his crucial weakness that now allows him to ape out to close a round in a 2.5-touch game?
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I fear Axl is too good now
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So is Vanquisher the elo rank? Is it hard to reach in this game like in SF6 or Granblue? What rank are most players right now?
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>>563831420
In sf6 you fail upwards and can reach master with 40% winrate, i doubt it's the same here
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>>563831420
>So is Vanquisher the elo rank?
Yes
>Is it hard to reach in this game like in SF6 or Granblue?
Much like every fighting game ranking system, reaching Vanquisher is more of an inevitability than anything if you play long enough because you gain more points winning than you do losing but once you acutally reach Vanquisher you can lose more than you win if you lose to someone of lower elo.
>What rank are most players right now?
Pic rel
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>>563831069

I think its good to give everyone at least one shot just to see. I'll go ahead and make a new one

ID: 648248
Ft3
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>>563831643
is /ggg/ in the autism club?
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>>563831420
Shit, I meant "easy to reach". Mybad
>>563831529
You fall upwards in SF6. In Granblue, you are outright pulled into S++ with a 30% win rate.
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>>563831917
We have a handful
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>>563831917
We have one in top 100 I think
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>>563828807
>>563828613
HC never should've made it past the proof of concept phase due to his inherently poor design. He should've just gone the way of WA, and replaced with something else nobody will use.
His original design was a plague, and his change is objectively healthy for the game, regardless of what your stupid "they paid $5, so they're obligated to ruin the game forever, because 4 years wasn't enough" principles say.

If you felt that strongly about it, you'd be against all balance patches in general across all games, because any slight adjustment changes them from the character people initially bought.
There's nothing wrong with refining a product that the majority of people aren't happy with; if HC retained his original design, 2.0 wouldn't have attracted *any* new players.

Tekken just got its heavy nerf patch, and you see them bitching about "muh DLC changes"? No, they're actually celebrating for once.
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>>563828613
Happy Chaos is still top tier tho
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>>563832521
I mostly play games that are already complete so I do rather dislike patches changing so much about a character to the point they're not the same
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>>563832521
It's sad since while the concept for Happy Chaos is cool, it is inherently broken. Being able to frame 1 hit someone anywhere in the screen is such an absurd mechanic in a fighting game that it either is complete dogshit because it has either is made way too hard to use with setup or lack of use, or it's broken because it's too accessible and can't be played around. Even this season they fucked up by trying to make it still usable and have ended up making him giga busted again since he can lock you down anywhere if he has the execution. And even if the execution is too hard, he still has such dominance at fullscreen that you're constantly left at his whims. It doesn't help that he has some of the most absurd buttons in the game
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>>563833697
HC rework is like the drastic changes that would happen to Blazblue characters
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>>563832804
30% winrate and dropping
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>>563836594
You can't be serious. Of course the character with a high execution barrier is gonna have a low winrate especially when he was just reworked completely
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>>563828613
Abaniggers finally got what they paid for, normal mode was stronger than some other entire characters and now it's actually weak like it's supposed to be.
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I like how for the past 4 years Happy Chaos was actually easy as fuck and anyone could play him because he was just that broken but now that he's a steady aim bot NOW we're admitting he's actually very high execution and extremely difficult to play well
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>>563837076
....what? he got reworked...?
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>>563837179
AAAAAH MY FINGERS ARE BREAKING I CAN'T HANDLE SHOOTING THEN FOCUSING AIEEEE THIS IS SO MUCH HARDER THAN ANYTHING HE COULD DO BEFORE SAVE ME JACK SAMA
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>>563836873
The people complaining about new Aba are fucking insane for thinking the old needed everything it had. The character literally played itself because of how stupidly strong she was and never had real moments of "my turn is over"
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please ignore that old happy chaos could literally reload between every shot of steady aim while still comboing you
or that he used to not have the steady aim control shortcuts
or that he used to have one and two frame links
I'm sure pressing up and down for portals is just way too hard for the people that have been playing that character for years.
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>>563837787
It's funny because it's just the complete gapless jailing from fullscreen that is hard to do just because it's constant movement on the fingers. You eventually get a rhythm for it. You don't have to completely jail someone to just win since even if you leave a gap during some of it, what are they even gonna do? What character has options from fullscreen that allows them to interrupt Chaos within 10 frames at most? Nobody, and that's why he's still gigabusted
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>>563837649
mfw the weakku weaku normal mode had looping infinite plus frames
mfw weakku normal mode had a 4-framer that one the round on hit
mfw weakku weakku normal mode has evasive high low mix
mfw slow slow normal mode had 2 invincible dandy steps
mfw you start with gauge and it takes like 2 blocked slash buttons to get enough to win with
mfw this was all on a character with big body health
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>>563837787
>or that he used to have one and two frame links
he behaves practically the same as when he had to land the frame perfect input every steady shot
gapless fullscreen zoning that can't be approached because muh execution
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>one the round
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>>563838641
And these players have already played that version of the character, so why are they struggling so hard now on the patch where every other character got destroyed?
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>>563837649
>check Tiger's twitter
>he's still seething about the nerfs
>he's now playing jam
>tweets saying he won't be playing HC until they "fix" him
Some shitskins really thought they were worth something because of those top tiers
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>>563838786
Who is struggling? The people who are actually decent like Jack are showing off how stupid he still is. Carried niggers will lose on him since it takes them 10x as long as people with brains to learn how to hit buttons in the right order and how to win when it goes wrong. It's not like the talent pool is particularly large in the first place considering there are only a couple decent players on the easy as shit characters
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>>563838812
>the best HC is the only one who likes the character enough to stick with him through a rework
Jackkino...
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>>563838967
>only one who likes the character enough to stick with him through a rework
Lets be real. He was already trying other characters since he thought Chaos was gonna be shit. He's lucky that Chaos is actually still broken so he doesn't have to anymore. I would know since I beat him in ranked when he was trying Sol, who to be fair is also quite a bit worse than last patch
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>>563839158
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TOUCH ANY OTHER CHARACTERS
there's no winning with you people
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>>563839287
Are you retarded? You can pick any character you want, I was just addressing how he thinks that he was gonna stick with Chaos even if he was bad, which isn't true
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>Gio special needs child mushes his face on his controller and vomits a barrage of plus frames
One single low IQ charge special or churn butter pot buster takes infinitely more skill than what Giovanna players call """offense""". She represents everything wrong with modern fighters. Deport this brownoid to some third world kusoge.
>"B-But she's honest!"
Yeah, honestly braindead. You are not a glue-eater, but the entire crayon factory.
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They can make any change to Happy Chaos they want, just revert the distance nerf on 6S
The funniest attack in the game and they RUINED it
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>every single tierlist since 2.0 dropped had Testament either bottom2 or bottom1
Lmao as I said before, diamond1 testament is vanq 1k8 on every other character, so as a 1k6 I own all of your dogshit carried niggas in this general.
Don't even bother dropping the lobby I don't play with carried shitters like you.
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>>563840442
>preemptive dodge
didn't even bother going for an OS, just went straight for the start of round plug
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>>563840442
In strive?
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>>563840841
No in Isuka.
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>>563839569
Milliabro...
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I don't know why Kizzie is saying Jam is broken when she's definetely low tier and needs massive buffs.
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>>563841408
Millia takes skill
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>>563830234
kizzie was never really into strive, definitely never put the time effort he put into xrd
he just coasted off his fundamentals
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Thoughts on making LordKnight an honorary white?
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>>563842109
bonjour
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>>563842109
>LordJobber
>acting white
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I need to learn to use the movement options in this game, walking people down is not the play
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>>563842109
A real white man is weak to abgs not snowbunnies
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HOLY SHIT I just watched pre-nerf Aba Texas Showdown since I thought it was post patch for some reason this character's resource might as well have not existed what the actual fuck
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>>563843037
>abgs
arterial blood gas?
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>>563843037
Remember when LK's e-hentai tab leaked and literally all he had searched for was "Big_tits"?
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>>563843527
average somehow not porn rotted desires
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How to play El fat?
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>>563844515
Just spam behemoth whatever it’s called
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who the fuck edits this
this bitch is +R ABA unga
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>>563822442
when is ourmori coming back for 2.0
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Is ABA still a gorilla and a half in Strive?
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>>563844545
i think he speaks of el fat (thighs)
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>>563844637
ABA's kind of cooked, basically every top level player who played her thinks she's dead, not just the whiny ones

they decided to make it so that if she uninstalls by force she eats an optimal punish so now every time you make a simple mistake or guess wrong on your own offense you lose the round. she's still oppressive in JR until then though (normal mode sucks ass now)
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>>563844515
Button into dragon kick wall break and puffballs. She's busted.
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>>563844968
What the fuck is dragon kick
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>>563845114
he's talking about jam for whatever reason
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>>563844556
>Limited options for contesting air approaches
These have always been a joke but come the fuck on
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>>563845114
He's calling Jam fat cuz she got muffin tops now
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>>563846930
>Slayer not in tea tier
trolling outside of /b/
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>>563836594
issa low tier
https://x.com/V2_HelloWorldVV/status/2044683434938011661
arcsys reworked him
https://x.com/sanakan787/status/2043167037116338430
he's bad now
https://x.com/gcyoshi13/status/2045005405953364079
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>>563846930
Imagine the Jack-O' protein shake dumps...
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>>563845619
Making the second hit of her xbox hueg DP whiff grounded was so cash
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>>563847507
is that...
a roundstart to corner???
WITH FORTY PERCENT????
FOR 50 METER????????????????
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DAISUKE SAMA NO ONE ELSE IN GUILTY GEAR -STRIVE- CAN DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS
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>>563848168
>40
more like 30 cause of guts
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>>563844908
I'm going to make a big callout here and say top players in Strive do not even attempt to play a non "solved" version of gameplans and as a result have no fucking idea what they're talking about for the new version of the game.
Strive since it's release has been a solved game at the highest level, in the sense that you had ONE interaction at the start of the round to decide who the snowballer was and 75%+ of the time that person won the match.

Top players are ofcourse people who optimized their versions of "always being the snowballer" and securing their wins off the snowball.
So I have 0 faith in their ability to determine her strength or any other characters strength in a version of the game they no longer are optimized for but are still pretending it is.
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>>563846930
This is all kinds of wrong in minor infuriating ways
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Why are you like this?
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>>563846930
Pot has never been alluded to be some burly alcoholic like Sol would be.
He's actually an extremely intelligent pacifist, passionate about drawing and nature with a huge respect for hierarchy. He would either drink tea or water.
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>>563848559
You don't really have to think hard about it. Even looking at the texas showdown footage, ABA regularly didn't instantly sweep off of JR and got forced out by losing a neutral interaction. JR is not stable enough in strive for it to be worth the downside of "you instantly die if they make you block and you don't have the meter to try to escape"

pretty much every player who isn't a ranked player who wants her dead is saying something like "she needs to either lose this weakness or she needs more ways to prolong JR"
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>>563849530
he's also a jeet which means he drinks exclusively tea or poopwater
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>>563849530
pot would share a beer with the troops
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>>563847507
I know what you are
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2.0 bracket set for april 18th 5pm est
global tournament
double elimination ft3
register HERE
https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/VW257aRG8F#/signup/f28yvue9lf

ONE DAY UNTIL THE TOURNAMENT
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>>563823370
Grubbas and Strivers are both ArcSys enjoyers.
We are like brothers
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>>563850598
only closer...
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>>563837649
>>563838197
It’s funny I never got to play ABA pre-2.0 because I fell off at S3 and only just came back but I’m having a lot of fun as her right now. The JR payoff feels so good after the frantic early game of trying to have perfect defense and thread the needle for a counter hit. It’s such an explosive difference in power level whereas I look at old footage and it seems like JR being tied to a resource was a formality because getting meter was so easy. Also doesn’t seem like JR itself got hit that hard so your win con is still there it just takes effort to get into.
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balls
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>>563850598
Granblue Ky-lonized
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>>563850895
i stopped liking the rabbit when i learned its not just a rabbit
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>arcsys is officially letting this patch rock at Evo JP
I wonder how sweaty Leffen and YMST are gonna be with steady aim
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>>563850598
Were both... arcsisters?
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>>563851162
I thought leffen already dropped the game
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>>563851147
What is it?
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>>563823381
Damn, his pressure really is fucking busted.
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>>563851385
cmere bestie
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>>563849623
If the ABA is letting themselves pop that’s their fault though. You can see the meter. If you fail to open them up in the first five seconds of your Swiss army can opener mode, back off and switch modes.
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>>563851520
it is a normal human man who was transformed into a rabbit after eating jam's cooking for literally no reason
he thinks if he eats more of her food he'll turn back
jam thinks the guy dined and dashed and left his rabbit and is trying to find the guy
this is her entire story in strive
anybody who actually cares about gg lore is a secondary
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>>563851805
What the fuck...
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>>563851657
Get away from me!
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>>563851613
Why is Sol Badguy giving himself an atomic wedgie?
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>>563851872
the glasses she is wearing belongs to him too
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>>563852045
what the FUCK

>>563823381
>showers with the headband on
based lore knower
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Man I really want to go to evo japan, but I don't want people thinking I'm evil
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>>563851805
I thought she was an excellent cook, why would this random shit happen
is this some sort of chink batsoup covid dig?
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>>563851923
come ooonnnnnn~
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how does one escape ephelt's cbt mix-up spam or whatever the fuck it is?
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>>563852379
I imagine it’s supposed to be some her cooking is so amazing it has magical properties bullshit
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>>563852651
If elphelt is on top of you, it's already too late.
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>>563852881
nyo... its MY seed! give it back..!
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>>563852430
NOONONOONONO
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>>563852045
>>563851805
Fun story, small details, soulful
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>>563852651
play a character with a high-hitting low crush
play a character with a massive 2P/5P
play a character with a DP
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>>563853098
Does Johnny have any of those? he looks cool.
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>>563852959
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I don't remember but was there ever a mission mode for each character in GGST? The one where you're supposed to do specific moves and combos to teach you a little bit of the character you're using?
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>>563853227
2K, 2H, Ensenga might all be too slow to interrupt
which is exactly why they should be working on IB and AD next
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>563853735
now this is a new level of nonplayer post
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>>563850598
Well both games have Sol Badguy
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My closest locals only play retro games, but they have both reload and accent core days. Which game should I learn?
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>>563854526
Accent Core or +R? This actually matters
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>>563854620
just ac
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>>563854462
BEA
IS NOTHING
LIKE
SOL
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>563854526
If you learn #reload, you only have to learn the meme system changes in every other X2 game, and look at some character pages on dustloop.
Also proficiency in #reload translates to being better at literally every fucking guilty gear, and boomers will never stop playing it, unironically.
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>>563854696
I was talking about zoi
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>>563854696
>similar animations across the board
>thunderbird and riding free is infamously better versions of bandit bringer and night raid vortex
>delta clock is literally a roman cancel
I hate Bea too, but she was very clearly based off Sol. That being said, it's funny how >>563854831 inherited the dust loop
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>>563854824
That Slayer color is fucking horrible...
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>>563855858
THUNDERBIRD
IS NOT
A DIVEKICK

>>563855912
hes the joka baby
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riding free is actually based on ground viper not night raid vortex because riding free is actually a semi-usable low profile instead of exclusively a combo extender
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Join the tournament
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GURANDO VAIPA *XX explosion sound intensifies*
VORUTEKS
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BORRTECKS
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>>563856442
What's in it for me?
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Aria riding Frederick's White Monster
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>>563856035
Why, because it's not an overhead? Plenty of divekicks hit mid. What's important in this context is that it looks similar and is plus on block regardless of height and spacing.

Also that other anon is right. What an ugly color for a lame reference
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>>563856892
FUN
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>>563857105
OK, I can't say no to Migu...
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I miss this dumb overdrive like you wouldn't believe, but not because it's ever been that good, or useful, but because she looks so cute when she does it in all the old games.
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>>563849623
>"You are actually punished if you let your meter run out through mismanagement"
>"you don't have the meter to try and escape"

You do realize you are one of the only characters left in the game that gets an extended turn THIS long and with THIS much damage? Sure you guys can lose the JR punish change BUT when you do don't cry when they gut your damage to bring you in line with everyone else now that you have no risk that is in line with your reward.
It just proves my point entirely that you are trying to play previous strive with her still.
rounds don't end in 2 interactions, fucking back off when you are getting low on JR or accept that if you go for one more mix you will explode, ACTUAL DECISION MAKING WOW
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>>563856996
Bandit Bringer is never plus on block?
Bandit Bringer is also a punch, not a kick?
So they're LITERALLY nothing alike in appearance OR usage??????
Retard??????????????????????
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The Unika/Axl matchup is somehow even more miserable now...
This feels like I'm collateral damage on what they did to fix Axl's others matchups.
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I don't know what's worse, the fact that they actually had the balls to call this shit Sidewinder or the fact that they called it Sidewinder Ignited like its a fucking upgraded version
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>>563857461
>Bandit Bringer is never plus on block?
Stop posting
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>Tiger Pop thinks Jam has too many things going for her.
What does that mean? Almost all her moves are minus on block.
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>>563858371
there is no way the dragon kick is minus on block
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>>563858371
>Almost all her moves are minus on block
Wait till you play a character who is mostly minus on hit
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>>563858317
This is /ggg/ - Guilty Gear -STRIVE- General unc
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>>563857784
>Can't loop by doing 2K, 6S or 5K, 6S or even a simple c.S because it's space dependant and how high
Am I skill issuing or I forgor something?
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>>563858460
The WAAAAAAATCHAAAAAAAAA? It is super minus, my guy.
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>>563858695
there is no way i refuse to believe you bitch
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>>563858460
Dragon Kick is -35
Gekirin is -1
Ryuutsui is -4
Puffball is -8
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>>563858789
one day i tried to press button after ham did it on me and i got conter
i was literally c.s
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>>563858509
Let's be real here. No one played this game prior to the netcode update
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>>563858789
what about with orbs
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>>563858509
Why don't you STRIVE to figure out your gender, sis?!
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>>563858979
I played it on the PSP along with Judgment.
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>>563859023
What orbs? You mean the powerup versions of the specials?
Enhanced Dragon Kick is -35
Enhanced Gekirin is -1
Enhanced Ryuutsui is +6

If we are going to include the Demon Flip versions
Demon Flip Dragon kick is -53
Demon Flip Gekirin is +7
Demon Flip Ryuutsui is -4
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>>563858979
I didn't play a fighting game other than killer instinct until like 2023 with type lumina for a bit
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How can people use Twitch without this?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/twitch_5/
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How do you guys Ariels is going to be as a character considering she's next after Robo-Ky.
I think they'll make her the Nu-13 of the game.
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Leo is still the biggest retard enabling character in the game
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>>563860047
Leo takes more skill than Gio and May
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>>563860280
And potemkin
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>>563859976
If it means bringing back Junko "Joker" Minagawa then I'll take it.
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>>563858979
AC was played by everyone, since it was on even the wii, and had online, cost almost nothing, and released in every region, unlike slash.
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>>563860320
Potemkin takes an ever so slightly more amount of brain power than Gio and May
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>>563860446
Anyone who pulled up with a wii port of a fighting game was immediately laughed out of the room
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>>563860047
arguably on par with Unika
and possible Elp
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>>563860659
>Me with a TvC disc
Haha...
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Where is this "Giovanna takes no skill" crap coming from?
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shizukani
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I want to be Paracelsus while Aba rides me on jealously horny.
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>>563860821
I fucking love that game so much.

>>563860659
It was either mash in #reload on PS2, or mash in AC+ on wii.
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>>563857335
As an ABA player I’ve been annoyingly amused at all the ABAs calling everything useless now because it has a different purpose. Everyone keeps saying Parry is dead because they can’t throw it out in the middle of blocking for free to fuck up enemy timing and steal a turn when the main purpose was supposed to be an anti-zoning tool that got you JR.
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>>563860890
>mashes c.S ad naus
>retard proof safe jumps after every conversion
>multiple neutral skips
Your nigger whore is braindead
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i want to be raped by an mentally ill woman and be her sex slave
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just bought jam pass now what
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I want to eat Elphelt's ass
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I want Elphelt to eat my ass.
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>>563861539
>>563861582
Do you enjoy women who smell like feces?
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>>563860659
>picrel literally one of the coolest fighters
Who's laughing now
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>>563861639
You don't?
Weirdo.
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if a woman doesn't have bare feet, can you even call that a woman?
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>>563861689
Me, now put that shit away. We're playing SoulCalibur today.
>"B-But I don't like the new one. The movement is too stif-"
Too fuckin bad. We spent all day yesterday filling up all the character creator slots.
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yoooouuuu zaaaaaannnn seeeeeennnn
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>>563862325
Dizzy and Faust should be in A
Elph and Unga should be in S
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>>563862325
Seriously how the fuck have Leo and Ram consistently got away with their bullshit for 5 years now
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>>563862293
i was once with a whore who smelled like feces during sex and i regret it to this day
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>>563862738
Easy mash gorilla characters that are relevant because of a powerful toolbox, and big, dumb damage, respectively.
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Today I made it to ever so slightly less shit bros.
All I see are sins and baikens
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Perfect beings don't poop...
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>>563863019
Congrats!
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Why was Leo even put into this game? No one liked him in Xrd, consistently bottomed out popularity and usage polls and he's not some essential function.
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>>563863019
I'm gold 3 and it's all jams and slayers send help
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>>563863019
I'm new and really suck at fighting games like this so I'm in Silver and all I see are Venom's and Bedman doing the same moves over and over again trying to zone me out.
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>>563863228
The silver lining is that at that kinda rank everyone just brainlessly autopilot the same sequence, so once you find how to get around it you just roll over them.
Don't be afraid to ask for help against characters you don't really understand what to do against, /ggg/ is in its healing phase so people are generally helpful.
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>>563863185
I played against a single slayer so far and he vaporized my healthbar from full to like 30%.
I know it's kind of the character's gimmick, but something about felt unfair.
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>>563863049
The sheer amount of lust I feel toward her cannot be described
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>>563863813
Doppel art sex (miss when Doppel drew a lot sadge, wonder if it was because didn't want his art getting yoinked for training anymore since it was right around then)
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>>563863813
>Don't worry it's the penisless version
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I wish I could use the Elphelt leotard mod but then it fucks with her j.D and that in turn trigger the everloving fuck out of my tism
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>>563863131
Xrd needed a male representative, and he was the least bad of the bunch, so they went with him and hoped they could redeem him.
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Did they say when they are releasing any alternate costumes?
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>>563864641
The same day they release the battlepass.
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>unika does a half screen sweeping slide low into me
>block
>can’t punish
What the fuck are you supposed to do against this character
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>battle pass slop
Please no. I'm sick of this crap. Just release the individual skin in the store
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>>563864940
Wait for her to mash herself into a shitty position, or learn how to IB so you can work around her buttons.
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>>563860446
I got into GG with this game and it made me realize that the gamecube controller is, in fact, the shittiest pad ever devised.
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>>563865005
Granblue does that, eventually the costumes become available in steam, let's just hope they do the same here.
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>>563865005
It's kinda obvious is it? Why would they release a battlepass system without implementing an in game store to induce FOMO?
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Imagine buying battle passes this late into the game's lifespan. Guilty Gear 5 is releasing in two years
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>>563865152
They should really copy the Rupies from Grub
I know they won't, they are too sure of the game's success to ever allow you to buy shit (even characters) with in-game currency, but it would be nice...
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>>563862325
Swap Chipp and Goldlewis. Then swap Potemkin and Goldlewis.
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>>563865343
I don't even see the point considering we have mods. I don't give a rat's ass if my opponent can't see my Baiken with her tits out.
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>>563865083
It's adequate for CvS2, but I'd rather play on a dance mat than do guilty gear combos on the gamecube controller ever again.

>>563865343
Guilty gear 5 isn't releasing until they've thoroughly milked strive.
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>>563865152
Nice more DLCs to be creamapi'd.
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>>563865387
It really is a nice system, provided you have the will to grind, you can get anything that can be bought with real money, even DLC characters, I bought a couple that way.
Granted it's an absurd amount of grinding, but if you play the game a lot it's not that much of a problem.
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>>563865343
*2 decades
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>>563865569
They did give us what amounts to a free character in terms of free Rupies last Christmas, that was nice.
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At this point I want another story expansion
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>>563865786
Bro, your short stories?
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>>563865786
bro your senator Nerville Hammer?
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Anyone remember how worried they were about strive's chances of being a success five years ago?
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>>563865846
I think he wants season 2
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>>563864940
it's Ken Miyauchi OC
you're not supposed to win
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>>563865912
I’m American so I never really cared about sales
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>>563866125
Yeah, that's why you only got half the games released into your region.
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>>563865963
>Another story type expansion
Oh that. I hope so.
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>>563866180
I just mean culturally. Like in India yall care more about sales than quality but in America we prefer quality more.
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>>563865786
I don't, the main game story was ass, and so was the anime, Daisuke is very good at world building, but writing stories, he sucks donkey dicks at.
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Why do my wakeup ODs just not come out sometimes
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>>563866459
Cause you fucked it up. It happens.
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>>563865912
what I remember is that the air action/movement changes made everyone fucking despondent in the final beta
they all then proceeded to still cocksuck the game upon release, proving that the entire FGC is pure grift
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>>563866687
It was so fucking good right on release, even with all the jank and Z-tier characters. Killed every other game, and all discussion of other games, for fucking months.
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>>563866687
Movement in fighting games is transphobic
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Leo just doesn't have a single weakness
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playing leo is ultimate bitch card in a fighting game
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>get hit by every yozansen
Im never getting out of Bronze
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>>563867107
He is weak to caramel
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>>563867286
What win rate do you need to climb out of the lower ranks?
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>>563867286
Everyone get hit by those mate, I vividly remember the times where wakeup TK yozansen was not only perfectly viable, but a very good wakeup option for Baiken.
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>>563867291
And Leo's White Monster.
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>>563865343
>2 more we-years!
>two years
For sure
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I have made the mistake of watching Leffen.
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>>563867861
>Watching the only "normal" Strive player
Nah you're good.
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People cried about random and braindead air dashing getting them killed, when random and braindead air dashing gets you killed in every other guilty gear game.
People cried that air dashes were slow, then proceeded to take months to figure out how to string together air combos longer than 3 hits.
People seethed so hard that they made everything gatling in the air, made dust combos super lenient, and even after all of that only Sol players and Ramtards had the gitguds to perform air combos.
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>>563867861
Did you get command grabbed into it?
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>>563868014
If fucking Leffen of all people is the standard for what constitute as "normal" for a Strive player hten I fucking dread at the implications regarding the community.
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>>563863401
I am using Jam. I need help versus Venom with him just throwing or making balls. Unika with her just mashing combos into Dipper or Overhead.
I was surprised by a Ky player who I realized was just doing one combo, which is fine. I see the player actually thinking. But then I see the player do jab into super multiple times from actually nothing happening. I basically just got hit with jab and it's not even counterhit. Is there a stylish mode in this game?
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Only truly ancient posters will remember this one.
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Max tried GGST 2.0 and then dipped out when he realized that he knew he wouldn't be able to really climb up anyway because almost every character can still combo anyway so he's so far behind.
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>>563867861
Leffen is like a white LowTierGod that is actually good at fighting games at the cost of not being funny
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>>563868657
Why tf he play Elphelt in the first place?
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>>563843527
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>Max tried and dipped
Yeah water is wet. Beyond me why anyone ever give a fuck about him, in my mind he's at the same rank as that WoW player that look like a hobo, the faggot that gave Fatashi a sponsorship.
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Don’t understand how Unika is allowed to start high/low/throw mixups off of one of the longest normals in the game and oh the low is safe on block
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>>563868657
>behind
But there's so many noobs now. This might actually be the single best time to get into Strive since you can just blindly queue up ranked and get matched up with equally bad players.
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>>563868445
You want to force Venom at close range, at all time, especially if you play Jam, abuse your high/low low rank players have zero clues how to deal with it.
Throw a puffball every now and then if he try to keep away.
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>>563868792
What playing Litchi for years does to a mf.
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>>563868792
He is literally me...
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>>563868897
Yeah but let's be honest. He knows how to play fighting games. If he tried he's easily at least platinum. At most Diamond. He's going to get fucked so hard at both ranks and then he'll cry again.
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Aight bro let's test it out
>Your ethnicity
>Your main
>Your main kink
Caucasian
Elphelt
Anal
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>>563868814
her entire gimmick is also dash cancels off the most disjointed specials in the game
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>>563869163
It's more of the fact that he's never been into anime fighters. He wouldn't even play FighterZ online despite it being a tag fighter.

Mark my words. Max will put more hours into Invincible VS than every other anime fighter he's ever played combined.
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>caucasian
only jews use that word
If you are white you say you are white or aryan
i bet you dont have foreskin either
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>>563868770
probably saw that Elp wins as soon as she's able to do that rolling dogshit of infinite high/low
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>>563869497
I like brown girls and feet but Ram does nothing for me because she looks and is stupid
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>>563869497
Caucasian.
Ky.
Breeding.
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>>563867861
How the hell is he only 1540
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>>563869946
I just went to school bro...
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>>563869497
White
Asuka
ummmm cute girls
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>>563870035
they nerfed it long ago it not be infinite and nerfed it in 2.0 to not give her oki to set it up again

>>563869497
caucasian
elphelt
femdom
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>>563870168
Hate to be fair to pizzaface but having to go from a character that completely played itself to a character that only need to half play itself must be a massive shock to his brain, giving him a hard time.
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>>563870168
adderall pill shortage
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>>563870603
>Femdom Elphelt
I can get behind the idea, imagine her pinning you down and repeatedly slamming her fat fucking ass on your face.
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>>563869497
Latino
Jam
Extremely sloppy and passionate tongue kissing
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ROOMS UP, DING DONGS

ID: 261145
Ft3
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>>563869497
White
Sol
Yuri
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what's the deal with up dolphin this patch? when does May's turn even end if you don't have a DP?
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>>563869497
White
Asuka
Josou Seme
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>>563869497
White
Jam
ZR/feet
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>>563869497
black
unika
bbw
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>>563869497
Agarthan
Potemkin
Frozen grapes in the summer
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>>563869497
European caucasian.
Johnny.
Stockings and muscles.
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>>563871495
IB dolphin -> Throw
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>>563869497
white
faust
bbw/weight gain
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>>563869497
White
Bedman
Armpits and futa
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>>563869497
Nubian
Slayer
Fat asses
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>>563869497
huwhyte
dizzy
scents
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Show me the appeal of feet
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>>563869497
White
Sol
Pubes
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>>563872075
What, like, jump throw? Won't that still lose to her j.P or j.K?
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>>563872882
It's impossible to understand. Your brain is either wired to find them hot, or it's not.
Same with girl brains sometimes being wired to find hands really hot.
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>>563872882
I won't, if drawing porn for thirsty neckbeards on the internet for years taught me anything: just don't try to understand fetishes.
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>>563869497
asian american
bedman?
free use
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>>563873206
oh didnt read up dolphin, up Dolphin am fairly certain is reactable to 5p her out of it during startup, and she can't point blank it after doing it once. If she up dolphins again 6p solidly wins or jump air to air or something like that
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>>563869497
White
Chipp
Mind control
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Only click this if you've got your 6P ready!
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How do you respond?
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>>563874665
I predicted it and zansei rouga’d it
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Sorry I'm retarded: what is the point of counter blitz?
I just don't see why I would spend half my burst off a single hit
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>>563869497
Hallstatt, I think
Chipp
Small nipples
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>>563874665
I'll go for a clash attempt.
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>>563873645
i need a bat wife
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>>563874836
sometimes lets you wallbreak off hits that normally wouldn't when you have no meter to RC but it's really weak overall
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>>563869497
hispanic
jam / millia
tanlines
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>>563874836
It locks the opponent out of bursting. That's the only application I see for it.
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>>563874665
I respect horizontal mist finer
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>>563874836
The opponent could be assfucked for big damage and a wallbreak, but only if you used 50% of your burst meter to deny her or him using 100% of her or his burst meter.
You need an unburstable hard knockdown for some reason.
You're a beginner or newbie and got a big COUNTER with button>button, and you want to cash out some resources so you can pause for breath.
You're running competent c.S pressure on someone, scored a great COUNTER right next to the wall, and you decide you'll take the positive bonus and all the other advantages at the cost of 50% burst.
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Also unlike wallbreaking with an overdrive, you won't suffer reduced tension gain at the start of your positive bonus period.

>>563875318
Overall, I agree with this post.
>>
but really
when is the next update?
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>>563875983
Fuck, I was gonna quote this >>563875021 post, but whatever.
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>LE BACK TO THE BASIC UPDATE
>they made unreactable 50/50 faster and stronger
I know it's my fault for playing a character with no meterless reversal but I don't see that much of a difference boss.
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>>563876675
Get hit by a pre update 2k -> Rc combo and maybe the 80% hp loss from a fucking 6 frame move will help jostle your brain around on it?
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I think out of all the nonsense strive webms I've collected over the years, this one is still my favorite.
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>>563876675
Overhead combos do 15 less damage thoughever
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>LE BACK TO THE BASIC UPDATE
>they made everyone weaker so Burst regenerates more adding 2+ more times you'll have to win neutral vs zoners/halfscreeners
this shit's only acceptable if they're planning to remove the wall
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>>563877715
>Back to basics
>Increases neutral interactions
I don't see the problem?
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wew the goalposts
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>>563869497
Mexican
Elphelt
Facesitting
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>you get 1(one) more guess at an unreactable
Yeah. As I said, not much of a difference.
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how is potemkin supposed to be different again.
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>>563878517
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>>563877321
I thought throw loops were a Dix problem...
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>>563878517
If you don't main a character with a projectile, you need to learn the MU
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>>563877321
>Second round

I like to imagine the Ky only grabbed round 1, too.
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>>563878662
Wherever Ky goes, there are throw loops.
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>>563878370
Based
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This is honestly the best way to beat her in every guilty gear game. One or two are enough to inflict ego death on them.
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>>563879659
>>563878975
kek
I should learn Ky
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>>563879659
>go for the airthrow on Millia
>time it literally perfectly, would be a textbook snatch
>get j.D
>COUNTER
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>>563879816
Learning Ky makes you better at the game overall, so it's always a good idea to play around with him.
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>>563879659
believe it or not it still fucking works since launch
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>>563869497
Caucasian
Sol
Nakadashi
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>>563838197
normal modo... berry berry risky..
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From shortly after they added dash cancels to 5K and c.S for everyone. I'm convinced there's some degenerate shit you can do with counter blitz, too.
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>>563867861
He's not wrong that Strive players are the scrubbiest who wouldn't make it in other games
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Wait, Lucy's cross up is safe on block? I really can't tell if I was too much of a slow retard or if it's just like that
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>>563880418
Shut the FUCK up Leffen, I see people saying this shit in literally all the fighting game generals I frequent.
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>FD Chipp's ultmate spider
>still die to chip damage somehow
...Eh? Does FD not protect from super damage and I had completely forgotten know? Does jumping when already in the air force you to block normally instead of FDing for a few frames...? I'm just confused.
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>>563879659
True.
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>>563880496
>Wait, Lucy's cross up is safe on block?
You can OS 6P with FD on it, or if you're Sol you 2D on reaction to low profile it and make it whiff for a guaranteed throw (or c.S punish if you're early enough).

>>563880551
Check your replay.
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>>563880897
I mean, I'm just surprised, maybe I'm getting old but that shit is stupidly fast to be safe on block.
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>>563880628
God I love air throws.
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>>563881086
>maybe I'm getting old but that shit is stupidly fast to be safe on block.
It's the situation; she has to use the dash attack first and unless she's point blank that also means covering some ground to get it to cross-up. That gives you time to prepare for the possibility she'll do it.
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This one's cool.
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>Didn't like Cyberpunk but some of those palette are fucking amazing
Yeah I know, this is a palette, not the game or anime, but I can't help associate the two you know
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>>563881987
I like the May and Ky ones a lot, and use May's whenever I play her. I don't know shit about either the game or the anime, and have no interest in them.
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That one Cyberpunk song makes me sad whenever I get it in one of my matches...
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>first game with dizzy, I'll go to the park I don't wanna fuck up placements
>level 4000 blue aura baiken, yea sure fuck me up
>I win the ft10 10-7
bro come the fuck on
how many times are you going to IAD at me
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Is there a way for me to get a player number I could share with you guys so you can see my replays? I'd like to ask for pointers on what I should improve and focus on right now.
I'm just a gold 1 shitter, I played the game but it pretty much mean fuckall with how long I haven't touched the game, only returned since 2.0
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>>563883843
There are player numbers and you can search others by name, but I don't think you can search by their numbers. The numbers are really long anyway. You're probably better off just uploading a video of you playing to streamable if you want feedback.
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>>563884376
Ah piss, I never used anything to record gameplay so I don't have anything for it, and I think a one or two match wouldn't be enough, I may be asking for much but I would've liked for some good players to just comb through a bunch of my replays so they get a good firm grasp of how shit I am.
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>>563884575
Just post your name, nobody's doxxing you.
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>>563884575
Press Windows + G and click the camera, you don't need any advanced software for a thing like this.
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>>563883843
Do NOT listen to >>563884781
4chan is full of schizos and one of them WILL dox you if given the chance.
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>>563884575
have someone add you in game so they can view your replays I guess (someone who wants to do coaching?)
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The brawl is underway
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>>563884781
>>563884798
>>563885656
Sorry, was trying to figure out how to deal with that anon advice with the windows + g, turns out I had the xbox stuff disabled.
I managed to record one game as a test, but I noticed two things:
The sound is mega low, I don't know why, and my mouse cursor is in the way, I suppose some settings are fucked.
I don't mind my name being visible, not only is it a shitpost, I played in lobbies as well, and I'm not dumb enough to use the same infos everywhere I go anyway, I do wish I could hide my opponent's name though.
But anyway, this is a Gold 1 match, I'm the Elphelt, let me know what you guys think and if you'd like me to record a couple other replays to get a better idea of my fuck ups.
https://streamable.com/f13elc
Thanks!
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dizzy is so fucking fun bros
learned babies first fish setups and I'm having a wonderful time
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>>563886665
I don't play Elphelt but a very easy improvement would to just use your meter more. You could have Romance Cancelled at 1:52 and taken the round, seeing as you'd see him bursting during the RC slowdown so you could block it, and then at 2:30 you could have Roman Cancelled and broken the wall too. You end every round with meter to spare, you may as well use it while you have the chance, even just doing 214K RC to close the gap would be a good option.
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>>563887523
That's pretty damn fair, I don't have an excuse for why I don't really use my meter, I only save it for reversal super or breaking the wall with one, lately I've been trying to focus on breaking the wall with her 236236K super.
Roman cancel, for some reasons, doesn't really exist in my mind, I don't know why man.
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>Jam reversal super hits you from 3/4 screen away
That range has gotta go. Why the fuck does the short-range stubby rushdown have the longest-range reversal in the entire game?
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>>563887875
because she has short range stubby buttons retard her parry is frame 5
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>>563887875
She needs it, they took away her DP.
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Johnny's TK SMF is hard
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>>563886665
You don't even attempt to play neutral. You just keep running in or trying to jump in trying to get a cl.s to connect. Sometimes you throw out incredibly risky 6hs for no particular reason.
You also do the same exact thing on offense every time which isn't necessarily horrible in this case because that Johnny has no idea how to deal with grenade, but it's something to keep in mind against people who know what they're doing.
You also have no idea how Johnny works since you sit like a deer in headlights when he throws out unsafe/minus moves.
Finally like the other anon said you sit on your meter and overcap the fuck out of it.
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Characters like bridget make no sense to me. Like ok, you hit the mix. What are you gonna do now, hit the mix again? I'm still above 50%, you've accomplished nothing
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>>563888308
you don't need to TK it if you buffer it from cl.s or something
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>>563886665
you leave a ton of damage on the table on some easy conversions, at 1:25 for example off of that ch 2h you had a very easy wallbreak, at minimum the 214h bnb is cs 2s 2h s14s>s>h and would have been sufficient
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>>563888447
And that's why I was asking on advice on what I should focus on.
Also those 6H were me messing up 236H, it's happens a lot more than I'd like to admit.
That said I'd like for you to explain me more about neutral, I have a hard time grasping what you mean by that, what exactly should I be doing if not trying to attack?

>>563889150
Thanks, I'll try to work on those in training mode.
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raping a slayer and then they insta decline rematch
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>>563889092
Now I feel retarded.
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>love 2.0
>hate the matchmaking being fucked
>to get my Guilty Gear fix I've booted up Xrd again
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elphelt is such a braindead nigger fuck off
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Elphelt is NOT a nigger, it's just a tan!
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I keep accidentally kara canceling super instead of getting puffball. How can I fix this?
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I have played rushdown characters for the last 6 years and am now realizing I'm a zoner main
this is a lot to take in right now
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>>563890650
It's fucked? It's been working perfectly fine for me.
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>>563892015
It takes 2-4 minutes to get a match
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I'm so much better than everyone I play against without any irony they just clip me with a weird hitbox but I'd have them leashed in my yard because they're all dogs
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>>563891973
congratulations on your transition
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>>563889561
What, like the entire concept of neutral?
The goal is to put yourself in an advantageous position while minimizing risk, the most basic way of doing this is to land a poke into a knockdown. Use your normals to control the screen and limit the opponent's options.

A random example: at 0:59 you block mist finer and instead of pressing something he's forced to respect you jump in and eat shit. Don't ask me what you should've pressed, I don't play Elph.
Again, holding forward can and does work sometimes but only if you make the conscious read that the opponent is afraid of your buttons and will stand still. Otherwise you're giving them room and space to do whatever they want and stuff your approach.
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>>563864940
You're ideally not not supposed to block it if it's used in neutral. To do the safe dipper she has to do the 21 frame charge move and then gun dupper further adds 16 frames more.
If you don't feel confident in being able to stuff it you should jump on reaction to her charging up. If she does laser you can airdash and punish, if she does dipper you can press a jump button and punish. If she sees you jump there's a chance she might try to go for DP or the overhead to anti-air you but so long as you don't air dash early, she'll whiff and be stuck with 10 million frames of recovery.

Also depending on the spacing, you can IAD FD on reaction to her charge up to cover all her options and leaving her massively minus if she presses anything.
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>>563889561
>>563892847
elphelts basic fs > 5h > 5h > 214k is wonderful
very amazing neutral option that you don't even really need to confirm anything on
if you want to confirm that your opponent blocked you can go into charged 236h anytime, her fireball pulls you in and is very plus on block now
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>>563892847
Anon it's a gold rank match, wiht a Johnny that's jumping all over the place, throwing his massive normals around like candies, anyone would've trouble navigating that at that level of experience.
It's like you're watching this replay under the eye of somehow analyzing a match displayed on the GGST Replay channel.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying keep it simple for simple level.
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>>563893275
"use your normals instead of holding upforward" isn't high level advice lmao.
It's better they learn now before they hit the point where they eat shit every round and have no idea why.
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>>563892847
I'm asking you your concept of neutral because everytime I see "neutral" being discussed, everyone always have a widely different definition of what it is.
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Why aren't they selling system voices? Granblue has them still.i want to hear a nonchalant Gio call my matches dammit.
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>>563893536
Neutral is just the game state where neither player has a major advantage.
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>>563893489
Allow me to try again:
>Inexperienced is under pressure against a character he likely isn't familiar with
>Instead of doing the optimal punish, try to escape to stay in the match
I don't know man, I'll fully agree with you that there was a better options, I'm just saying that doing dumbshit like that at this level feels perfectly natural to me.
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>>563894103
Yeah of course it's natural but that guy posted a replay asking for feedback, what am I supposed to say? Good job you played perfectly?
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>>563894312
Something I can think of is that instead of ranting about neutral and jumping, simply saying "You missed an opportunity where Johnny left himself vulnerable", I mean it's in your own post: "you also have no idea how Johnny works since you sit like a deer in the headlight when he throws out unsafe/minus moves."
I mean come on man you really think gold players have a damn clue what "neutral" even is?
Again, I'm not saying you're not wrong, or that your advice is bad, just not suitable for somehow who's still figuring out how to move around with their own characters.
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>>563894729
I disagree but if they think my advice is too esoteric they can ignore it.
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>>563895087
Yeah that's fine too, I just wanted to give my two cents on it.
I don't play Elphelt so I can't help here, but when it come to beginners, I just think it's better to try to teach them the basics of basics, things like
>Try to set yourself in an advantageous position
>Work on your movements, when to move, when to dash, when to jump, when to IAD
>Focus on a single, simple, reliable BnB
Shit like MU details and all that can wait, that's all I'm saying bro, beginners are already struggling enough just trying to play the game because of how chaotic fighting games are, so if you're going to try and help them I believe it's better to help them figure out how to solidify their basics than the fine tuning.
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>>563880897
Going through the replay, I see:
>myself in the air blocking with FD, some ~20% meter left
>the first hit of Chipp's super visibly connects with the big green shield
>the match immediately ends, and the display says it was a chip damage kill
I just don't get it man. I even double checked the patch nothes, the data on FD, and if Chipp's supers had a special property or something, but no, according to everything I should not have taken chip damage.
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It's fine, I just wanted for advices, and I got some. I'll admit that there's some stuff that went over my head, and that I'll probably forget by tomorrow, but matter of the fact is that I did get help.
That whole shit aside, can you guys tell me why Elphelt have such a bad rep?
Lots of people seem to hate her.
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https://www.twitch.tv/baccpack
Tournament.
I know a lot of you don't like baccpack but I figured some may want to watch some shit while the patch is still fresh.
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>>563895969
why don't people like him?
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Bridget art is kinda annoying as shit. Half the time it feels like people draw Bridget solely because they want a guilty gear girl to choke on cock, but they don't wanna draw a guy with a cock, either through incompetence or a strange aversion to the male figure. That's how you know Bridget is trans, no one sees that bitch as a man
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>>563893775
Same reason why 2.0 didn't receive a graphical update like Granblue. It's low effort slop hastily slapped together because D&B hard flopped and Tokon is internally projected to soft flop.
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>>563896047
No clues, I never dug up into it, best I can give you is that back in the day when Baccpack was running his tournament anons would often go bitch about him.
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>>563896091
They keep trying to turn Bridget into Astolfo 2.0 and that doesnt work because Bridget is a woman with no personality and Astolfo is a cock with no personality
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>>563896091
I fucking hate how they're so damn unhinged they go as far as going on porn site to change tags, and sometime try to circumvent them by tagging bridget porn as "futa" or some other nonsense.
Nowaday I just took the habit to just add -bridget_(guilty_gear) in my search because I'm fucking sick of it.
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>>563896047
He used to spam his videos and streams here back in the day
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>>563893191
>elphelts basic fs > 5h > 5h > 214k is wonderful
That is something I'm fully willing to admit on fucking up, I rarely use Elphelt's 5H, it feels weird to me and I still don't know what I can get out of it.
I guess what I'm trying to say, is that to me it feels like her 5H is some sort of finisher, so I don't use it too often.
It's retarded I know but I'm still trying to figure out what I can get out of the stuff Elphelt do.
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>>563896321
>>563896649
huh. I think his commentary with that euro guy are pretty entertaining at least
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>>563896810
He's not unpleasant to listen to, that much I can agree with.
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is this how you throw loop
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>>563896938
gyatt
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>>563895623
She has tons of degenerate and braindead stuff, a lot of it has been toned down, and most wouldn't be too egregious on its own, but put it all together and you get a character designed to make people feel like they're getting mugged.
The main thing people complain about by FAR is her rekka, but overall she has:
>long reaching pokes with some good disjoint
>several normals with 6+ active frames
>an advancing 2H that goes quite far and can even go under some stuff
>a 6P capable of bringing down the Sun
>a really fast lunging special
>the most degenerate crossup special in the game, which sets up completely safe oki mixups and can even crush mids
>a rekka that can do TWO high-low 50/50s, which knocks down on hit so she can do it all over agian, and that also has safe on block enders (AND IT USED TO BE ENDLESSLY LOOPABLE INTO ITSELF, which is where a good part of the seething hatred comes from)
>a wallbreak super that gives her HKD wallbreak and puts bombs on the opponent, not letting them play the game and giving her a combo off of any hit (MUCH much more manageable after its nerfs though, and even more so with the 2.0 nerfs to meter gain nerfs)
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Games?

ID: 426086
Ft3
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>>563897732
They made Potenkins Slidehead animation more reactable and clearer and then they made a character who's entire viability stems off the fact her low and high rekka look the exact same
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>>563896047
He said trans rights are human rights
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>>563896453
that's not true, they both have strong personalities, close to the same personality even, just that one is a fr*nch sociopath and the other a br*tish sociopath
though you'll never see either thing reflected in fan art.
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>>563897756
I'll come after the tournament if yuropoor are welcome.

>>563897732
I can't deny I love and abuse the fuck out of her 2H, this shit is crack
I can see how playing against her is frustrating, but I just love the character and have lots of fun playing her man.
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>>563897756
eating then sure
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>>563897978
I'll play devil advocate and say that was during a time where Goblino had a firmly locked up cock cage on the community's collective shlong.
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can they just remove pochumpkin from the game
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>>563843341
aboriginals
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>>563898048
>>563897754
Impossible as baiken
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>>563898075

Of course man, everyone is welcome. I'll update the room in case it times out or something
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>>563897930
It's just so fucking weird and at odds with every other design choice in the game.
All the other rekkas make you choose between high and low (or not even that) with options that have very distinct animations and different frame data, where to beat fuzzies you'd have to do risky delays or other shit. Just in general, unfuzziable 50/50s are a rarity outside of guard crush strike/throw and ususally require complicated setups and RCs.

But then fucking Elphelt gets a rekka with TWO CONSECUTIVE unfuzziable high/lows where both options extremely similar.
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You ever thought how fucking massive Johnnt's belt is?
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>>563897930
Is this Elphelt or Jam we cant tell anymore
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>>563897930
>>563899109
TEHE
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>>563859229
Unfortunately all the gamewarring people left.
There was a hysterical post made in this general. It was a post about Strivers identifying as girls in reply to a webm of a JAV where a girl spits on an old guy
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my reversal super is just not coming out
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>>563899109
Just.. use your DP?
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>>563899109
it’s THEORETICALLY fuzziable since the overhead hits 2f late on crouching but good luck with that
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>>563899109
its has low reward tho
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>>563899686
except you RC and get a wallbreak into positive bonus into more guessing
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>>563895557
I can't see your replay obviously, but I tried testing it out for myself and I believe I know what happened. I don't know if it's obvious from the quality of the webm because the health bar only moves a little, but when I do Zansei Rouga the CPU FDs it perfectly, not taking any chip damage, but when the CPU does it to me, I take a little.

In older GG games sometimes moves would cross up if you FD'd but they wouldn't if you did, like Order Sol's Gunblaze. FD kind of holds you in spot and makes it so you don't auto-correct what direction your facing, I believe that's the reason for it. I don't know exactly how it works in Strive, but I imagine what's happening is that while the game doesn't make you block the direction Chipp is coming from for each hit, it won't auto-correct your FD either. To correctly FD the whole thing, like the CPU does here, you would need to switch the direction your blocking for each strike Chipp does so that you're correctly holding away from him each time. If not, you won't FD the hits that are coming from the direction that your holding back towards, making you take a little chip damage. Again, I'm not exactly sure how it works in Strive, but I would infer that this is the explanation.
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>>563899636
SHE CAN EVEN FUCKING BAIT DP GOD DAMMIT
And I mean sure that does add at least some interactivity, WHAT A SHAME THAT LESS THAN HALF THE CAST EVEN HAS A DP
also this is no longer relevant but does anyone know if previous patch pot could buster through it or does the second hit come too fast?
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>>563897732
how did we go from "eventually lose your turn if you fail mixup" characters from launch to allowing this level of shit?
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>>563900068
if you cant jab through it you can potbuster through it
so no
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>>563900216
you cant potbuster through it*

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