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Sophisticated Edition
>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/
>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/
>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/
>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.
>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.
Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gN JQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/
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First for fix doorman and give him viable builds again and do it RIGHT NOW!!!
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>bush
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I'd fuck a monster before touching a
>negro
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Okay what is going on with Matchmaking today?
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Death to all drifters. Tired of this toxic ass hero being able to snowball just because they go out of their way to keep killing the retarded feeder of the team.
Graves can go fuck off too- stupid weapon that goes against the philosophy of the game.
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I enjoy ivy’s presence just so I can mercilessly kill her stupid blabbering Spanish wetback ass every chance I get.
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>caught something yesterday
>having diarrhea all day
>feel weaker
>end up playing deadlock on an alt since the main is still banned
>don't have the strength to rage
>actually focus on gameplay
>even when losing at the start of each match, we end up winning 2 games
>my alt is now higher rank than main by two brackets (or whatever they are called, two ranks overall, not their divisions)
Wtf is going on
Still, tummy hurts and I'm shitting on the toilet right now (countless visit today)
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>Graves can go fuck off too- stupid weapon that goes against the philosophy of the game.
Its actually not her fault anyways, splitshot is a problematic item from graves getting a overlapping beam to vyper being able to shoot through kelvin domes, to paige trying to shoot you pointblank with a contra ass bullet pattern
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Is every drifter player both low mental and dogshit at the game?
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>>563866162
Well yeah, most are boosted as fuck. Free stacks for pressing 4 and walking around the map, a gun you have to put effort to miss someone with, and one of the most op ulties in the game. It's a pretty easy turn off you brain hero.
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Yes, but because you have a 0-15 infernus on your team the 0-3 drifter is now 9-3 and is starting to snowball out of control mid game and you can’t farm your jungle anymore because he smells you through walls and because he’s given a trail to follow to eliminate any chance of juking because god forbid drifter require any actual thought to use
Man what I would give for DOTA wards. That was at least I can have some semblance of security farming.
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>>563865893
>getting dog walked by Ivy, Drifter AND Graves
sucks to suck
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I know that ranking up is a mistake but losing ranks hurts so much..
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>>563867051
I dont go more than a single game without one of these brain dead faggots showing up
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>matchmaker attempts to dole out a support on each team every match
>it normally picks between ivy, paradox, kelvin, paige, and rem from what people have prio'd.
Under that criteria, I'd pick rem too yea
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>>563867051
He's a support that's also a cute mascot character, he was engineered in a lab to be appealing to a female playerbase, this is why he has the lowest winrate and highest pickrate. Get ready for every single sinner on the map to be eaten just for Rem to either do nothing with those souls or drop thousands of souls in bags to the enemy team!
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Gnome hero when
Plant creature hero when
Mothman hero when
Mushroom hero when
Tree hero when
Fairy hero when
Fresno nightcrawler hero when
Flatwoods monster hero when
Sewer alligator hero when
Hopkinsville goblin hero when
Sasquatch hero when
Snallygaster hero when
Hook door car door hero when
Pukwudgie hero when
leprechaun hero when
Spring-heeled Jack hero when
Jersey devil hero when
Chupacabra hero when
Centaur hero when
Wendigo hero when
Minotuar hero when
Hillbilly hero when
Hidebehind hero when
Loch-ness monster hero when
Lumberjack hero when
Sandown clown hero when
Slide-rock bolter hero when
Wampus cat hero when
Cthulhu hero when
Frogman hero when
Thunderbird hero when
Bunyip hero when
Grafton monster hero when
Phoenix hero when
Goblin hero when
Jackalope hero when
Nymph hero when
Orge hero when
>lets add another vampire
FUCKING BORING, I want more fearsome critters
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I shit all over ivy and I cherish every moment doing so, but she is cracked design-wise.
Graves design goes against the entire philosophy of aiming and movement based gameplay and her zombos being exploding on melee is really obnoxious.
Drifter only exists to punish bad players, and any + stat on kill design is generally a cancerous concept as it’s irrelevant at high skill tiers but becomes cancerous on low skill tiers or when you have a bad teammate.
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r8 my b8
heroes ranked by how difficult they are to pilot (eg how easy they are to play and consistently get value from)
this isn't a general tier list that assumes the player is good, but is instead "how easily could someone who is new to the game pick up this hero and do okay (and not feed) in their first game?"
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>>563867457
>pilot instead of play
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>any + stat on kill design is generally a cancerous concept as it’s irrelevant at high skill tiers
high ranks end games in 20 minutes
>but becomes cancerous on low skill tiers or when you have a bad teammate.
because low ranks cannot end games fast, average game goes 40-60, you are only getting a 20 minute game if there is some 30/0 smurf on the enemy team
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>>563867331
i don't see him often because he's very unpopular on my rank bracket, here lash the CHAD is the highest pickrate hero (based because he's one of the few honest heroes around)
he seems hyper popular in the shitter ranks
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does it really?
also from these ivy is by far the best pick because you can not play the throw role known as support ans go for spirit instead
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>>563867457
>shiv in the same tier as fucking geist, paige, dynamo, victor
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>silver is bad
>the only fucking win i've had today was with her
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uh oh somebody keeps getting owned by good doormen and is mad about it
a new player to doorman isnt pulling off the cart > door > walker combo, all noobs to doorman ive seen barely even use their carts and just become ultbots
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>I try to dive under enemy guardian to go after a 1 hp support
>I get ass raped in 3 seconds flat
>Enemy dives under my guardian
>They just sit there for 5 minutes plinking me down from full health
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someone dc'd right as the game started so i just went "meh nah i'll go play silver instead" and got bebop instead i have no idea why it says 20 minutes there the scoreboard is wrong too or those people still played the match? I have no idea
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>does it really?
It attempts to provide balanced teams from what people have prio'd down to it actually affecting your queue time greatly if you haven't ticked anything for roles.
Look at your team comps as you play, if it wasn't doing that every single m1 carry and initiator would be in 90% of your matches.
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>obnoxious scent mechanic means you can’t juke away- removing a large part of the gameplay and there is nothing you can do to stop it (in dota at least you can play around bloodseeker’s maphacks- but deadlock doesn’t have wards and there’s no counterplay to revealing signature)
>entire design is meant to punish low skill gameplay and lack of teammwork, which makes him shit at high tiers but exceptionally oppressive at low tiers
>having a struggling teammate or a bad lane sucks, but is not always a game-ending catastrophe- except with drifter it is.
Just a punishing design for low tiers that makes having bad teammates worse.
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>>563867434
vampires are cool tho and this is a good omen for more Ixians
personally i want fewer humans, furries, and robots - and more actual occult/folklore/spoopy type stuff
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That's why it's unplayable as a soloQ mm tries to give these losers their free win but just keep you down and as you lose games the chance goes up that you get put with shitstacks because the game lowers the avg mmr of the lobbies.
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>>563867051
he's cute and unique, I like playing him
I just wish he was a little better
or Dynamo, Kelvin, and Ivy were a little worse because whatever unique stuff Rem does kind of doesn't matter when The others can faceroll and probably do better unless they're really stupid
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I don't know if they're still doing it but looking at team comps it feels like they are
near the original leak and "opening" I remember there was some patch note that said they would balance lanes and teams with supports and frontliners but that was a long time ago
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If the Guardian is attacking a minion it doesn't have the same frame of parry
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>>563870181
If you knew anything about history you’d know Geist would say negro
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>>563870297
This is the fanmade one, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Valve took some “inspiration” from it
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I've become reasonably good at bastard farming on Graves until I become an unkillable demon and winning off of that, but I would like to be more useful in the midgame. Is there anything I can do? Should I be anticipating fights and showing up with my tombstone, or am I just better off being a split-push + jungle farm fuck until I outscale the enemies?
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Geist and Mirage definitely say negro as was the common term throughout the world at the time. McGinnis is some working class slag so shes either saying nigger or negro, unless if the evil babykilling corp she works for has some HR fuckery going on in 1949. Ivy definitely says negro shes some type of NYC latino amalgamation, Grey Talon might say it since negro was the proper term for nignogs for most his life, and really still was in 49'. Holliday may too for the same reason. Paige is the definitely the type to say colored/black in public and then mail the local newspaper about some filthy niggers disturbing the library.
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>>563870181
Holliday doesn't say it because she has a half-black child.
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>>563871269
>porn anatomy
disgusting
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what do i do if i'm playing a roamer but we lost all our lanes so the enemy has an advantage and/or is turbofed and i can't reliably duel/skirmish them as a resulr
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build cultist, cull waves, break boxes and>>563871705
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>>563867307
Drifters face really helps sell that
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>>563867434
>5
fug!
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>>563872315
Pisslow has the two extremes of retardation
>over commit to ending the match. Lose the fight and let the enemy get mid boss for free.
>missing your opportunity to win just so you can secure mid boss so you can farm jungle
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Kelvin down
Paradox down
Wraith down
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>Kelvin down
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oh yeah and Rem down twice with calico+GT up twice.
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>>563872456
>doorman at the top of complete nigger
>either intentionally to show he's the tippy top of that category or placed there first because there's absolutely no question about it
Doorman main here; thank you for noticing. No arguments here.
Mina in honest is insane though.
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>>either intentionally to show he's the tippy top of that category or placed there first because there's absolutely no question about it
kek you're right. Tierlist makers are ordered alphabetically, and Apollo and Celeste appear after him
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It's me... I'm the reason Rem has a low winrate...
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I think I'm done with this game until something is done about Kelvin and Dynamo and the rest of the Press 4 brigade.
The fact that there are abilities so over-centralizing that literally nothing that happens in the match matters except 'Does this character press 4 at the correct time more than 50% of the time' means that there's literally no point in even trying.
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we're buddies!
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IN HERE
I AM KING
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>>563875039
>In Here
>I AM KING
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>>563871363
It's called sex anatomy.
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You cannot keep the Wightman down Jakoids.
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Does this mean they're amping up production or are aiming for quicker, shorter batches of hero releases?
I wouldn't be against changing it a bit with a new hero every 2ish months. The wait for the second batch was hellish especially when they teased a potential dec release that never came.
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>Complain about random hero
No one really gives a shit
>Complain about the 3 highest winrate heroes(Dynamo, Seven, Infernus all 54+wr in ascendant+ btw)
YOU'RE SHIT YOU'RE SHIT YOU FUCKING SUCK JUST JUMP HIS STOMP JUST CLEANSE HIS STUN JUST DON'T STAND ON FIRE YOU'RE GIGALOW AND TRASH AT THE GAME
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Mina only seems useless late game when I try to play her. Other minas get fed, dodge infinite skillshits with their 2 and counterspell, then cleave execute triple kill half our team. Mind you I'm relatively shitlow - where my doorman shittery works wonders - but also teammates just let mina shoot them.
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Yep I noticed that too lmao.
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>>563876458
Boosted shits are extremely vocal about their mains being fair and balanced.
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>Team's Rem puts a helper on a sinner right in front of me as if I'm not just going to punch that shit off and take it for myself
They seriously need to remove the ability for him to take sinners for free, Rems end up griefing their team no matter which side's sinners they take
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bro this isn't even unusual the hero literally just sucks dick in solo queue. what good is a sleep when no one reacts? what good is map pressure and stealing resources when your teams shit anyways? he does nothing outside of improve macro for his team and if people aren't focused on macro at all it makes no difference.
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>>563875483
>they updated the memes so newfags would get it
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It's really hard to get excited about a 3rd (4th?) vampire even though his general design aesthetic is in my wheelhouse.
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they don't understand the things i say on twitter
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>>563867434
bro no way they made /dlg/ posters a cryptid?
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>M1 carry's ult is worse than the best ult in the game
Yeah no shit. Historically this would be the case in Dota but zoomers are used to LoL carries that have ults that instantly kill the entire enemy team.
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>get to latch onto people and basically be teleported right next to them
>overtuned as fuck and gives +40 SP so you can rape everyone with just 3 ability points invested
>get to ult for free mid boss contest and get out of jail free retard card because you're immune to all debuffs as well
>ridiculous fucking nukes on ridiculously low CD
yeah so honest!!!
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my favorite
>also tanky as shit
>moment you buy witchmail, bad teams can't stop you anymore from how insanely often her 3 fires healing her greatly to go with her 2 causing her to relocate everywhere spastically
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>still no female Ixian
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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I CAN'T TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE
ONE FUCKING GOOD GAME AND NOW I'M CONSTANTLY MATCHED WITH SOME FUCKING SKILLZORDS THAT MAKE ME FEEL CONSTANTLY USELESS IF I'M NOT ON A 24/7 LANE JANNY DUTY AS SOME FUCKING SUPPORT CHARACTER SINCE I CAN'T CONTRIBUE FOR SHIT AS ANYONE ELSE
I FUCKING STARTED PLAYING 3 DAYS AGO I'M NOT EVEN 20 HOURS IN
TAKE ME BACK TO SHITTER LOBBIES NOT THIS TRYHARD SHIT
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I love my wife so fucking much
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>pick the worst scaling gun in the entire fucking game
>"wow this feels dishonest"
no I can assure you you're just retarded and incapable of analysis. capacitor works better on literally anyone else with a rapid firing gun.
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>>563878703
You are the one making it weird
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I've played this game for over 100 hours now
I'm only Alchemist 6 or w/e
What do I have to do to get to a significantly higher rank over the next 100 hours? Seriously.
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>>563879220
>get afterburn + toxic bullets proc
>1200 damage
I LOVE DISPEL MAGIC META AND HOW ESSENTIAL IT IS TO NOT JUST DIE TO 1 SECOND OF FACE TIME. I LOVE HOW HE CAN SIMPLY REAPPLY IT INSTANTLY ANYWAYS. I LOVE PASSIVE SLOP M1GGER CHARACTERS RUINING THE GAME!!!
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>>563879195
Over the next 100 hours try to play at least 400 hours
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>>563879509
I'm not >>563878703
Interpreted anon's post just fine
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This aint Marvel Rivals. You dont get a higher rank by grinding in this game. You have to actually improve your gameplay or Yoshi doesn't let you move up. He lets you get carried on 10 game win streaks but your rank stays the same.
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>>563879696
I like all kinds of women
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>>563880009
>I like all kinds of women
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>>563880406
Are (you) in the secret playtest anon?
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Can you learn to love me too?
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>3 vampires before one classic american cryptid
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>>563879696
>performative
You are a brainless faggot with no internal monologue
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>>563878837
how do you build gun ivy? toxic bullets like buuuuuuh every other build?
i tried doing thorn spam but you can only keep people in the chudzu for so long
>>563878867the cocks in your ass today are a lesson on how to sissygasm forever
keep cumming sister
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>>563881369
Who else but Bigfoot? Plot twist: he's a Tiny copy and starts the game as Smallfoot.
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>>563881369
HES IN
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>Bigfoot is added
>He has character interactions with a journalist/photographer character who basically fanboys/girls over him and REALLY wants to take a photo of him
Kino...
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Flatwoods monster because they could make it a cute monster girl
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>>563882685
I just can't fucking do anything. Give me a character that always contributes something. I'm fucking tired of trying to play normal characters against fuckers who've been clearly playing for far, far longer than me.
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It was pretty high, considering the other lanes couldn't even take a guardian.
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Jersey Devil when
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>>563882120
>Stealth tank roamer with an electric burst.
>Ultimate has him phase out and do a slow walk that disables and or silences an area for a duration.
>Characters inside the ultimate hear forest ambiance with different Bigfoot calls sampled from all those hunting Bigfoot shows.