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I'm thinking of getting into Foxhole. From veterans to a prospective newtard, is it a game that's worth getting into in 2026? In particular I am interested in:
>frontline medic or artillery work
>paratrooper operations
>large ships and submarines
Does the current state of the game practically enable these roles to the point of them being fun, and does faction choice matter for taking part in those roles?
Also, Foxhole thread.
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>>2345352
>frontline medic
One of the only solo things you can do and will net you frontline fame from infantry
>artillery network
harder to get into as a solo and requires working with randoms/clannies, usually by late game most bunkers have arty positions set up for defense but setting up arty for pushes requires group coordination
>paratrooper operations
You, as a solo, won't ever build a plane unless you are a NEET. You can find open pubbie squads late game recruiting randoms for paradrops.
>large ships and submarines
same for large planes, you won't ever get to ride in one of these boats and the calls that go out for them often consist of being a repair slave
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>>2345717
From what I could tell joining a regiment is expected for a lot of things. Is Foxhole just another one of those "if you want to do anything interesting, go organize it in a clan discord or go fuck yourself" games?
>the calls that go out for them often consist of being a repair slave
Grim. Bleak.
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>>2345743
It entirely depends on what you want to do. Tanks are much more realistic to operate as a solo player or small group, planes require a lot of resources and a facility to construct which is possible but takes a long time to do alone on top of having to care for the facility with supplies.
>frontline medic
easily the most accessible in your list
>paratroopers
people often call for paratroopers to join them on their operations, so it's a pretty regular thing to participate in. If you're looking to operate your own plane, that's much more complicated and requires a lot of resources and a base of your own to construct.
>large ships and submarines
again requires a lot of resources and you'll need crew. I suppose it's possible you could build your own ship, but pretty unlikely you'd be able to put it all together on your own let alone actually operate it.
>artillery
Not actually too difficult to operate, the shells are the part that would take the longest and you need 3 people to operate one gun effectively (2 people to turn, one of them then switches to a loader, and one spotter).
>>2345743
>if you want to do anything interesting, go organize it in a clan discord or go fuck yourself
There's plenty of small-scale things you can do on your own. Tanks are very accessible and not at all difficult to acquire. Things like planes are more difficult as they require rarer materials that people are always hounding resource fields for.
>does faction choice matter
Not really. Colonial struggles a bit with naval at the moment because Wardens recently got torpedo planes, Colonial ships are often badly designed, and anti-air honestly kinda sucks overall so most Colonial ships are quite vulnerable. Warden planes definitely edge out Colonial in general except in the ground support role but otherwise the factions have their strengths and weaknesses.
Warden right now outpopulates Colonial, so if you pick Warden expect queues into busy areas and longer respawn times.
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>>2345352
Heavily censored by ban happy troon mods so its reddit the video game and its absolutely infested with trannies / pedos. They are drawn to this game like a moth to a light for some reason.
Games in the last stages anyways with its pop limits and ques making the game annoying.
Id avoid it.
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>>2345352
Dont bother playing the game is already on its way out
>medic
Actually not a terrible experience, but you will grow frustrated of the general infantry experience of being obliterated constantly by unseen enemies you cant even retaliate against
>artillery
Do you like picking up shells, walking 5ft and then putting those shells in a gun like a cuckold so someone else can have fun? No? Then you better get good at sucking up to manchild and troon egos or else you will never find a clan that lets you shoot the gun
>paratrooper
Rare, reserved for late game, and most of what you will do is wait 60mins to hear that the drop is cancelled or you get to drop to your near instant death for 0 gains
>large ship
All you will ever get to do is sit inside the hull of the ship pressing the repair button over and over, you will never be allowed to do anything more interesting
In summary anon, this is a game for people who like being cucks for troons and their allies, if you want to be a slave then go ahead, you might even have fun, but you could get a real job desu and have just about as much fun...and at least get paid
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>>2345743
Yes. Most of the game is barred behind facilities and large logistical operations.
>>2345781
As this anon said you can access the smaller scale tanks and do most infantry stuff on your own or with a few friends but everything else will come down to large group dedication. Late game for both factions becomes a matter of players logging in to use vehicles and supplies since both factions have a surplus of them.
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>>2346341
>Join Colonial
>Deploy to a fun looking front
>Hear troon voices and see she/her nametags within 60 seconds
>Log off
>Change to Warden
>Deploy to front that looks fun
>Warden clan people telling a tranny YWNBAW
>Nobody fights them on it and the tranny leaves the region
>This might actually work out
>Look at World Chat and see chomo spamming troonradio and perverse speaking that blots out any actual vital game discussion
>Log off
No side is safe, but at least Wardens are better at silencing and crushing troons on a hex level
Probably because Wardens just have better culture, and more white people and euros overall, Colonials are full of mud genes
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>>2345352
i will never in my life understand why so many people play these kind of games as a little slave cuck to enable others' ability to have fun
it's not even like playing a support or a healer they literally spend hours and hours doing the most tedious menial crap with zero reward
i guess it goes to show that there will always be rich and poor people because there really are natural slaves
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>>2345743
>Is Foxhole just another one of those "if you want to do anything interesting, go organize it in a clan discord or go fuck yourself" games?
That's the devs' vision for the game. It didn't used to be like that, but the devs and the loudest, screechiest players have been pushing it in that direction for a long time. The game isn't entirely locked off behind discords, but organic content is in dire straits.
If you get it, buy it after the next update (current one is half-baked and no guarantee the devs fix the game) and wait for a sale.
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>>2348970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiI2VLNiFeA
>Raidey - Raiden (she/her) tags in majority of his videos
>clearly a male by the sound of the voice
>in SOM
Sorry anon. Both factions are pozzed and always have been since 2021~. Quit being a nigger.
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>>2345352
>>frontline medic or artillery work
Medic is easy and can be done anywhere, for arty just join any group that operates the guns and ask to help. Most are nice and willing to teach (you might get bothered with regi invites for doing this).
>>paratrooper operations
There are sometimes oublic paratrooper Operations, but that's a bit rare (I'm Warden, no idea about Collies). A Warden para Operation also needs 12 people, so keep that in mind.
>>large ships and submarines
Warden regiment TELE teaches everyone on large ships, they teach all roles talk to them for that (Again no idea about Collies).
Join Able Shard to do this stuff, Charlie shard has not much going on at the moment.
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>>2349134
>Shilling TELE despite it being a groomer regi
There are no Naval regi's left that are not pozzed and taken over by troons
The best thing any new foxholer can do is stay far away from naval hexes to avoid dealing with mentally ill autists and tranny groomers
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>>2345352
Just don’t.
This game sits on a permanent undercaste of masochists, NEETs (trannies) and suicidals (trannies) who toil away 9-9-7 to amasse basic resources, managing bots to keep idle clan stockpiles afloat all while public logi is often neglected or given bare minimum. And the devs are quite aware of this too, they will occasionally ban a couple multiboxers for plausible deniablity, but the amount of botting means the devs get a big cashflow from alt accounts.
t. 2k+ hr logi/fac main
This game wastes a ton of time. I have had plenty of fun with it prior to Naval and Airborne, but the amount of excruciating grind poured into supporting actually fun roles just makes me sick.
Ive heard there are a couple foxhole inspired games in the making, I hope they do well because its probably the only thing thats going to get Markfoot(dev) to stop sniffing his own dilation fluids.
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>>2350212
People excusing the obvious tranny infestation and grooming in foxhole are likely troons themselves. Probably one of the seething queers from the foxhole discord who can help himself reading these threads.
This game is dead.
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>>2350226
>game is dead
>more players than it's ever had and charts show typical post update lowpoint but with more players than usual lows
you have an obsession with trannies who are infesting every fucking online game, you should at least start charging them rent for the head space
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>>2350432
The tranny protector strikes back!
Nah dude, this games already past its peak after airborne, the engine limits future potential and player limits as well thats why GroomerCamp is transitioning to anvil and the new engine.
With the peak being reached, players leaving the game and the community progressively growing its HIV viral load to fullblown AIDS with mass bannings / censorship, gatekeeping and the :3 uwu cum troon infestation this shit aint even fun anymore. Theres so many better games and communities out there without risking HIV infection and troons competing 24/7 for whos the biggest faggot in world chat.
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>>2349626
if true about foxhole inspired games coming out of the wood works I look forward to it
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>>2349250
All major clans Warden side are pozzed and the one I could potentially name that isn't would out who I am or at least give most a general idea of who I could be.
TELE is pozzed for sure 10/10.
>>2349730
Then you're just a disingenuous faggot then. Not difficult to lurk shitcord and troonit to find these fags. Both are content generators.
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>>2350894
You're in scum and I can tell because you're calling out Tele while saying you're in a not pozzed regi.
despite Tele being pozzed they're easily the best naval regi in the game with the strongest large ship crews. They also clearly prioritize fun, mostly going out to PVP, and are even willing to have fair 1v1 duels with collie clans.
WN I don't know a lot about.
Scum (you) are mainly gunboat goons. Your large ships suck, but you compensate with consistent and admirable gunboat gameplay.
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>>2350939
>Justly calls out SCUM for being useless faggots
>Turns around and calls TELE good while still acknowledging they are pozzed
Is it so hard to just say the truth? Both are shitty fagged out clans
Both deserve to burn in hell and be griefed out of the game
>"WN I don't know a lot about."
Formerly hero chud clan that turned into a faggot cesspool that are also just gunboat kiddies
Only clan left that does naval sometimes and is based is lambda who correctly want to see all troons kicked out of foxhole and put in gas camps where they belong
Join Lambda if you want fun and fellow chuds, otherwise go be a troon whipped slave where you belong nigger
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>>2350945
Tele are good in a gameplay sense. They consistently outperform everyone every time. And as I said, they just wanna pvp. They don't care much for killing cores and will only send out their ships to pve when there's really no more pvp left to be had. It also says a lot that Tele is the only warden naval clan willing to occasionally go collie to have fun with different toys and a different style of pvp.
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>>2351043
>Bitch nigger so assmad about trannies he'll destroy his own credibility to spread lies about them
Everyone thinks you're an obnoxious fag worse than any troon because you'll just make up shit
Tele mogs every warttranny naval regi and it's not even close.
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>>2350894
>Then you're just a disingenuous faggot then. Not difficult to lurk shitcord and troonit to find these fags. Both are content generators.
Nope. I have zero desire to spend my time joining random discords to try and find trannies but you go have fun with that bossman
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>>2351120
>Troon husbando howling propaganda of known troon regi desu
A few chudbro’s do more with LARP OPs than TELE does in 1 week of a war because TELE is too busy gifting resources to their pozzed chomo regiment leaders
>>2351137
>Thing #1 is wrong anon!
>But not Thing #2 that is the reason Thing #1 keeps happening in the first place! That’s irrelevant!
The developers get all their ideas from these faggots, you think Markshit isn’t keeping tabs on CevicheleMAN’s tranny babbling online?
The dev’s respond to these troons publicly unprompted and feature them on community highlights.
Open your eyes to the truth, you are being replaced.
Every problem in Foxhole is because of what these “people” suggest should be done to “fix” the game.
>>2351143
Hi Cev, by the way you smell like shit and have aids desu
Why don’t you draw another shitty webtoon before one of the people you get banned unjustly finally has a melty with nothing to lose
You think banning me did anything? I’m back and I already griefed your little troon base in Kalokai, all that arti and defensive upgrades made facing the wrong way and that shitty FAC that got in the way of your defenses? You think that was random desu? I am never going to stop ridding Foxhole of you scum
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thread status check:
>a warden clan shill
you play foxhole, youre a nigger
>a colonial clan shill
you also play foxhole, you are also a nigger
>cev smelling like poop
well duh
>ropester griefed that fat fuck
post the location chad
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>>2351235
the other anon say cevs base is kalokai is a lier nigger
the trans base is the defense line that covers all keelhaul south. have seen the homo there many time since the start of the war building and repairing. many defense structure have his name on it.
ive seen the homo complain about being griefed by alts before in hex. even i do my part by adding bad modification sometime. )))
i dont do to much because i still want to win war and it is important front. but i do things to offend him in small ways. i make myself appear fool so he doesnt report.
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>>2345352
extreemly boring game, basically an MMO with no rewards, realistic to WW1 om that sense. in the odd chance you get to do something fun it takes 3-4 other real players to NOT have fun i.e driving a tank.
if you want to just be a cog in the wheel this is it, else just play hell let loose or something
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>>2350939
>you're in SCUM
Not affiliated with that faggy clan in the slightest. Choke on BMATS nigger.
>>2350956
TELE couldn't break Stema last war until Goblins already quit. They suck at gameplay. Could've been carpet bombing conc defenses for future naval invasions but instead repeatedly did the same:
>send big boat in
>fire at airfield
>get btfo'd
>capture undefended relic islands
>pat self on back
>go home
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>>2351448
>basically an MMO with no rewards
??? The reward is the dank gameplay.
>be a cog in the wheel this is it
That's the whole point of the game. It even says that you are just a a cog in the machine, not the main character, right in the introductory splash screen you get first thing after installing the game.
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>>2351269
Fuck you nigger
I got permbanned because the dickless transvestite horde reported me. I would have never gone there to grief if you had not said where it was.
I hope you get drafted you Russojew
>PSA if you modify and grief structures theres apparently some sort of log that lets other players see it and report you.
How do you get past permabans in this game?
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>>2352987
>how do I get past a permaban?
>step 1: reformat pc
>step 2: change mac address
>step 3: buy steam key for $5 from a reseller
>step 4: play again
Alternatively you could download the sketchy looking software for mac address spoofing but I don't recommend it. If you want to grief a base just plant mines and barbed wire every where. Also, don't brag about it in the thread. These freaks are monitoring it and probably sending it in with their reports.
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>>2351448
> in the odd chance you get to do something fun it takes 3-4 other real players to NOT have fun i.e driving a tank
it's actually the other way around. for most things that are fun there's 1 role that is boring as fuck. shell pallet runner for arty or BT loader come to mind.
Unless you're on a large ship then it's 20 people stuck doing bitch work so 8 or so people can have fun.
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>>2355132
>it's actually the other way around. for most things that are fun there's 1 role that is boring as fuck.
you sure about that?
>tank
>driver: WASD cuck, cant see shit so just has to get screamed at like a blind person
>commander: Bino cuck, sometimes has a shitty MG that cant hit anything
>loader: R cuck
>repairman: left click cuck
>machinegunner: about as fun as using a mounted MG, it's just sort of fun, often a cuck at the mercy of the gunners aiming
>gunner: actually fun, you have an army of cuck slaves and you get to kill whatever you want
your idea of fun must be being a cuck anon, because the other anon is right, theres only like 1 fun role for every 3-4 cuck roles
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>>2355640
several of them actually are clanmen using alt accounts and bots
ive seen automated AA networks where 4 people are on AA guns but only 1 is a real person with all the other guns being connected to his inputs
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>>2355730
Same as tank engineer and commander. Many things in this game can easily be automated with botnets. This kinda shit needs to be removed from the game.
Also shit like ship loader that's too complex to be automated but still compete NPC shit.
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i got invited to a foxhole discord that is just for posting nsfw images amongst foxholers, many of the sickos there are making nsfw art of their anime girl characters
i have learned just how many of the “artists” in foxhole are just chomo trannys who use foxhole to lure young boys into their servers
this game needs to die, if you are reading this samsaturai, if i ever see you on foxhole i will make it my mission to get you banned you sick fuck
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>>2356040
Wardens and trying to kill this game just they can say "we won!" name a more common duo
Warden players have a culture that has over time attracted the most autistic subhuman factional loyal types, Colonials still have bad loyalists but Wardens act like their faction is their identity.
Even normie fags going full blast at a pride event are less annoying and weird than Warden players
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>>2355889
many such cases.
pre-hrt gayboy perverts posing as trans women. Running around being obnoxious and cringey. Very harmful to actual trans people if im breaking character for a sec.
cev smells like dirt and moldy cheese. also how the fuck do I take off in a scout plane, these controls are legit so bad like holy shit
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>>2356111
>Very harmful to actual trans people if im breaking character for a sec.
i cant say everything i want to say to you because the jannies would delete it
play something other than foxhole, get help and see your ways must change
today you can change for the better and help fight the disease, or you can face the wall tomorrow along with the rest of the parasites
>>2356115
i should have gone warden
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>>2356162
I know youre an illiterate nigger that is incapable of understanding elevated concepts. So im not mad at you. Just disappointed.
Getting them to fight amongst themselves over their own ideals works so much better than anything else. you dont understand their ideals and thats good you dont need to, leave the actually doing something to the pros. But I'd suggest keeping focus that this is a videogame community cleanup and not an irl genocide.
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>>2356367
>admiting your nothing but a traitor trying to downplay
you arent tricking anyone here you nigger
other than cev what other troons are there? i know of reina and xyara and how they both try to chomo via foxhole
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>>2345352
Lmao, it's pretty cool ig lol
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>>2356367
Honestly truth nuke right there
Coping low skill baby eaters will die, while a higher form emerges to take their place
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>>2353023
You dont have to reformat your pc, you have to delete the traces of foxhole from your %appdata folder. Change your IP, buy on a new steam account. MAC address can be changed without downloading any tools, ask an llm how.
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>>2356480
Will give it a try thanks
I read Warden are less report obsessed tranvestites and that you can play the game normally there, and they seem more represented here as channers than the reddit cucks on Colonial
Does anyone have any good chud names I can use that would fly under the radar of the rainbow mafia?
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>>2355889
Yeah its been like this for a while. This game is like roblox, full of pedo trannies. The entire foxhole discord is just trannies being obnoxious, you can easily go through it and find the biggest freaks. The foxhole mods have curated the community over many years through aggressive censorship and bans to enable such a community to exist, allowing a malignant tumor to metastasize.
Play other games where there isnt constant grooming and pedos sucking eachother off in chat and talking about cock and estrogen.
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>>2356115
>60 second respawn timers and queuehole makes game shit for warttrannies
>Warttrannies mad collies won't be content for them after they metagamed the game to near death
>Game's actually boring without a challenge
>Realize you need two to tango
>Feel nagging conscience telling you that you maybe need to swap for the good of the game
>Cognitive dissonance hits like a truck, too much to handle, double down on factionalism
>Spam comic everywhere in a desperate attempt to claim moral victory. Death of game is preferable to admitting your mindset was wrong
>Solve no problems
>Game dies
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>>2357951
What ever makes you sleep better at night, tranny
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>>2357938
>non-stop buffs
what buffs lmao. Lunaire still exists, Nemesis still exists, Conc got nerfed into the ground because Collies refuse to build their midline and can't into organization beyond vetstacking CPass. Best Wardens get is Satchels being buffed to be on par with Hydra as a sloppy seconds for getting the most shit tier useless para plane.
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>>2358237
>collies
>vetstacking
This is a joke right? The vet pop on collies is none existent. They all gradually gave up on the game when the devs made it perfectly clear that collies only exist as a gimped punching bag for wardens
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>>2358269
I forget there are a bunch of newfags here who weren't around during the days of MSA rolling CGate day 1 only to stall out and give up lmao.
>>2358276
Conc got nerfed to shit, lolnaire is more dominant than ever, and Collies now have the best pve planes. If you haven't figured out how to push lategame now that conc is useless then there's no buffs that will be sufficient to fix your skill issue lmao.
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>>2358237
>the most shit tier useless para plane.
Literally every other warden plane is better than collie equivalent and wardens also have a whole extra plane to combo with their better carrier.
Herald VS Daedalus is so ridiculous unbalanced that this alone killed collie interest in the update. The only plane 90% of players have any chance of flying is a complete punching bag NPC fodder for its warden equivalent and everyone who has swapped factions agrees that it's not even close.
Collie fighter has to compete with two warden fighters. Both warden fighters have twice the utility of the collie fighter. Collie fighter is only marginably better than Harbinger and equally powerful as White Raven, leaving collies with no power advantage for no utility.
>But it's faster!
Only a very tiny bit more than Harbinger. And it pays for this by having the lowest stats of all fighters. Blind Silver players have to be 200 IQ aces to win from the warden fighters who are way more nooby friendly
>But the 14.5mm sucks
No it doesn't and your own pilots already realized this. It means that loitering on Harbinger isn't wasted time, they can cut logi and damage push guns without risking having no ammo for an engagement.
>But White Raven is hard to land!
Get good. Practice and take your time to land. The entire ocean is your runway, take the space you need.
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>>2358359
Torpedo bomber counters 20 players on a vehicle that costs over 9 times as many rares as it. Divebomber counters vehicles that all cost less than it except for the already barely used RSC that's obsolete due to bombers anyway. Divebomber is also easy as piss to kill now because warden tankers are more important to devman than collie navy players.
Both small bombers are actually bait and you should build heavy bombers instead. Speaking of which. Warden heavy bomber is just entirely better than the collie one. It used to have an actual downside but letting a warden thing be a tiny bit worse than a collie thing was so mentally painful to devman that they gave it 3 more bombs and renamed it to a heavy bomber to be equal to the collie bombers. It of course got no nerfs and the collie bomber got no buffs for this. Meaning that the warden bomber now has more fuel range and better maneuvering for the lower price of not having an actively determinal noob trap nose turret that just makes it harder to get through queues.
Finally we get to the paratrooper planes. The only aircraft where the wardens without a shadow of a doubt got it worse. But the warden plane still functions just fine as an actual paratrooper plane, it does it's purpose. And it is also compensated for not being amphibious and being harder to jump out of by having more fuel range on the plane where this matters the most and having more inventory space for sky logi trips.
>Hurr collies are so demoralized they know all the ways our stuff is better than theirs!!!
Sorry for noticing things and having pattern recognition.
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>>2358359
holy cope
>muh scout planes
yeah how dare Wardens have something passably usable early war after years of Bomastone spam and Argenti shadowdancers. Go throw another bitch fit on r*ddit kid.
not gonna respond to the rest of your gay cope lol. You Collie niggers threw the war in hopes of getting uber buffs from the devs and now you're review bombing the game like a bunch of spoiled fucking children. Thank God the developers don't listen to you whiny faggots.
Get fucking gud lol. You kids would never have survived the 7 war losing streak the Wardens had to deal with in the 90's wars.
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>>2357951
Tranny detected, are you here because you need help finding some rope?
Foxhole is a game that lets you choke niggers to death with gas grenades like a SS hero, you shouldn't get in trouble for saying a few harmless slurs
Jamal is gonna take your job O7
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>>2358450
>Hihi scouts don't matter lol
>Scouts totally don't dominate small scale naval engagements
>Scouts totally aren't a fantastic engagement boost that gives solos and small groups the actual experience they want from the airborne update
>It's not "war winning impact" (warttranny's favorite term)
Wardens are such fucking disingenuous niggers. All of you would be shitting yourselves to death if you got ours like you did when you subhumans got mercy and started review bombing before you even got to use it.
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>spent hours building a base
>grind msups for weeks to maintain the base while the hex is having a grand 1 kill / minute fight
>heavy bomber unlocked
>immediately abandon the base
DANK GAMEPLAY, SO MUCH FUN
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>>2358489
>He can't wait 2 weeks to unlock his fighter and absolutely shit on scout planes
Maybe if you spiritual jews didn't give up and throw any war you don't win by day 3 you wouldn't need to play the perpetual victim while shitting up every forum begging for buffs.
The Colonial cries out in pain as he strikes you.
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>>2358822
>fighters that 90% of players might only pilot once per war
40 rares per plane is dirt cheap, especially when you collie jew rats dupe em by the thousands
> magic all their randoms into staying around
apparantly to the Colonial mind the ability to not incessantly bitch and moan nonstop is """"magic""". lol.
>you bitch faggots just straight up give up on early war
never happenned. the "Wardens don't play early war" psyop was proven to be bullshit over and over again (see: CGate during Inferno)
>Nobody gets excited for bomastones or lunaires.
lol. lmao even.
>but we're bullying the devs
thank you for finally admitting that your strategy is to throw wars and beg for buffs.
>Nobody is more hebrew than the warttroons.
not if your kvetching is anything to go off lmao
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>>2358822
>Collie tears
Add all the slurs u like but it is obvious u are a brownfaced nigger
U play Collie for the same reason all the other niggers do
Ur green and brown like the mud u should be toiling boy ))
Wardensupremacy1488
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>>2358966
You can tell he's the real jew because he won't acknowledge that people most players will never regularly access anything more expensive than a scout and that for small groups and solos it's their only access to flight. So it's pretty discouraging when it's worse in quite literally every conceivable way and that this would make them not want to play. Every single person who has flown both agrees that it's not even close.
But collies get to throw a grenade that's relevant for about three days two feet further so that justifies everything.
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>>2358316
>you may only have 3 guys in hex and wardens have a 50 man queue but if you aren't pushing then that's skill issue
Wardens have every advantage you can possibly ask for and still try to pretend the game is balanced
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>>2359087
Wardens are totally pop overstacked now, because Charlie Wardens quit in mass to move over to Able permanently.
Not just a few, whole regiments, easily 300-500 people and a noticeable amount of nolivers amongst them, it was a reaction to the Collie seal clubbing on Charlie.
Able Collies won't win any War for the rest of the year, the pop imbalance is to great now. Those people actually play the game and they are used to much higher Charlie logi demands and the necessary hour input for that output.
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