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The Red One Edition
What is Pokémon Sleep?
Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.
Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.
FAQ:
>How do Shinies work?
If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, a single Poké Biscuit will auto-befriend it.
>What should I spend my diamonds on?
Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, everything else is up to what's convenient for you.
>When should I use my items?
When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.
>What should I spend my sleep points on?
Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.
>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?
The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.
>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?
Nope! Pokémon retain any progress from when you last saw them.
>How do dream clusters work?
The higher your research rank, the more shards you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.
>Official Pages
https://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/
https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/
>Unofficial Wiki
[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.
https://pks.raenonx.cc/en
>Alternative Calculator
https://nerolislab.com/
>Simple Candy Calculator
https://candy.blspnm.com
**For safety, back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. Or at least copy your Support ID from the Pokémon Sleep launch screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**
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>>59136775
Went to GGEX also.
First roll was Flying / Poison / Steel which was unacceptable, rerolled and got Ice / Poison / Fairy.
I just cooked dinner, have had one crit and at 540k strength. This is good pace to hit Master ranks by Thursday or Friday, my team focus is skill boosted cooking and ingredient gathering, with Wigglytuff healing and Walrein gathering berries (and the occasional ingredient magnet).
It really does hinge on luck though with two Pokémon boosting tasty chances. I might alternate my Vaporeon with Mew if my ingredients storage caps out.
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>>59136775
Went to Lapis since I figured Expert would probably hamper my Latias Down gains. I have few skill types for the area, but it's not really going to matter much for the first week anyways.
Looks like they also managed to integrate some event props into the background.
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I didn't know why I get so many Calm Rufflets...
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I purged a lot of inactives, pls add frens
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Does anybody know if the event music is an original song or a remix? I only know that it's not from gen 3.
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You probably ought to post your sleep name along with your code, because you have to make space before searching a friend code. Chances are someone already had you on their list, so they have to make space beforehand to even check.
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End of day one, only one crit on dinner
Decided to use two whistles to barely reach the cutoff point for 8 spawns day 1, will hit ultra 4 in the morning for enough down to redeem for a latias incense which I've bought a master biscuit for
After tonight I'll be high enough strength to have a shot at a natural latias encounter, so I wanted to incense on the only night I know I didn't have a shot at a natural encounter. Also less chances for a shiny to appear on the base latias
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Not bad for no prep, but I did get a couple lucky meal crits. There really aren't many bonuses power-wise, so I imagine this week is going to be pretty standard. Gardevoir is going to pull up a lot of leeks and corn though, which is nice.
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>>59138774
It is indeed a remix, but it's not from the games.
It's from the Pokémon Heroes film OST, "Search for the girl" or "Mystery Girl".
https://youtu.be/PHTCoCpl9dA
https://youtu.be/MT2EiDnQfIM
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>>59139094
Oh wow, it's been too long since I've watched M05. The only movie BGM I remember is the ocarina song from M02.
Wasn't expecting Sleep to use any movie or anime content, but they had a bit that was obviously in Altomare in the Direct teaser and M05 is apparently the most popular in Japan so I can guess their line of thought
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>>59139110
I remember strongly disliking M05 when I watched it on TV years ago, since the story was really dissatisfying; bad people do bad things and a terrible upsetting thing happens with no bittersweetness. I don't remember the actual specifics though.
Maybe the Japanese version was better executed? I got "what the fuck are you doing" vibes on the level of Rose from Sword / Shield.
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I really can't wait to get rid of these, but you can only use them in Amber...
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>got my first Latias this morning
>only collects tomatoes
>>59139772
>drifloon not stockpiling
My piss balloon refuses to give any ingredients
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>>59141123
Ah, I completely forgot about stat comparisons.
And then I made this, but also completely forgot about event bonuses applying automatically on raenon. Whatever. This still gives a decent picture despite having +25% skill trigger and +1 ingredients per pickup.
Looks like its energy recovery can even compete with Gardevoir, but Latias will be more inconsistent since it has to hit Pokemon individually. It's also a bit tricky, because unlike the dogs which barely activate on a good day, Latias can make better use of skill-related subskills and natures, more similar to Cressalia. Because Latias's skill is part Extra Helpful, Latias is really going to want BFS in case it hits itself. As it stands, it can probably be pretty decent with a good roll, but it's still going to require Latios to meet its full potential.
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>>59141442
Actually, sorry I misread the skill energy readouts, because that's not how it works at all. In these calculations, Latias will output a cumulative total of ~300 energy to random members, but Gardevoir is outputting 150 energy to the entire team (a cumulative total of ~750 energy). Given Dragonite and Altaria both have Charge Energy, Latias still might be fine as your sole energy battery on a full Dragon team.
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>dedenne full with 1 pip left after dumping 2 great biscuits even though it was hungry
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This is always my fear with feeding Pokemon. Or at the very least that it'll be hungry next time it shows up with no way to take advantage of it. That's why if I ever leave anything with extra pips, it'll have at least 3 pips left to be filled by either a Poke Biscuit crit, or just a plain Daily Biscuit.
Overfeeding Pokemon always feels bad, so there should be some type of overflow compensation. The way I imagine it, if a Pokemon was going to become full from the base value of the biscuit used, some of the crit would carry over to the next bar... no more than 3 pips, I imagine.
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Unfortunately, I don't think it's going to be worth using Latias in the second week. Even with the extra berry, its skill mostly amounts to less than 60 extra helps. While its own gathering is OK, your Latias is going to be at such a low level that most other Pokemon should overtake its berry power even with it under ideal conditions.
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>>59147188
It's not like there's a mechanic where sleeping with a Latias on your team has bonus effects either. So far that's only applied to Cresselia during that Vs Darkrai event, in the form of a Drowsy Power multiplier.
Now there's an idea for a new main skill; Drowsy Power multipliers. That would definitely be something to restrict to a special Pokémon.
It would function just like Tasty Chance S; applies to your next sleep session and resets during sleep research.
An aside, if you're waiting until later in the week to use your Latias incense like I am, 2 star sleep requires Master 13 at Greengrass or Master 7 at GGEX.
GGEX M7 has a higher strength requirement than GG M19, so if you're in this to try and discover all three Latias sleep styles you may want to consider going to regular Greengrass next week.
GGEX is potentially better for increased chances at encountering Latias through improved research yields, allowing you get more incenses.
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>>59148336
GGEX works as follows
>One of three effects is chosen, which apply to all Pokémon that gather Snorlax's favorite berries:
>Berry effect where favorite berries are 2.4x stronger rather than 2x stronger
>Ingredient effect where helpers gather +1 ingredients, sometimes +2 if they're ingredient specialists
>Skill effect where skill trigger chance is increased by 1.25x
These bonuses can also stack with event bonuses, but are weighted against picking bonuses that overlap with the current event.
E.g. this week's event features bonus skill trigger chances AND bonus ingredient counts for skill specialists, so GGEX visitors are more likely to get the berries effect than the other effects. (I got berry effect).
>Primary favorite berry gives same-type helpers a 10% helping speed bonus and +1 main skill level
>Secondary favorite berries have no penalties or special bonuses
>Pokémon that gather non-favorite berries get a 15% helping speed penalty
>Weekly missions feature 20 hour sleep missions, where 20 hours with the primary favorite type gets handy candy S, and secondary favorite type gets type candy S (technically better reward because they give more candies overall)
>The master 3 mission incense reward is apparently decided by your primary favorite berry (though my mission this week contradicts that)
Primary and secondary favorites doesn't affect berry strength, but it does decide if one type gets special treatment, and it decides what missions and candy rewards you get.
There's also nothing related to Snorlax's dish request, just the usual thing where you're less likely to get the same dish request two weeks in a row (but it can still happen, or an event might have a fixed request).
The phrasing of GGEX effects when you review them from the Map screen, also suggests that future Expert maps may have different effects. They may balance them around the fact that future maps will probably have fixed favorite berries (likely matching the current maps).
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Damn I thought the first berry was guaranteed 2.4 power. No wonder I've been so shit, I always get the damn ingredient bonus instead. This is the first time I've gotten 2.4 berry power and I'm on track to hit master by tomorrow instead of Sunday
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Day 300 of my quest for a shiny female ralts.
Seems like it will take more than a year. Since unlocking the lakeside I've been camping there every week besides special events that omit it, and only caught 28 ralts so far.
Being able to swap out Darkrai for Mew has been a huge boost, not the least because Mew has always been one of my favorite pokemon. Not only is Mew getting me the right berries, my pokemon are now being flooded with energy rather than sapped of it, and I'm even getting tons of candies too. I keep a Kirlia on the field partly because of her Helping Bonus, but mostly just because I'm stocking up on Ralts candies.
Part of me is hoping some events will omit Lakeside soon. I'm at 79% styles seen, and need 28 more to get to the next rank and they're not coming easy.
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Currently at 5/9 ET crits so far
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At the rate of 1 shiny per month, that could be a very long goal. When you unlock Expert Greengrass, there's an additional shiny chance there, by which point you may already have the silver badge for 40 captures. And gold is at 100. Luckily, it's all supposed to stack.
I already have a level 65 Gardevoir and tons of leftover candies. Since Kirlia tends to be pretty common on Lapis, you'll end up with a lot of candies that way too.
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>>59147875
The only way you're going to get increased research material from Expert is if your other islands already cap out their spawns and fail to distribute Drowsy Power effectively. I have a feeling past M20, there's some kind of fall off or something that basically stops the game from spawning only 3*+ or fully evolved Pokemon... or maybe the change in spawns are just less drastic than the buildup to that point. But given an equal score, chances are your other islands will have rarer Pokemon and rarer sleep styles in comparison, either matching or beating the Expert bonus for research materials.
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>a natural Latias spawn
Well, that's a first. It ate 4 special biscuits without any crits, so I guess that evens out the cost of exchanging for an incense...
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>>59152461
I just had dinner fail at +70% (80% or 1/5 failure rate), shit happens.
Remember it's an additional percentage over a 10% base chance.
Tasty Chance S increases cap at +70% because Sunday has +20%, making 100% extra tasty meals possible on Sundays only.
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>>59150671
I expected it to be a challenge, but I don't think I really appreciated how rough of a shiny hunt it was going to be. Kinda surprising that one of the tougher shiny hunts is in a game all about getting good rest.
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>>59152995
Yeah, it's the worst when you try to tasty max a Sunday yet turn up empty handed, and all your stacked chances are burned off on Monday.
And then, you somehow get a full odds tasty breakfast or something.
My cooking has gotten tricky this week, Heracross and Vaporeon together with a Walrein have gotten too good at getting lots of ingredients, but too much of the same few and too few one important ones.
I had to bench Heracross and Dedenne because I can't even raise my tasty chance again until the next crit happens.
Upside is 4/5 odds my Overgrow Avocado Gratin breakfast is gonna be huge. I just wish that dish didn't need 41 fucking milk.
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>>59153645
Since it's tied to real time on top of being only one per day (generally), it really stretches things out. Technically you can be doing 2 sleep sessions per day, but that can really negatively impact your progression since you need to be above a certain threshold to find rarer styles/Pokemon. You'll also only have a daily biscuit for your first sleep of the day, but that doesn't really matter for shinies because it only takes a Poke Biscuit anyways.
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>ANOTHER natural spawn
This is certainly a first. Unless they drastically increased the spawn boost this time, I've never even had a Legendary show up without an incense during the actual event.
>>59155987
During the day, you just tap on your Pokemon every several hours, but at night it really is just sleeping. You get more to do during the day as you progress and get more Pokemon and abilities, but that's essentially all there is. The most exciting part is really just waking up to see what spawned for the day.
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>>59156808
I haven't seen a single one yet.
>>59155987
read the instructions.
>go to sleep
>wake up
>give pokemon biscuits until they become your friend
>assemble a team
>feed them three times a day
>repeat
You'll learn about ingredients, berries, candy, natures, types, skills, subskills, incense, and other items as you go.
Make sure you add 50 friends.
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>>59155987
Like the other anon says, you'll figure out team building.
Pokémon fall into one of three roles; berry gathering, ingredient gathering, and skill usage.
Each contribute to strengthening your Snorlax in different ways; a stronger Snorlax together with your measured sleep score, results in Drowsy Power.
Higher Drowsy Power lets you discover rarer sleep styles and Pokémon, and the goal of the game is to complete your Sleep Dex.
Better sleep styles yield more resources; candy, dream shards, and research EXP, that in turn allow you to build stronger teams by powering them up (similar to Pokémon Go's candy and stardust system).
That is the basic gameplay loop.
There's two things I recommend to new players:
1. Get an "Energy for Everyone S" healer ASAP; it's the pillar of most teams for most of the game; early options include Wigglytuff and Sylveon (evolve them from Igglybuff or Eevee)
2. Don't use your premium trial ASAP; it's better to save it for when you've saved up enough sleep points to spend in two separate months.
The strategy is to use your two week premium trial near the end of the month so you can access two stocks of the premium exchange, and get two main skill seeds (and other useful items like biscuits).
You need these specifically for that Energy for Everyone S helper, to prevent your Pokémon from getting tired during the day, which causes a sharp drop in Snorlax strength gains if left unchecked.
It's better to evolve them from their earliest stages because evolution grants +1 main skill level.
That's the free to play strategy, if you decide to go premium, I personally find it pretty worthwhile for the relatively low daily cost.
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Well, surprisingly I'm actually on track to reach master 20 this week at AC on salads, but it would require me getting at least 2x crits today and tomorrow, and 3x crits on sunday. I don't have the tasty chance mons to guarantee every Sunday crit, however next week I'll have both my holiday spheal and my dedenne at full power with an extra 5% area bonus. Hopefully I can roll curries and have my crustle carry
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22x2 energy and 7x2 helps certainly sounds good, but almost half of the helping power will come from Latios. The bonus also increases with skill level, so you can't just leave Latias uninvested. 4x2 helps is quite underwhelming as even an optimized skill trigger rate isn't very high for Latias, maybe like 5-6 times per day.
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Finally got a really good Ralts worth replacing my aging sylveon with. HB, STM, HSM with seed and Skill boosting nature is fantastic.
and its female
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>>59158514
So Latias' Heal Pulse is equivalent to Energizing Cheer S except split across two Pokémon, but unsupported is slightly less effective than an unsplit Extra Helpful S.
It's yet to be seen what Latios' main skill does or how its team composition performs, but it's assumed to be pretty good. Latias' energizing cheer targeting two Pokémon also makes it more efficient and reliable at energy recovery provided the "favors least energetic Pokémon" factor works as desired.
A mono-dragon team of Latias, Latios, Salamence, Dragonite, and Noivern should be fully sustainable thanks to that, and Latias may potentially become preferable / superior to Shuckle for Amber Canyon.
Shuckle is also slow AF and relies on high main skill chance, and doesn't benefit much from Berry Finding S due to weak bug berries. A BFS Latias by comparison with a greater helper speed and the strongest dragon berries, will really benefit from it and any self-activations.
>>59158575
That's a phenomenal Ralts, congrats anon.
Inventory Up at 75 will help it perform even better too.
Long term you'll still want your Sylveon, for Cyan Beach and for expert greengrass visits with fairy berries.
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>>59158754
For further reference, with same BFS + HSM + STM + SKL^/ING v build, Raikou/Suicune/Entei do about 3 activations per day. Just by themselves at max skill level, they'll do 5 helps per activation per member for a total of individual 75 helps. If the team is mono-type, that boosts it to almost 200 added helps per day.
Granted they're very different skills, but Latias will do about 5 activations per day, resulting in 40 individual helps, plus 22x10 energy distributed randomly. With Latios, the number of individual helps only increases to 70, but admittedly much easier to achieve and less taxing than fielding a mono-type team.
Also in terms of individual helping power, Latias is about even with the dogs, having stronger berry power, but weaker overall ingredient totals. We can actually compare against Gallade too; Gallade has an additional skill level, but is capable of putting out around 80 helps just by itself (of course without any energy recovery).
>>59158575
Nice, grats. Depending how strong your Sylveon is, chances are Gardevoir could outperform it even with the speed nerf on Expert (in terms of energy recovery).
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So out of curiosity, what are your Latias Down sample gains looking like?
I went Expert Greengrass this week, and by Saturday morning I've reached Master 7 with 4m strength and earned 807 samples (spent 380 on three incense + one biscuit).
I've had two Latias incense spawns and managed to befriend it in two encounters, with a 1 star and 2 star sleep style. I got lucky with the 2 star encounter since M7 is the bare minimum to see it.
You need M16 to see 3 star at GGEX so that's out of the question, and I need to go to regular Greengrass next week to try for 3 star Latias sleep.
My reasoning for GGEX was to try and maximise Latias Down gains, but I'm curious how it compares to regular GG, or maybe even LL or AC.
Next week gives skill specialists +1 to berry gains and +5 to main skill levels, so I'm incentivized to go GG next week and reroll until I get water or fire berries for my Suicune or Entei teams (strongly preferably my BFS Suicune).
My GGEX PB is 7 million though, I might approach that today but all of the extra tasty cooking I've pulled off might not compare to sheer Helper Boost berry farming. I also didn't get a great berry roll, I made do with Ice / Poison / Fairy so I could at least run my Walrein and Wigglytuff. A bunch of my team picks this week happen to have Helping Bonus that helps neutralise the expert helping speed penalty.
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Its gonna be my new healer for sure, my sylveon I've basically used since starting in july 2024, it just had STM and skill nature, which was ok, but nice to finally retire it and let him rest after 4915 hours.
>>59160319
I've been on lapis, I'm at m19 with 4 meals to go (using a ticket to be fair), and I've currently got 578 down in reserve, bought maybe 3 incense and a biscuit?
I've got terrible island boosts on GGEX and amber, so Lapis was the obvious place for me.
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For whatever reason. Gardevoir is worth less dream shards, but gets more Latias Down than Meowscarda.
>>59160319
I'm on Lapis and I'm only at... 634 Down gained with just the "use 7 incenses" mission left to claim. I'm currently at 3.1m in a relatively normal week so far; no boosts or prep.
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>>59161072
Yes, most of the time with these legendary events you can end up having a leftover incense.
The idea is to hold onto it for when you have a best chance of getting a missing 3 star sleep style, like on a Good Sleep Day with very high drowsy power. Make sure to actually check the map, rank and strength requirements for the sleep style you need when doing this.
If you don't need the sleep style, another popular thing is to use the incense together with an event that boosts dream shard gains, and a luck incense for loads of dream shards.
Or similarly for research EXP.
Or maybe you just, need to befriend another legendary because you haven't found a good one yet.
That's my situation with Cresselia, and at some point I'll use my leftover Cresselia incense with a friend incense on a New Moon day where the chance of successfully befriending it will be better.
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>>59161211
It sounds like Lapis Lakeside could be just as good, if not better then GGEX depending on how well you're performing.
Honestly I might've kneecapped myself with GGEX instead of going to GG or LL, because I wanted to learn into skill specialists.
I'm still leaning towards GG because of my BFS Suicune team, and boosted Heracross / Dedenne procs.
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>>59161655
Yeah, I guess I go back to Lapis next week, even if there's only like one boosted spawn I'm looking for now.
Afterwards really need to get my Amber/GGEX boosts up, so I can go to them for events if I need to.
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Debating where to go next week. I'm looking for dedenne but it's eluding me. I did ggex and have hit master 3. I think I will forego cooking tomorrow and just build up my ingredients and a berry burst for Monday, but the question is where.
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>>59164107
Each morning, you'll wake up to some pokemon around your camp. Whenever you fill the hunger bar on one of them, you catch it.
The bar is shared between that pokemon species, so if you feed a pikachu a biscuit and don't catch it, the next one you see will have that progress (doesn't matter if its another pikachu on the same morning, or one the next morning)
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>>59164107
Yeah, friendship progress continues between sleep sessions like the other anons said.
Importantly, only the first two biscuit feedings are guaranteed. Upon the second feeding, it's 50/50 each time if it will still be hungry or get full.
Due to how that works, it can frequently be preferable to give 5-pip Pokémon one single Poké Biscuit, so they're at 1/5 points on the next encounter.
This is because you have limited biscuits to go around with only one daily bonus biscuit. Some mornings will have a better selection of potential recruits, others will be duds, but having more Pokémon sitting at 1/5 is better for securing new Pokémon with either:
>One premium bonus biscuit (+4)
>One bonus biscuit (+3) and one regular biscuit (+1)
>One regular biscuit if hungry (+3), followed by another (+1)
A similar strategy applies to 16 pip Pokémon for premium players, getting it to 4/16 or maybe 8/16 means you've better odds of befriending it if it shows up hungry the next time.
Spread out how frequently you spend sleep points on biscuits so you don't run out, sleep points are needed for important things like main skill seeds too if you play premium.
A lot of the later additions as the game has progressed in the past two (nearly three) years have been heavily skill focused, and every legendary Pokémon has been a skill specialist (and mythicals are "all" specialists).
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Ended up seeing the 3* latias last night and WOW that's a lot of shards
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Eh...
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So that was a wild morning
>5 hungry, none of them Latias (2nd time this week)
>Two shinies; Ralts and Minun
>Latias went from 0 to 30 taking a premium bonus biscuit, dragon biscuit, and 4 great biscuits just to mega hit on the last biscuit
>Befriended 5 Pokémon including the Noibat and Toxel
>All trash
The Minun has maximum ingredient finding rate and is mono-honey, which is amusing but not going to achieve anything.
At least I have a shiny MInun to go with my shiny Plusle now?
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well, probably not gonna find a better latias. A BFS would be fantastic, but for just skill triggers this seems a fantastic roll. xp down is a bit rough I guess but I really shouldn't complain
>>59166428
they generally are really hard to roll good ones, are huge investments, and are generally niche. The dogs are good for berry bombing, cress seems ok, and latias is looking pretty average until we find out what latios does.
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>>59163656
If you want a Dedenne, Lapis is probably your best choice. You also won't suffer the Expert speed penalty, so it should be an easier go around.
I think I might try Expert just because I already did Lapis this week. So provided I get a 3* Latias tomorrow, I won't have to try too hard for it in the coming week. Not to mention we get a 1.5x bonus next Sunday, which should help for at least some decent payoff of the week no matter how tough it might get.
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All my hungry procs this week have gone to Swablus which I already have 2 fantastic versions of now, and Meowths...
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Guess I'm sitting at M19 on Lapis without any stronger boosts. Any cooking boost easily would have bridged the gap.
>>59166428
Legendaries are long shot rolls, but they are the strongest possible additions to their intended teams. Like the dogs aren't the strongest by themselves, but they'll continue to scale both with level and any further additions to those types. Just imagine a dog team with fewer "fillers" that are only there to fulfill the skill condition.
Cressalia too. In a Psychic team, it's the strongest possible contributor, scales well, and will continue to scale well as level caps and more Psychic types are introduced. And even with the upside that its team members don't necessarily need to be berry or ingredient types to contribute to the skill.
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>>59167663
Just take it to mean that you'll get some expedited progress really early in the game. You'll just see more Pokemon than usual and get more rewards than usual, but other than that, it doesn't really change what you've been doing. The only thing is that you might start to encounter more Pokemon during your research that are already evolved. You don't need to worry about trying to capture them since you'd just be using up extra resources, so just focus on the first stage Pokemon to help build your team.
This boost is actually a lot bigger than its been previously. I think past events have only given like a ~120k power boost.
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>>59167904
I'm not sure how many Latias Down (event resources) you'll be able to get since you just started, but you might as well try catching one. If you do, it'll probably be the strongest thing on your team for a while. Or at the very least, you'll get a lot of progress on one in case you see it again later on.
Since you probably don't have much Down, it will probably be better for you to just save up as much as you can and exchange them on Saturday and Sunday night for the Incense and Biscuits. Ideally, you use the incense to summon one, then feed it at least 2, if not more, of the special Latias Biscuits. There's a chance it will get full after 2 biscuits (same for all Pokemon), so try to plan on at least 2 days to use incenses. And since you can use 2 incenses per night (but only 1 can be a Pokemon Incense), it's also a good idea to also use a Friend Incense if you have one. The odds are kinda low since it's random, but on the off chance it affects the Latias, that could be a lot of points and biscuits saved.
Since you can access the exchange shop during feeding time, you don't really need to exchange for the special Latias biscuits ahead of time.
The exchange shop is also open a couple days after the event ends, so don't worry about having to use up all your Down by Sunday.
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>>59167027
My spawns this morning were dire.
A hungry Meowth and a hungry Eevee, nothing that interesting besides my 2 star Latias that got full after 13 pips.
My Greengrass roll this week is perfect; Ground / Bug / Electric.
My OGPP team is already full BFS and level 62-65, so I'm gonna ride on berry strength all week with more extra tasty meals.
Pawmot and Dedenne are gonna be gathering 3x berries, Heracross will be 2x berries, thanks to this week's +1 berries on skill specialists.
Already at Master 8 after breakfast, thanks to the huge starting boost Snorlax gets. Funnily enough that automatically completes a number of strength based missions at GG.
I wonder if that means you get more mission rewards if you reroll greengrass?
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>>59167963
The recommendation is to save your legendary incense for later in the week, because your increased Snorlax strength and rank with higher drowsy power, improves your chances of finding the rarer, more valuable sleep styles.
Better sleep styles reward more dream shards, candies, and research EXP; also for this event more Latias Down samples. There will be future events with "Event Exchanges" too, they're not limited to legendary Pokémon events.
Importantly, this week we have the New Moon event.
Every month for three days you get three sleep research sessions of Pokémon that won't get full as easily.
Use your Latias incense on either Thursday 16th, Friday 17th, or Saturday 18th, and your Latias encounter on the following morning will be easier to befriend because you can force feed it more biscuits.
Also very importantly, the final day of the Latias event (Sunday 19th) has 1.5x Drowsy Power, which will make it even easier to find Latias' rarest sleep styles.
I'm trying to get Latias' 3 star sleep this week. On Greengrass Isle, the requirement for that is reaching Master 19, which requires 2.6 million strength. I'm a long term player and can reach that pretty easily now, but newer players will struggle to reach that goal.
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Survived long enough to get here.
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>>59168505
fug I forgot the pic like a retard
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>>59168509
It'll do fine, the first few weeks of the game hardly matter at all and you'll struggle cook.
You have three skill specialists, this week they'll have bonus main skill levels when their skills activate, that'll let you see their full potential (before evolving anyway).
Next week they'll be back to their normal main skill levels which'll either be level 1, or maybe level 2 or 3 if they have the "Skill Level Up" silver or gold subskill.
Getting a shiny Igglybuff this early on is also very nice.
Helping Speed M is a universally good subskill and is a direct big upgrade on all Pokémon.
Since Riolu is a skill specialist, it will also benefit from Skill Trigger subskills. Its role is to generate Dream Shards that you need to power up Pokémon, or expand your cooking pot size.
Larvitar is an ingredient specialist, so it wants Ingredient Finder subskills. For ingredient specialists, you want to pay attention to what ingredients they unlock at level 30 and 60.
These two subskills are only useful on their matching specialities; Skill Trigger on a berry or ingredient specialist usually has a negligible effect that isn't work investing in.
If you find a Pokémon with the gold subskill "Berry Finding S" or "Helping Bonus", that's one of the very best and usually worth keeping, at least this early on.
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>>59168663
Oh yeah make sure you pay attention to that in the morning lol
People have missed shinies because they didn't see the sparkle animation, and there's no shiny icon shown anywhere in the game.
Shiny Pokémon are always hungry and always a guaranteed friendship with any biscuit, so throw them a regular biscuit whenever you find one.
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Well, not looking forward to trying to level this thing to 75 but I literally could not ask for a better shuckle
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>>59168807
Wrong pic fuck, that was my first shitty latias I encountered.
THIS is the shuckle.
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Still got a crit, but 3 points went "wasted" and it used up my cheap biscuits. Dunno if I'll have enough to points to really try for another.
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>>59168812
Literal perfection once it hits 75, moreso than the shiny one I got.
Shuckle relies on Skill Trigger more than Helping Speed so this works well.
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unironi detained for past 5 days which is why i didnt play. got 3 slots open. i dont expect you to play more than once a week and i never go this long without playing unless something out of my control happens.
7830-3857-1731
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>>59169191
it was a bad experience to put it mildly. just know psych wards are predatory and modern medicine is about exploiting the weak for profit. wouldnt surprise me if hospitals work with the judges to make 48 hour stays last a lot longer via technicalities just to break patients down more.
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Ironic considering I just left Lapis to go Expert. Sadly no Sceptile to really take advantage of the event, but I can work with this. Finally get a chance to use my Toxtricity, even if I had to pump 670 candies into it this morning.
>>59169495
Shit man, sorry to hear that
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I would need 1,250 Down in order to secure:
5x Latias Biscuit
2x Latias Incense (discounted)
1x Latias Incense (standard)
1x Main Skill Seed
Yep, I'd need quite a bit of luck to get another and still have my leftover incense for after the event, plus the Main Skill Seed. At an average of 100 Down per day, I think it's actually possible if I also end up buying one of the biscuit packs.
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Did they hidden nerf Main Skill buff this week?
All my Pokémon went crazy last week. Now my 2 Dedenne only proc'd once 12 hours ago, and my god-tier Pawm only proc'd 5 times compared to the 10-15 times it usually did last week.
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>>59170897
It felt like that this morning, but it's always on and off. Like last week my Meganium was triggering like 6-8 times a day. Today it only triggered maybe once or twice and it's not even part of the event.
I wish I had rolled Dark so I could run Darkrai and see how it'd do.
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happy 1000 days day to those who celebrate
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>>59170491
It's pretty likely you can earn 80+ samples a day, 100+ if you're using a daily Latias incense.
I looked at my stock and realised I can use a Latias incense every day from Tuesday, and then keep one spare Latias incense for the future.
That comes at the expense of not getting every last biscuit though. I currently have 589 samples with 100 pending from missions. The 6 remaining incense will cost 870 samples, whilst I can get 1250 samples worth of biscuits if I need them.
It's better for me to try and roll hungry Latias using friend incense, GCT, and event bonus for a minimum 3/10 chance (though it's failed me every time so far).
My last Latias encounter got to 13/30 pips, if I get a hungry encounter I can guarantee befriending it next time (3x6 + 1), if not a two-encounter friendship can be guaranteed using 4+3, and then 4+6.
>>59170897
My Pawmot had a terrible time yesterday, and I had to add in my Shuckle and use some berry juice to fix the situation.
After that though Pawmot has been doing fine, and my Heracross and Dedenne aren't struggling.
It's just luck though, sometimes skill specialists can struggle for a bit.
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>>59171746
>My Pawmot had a terrible time yesterday, and I had to add in my Shuckle and use some berry juice to fix the situation.
Shit's happened again.
My extra tasty chance hit +65%, so I swapped out my Dedenne.
Once it hits 70%, Heracross' Bulk Up won't trigger so you can't get the ingredients.
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>>59170491
>went to Expert and only got 50 Down on my first night
Eh, maybe it's not possible for me since I chose Expert. Unless it really ramps up later in the week, I probably won't hit that threshold. I wasn't very lucky with hungry/crits for my past 2 Latias, so I wasn't given too many breaks in my spending. I did however manage 2 natural spawns somehow, but that's the difference between and incense and 2 biscuits...
I think by Friday of last week, I was basically capping out with mostly 3* styles on Lapis. Maybe the 1.5x on Sunday can give me a big payout.
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I'm surprised how few other Pokemon I've caught this and the past week so far. Even if there are some OK options in the diamond shop too, I haven't been using that many biscuits in the first place. Usually I'm pretty stained on my monthly biscuit allotment too, but I've got a decent buffer still.
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man if only it had 1 skill trigger sub or nature
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This makes more sense, both thematically and functionally, but it continues to bring up questions about further Mythicals being added.
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>>59173537
I feel like Noivern needs a lot more than just BFS especially since it wants its skill maxed. BFS + full speed can actually compete with a skill-focused BFS build, but all sets still want those Main Skill Seeds.
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I dreamt that I woke up to find my snorlax hadn’t gone to sleep because it sneakily levelled up but what was odd was my phone didn’t overheat like normal. I accepted I just wouldn’t have a high sleep score, although I used a latias incense so at least that spawn was still guaranteed
Woke up for real still unsure how long snorlax had been asleep but turns out it was fine
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>>59173706
Eureka seeds being a per-mythical resource is the tricky part, because any future mythicals would make powering up the next mythical more difficult as they fight for special appearances.
The way they handled the New Moon event this month was a massive fuck you to Darkrai, with nobody having any reason to go to Snowdrop Tundra, and by extension nobody will get any Eureka Seed progress, or even any Darkrai candy through research letters.
I wonder if they might make future mythicals occur around times of the year? Like Shaymin being a spring time Pokémon. They would have to abandon per-mythical seeds if you can only encounter Shaymin maybe three times a year, and rethink how you befriend them if you have so few chances and then make you wait an entire year for another chance.
Darkrai and Mew had entire events structured around getting your first and only one, and then they enter regular rotation where late-comers get their chance to befriend it. Future Mythicals will probably be like that.
>>59173920
I seem to recall someone claiming BFS is enough for Noivern to be very good, but you need to invest main skill seeds no matter what.
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>>59174252
Making them to a seasonal rotation would be way too harsh. Since they're separate species, you'd have to complete their friendship progress with only 3 appearances in an entire year.
The simplest method would be to add Mythicals to the normal pool, but still guarantee them during Full/New Moon events. It'd be up to RNG, but they would technically all be available. It's not like Legendary Pokemon are much better in terms of being able to actually encounter them, but we've kind of just put up with the fact that you won't see them without incenses.
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which pokemon would be the best for me to use right now? That's pretty much all I have
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>>59175259
Given the ongoing event, Skill specialists are being given a LOT of extra power, so you probably want to be using those. Right now they pick up an extra ingredient whenever they get ingredients, an extra berry whenever they pick up berries, and are getting +5 to their main skill whenever it activates.
In terms of power and priority on your team, I think you'd want:
Mareep, Psyduck, Pawmi (or Igglybuff), Riolu, and Pikachu, probably. The last two you could easily swap out for anything, like if your favorite berries match something else.
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>>59175259
Damn, honestly bust out mareep, Psyduck, eevee and your choice of igglibuff or pawmie. Eevee will probably be enough to make ingredients non stop for you this event, just not the ones you need for dishes. Might also consider running Growlithe and Riolu
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Not the first ground type I would expect.
Also looks like it's being introduced during a cooking event, so there's a good chance it's an Ingredient type that can get Pumpkins. There's also a slight possibility it's a skill type with Ingredient Draw instead.
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>>59176711
Guessing that's from Mew's metronome or something?
You don't need to fill the cooking pot every time; filler ingredients only contribute a small amount of strength that is only boosted by your area bonus (and final dish strength multipliers during events).
Recipe levels only boost the strength of the required ingredients, so it's more important that you're able to make recipes consistently.
Meaning if you can't spare the ingredients you shouldn't use them as filler.
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>>59176711
Mine activated Moonlight and gave itself 44 energy...
I thought Mew would actually be pretty useful this week since it could proc some strong power skills, but it seems like they would be few and far between. It wouldn't necessarily need the EXP levels since it's not relying on berry power as much, but Metronome is more for fun than it is strong.
On a side note, I only got 50 Down from research last night. It's so over...
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>>59176446
After looking at the Pokedex for ground types, there are actually deceptively few, either mono or primary. Even among the primary ground types, probably half of those would better represent the opposite half of their type in this game.
That pretty much leaves: Donphan, Hippowdon, Mudsdale, Sandaconda, and... Stunfisk?
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>>59178101
Interesting...>>59176446
Siick i love sandslash
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>never got a usable dog or cress
>two great latias
no bfs but why couldn't I use this luck elsewhere
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>>59179011
Yeah both BFS, and both level 65 now.
The first one I've had since the first year, but I've had them both for two years already.
The first one has ironically been a good ingredient farmer for a while and helped make a lot of dishes possible when I was still running it in lieu of proper berry specialists. A level 50-60 something that doesn't gather favorite berries, can still be somewhat good compared against a level 30 berry specialists that does gather favorite berries.
Especially when Raichu is as fast as it is.
That's never the case any longer and I only run Raichu when I need electric berries now.
Have reached 3.4m (M20) at Greengrass by Thursday bedtime so that's pretty cool. I might find 3 star Latias sleep now.
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Bad week for a master 20 attempt, only 5/11 dishes have gone ET, currently sitting at 4.5m at AC before cooking Thursday dinner (at 50% ET, have failed 50, 60 and 70% this week)
I need to average 50% crit rate until Sunday and then hit all 3 meals Sunday if I wanna have a shot at m20 this week, otherwise I'll have to break the bank for some whistles which I REALLY don't wanna do, or wait until salad week and run it back then
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Well, I guess that's what a Plus/Minus activation looks like. They do a little electro ball above their head as it activates.
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>>59181293
Everybody's first latias( and other legends/mythicals) are the same in terms of skills and nature, which is to say pretty bloody mediocre, and being a sklll mon it needs main skill seed investment on a good skillset to be good.
Latias has the additional problem of needing latios (who we know nothing about) to be better, so is even harder to want to invest in.
If you are a completely new player she might be ok to use if you have nothing better, but until we see latios she's absolutely not worth huge investment.
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What's the one website to see if you should keep trying? 4th attempt
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>>59182277
raenon or neroli in the OP.
raenon has the percentile "grader", but that's not a very informative metric.
Yours is definitely usable, but Latias isn't particularly strong at the moment. It will get better once Latios shows up, but then you'll have to judge them together. I think ideally since Latias has Extra Helpful procs built into it, BFS becomes pretty important.