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Whos making it to OU?
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>>59170006
>Seering Shot
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>>59170107
>Ground
How the fuck is that OU. Shit typing, shit ability, shit stat distribution, and shit signature move
>Regirock
Rock Solid and Accelrock aren't getting his fat ass out of UU
>Registeel
Literally RI fodder
>Regice
Ok this is the only one I'll meet you one. Flame Orb + Ice Scales + Purify would make this thing an insane special wall.
However I think you greatly underestimate how broken Regipsy is with 200 special attack and lumina crash.
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>>59170859
>Shit typing, shit ability, shit stat distribution, and shit signature move
what the fuck are you talking about? It's lando-t/great tusk + archaludon (seriously nigger stamina is a damned good ability) + oh nooo its new signature move isn't overwhelmingly busted it's uselessss no nigger. It genuinely has a bit of utility too cus it can avoid the grassy terrain earthquake nerf with it lmao.
Imagine not running that 252hp/252spdef/4atk and using it as a supremely powerful wallbreaker and pivot. Retard. Its movepool would have to be entirely barren for it to not see use.
Didn't read the rest because you said some dumb shit right out the gate.
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>>59170006
>Regiflex
UUBL. Great Choice Scarf/Choice Band Pokemon, but has glaring shortcomings in bulk and speed compared to Great Tusk and Zamazenta, who are also good utility Pokemon and are less one-dimensional. It does too much damage to UU checks to stay in the tier though.
>Regiaer
Ubers.
>Regirot
Ubers? It has Corrosion and Mortal Spin, which by themselves are automatic OU on a bulky poison type, but this isn't just bulky. It can go full physically defensive and nothing is killing it. Similar physical bulk to Alomomola and similar special bulk to Blissey all at once. Fucking crazy on a Pokemon with vastly more resists than both.
The only way it can possibly fall into OU is if it didn't learn Protect, but every current Regi does. Just give it Leftovers.
>Regicrust
UU because of sand. It's good but has the same problem as the other Regis such as lacking recovery and ways to boost speed. It's better than most Regis though, because it has a good ability and a not-ass defensive typing with incredible 150 base attack STAB earthquakes they also don't have.
>Regihive
OU.
>Regibones
PU.
>Regilava
NU? It's very defensively gifted with the mono typing and ability but you need some SpA investment to hit back hard, which means less hp and defense investment...
>Regirapids
Ubers. What psychopath devised this thing... Water Bubble boosted Surging Strikes with 150 base speed what a fucking asshole. Lol. Rain makes it even worse. AG if it had any more attack.
>Regioak
UUBL Weavile and Ceruledge victim. Priority Jungle Healing is OU coded though.
>Regipsy
UU.
>Regivile
NU.
>Regifairy
OU. Budget Xerneas with vastly better bulk but shit speed.
Shocked at how good most of these are, desu
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I AM BORN TO KILL GOD
FATHER, BE PROUD
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>>59170210
It's totally a non-meme modernization of Blissey. Fairy Aura boosts damage too so it's not exactly passive. OU just so happens to have a couple answers to it but it's easily permanent staple status in the tier.
>>59171369
I audibly laughed when I ran the calcs on Water Bubble boosted Surging Strikes.
Wow. Just wow.
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>>59171699
i think if Regirot had recover it would be meta defining
What about sand makes Regicrust so good?
Is regirapids really that good? Base 80 attack relative to urshifu seems pretty weak.
Also i think you're underestimating regioak. Priority leech horn, giga drain, leech seed, and strength Sap are huge.
Also what are your thoughts on the buffed original 3 Regis?
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>>59172317
>Is regirapids really that good? Base 80 attack relative to urshifu seems pretty weak.
Water Bubble is effectively Huge Power for Water moves. 80 base attack is significantly higher than every non-mega Huge Power user, and this thing can hold a Choice Band and will pretty much always go first because of its ridiculous speed tier. Plus it’s using an effectively 112 base power STAB move that bypasses Sturdy and Focus Sash, ignores attack drops and defense boosts, and can be boosted even more with rain, and the thing also can’t be burned. It’s basically Dracovish 2.0.
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>>59172357
Kind of a similar story for Regiaer too. The special attack stat hardly matters when it's using an effective 164 base power Choice Specs-boosted STAB move that nothing is immune to and it will never be outsped. Nearly everything in the game gets 2HKO'd, including mons that resist Flying like Kingambit and Gholdengo and dedicated special walls like Clodsire and Assault Vest Alomomola.
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>>59172317
>What about sand makes Regicrust so good?
In a Sandstorm it becomes a reliable tank and stealth rock setter because of the special defense increase.
It's already better than Regirock because of the defensive benefits of Ground type and incredible attack power. It gets a free switch in to electric types to set up rocks, or hit something extremely hard on the switch with STAB Earthquakes. It just relies heavily on the opposing team's defensive flying types to be dead, but even if they aren't... 150 base attack says hello.
It may not seem like much in a vacuum, but it is very decent in practice because you force so many switches with something that is also a hazard setter.
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>>59170859
Regicrust would be a very strong Stamina user desu. Not many weaknesses to look out for, and it can leverage that super high attack stat to force switches and get a free Amnesia or two. With Curse it would also be deadly because it won't need more than one attack boost to sweep. It can use Rest or Leftovers for recovery which will will actually be viable because it's not weak to basic shit.
Easily one of the hardest hitting stealth rocks setters too.
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>>59173144
Regiflex is good but doesn't OHKO 'everything' after a Fillet Away even with Adamant Life orb damage, so it's easily revenge killed. A lot of things either quad resist, have priority, or are bulky and just resist on top of it. In a lot of calcs it does a shitton of damage, then gets KOed back because of the halfed hp from Fillet Away.
Clefable, Galar Weezing, and Moltres can all switch right in and KO it at +2 attack. Iron Valiant with booster energy is faster and can OHKO it, Raging Bolt can thunderclap it to death instantly because of priority.
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>>59174165
Ground should have got something from sand. Not the spdef buff, but something else. It's stupid that sand is associated with ground for every single move, ability, and sand themed pokemon except for sandstorm and they don't get anything from it because of that unless they have sand veil/rush
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>>59174742
>252+ Atk Choice Band Water Bubble Regirapids Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo in Rain on a critical hit: 216-255 (42.8 - 50.5%) -- 46.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
Dondozo can't switch in on it if rain is up.
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>>59175988
Two things. First, Araquanid needs to hold a defensive item because it’s so slow, whereas Regirapids can hold a Choice Band because it has 150 base speed. Second, Surging Strikes is actually significantly stronger than Liquidation because of the guaranteed critical hit.
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it squeaks when it walks
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>>59177299
>>59177310
maybe i'm just retarded but I don't get it.
Urshifu is 1.63x stronger than Regirapids, but the output of the surging strikes is just if urshifu had a 160 attack stat if i'm understanding right?
252+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola on a critical hit: 126-150 (23.5 - 28%) -- 96.2% chance to 4HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Water Bubble Regice Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola on a critical hit: 183-216 (34.2 - 40.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
How is this so bad when there are tons of megas and ubers with higher attack than this?
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>>59178984
Alo can't exactly do anything back so it's not a great counter or check when it's getting 3HKOed guaranteed. In rain it's a guaranteed 2HKO. Dondozo can't hurt it either really
The biggest issue besides it hitting like Deoxys-A is that Regirapids has 150 base hp unlike Deoxys. It can survive a resisted hit all day. Neutral special hits it can even tank outright.
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>the canon Regis are Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Regieleki, and Regidrago
>fanon slop mon are shit like Regihive, Regibones, and Regilava
Read the fucking naming conventions you dipshits. It should be Regibug, Regighost, and Regifire.