>>59178220
Emboar is an outlier, it’s mega was intentionally sabotaged to punish Masuda. The general rule is megas are for shillmons, regional forms are for Pokémon game freak doesn’t care about. Thats that Charizard got megas but no regionals

>>59178220
PFFFFTAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAA

>regional replacement
Where did this meme come from anyway? It makes no fucking sense

>>59178220
FLOPboar

>>59178253
We had a schizo for years that really specifically hated Typhlosion, Samurott and Decidueye for whatever reason - would constantly force starterwars with them and write essays on how they "flopped" and "gamefreak wanted them to fail" and what not. You can guess what happened after PLA chose those exact 3 mons to get regional variants.

>>59178253
You can’t use pokemon of the same species in comp and regional forms are generally better than their original counterparts in every single ways so there’s never a reason to use the original over the replacement.

>>59178264
I found him
>>59178280

>>59178307
>no argument, just call everyone who state facts he doesn't like his imaginary boogeyman
try using both arcanines in the same team in vgc then kiddo

>>59178280
Ive never seen a Ninetales or a Decidueye fan be upset that Ninetales but blue and Decidueye but orange are on paper more playable in comp (in reality all 4 kinda suck ass lol).
Cross-gen evos are the actual replacements both in lore and in gameplay. If you prefer the preevo you have to pray it’s good with Eviolite or else you’re throwing.

>>59178220
>both flops

>>59178331
how do I use charizard, charizard x, charizard y and gigantamax charizard on the same team I can't live without a full team of zards

>>59178307
That anon is just stating facts, and actually makes a good argument. The schizo anon is much more rambling and whiny

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>>59178347
>two brief sentences
>rambling

>>59178280
>>59178347
hi kujo

>>59178334
I've had a lot of my favourites get regionals, megas, crossgens and even a Paradox and in pretty much every case I like the regionals far more. Was actually really hoping for a regional Chesnaught since that'd round out my 3 favourite starters with regionals so I was pretty disappointed it got a mega even though it's by far one of the better designs. Really don't like the cross-gen evo stuff though, yea - it's just kinda the worst of all worlds.
Worst case is Linoone getting outright retconned as the "original", but at least it's still got its gameplay niche secured for funny gimmick teams.

>>59178356
I wasn’t explicitly saying that >>59178280
wasn’t the schizo

>>59178237
>ESL

>>59178393
>I was disappointed that chesnaught desperately got the boost it needed since xy came out instead of getting a color swap that does nothing for the original
weird flex but ok

>>59178220
if Emboar didn't have a mega it would be even lower
if Typhlosion had a mega it would be a bit higher but probably not much
the point stands really

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>>59178220
MOGGED

>my shitmon is better than your shitmon
both are still shitmons though?

>>59178449
the weather mons are the real examples of how you buff a mon to make it more relevant
abilities make or break mons, so many of the new megas are dogshit because of their lackluster abilities but the funny toilet bird and turtle became meta just because gamefreak gave them the gift of nature

>>59178237
How do you explain slowbro?

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>>59178253
It comes from the fact that most regionals get better typing and even a new evolution compared to their originals, making them obsolete. Just look at Unovan Basculin, for example. It's locked out of getting a cool and powerful evolution that it so desperately needed because they made a regional variant that exclusively evolves into it.

>>59178470
>still pretending white stripe basculin is a regional form
let me guess, you think female combee is a regional form too

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>>59178454
nah bro u dont get it giving raticate the dark type or giving audino +20 sp. atk and healer now they're totally meta and strength is the only thing that matters when it comes to the funny fictional critters

>>59178479
>gender = new form from multiple gens later
okay dumbass

>>59178383
It’s Kojo you mong

>>59178460
Kanto Pokémon are inherently outliers since even the most neglected Kanto pokemon is more respected by game freak than majority of anything after

>>59178237
>>59178508
how absolute is a rule if there is a whole load of outliers

>gen 5 gets a bunch of regional forms
>"ha ha look regionals are replacements gen 5 sucks no megas loool"
>gen 5 gets a bunch of megas
>well actually these are just jokes and megas are still for shillmons but only the ones that aren't gen 5 and the regionals are still all replacements except the ones from kanto because they're not unova
It always comes back to Unova derangement syndrome

>>59178513
Rule 1. Kanto above all else.
Rule 2. Popularity gets preferential treatment.
Rule 3. Personal agendas are the exception.

>>59178528
well maybe unova shouldn't have been shit then

>>59178495
>NOOOOOOO! STOP CALIING ME LIKE A DOG!
lmao ok Kujo

>>59178488
> strength is the only thing that matters
It clearly is since game freak’s favorite pokemon get the strongest buffs

>>59178470
White-striped Basculin is not a regional variant, but yeah it's weird that the red-striped and blue-striped forms get nothing.

>>59178253
Because they aren't buffs to the original mon. Ninetales is still shit, Basculin, Goodra etc. are still shit. Combined with Gamefreak deciding they would rather just draw over old mons than make new ones, and you have a lazy concept that shits on both people who liked older mons and people who want to see actual new ideas.

>>59179124
why can't people who liked older mons like the new mons that look like older mons???

>>59178220
Typhlosion could have had a mega that had the ability to act as though sun was always up rather than one that does less damage than its base form it

>>59179124
>Ninetales is still shit
>implying

>>59179555
not allowed, it would have made typhlosion overshadow charizard. can't have that.

>>59179180
cuck mentality

>>59179661
It Wouldn't
Fire types benefit from real sun +support for the paradox Mons whenever they return and of course chlorophyl mons

>>59179671
>thinking about cuckolding
ngmi

>>59178264
Blame this board for being far too easy to manipulate.
There's an unfortunate reason why /vp/ has a dedicated page on the Sharty wiki.