>>59180253
HGSS is qualityslop, fags just like the games because they're good, that's bullshit don't you think?

>>59180262
Hgss isn’t good. it’s the ds equivalent of scat and vomit: big ass regions that are empty and nothing to do. I prefer the approach of games like x and y. Cut all the postgame bullshit that sucks anyway and make the main content actually good

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>>59180253
no one likes Johto. Johtofags are the unc equivalent of the Kantoooo normie. Instead of liking the first gen they like the first 2 because they connected and shit. Which is admittedly cool but the game is just objectively bad.

>>59180253
you can do frontier right after elite four... faggot! LOL
>>59180278
no one prefers the approach of gym-rival-gym-rival-gym slop

>>59180278
That shitty bait won't work Kojo, go try and bait people with your forced "campaignshitter" buzzword on another thread.

>>59180415
"Shitmon is good because I can set up for 10 turns and sweep" is peak campaignshitter.

>>59180419
Kek

>>59180411
I prefer gym-rival-gym-rival-gym kino. We like never see anything of silver. He’s kind of pointless

>>59180419
you're a compshitter who wouldnt understand

>>59180419
And? Did you have a stroke or why did you reply to me?

>>59180253
You need to have a soul to enjoy this game. Gonna close the thread because it is one of those things you either are born with or not, theres no point to argue.

Just the following Pokemon alone are so well done and they could never replicate it again in any other game in the series.
They have such special interactions that makes the world feel truly alive, the animations are cute, and you could take pictures with them and collect leaves to make a golden crown.

Add to it Pokewalker, Pokeathlon, all the events + battle frontier + a whole new region and seeing how Kanto changed after 3 years is just absolute peak and don't get me started on the superb spritework.

But if you some kind of sperg who just gets your cock hard by playing rock paper scissors simulator and doesn't care about immersion or worldbuilding, then yea, theres other games who does this shit better I guess.

>>59180454
>Just the following Pokemon alone are so well done
How does it make sense that Slowpoke can keep up with my running speed?

>>59180454
The immersion and world building is great. Only problem is the rest of the entire game is total dog shit

>>59180454
besides autists who are physically unable to feel real joy and wonder I imagine lots of young players compare the game to todays standards with tons of QoL changes and dialogues and a find a game that has stuff like HMs and less dialogue to be weird it may sound crazy but you gotta keep in mind some people here grew up with shit like BW and onward, for them a pokemon game without some mega epic storyline with 10 different npcs and 3 different "rivals" doesnt feel like a pokemon game anymore, so the game must feel lonely to them besides the lack of QoL

>>59180454
Johto is Pokémon for people who enjoy playing Pokémon.

but it barely has any content

>>59180483
The only relevant content was already in Platinum

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>>59180454
My theory is that most shitposting against HGSS (Or Johto in general) is for jealous people who are envy Pokemon peaked there.
I'm not even trynna bait or anything, it literally did, OG games were supposed to end there, this is why you go back to Kanto check everything you did and fight "yourself" as the bonus endgame secret boss.
Other regions might have tournies at best, but none has the audacity to actually connect to the previous region and fight the previous MC. To this day Johto, and more specifically HGSS because of pokewalker and other shit, feels like the ultimate fanservice game, nothing else comes even close, so the people who weren't even born to enjoy it gotta find nitpick reasons to dismiss and say their slop tastes better lol

If it peaked there, it would have sold more.

>>59180499
The shitposting happens because Johtofags are the lolcows of the board

>>59180419
You actually fucking fell for it how are you such a retard

>>59180504
Not true because Kojo and Shaun still post to this day

>>59180523
I saved you from failing to defend Johto until bump limit again, you're welcome.

>>59180482
no its for people who pretend to and watch the anime, because it has brock and misty etc but the game sucks

>>59180570
6 months to get from azalea to goldenrod

>>59180415
>on another thread
ESL

>>59180454
this is Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver, not Animal Crossing

GSC > HGSS

>>59180527
Nigger

>>59180570
I watched very little of the anime outside the first few films and I enjoy Johto.
>because it has brock and misty
So does Kanto right early on? I don't understand how those two things are related.

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>>59180499
This argument works for GSC, which is arguably "fixed" even, if you connect via Stadium 2 you have a real endgame. HGSS has no excuse, it's worse as a campaign game than the originals.
Every HGSS argument is objectively disproven at this point.
>Cerulean Cave is added back but has lower level and worse Pokemon than Gen1/3
>Trainer House doesn't give experience anymore
>Elite Four rematches are lower than FRLG rematches
But Pidgey gets to be low level all over the region, because "authenticity" or some retarded shit.
The game is just shit. The pokewalker adds Kangashkan to the early game. Like whoopdee shit. It's just fucking bad, I'm sorry. It doesn't even run that well, it's faster than Diamond and Pearl but slower than any pre DS game.

>>59180606
Stadium 2 is better as a standalone game. The rentals are shit? Cry about it and get good faggot.

HGSS's Frontier is still better. It's the only good thing about that game.

>>59180591
GSC is the aesthetic peak of the series but I feel like HGSS is just a better experience gameplay-wise.

>>59180454
So it's because it appeals to women got it.

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>>59180626
>GSC is the aesthetic peak of the series

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>>59180639
as intended

>>59180657
>Ugly GBA game is the peak aesthetic of the franchise

Hoennigger inferior complex always has to show up like it's ever invited

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>>59180672
>>Ugly GBA game

>>59180461
How does it make sense for fish pokemknto battle on land?
How does it make sense for land pokemkn to battle underwater?
How does it make sense for the trainer to never have to have feed their pokemon?
How does it make sense the trainer to never have to eat or go to the bathroom?
How does it make sense for Charizard to have two megas?

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>>59180589
If more Pokémon games were like animal crossing, the series would be better off

>>59180461
This is why LGPE is the most soulful Pokemon game

>>59180676
Thank you for proving my point. Game so hideous they couldn't even bother to make real night graphics for it

>>59180589
The fucking GameBoy version was designed around the real-time clock, which was incredibly novel at the time and in fact was basically only being done by the N64 version of Animal Crossing when it came to cartridge based games. The fact they could get it remotely close on an 8-bit system is genuinely impressive. Just because HGSS doesn't remove it from the Gen 4 engine for no good reason (looking at you FRLG) it's not a negative.
>>59180676
Yeah, the tileset is kinda ass, especially character sprites. Superb map design though, probably the best we've ever gotten, which makes it suck even harder that we have to look at it through RSE's worst overworld sprites and ORAS arguably looking worse (it's probably only the second worst Pokemon has ever looked, RSE is just that bad).

>>59180716
Do you really want to look at that on the original GBA screen? The underwater colors were bad enough, you could hardly see what was going on. Actual night graphics would have been fucking miserable, even Friends of Mineral Town going as light as possible with the night colors is still kind of hard to see with that shit.

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>>59180716
>gsc was so unsightly they decided they needed to spend half the time obscuring it with shaded coloring
wow

>>59180716
>muh day/night
Once again, day/night could not exist at the time without either your battery killing your save (like it did in gen 1 and 2) or locking it to day and making morning/night-exclusive Pokemon unobtainable. They could just make it purely aesthetic but Johtoniggers would complain about "THEY TOOK THIS FROM US" again.

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>>59180717
>especially character sprites
>RSE is just that bad

>>59180725
It looks pretty average as far as GameBoy games go, Link's Awakening looks about on par with it.
>>59180730
RSE has a real time clock anyway you fucking retard, you set it at the beginning of the game. They even had to patch a glitch about berries because they programmed it wrong because it's Game Freak. The more logical reason for them not including different tilesets for night is the original GBA's complete ass screen, look at the very first game in Super Mario Advance and how pale it looks in emulation.
>>59180731
It looks markedly better in battle, at least. Still a little jank but it took them until midway through Gen 4 to get really good at making battle sprites, and it's also a charming kind of jank (moreso than some of Gen 1's embarrassing ones or the few genuinely unfinished designed in GS that Crystal smoothed over to a similarly charming amount of jank on average). Overworld just looks worse than FRLG in every way that matters, and every Pokemon game after that in the sprite era worked from that starting point.

>>59180657
>>59180676
Hoenn has the best map design in all of Pokémon and it isn't even close. But the sprites and tiles aren't good (in fact the RS player sprites are better than the Emerald ones you posted) and while I absolutely adore the soundtrack GSC still did it better.

>>59180752
>RSE has a real time clock anyway you fucking retard
And guess what happens when the battery runs dry? The RTC stops. Luckily it doesn't kill your save or block you from morning and night-only encounters forever. Stupid nigger.

>>59180626
>GSC is the aesthetic peak of the series
The battle sprites are really good, but the overworlds suck ass despite the palettes for different times of the day being comfy. HGSS/BW/XY/SM/LGPE is really the only timeframe where the Pokemon games overall didn’t look blatantly unfinished or just aesthetically behind other games for their respective systems.

>>59180253
I kind of have to agree with them being a slog, although it's surprising because I used to think they were amazing remakes back when they came out. I had started playing through a lot of the old games just for fun. I enjoyed Yellow, GBA era games were alright, and I like Diamond and Platinum. But when I got to HGSS I found them surprisingly boring and it killed my momentum, I was expecting them to feel like a huge payoff after the others but maybe playing through ALL the games was too ambitious. I still want to finish though eventually, but I've had soul silver on hold for months...

last thread really mindbroke you huh?
>>59180262
fpbp

>>59180657
>>59180661
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>>59180731
you have GOT to change your filenames dude

>>59180504
That's Kalosfags

>>59180454
Listen to this chad. Thread is so over.

>>59180419
basado